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I've seen everything from socks to pens for more casual / every day items Then you get people replacing the underlights in their car doors with ones that beam down a giant S&C onto the ground.
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In about 10 hours I'll be starting my first degree. I'm so excited i actually woke up early today so i can get all the things I want to do done. I'm treating myself to a professional shave and haircut at a fancy barber called 'dapper Dan's'.
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Sep 28, 2016 14:41
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do the freemasons take kinship into account when the relation comes from ones mother's side of the family?
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Sep 28, 2016 15:01
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We don't formally care about kinship one way or the other, although I'm sure plenty of Brothers would love to talk about it. You don't have to be related to a Mason to be one.
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Sep 28, 2016 15:10
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ok ty do you guys all cheat on your wives or just the elder chaps
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Sep 28, 2016 15:14
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It doesn't count as cheating with the goat
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Sep 28, 2016 15:23
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no kidding here bros, it may be mere chance but all confirmed freemasons i know IRL are middle-aged to elderly and all have a history of giving 0 shits about cheating on the ball and chain theres a pattern here, i also know of orgies with call girls in certain lodges, sloppy bastards :P was thinking of joining though, sounds like a lifehack if there ever was one
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Sep 28, 2016 15:26
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All the elderly masons I know would be as appalled at the thought of adultery as they would at that of miscegenation.
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Sep 28, 2016 15:29
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as far as i can see being a freemason turned to be a very open thing nowadays ppl were very secretive about it in the olden days e: thanks for the info i'd have asked sooner if i knew about the thread
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Sep 28, 2016 15:35
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They really weren't, it's been pretty open forever. I should do some research on when it changed, but my guess would be in the mid-19th century during the anti-Masonic fever. And then only until that nonsense passed.
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Sep 28, 2016 15:43
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Nurel posted:no kidding here bros, it may be mere chance but all confirmed freemasons i know IRL are middle-aged to elderly and all have a history of giving 0 shits about cheating on the ball and chain quote:theres a pattern here, i also know of orgies with call girls in certain lodges, sloppy bastards :P quote:was thinking of joining though, sounds like a lifehack if there ever was one
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Sep 28, 2016 16:35
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Lovable Luciferian posted:You'll be very disappointed. What, you mean i won't find out who shot Kennedy tonight during my 1st degree??????
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Sep 28, 2016 17:11
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Cimber posted:What, you mean i won't find out who shot Kennedy tonight during my 1st degree?????? You don't find that out until at least the 67th degree.
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Sep 28, 2016 17:24
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Cholmondeley posted:I'll be there in the DDGM corral. I'm around from Thursday until Saturday, and would definitely be up for a meetup. I only saw one young-ish guy in the corral, do you have long hair and a beard? I was the other dais officers from my lodge, so I didn't socialize that much outside of them.
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Sep 28, 2016 17:25
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Colonial Air Force posted:They really weren't, it's been pretty open forever. I should do some research on when it changed, but my guess would be in the mid-19th century during the anti-Masonic fever. And then only until that nonsense passed. perhaps it was a local trend, having a lot to do with the political landscape then. e: i'm talking 1940-80 europe Mr. Pickles fucked around with this message at 18:46 on Sep 28, 2016 |
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Sep 28, 2016 18:39
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Lovable Luciferian posted:You'll be very disappointed. being a freemason is not a lifehack? i had the impression its like a worldwide organization where everyone helps each other, spanning back hundreds of years.
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Sep 28, 2016 18:50
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Nurel posted:perhaps it was a local trend, having a lot to do with the political landscape then. Depends on the country, which are you referring to?
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Sep 28, 2016 20:52
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Austrian masons are quiet about their membership for obvious reasons.
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Sep 28, 2016 21:12
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The only times Masonry was really kept secret was during times where they were persecuted, as in Nazi Germany. That's where the forget-me-not became a symbol of masonry, since they would wear a pin of the flower instead of the square-and-compasses.
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Sep 28, 2016 21:35
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COOL CORN posted:The only times Masonry was really kept secret was during times where they were persecuted, as in Nazi Germany. That's where the forget-me-not became a symbol of masonry, since they would wear a pin of the flower instead of the square-and-compasses. Right. I just met some Austrian masons on a tour of the Grand Lodge of Ireland a few weeks ago. They said that they have very small numbers today, and still are very discreet about it on average. Edit: they also asked my opinion about Donald Trump Emron fucked around with this message at 21:58 on Sep 28, 2016 |
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Sep 28, 2016 21:52
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COOL CORN posted:I only saw one young-ish guy in the corral, do you have long hair and a beard? I was the other dais officers from my lodge, so I didn't socialize that much outside of them. I'm more middle aged, than youngish, short hair, glasses, no beard. Unfortunately, various duties kept me from having much of any free time the whole weekend. Were you part of the honor guard ?
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Sep 29, 2016 01:47
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Cholmondeley posted:I'm more middle aged, than youngish, short hair, glasses, no beard. Unfortunately, various duties kept me from having much of any free time the whole weekend. Unfortunately not. I couldn't make it until right at 9am, so I didn't have time to work out logistics and be part of it. The Greensboro York Rite Bodies put on the Order of the Temple tonight for 36 (!!!) candidates, at Castle McCulloch in Jamestown, NC. Nothing like conferring an order of knighthood in an actual (*cough-reproduction-cough*) medieval castle. The class was named after Past Grand Commander Gene Lewellyn, who was in attendance along with current Grand Commander James Steele. Super great night, and it was thundering with lightning all evening, which added a certain gravitas. Hey you guys, join the York Rite, you get to look dapper like this! 
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Sep 29, 2016 03:40
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Well Brethren, I have be initiated. What a interesting ritual that was. Such an info dump at the end too where i probably have retained about 20-30 percent. I feel bad about that since the brothers spent a lot of time preparing and memorizing. I'm NOT looking forward to memorizing my proficiency. Oh lord that's a lot of stuff.
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Sep 29, 2016 05:01
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poo poo dooog you look like a friend of mine ah so they were persecuted by nazi germany.. makes sense. i was referring to greece which was a)occupied by the fascists during ww2 b)occupied by a junta during the late 60s-mid70s
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Sep 29, 2016 07:44
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Sorry, I know very little about Freemasons in Greece but yeah, if you have a government that dislikes freethinkers it is likely there are only secret freemasons.
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Sep 29, 2016 10:39
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It's also a generally good indicator of if a country is about to get real ugly. If they start actively gunning for masons and similar groups, poo poo is going to get dark. On a lighter note, I'll be becoming a Knight Templar come Christmas. Can't ask for a more symbolically appropriate time.
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Cimber posted:Well Brethren, I have be initiated. What a interesting ritual that was. Such an info dump at the end too where i probably have retained about 20-30 percent. I feel bad about that since the brothers spent a lot of time preparing and memorizing. Don't worry, you're not the only guy who they memorized all that for, and you'd have to have a photographic memory to have retained all of it in one go. The beauty of the ritual is, in part, its abundance. You'll get something new out of it the more you see it. As for your proficiency, it'll depend a lot on your district as to how often you can practice. Ours had code books, and with dedicated study, I committed mine to memory in about a month. Best way is to keep going to lodge, and catch a 1st degree practice or see someone else go through it.
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Old Dirty Cumburgs posted:Don't worry, you're not the only guy who they memorized all that for, and you'd have to have a photographic memory to have retained all of it in one go. The beauty of the ritual is, in part, its abundance. You'll get something new out of it the more you see it. Thats what i plan on doing. Monday another lodge is having a 1st degree and I'm going to try to see that. I'll bring my code book with me and follow along at the appropriate parts.
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Sep 29, 2016 19:40
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Cimber posted:Thats what i plan on doing. Monday another lodge is having a 1st degree and I'm going to try to see that. I'll bring my code book with me and follow along at the appropriate parts. This may not be legal depending on your jurisdiction (it certainly isn't in California) Edit: Having the book open in Lodge, I mean
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Sep 29, 2016 19:42
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FreshFeesh posted:This may not be legal depending on your jurisdiction (it certainly isn't in California) Same in North Carolina. Hell, here you're not even allowed a code book until you stand proficient on the third degree 
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COOL CORN posted:Same in North Carolina. Hell, here you're not even allowed a code book until you stand proficient on the third degree That's what I tell my candidates 
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FreshFeesh posted:That's what I tell my candidates Why not? Not going to argue, just wondering why they don't want code books open in lodge. And if i did not have a cypher book with the catechism how would i be able get to be proficient?
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Cimber posted:Why not? Not going to argue, just wondering why they don't want code books open in lodge. The code book is a great code, almost uncrackable, because you can only read the code if you already know what it says. If you're using it to follow along, you can circumvent this. The code book is meant to ensure that people who know what it says can read it, and people who don't can't, and bringing it into open lodge breaks its encryption. Some jurisdictions, many, only do the catechism "mouth to ear," meaning a preceptor or mentor will help you memorize it. The code book is for after you've already proven proficient, so you can double check or remind yourself in 20 years. Edit: I moved from GL of OH which is F&AM to GL of MD which is AF&AM and have code books for both, but AF&AM is slightly different, different enough that I can't do it, which is rather unfortunate. I should probably go through a catechism with a crew at some point. Hell, I should probably go back to Lodge at some point. We had a WM who was extremely all about Jesus and it turned me off of it a bit, and then I got busy on lodge nights and now just haven't been for a long time even though my schedule freed up. Paramemetic fucked around with this message at 00:41 on Sep 30, 2016 |
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Paramemetic posted:Some jurisdictions, many, only do the catechism "mouth to ear," meaning a preceptor or mentor will help you memorize it. The code book is for after you've already proven proficient, so you can double check or remind yourself in 20 years. That's NC's logic. It's worked for a couple hundred years!
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Sep 30, 2016 01:43
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Cimber posted:whats the difference between AF & AM and F&AM? One letter. It just has to do with whether those particular grand lodges were founded with charters from the Ancient or Premier Grand Lodge of England prior to the United Grand Lodge being formed in 1813. So in the US it's a toss up whether a given blue lodge will be Ancient Free & Accepted or just Free & Accepted. There are some minor phrasing differences in the work, but nothing substantial. Minor changes in the way the lodge is conducted but again nothing major. It just means I'd have to relearn the lectures and so on for the small changes in phrasing. The main thing that was disappointing to me is that apparently Maryland is a slideshow state, and I was fortunate to have my first degree lecture done in a very special, unique way by a real scholar of it, which cannot be done here as the lectures have to be done in a format ratified by the GL, which in MD means a very specific format that I'm' not keen on. Oh welp tho.
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Are there any Louisiana goons here? I've heard stories about how their work is vastly different (and the only place in America you can legally see the first three degrees the way the Scottish Rite has them written) I guess more influence from the Grand Orient de France?
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COOL CORN posted:Are there any Louisiana goons here? I've heard stories about how their work is vastly different (and the only place in America you can legally see the first three degrees the way the Scottish Rite has them written) Right here. I'm from New Orleans, and a member of a Scottish Rite Craft Lodge. The degrees are vastly different than anywhere else in the country.
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Paramemetic posted:One letter. Oh are you in MD too? Hope we get to meet up sometime! I can understand being a bit put off by the slideshows, though, they seemed out of place to me too.
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MB13 posted:Right here. I'm from New Orleans, and a member of a Scottish Rite Craft Lodge. The degrees are vastly different than anywhere else in the country. I have so many questions. Are non-LA Masons welcome? Or maybe non-LA Scottish Rite Masons? If I ever make it out to NOLA I might try to catch a degree.
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