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Somfin
Oct 25, 2010

In my🦚 experience🛠️ the big things🌑 don't teach you anything🤷‍♀️.

Nap Ghost

Improbable Lobster posted:

For some strange reason I doubt that anything will come of this

The whole company's gone dark ever since launch. They were expecting the sheer scale of the game to hide the lack of live multiplayer for long enough to get away with not including it, but the missing feature was discovered on day 1 because gamers are incredibly good at doing insane poo poo like that. And multiplayer isn't like other game features. It's not selling a car with a missing cupholder, it's selling a mountain bike by promising that it's a car. See also: Brutal Legend, the action-adventure game that is actually a super-shallow RTS when you get past the first level or so.

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Dr Sun Try
May 23, 2009


Plaster Town Cop
This isn't about pre release interviews. The ASA noted differences between current advertisement on NMSs Steam page and the content of the game. They asked Hello Games and Steam to respond.

https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2016/09/28/asa-investigating-no-mans-skys-steam-advertising/

https://www.reddit.com/r/NoMansSkyTheGame/comments/54n5yz/official_asa_response_valve_and_hello_games_have/

Weatherman
Jul 30, 2003

WARBLEKLONK
http://youtu.be/-5jWtz3rzco

Mercedes Colomar
Nov 1, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Somfin posted:

The whole company's gone dark ever since launch. They were expecting the sheer scale of the game to hide the lack of live multiplayer for long enough to get away with not including it, but the missing feature was discovered on day 1 because gamers are incredibly good at doing insane poo poo like that. And multiplayer isn't like other game features. It's not selling a car with a missing cupholder, it's selling a mountain bike by promising that it's a car. See also: Brutal Legend, the action-adventure game that is actually a super-shallow RTS when you get past the first level or so.

Except Brütal Legend is actually good. :goonsay:

GOTTA STAY FAI
Mar 24, 2005

~no glitter in the gutter~
~no twilight galaxy~
College Slice

Manuel Calavera posted:

Except Brütal Legend is actually good. :goonsay:

The only good thing featuring Jack Black is the film The Jackal

im pooping!
Nov 17, 2006


Elite Dangerous is NMS with less dickface aliens and more better flightmodels and spaceshootmans.

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

"From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.
Buglord

Somfin posted:

The whole company's gone dark ever since launch. They were expecting the sheer scale of the game to hide the lack of live multiplayer for long enough to get away with not including it, but the missing feature was discovered on day 1 because gamers are incredibly good at doing insane poo poo like that. And multiplayer isn't like other game features. It's not selling a car with a missing cupholder, it's selling a mountain bike by promising that it's a car. See also: Brutal Legend, the action-adventure game that is actually a super-shallow RTS when you get past the first level or so.

Brütal Legend was very good but suffered entirely from EA's lovely marketing trying to make it look like God of War. No one got sued for that.

Multiplayer is an incredibly nebulous term. Yeah, the company bullshitted and haven't been doing damage control for god-knows-why but there's also no legal precedent for what would legally constitute multiplayer in a game. Being able to see what other players have named planets technically involves multiple other players.

It reminds me of people to try to sue film studios because the trailers were different from the movie. Like the guy who's trying to sue WB because there were Joker scenes in the Suicide Squad trailers that weren't in the final film.

Say Nothing
Mar 5, 2013

by FactsAreUseless

Vorkosigan
Mar 28, 2012


TotalLossBrain posted:

Remember the Mass Effect 1 marketing? Over xx worlds to explore!

In the end, it was driving the Mako across featureless expanses with identical objectives planet to planet.

I liked the Mako :colbert:

Say Nothing
Mar 5, 2013

by FactsAreUseless
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJoN-XOKkJ8&hd=1

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

Vorkosigan posted:

I liked the Mako :colbert:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G38QRmA4LMw

Beastie
Nov 3, 2006

They used to call me tricky-kid, I lived the life they wish they did.


Improbable Lobster posted:

Brütal Legend was very good but suffered entirely from EA's lovely marketing trying to make it look like God of War. No one got sued for that.

Multiplayer is an incredibly nebulous term. Yeah, the company bullshitted and haven't been doing damage control for god-knows-why but there's also no legal precedent for what would legally constitute multiplayer in a game. Being able to see what other players have named planets technically involves multiple other players.

It reminds me of people to try to sue film studios because the trailers were different from the movie. Like the guy who's trying to sue WB because there were Joker scenes in the Suicide Squad trailers that weren't in the final film.

The developer straight up told people the only way for you to see what you look like is for another player to tell you.

I'm not looking to start the NMS thread all over, and I don't think it will turn into a huge lawsuit.

But they did set themselves up for this.

TotalLossBrain
Oct 20, 2010

Hier graben!

Vorkosigan posted:

I liked the Mako :colbert:

The Mako was the ONLY thing making the planet collecting missions bearable at all.

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

it was a shitload better than the mind-numbing point-and-click planet probing minigame from ME2

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS
ME2 had the :krad: Hammerhead, though.

Malachite_Dragon
Mar 31, 2010

Weaving Merry Christmas magic
The Hammerhead was better than the Mako in every way. Faster, could actually jump worth a flying gently caress, had HOMING MISSILES.
:qq:"But it couldn't take a hit":qq:
Learn to dodge, scrub :colbert: And it tanked small arms fire just fine; the Mako couldn't take direct hits from Geth Armature plasma shots, either. Unless you were playing on lower difficulties, like a wee babby.

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Feonir
Mar 30, 2011

Ask me about aquatic cocaine transportation and by-standard management.
I guarantee ME:3 would had been a drat shade better instead of anything to do with Kei Leng you just dropped a Mako on earth in some wide open wheat field and had a one on one with some reaper throwing hate and death lasers at one another. Just you, and any surviving crew in some heavy ordinance vehicles dropped in constantly by the Normandy, a no holds bar man on reaper slugfest.

Mercedes Colomar
Nov 1, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

GOTTA STAY FAI posted:

The only good thing featuring Jack Black is the film The Jackal

It also features Tim Curry.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJsRAcAhnNw&hd=1

Lechtansi
Mar 23, 2004

Item Get
The schad from NMS is mostly from the fans - remember these are the people that sent the lead developer death threats for delaying the games release. Every time people get riled up about "lies" the devs told the rest of us go "oh yeah, that's a feature that didn't work" or "they thought it was going to be one thing but it turned out to be another." Hell even the new doom shipped without death match and there weren't any lawsuits over that one.

Jamfrost
Jul 20, 2013

I'm too busy thinkin' about my baby. Oh I ain't got time for nothin' else.
Slime TrainerS

Lechtansi posted:

The schad from NMS is mostly from the fans - remember these are the people that sent the lead developer death threats for delaying the games release. Every time people get riled up about "lies" the devs told the rest of us go "oh yeah, that's a feature that didn't work" or "they thought it was going to be one thing but it turned out to be another." Hell even the new doom shipped without death match and there weren't any lawsuits over that one.

That's because they played the beta for Doom and were de-hyped which lead to a stunning surprise with that sweet single player.

I thought there was a collective thank you card sent from SA.

Prokhor Zakharov
Dec 31, 2008

This is me as I make another great post


Good luck with your depression!
Crosspostin' from the thread regarding the continuing trials of those right-wing libertarian militia asshats that took over our bird refuge here in Oregon. There was a local sheriff helping the occupiers that is currently being investigated by the FBI and sued by our state's largest newspaper. The following comes from that civil suit that the paper brought alleging that the sheriff is hiding/destroying public documents:

http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/index.ssf/2016/09/grant_county_sheriff_invokes_t.html#incart_river_home_pop

quote:

JOHN DAY – Grant County Sheriff Glenn Palmer invoked his right against self-incrimination 51 times while being questioned under oath about his handling of government records.

Palmer wouldn't answer questions about deleting emails dealing with public business and whether he had any emails related to the occupation earlier this year of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge.

The sheriff used his Fifth Amendment right last week during a deposition in the lawsuit he faces from The Oregonian/OregonLive. The news organization sued Palmer, his office and his civil deputy in May to force disclosure of public records such as arrest reports, calendars, emails and cellphone invoices. The state public records law generally requires public officials to disclose such documents.

A key issue in the dispute is Palmer's use of a personal email account to conduct his public business. The news organization sought work-related emails dating back to November 2015. In court filings months after receiving the request, Palmer said his practice is to print out important emails from his personal account, file them and then delete them from his system.

It was during a series of questions about that practice that Palmer invoked the Fifth Amendment.

The sheriff didn't respond to a subsequent request for comment.

He has become a national figure over his sympathy for the occupiers of the wildlife refuge. He has said he traded text messages with Ammon Bundy, the Idaho businessman who led the occupation. He also met in John Day with two occupation leaders.

Starting in late January, John Day city officials and Grant County citizens filed 11 complaints with the state agency that certifies police, alleging the sheriff's actions put the community at risk. The Oregon Department of Justice opened a separate criminal investigation of the sheriff over an allegation he tampered with government records in 2012. That investigation remains active.

Palmer was questioned for about six hours last Tuesday and Wednesday by Brad Daniels, a Portland attorney representing The Oregonian/OregonLive. The sheriff, who has been in office since 2000 and is running for re-election in November, answered questions about his knowledge of state law governing public records, his handling of requests for records, his cellphone use and his relation with several individuals.

Questions about his personal email account prompted the Fifth Amendment claims. He first invoked the right when asked whether he had reviewed the legal definition of "public record" before the lawsuit was filed.

Palmer also invoked the right after he was shown and asked about his email exchanges with Grant County District Attorney Jim Carpenter. Palmer earlier told The Oregonian/OregonLive that he had no email records related to the refuge occupation. One email exchange from Feb. 12 related in part to a Florida man invoking Palmer's name to issue phony grand jury papers.

Palmer took the Fifth when asked about whether the emails were public records, if copies existed in his office, where he would file a printed version and why it wasn't released to the news organization.

He invoked the right when questioned about other documents he had said he didn't have but other government agencies subsequently provided to The Oregonian/OregonLive.

Sally DeFord, who as Palmer's civil deputy handles administrative functions such as expenses and legal papers such as restraining orders, invoked her Fifth Amendment right three times during separate testimony.

She cited it when she was asked if she had destroyed any records and whether she still had emails involving one of Palmer's special deputies – volunteers deputized by Palmer for public lands patrol, search and rescue and other functions.

Legal experts say the Fifth Amendment is intended to protect witnesses from giving evidence that could be used against them in a criminal case. They say the protection is intended to force the government to prove a crime without admissions from a suspect.

Margaret Paris, a University of Oregon law professor, said someone can stay silent if "what that person fears (is) that their statements might be used against them in a criminal case."

Steven Salky, a Washington, D.C., criminal defense attorney who wrote a book on the Fifth Amendment published by the American Bar Association, said witnesses can use the right even if they believe they're innocent of criminal conduct but concerned the answers might lead to criminal charges.

It's unusual for public officials to invoke the right, Paris said.

"Most of our public officials and law enforcement officers, we don't expect them to be engaging in something that would tend to give rise to a criminal proceeding," she said.






Come read the thread to follow the overall trials if you're interested, for bonus schaden the occupiers have hosed their own legal defense so badly that the trial may be over as early as the end of next week!

Read the OP and jump to the end whenever: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3761854&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=1

WrenP-Complete
Jul 27, 2012

Wrong thread! Sorry!

WrenP-Complete has a new favorite as of 04:18 on Sep 29, 2016

Ransack
Aug 9, 2006

Snowglobe of Doom posted:

Brent Spiner keeps 'sneaking' into the audience of other Star Trek: The Next Generation cast members Q&A sessions at conventions and trolling the gently caress out of them:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvJ7xR4D1ZI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0GTcQeqc_Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxD-Y0_XXLU

.... and then they do it back to him:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKsYK8Tg9jI

This was wonderful.

bobjr
Oct 16, 2012

Roose is loose.
🐓🐓🐓✊🪧



Testekill
Nov 1, 2012

I demand to be taken seriously

:aronrex:

Snowglobe of Doom posted:

There's an Australian Rules Football team called the Western Bulldogs who are playing the Grand Final this weekend. They joined the league in 1925 and since then they've only won the finals once, way back in 1954. Their fans are understandably incredibly hyped that their team has a shot at breaking their 62 year losing streak and if they end up losing then there's going to be cascades of schadenfreude raining down all over Australia.

To be fair, we just beat a pop-up franchise with no real history that had been given everything to be successful. You know, also the guys that bragged about getting the Bulldogs captain to walk out on the club and posted this poo poo on twitter since they'd already stolen one of the Bulldogs young guns are few years earlier.



Yeah, that didn't bite them in the arse or anything. I don't know who the baseball equivalent is but it's the Cubs beating whoever that is at their home turf while completely outnumbering their fans so badly that a senior player/official from the club complained to the AFL that they were booed going onto the ground.

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Wizard Master
Mar 25, 2008

Testekill posted:

To be fair, we just beat a pop-up franchise with no real history that had been given everything to be successful. You know, also the guys that bragged about getting the Bulldogs captain to walk out on the club and posted this poo poo on twitter since they'd already stolen one of the Bulldogs young guns are few years earlier.



Yeah, that didn't bite them in the arse or anything. I don't know who the baseball equivalent is but it's the Cubs beating whoever that is at their home turf while completely outnumbering their fans so badly that a senior player/official from the club complained to the AFL that they were booed going onto the ground.

Not a real sport.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Wizard Master posted:

Not a real sport.

Yeah, I cannot really get into it, except when there are fights. Just looks like a childhood game of 'bomb and cream'

Zesty
Jan 17, 2012

The Great Twist

im pooping! posted:

Elite Dangerous is NMS with less dickface aliens and more better flightmodels and spaceshootmans.

But only slightly more meaningful multiplayer content.

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin
Idiots doing idiot things because they're idiots.



http://i.imgur.com/rA7j7MJ.gifv

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right

Testekill posted:

To be fair

Yes. Feel the anger flowing through you.

Rough Lobster
May 27, 2009

Don't be such a squid, bro

I think this picture says it all.

SneezeOfTheDecade
Feb 6, 2011

gettin' covid all
over your posts

Rough Lobster posted:

I think this picture says it all.

He's gonna hold his breath until they stop asking these questions.

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

Prokhor Zakharov posted:

Crosspostin' from the thread regarding the continuing trials of those right-wing libertarian militia asshats that took over our bird refuge here in Oregon. There was a local sheriff helping the occupiers that is currently being investigated by the FBI and sued by our state's largest newspaper. The following comes from that civil suit that the paper brought alleging that the sheriff is hiding/destroying public documents:

http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/index.ssf/2016/09/grant_county_sheriff_invokes_t.html#incart_river_home_pop







Come read the thread to follow the overall trials if you're interested, for bonus schaden the occupiers have hosed their own legal defense so badly that the trial may be over as early as the end of next week!

Read the OP and jump to the end whenever: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3761854&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=1

Thanks for the link! I didn't know there was a new thread.

Edit: Or is that the old megathread reopened?

chitoryu12 has a new favorite as of 13:29 on Sep 29, 2016

oldpainless
Oct 30, 2009

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I've always said the 5th Amendment is the biggest obstacle on the road to justice.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

Zipperelli.
Apr 3, 2011



Nap Ghost

I mean, its obviously pretty great, but context?

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

Zipperelli. posted:

I mean, its obviously pretty great, but context?

I'm not a soccer expert, but it looks like a reaction by Manchester City coaches to the other team scoring a goal?

Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010

chitoryu12 posted:

I'm not a soccer expert, but it looks like a reaction by Manchester City coaches to the other team scoring a goal?

Judging by the smile right before I'm guessing a Man City player blew a really great opportunity.

knobgobblin
Oct 28, 2010

got a bone to pick

oldpainless posted:

I've always said the 5th Amendment is the biggest obstacle on the road to justice.
More like boldbaitness

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Jippa
Feb 13, 2009
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2Yr77mOWxg

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