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Gammatron 64 posted:Boy howdy am I glad my poo poo PC can't run this game lol bebaloorpabopalo posted:It means they did the test say 10 times and 5 times the input lag was 6 frames and 5 times it was 7 frames. It's absolutely meaningless to convey it like that, because variables mean every game will inherently fall in between two whole numbers and with a large enough data set average out to "x and a half" frames.
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a frame is a frame, you can't say it's only a half
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Like, the image on your TV changes 60 times a second, so you can't really have a half of that. Unless you're talking about screen tearing when your refresh rate is hosed up or something.
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Jmcrofts posted:a frame is a frame, you can't say it's only a half Alright listen up "Henry",
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Jmcrofts posted:a frame is a frame, you can't say it's only a half Pretend I linked that 0.5x button presses Mario 64 vid since I'm on mobile and can't find it right now
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Imagine 6.5 frames on the edge of a cliff...
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Jmcrofts posted:a frame is a frame, you can't say it's only a half actually-
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"a frame is a frame is a frame" - gertrude stein
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interrodactyl posted:Pretend I linked that 0.5x button presses Mario 64 vid since I'm on mobile and can't find it right now 
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Sep 28, 2016 21:05
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shrodingers frame
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interrodactyl posted:Pretend I linked that 0.5x button presses Mario 64 vid since I'm on mobile and can't find it right now I'm sad that I actually know the video you're talking about
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Gammatron 64 posted:I'm sad that I actually know the video you're talking about i mean it only has like a million and a half views it's not exactly an obscure video
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every half-frame a painting
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They started counting half-frames because you gotta measure the startup of Nash's dash somehow.
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I can't believe y'all got me watching a 24 minute video about half A presses and parallel universes in Mario 64. e: this man let the speed build up for 12 hours 
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zelah posted:I can't believe y'all got me watching a 24 minute video about half A presses and parallel universes in Mario 64. It's the time cube of video game-related Youtube videos.
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Sep 28, 2016 21:50
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Dias posted:They started counting half-frames because you gotta measure the startup of Nash's dash somehow. This.
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TEACHERS ARE EVIL LIARS - THE ONEness OF BUTTON PRESS IS STILLness DEATH. YOU WERE ONEness RETARD ON THE CONTROLLER OPPOSITES ALL YOUR LIFE. LOVE OF FULL PRESS IS HATE OF CHILDREN. SUPPORT .5 BUTTON PRESSES OR BE CURSED.
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Sep 28, 2016 21:59
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Wtf can fang do against gief, a decent japanese one crrrrrrushed me.
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I don't have a ps4, here's a coupon for 50% off SFV digital download P4KPE9NN3E
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https://twitter.com/nycfurby/status/781233635013853184 https://twitter.com/PR_Balrog/status/781235599210483712 https://twitter.com/PR_Balrog/status/781236918222659584 It's hard being PR Rog.
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Intel&Sebastian posted:Wtf can fang do against gief, a decent japanese one crrrrrrushed me. didn't he take the poison?
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Jmcrofts posted:a frame is a frame, you can't say it's only a half https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpk2tdsPh0A i linked it for you interro
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Sep 29, 2016 03:33
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The A press gets a lot of press but Pannenkoek is a multifaceted genius at SM64, I would highly recommend watching any of his videos
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The one he put out yesterday on blinking was especially cool.
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Sep 29, 2016 03:59
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Half frames might not exist but sub pixels definitely do so who's to say???
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Real hurthling! posted:didn't he take the poison? He did and then he very politely ex ran through my whole game to return it to its rightful owner Intel&Sebastian fucked around with this message at 06:30 on Sep 29, 2016 |
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Zand posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpk2tdsPh0A gently caress you man!
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Shadow Ninja 64 posted:Half frames might not exist but sub pixels definitely do so who's to say??? I think the way they measured this was with the number of draws between two screen buffers. So, it probably took them something like 7 back and front buffer swaps plus something like a partly drawn backbuffer before something actually happened between the period of the first button press and the beginning of the first animation frame. Can't really explain it Lehman’s terms but either way, it's still probably not the best way of actually counting the input lag. There are definitely better way they could've just done test harnesses, but judging by their work on that second to last patch, Capcom programmers are either programming bots or they're lazy as gently caress. TL;DR: Capcom programmers are too lazy to properly count frames, probably.
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The number comes from somebody recording them pressing a button in front of a monitor and counting the number of frames in a 60fps video between that and an action occurring on-screen. It was 6 half the time and 7 half the time and so they averaged it to 6.5 I don't know where you get the idea Capcom would put the effort into measuring it and would publish numbers.
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how many half frame presses does it take to defeat daigo
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Fereydun posted:how many half frame presses does it take to defeat daigo you can only have one half press per button so it better be between 6 and 8
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*cody prepares a mixup* cody: there's a 50/50 chance this is assault police cop: cody what are you doing *cody lands attack* cody: officer i was half-framed
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The xbone is half RAM'd
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Can anyone please summarize? 8 frames is not a thing anymore? Or it is? But like7.5 frames? Or its still not as good as PC minus antialiasing? But close?
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Foodahn posted:Can anyone please summarize? 8 frames is not a thing anymore? Or it is? But like7.5 frames? Or its still not as good as PC minus antialiasing? But close? It's 7 frames in practice on PS4 now. Ignore the half-frame talk. Anti-aliasing has nothing to do with input-lag on PC, you're thinking of VSync and yes, PS4 still has more lag than PC with VSync turned off.
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Did those two guys ever fight? Bebop and whoever?
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Agoat posted:Bebop and whoever? Nah, "whoever" ran away to shitpost in the politics shitposting forum and manage to be so annoying that he gets probated even when people agree with him.
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Since it seems like everyone instantly discovered that Vsync is the culprit behind the lag, why the hell is there no button to shut it off? Hell if you're scared of reviewers getting mad about some minor screen tear, have Vsync enabled by default and allow it to be disabled in Options. Do like PS3 Xrd and just call the options Quality and Performance or something to avoid admitting any fuckup.
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hey guys, lets talk about politics in this thread. personally, i am a communist & i love stalin
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