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Two Finger posted:Holland America Line are all dutch flagged. I think you hit a winner. I can tell my mom that Holland America flies the Dutch flag, so they're more likely to have actual labor laws they're "supposed" to follow. She will sail on them, and feel better about herself. That's all that really matters to her, not the actual reality of the cruise industry.
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Comedy option http://eddaadventures.no
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What do you think of the Jones Act?
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It has a lot of good to it and is pretty much the reason American shipping still exists. If only nz and aus had the same deal 
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ZombieLenin posted:I've got two questions for you guys. So about a month ago my 70 year old mom (and corporate executive) comes to me and asks me, because I'm a socialist so obviously know these things, if I can find a cruise for her where "they treat their people okay." Hurtigruten i Norway is the closest thing I can think of. https://www.hurtigruten.com/
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Some flag States put their flag state inspections online. You can check out some of the cruise vessels this way. Most flag states are loath to detain a cruise vessel because of all of the people involved you ruined a lot of vacations if you don't let the ship sail. But for the flags that you can find the reports for online the deficiencies will give you a good idea of how lovely the vessel is. Personally I won't take a cruise ever.
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BrandorKP posted:Some flag States put their flag state inspections online. You can check out some of the cruise vessels this way. Most flag states are loath to detain a cruise vessel because of all of the people involved you ruined a lot of vacations if you don't let the ship sail. But for the flags that you can find the reports for online the deficiencies will give you a good idea of how lovely the vessel is. Personally I won't take a cruise ever. Spoiler: they are all terrible. My mum always told me she wanted to take a cruise until I point blank told her no one I care about is getting on that ship
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BrandorKP posted:But for the flags that you can find the reports for online the deficiencies will give you a good idea of how lovely the vessel is. Personally I won't take a cruise ever. There are a lot of cartons of cigarettes on a cruise ship.
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FrozenVent posted:There are a lot of cartons of cigarettes on a cruise ship. Most of the better flags do "quality assurance boardings" to follow up on port state inspections where most that type of stuff happens or when they think they have a crappy flag inspector working for them.
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The AMSA arrested ships list is sometimes an interesting read. I'm sure there are equivalents with other authorities. This summary is particually bad: Vessel does not have the following certificates; safety construction, equipment, radio, IOPP, IAPP, ISPP, IEEC, IAFC, ISPS, CSR and Safety Management Certificate. Vessel is both SOLAS and MARPOL convention size. MF/HF radio defective. Port and stbd engine room fixed fire fighting systems defective. X band radar defective. Fireman's suits onboard have only one charge of air each. MLC 2006 - Accommodation does not meet regulations, crew are housed in uninsulated container on deck. No washing facilities provided and crew have been washing on deck.
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pazrs posted:The AMSA arrested ships list is sometimes an interesting read. I'm sure there are equivalents with other authorities. The first one I clicked is pretty amusing: Stbd lifeboard propulsion defective:  Yup, that's certainly defective. It was rectified in under 2 hours, so I assume they had the parts on-board, but  .
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NCL has the lone US flagged cruise ship in Hawaii. The officers are all union as well. Jones act is the sole reason there is a US industry at all. The many attacks against it such as by Puerto Rico can't actually pinpoint it as the cause of their problems. Generally it's used as a scapegoat for political incompetence. Without the Jones act, shipbuilding and a merchant marine would disappear. Once those skills are gone, getting them back will be expensive, difficult and take years. There would also be the question of how to move military cargo. Without the MSP fleet it would be at the wim of the market, foreign companies and crews. lightpole fucked around with this message at 00:02 on Sep 17, 2016 |
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Ooh a new place to look for common class A deficiencies. I've also boarded some of those vessels before for break bulk and bulk cargo work.
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~10 days until my company fires 50% of crew of my nationality. loving oil price.
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sharkytm posted:Yup, that's certainly defective. It was rectified in under 2 hours, so I assume they had the parts on-board, but Couplings, who needs em!? Going to get interesting with these Hanjin ships as well. Once again it falls on the Mission to Seafarers to feed the poor bastards on board.
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pazrs posted:Couplings, who needs em!? But what about that poor artist?
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So I hear Farstad in Australia is about to let go 100 seastaff. Anyone here affected? So far, going back to university looks like the right move. That said, I miss going to sea a bit and want to keep my masters ticket valid, so I think I'll be looking to do a swing or two pretty soon.
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StopShootingMe posted:So I hear Farstad in Australia is about to let go 100 seastaff. Anyone here affected? So far, going back to university looks like the right move. That said, I miss going to sea a bit and want to keep my masters ticket valid, so I think I'll be looking to do a swing or two pretty soon. i'm not but a good mate of mine worked for them for about 2 years and was let go earlier this year mermaid and seaworks have a few things going but work is still pretty thin on the ground right now
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Found this in the loving paint store There was no cover on it.
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Anyone been through an MM&P hall lately?
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Per posted:~10 days until my company fires 50% of crew of my nationality. loving oil price. And I made it. Wonder how long until the next firing round.
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localized posted:Anyone been through an MM&P hall lately? They share a hall with us MEBA types in Norfolk, seems a lot smaller and slower of a deal. Heard MLL is experimenting with permanent second mates so that may be something to do with it. Also lol at Group 2 guys complaining about no jobs at a hall where I know for a fact a bunch of applicants got good jobs while they were allegedly sitting there everyday.
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shovelbum posted:They share a hall with us MEBA types in Norfolk, seems a lot smaller and slower of a deal. Heard MLL is experimenting with permanent second mates so that may be something to do with it. Does MEBA still have mate jobs that you know of? I'm looking to get out of the oil field, or at least away from the drilling side of things...
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I'm hearing rough news from other smaller container lines, grumblings about the big lines (maersk, msc, etc) artificaly keeping rates low to drove the smaller lines out of business. It's more over capacity as a root cause but this type of talk usually precedes coming bad news.
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localized posted:Does MEBA still have mate jobs that you know of? I'm looking to get out of the oil field, or at least away from the drilling side of things... Yes, not a huge amount though. You would be better off with MM&P. Figure out what you need to get on with Patriot to get some time in or just hope you get lucky. I know people were getting out mid summer before I got this job. Now is about the time for all the New England guys to go looking for work so the hall is going to fill up again. I only ever sailed Matson and MLL when I was group 2 and didn't have to wait for it. Group 1 with a 2nds is cheating. Going to try and take my 1sts when I get off here in 18 days and get back on as 1st around Thanksgiving. 3 trips as 1st would be somewhere around 60k for 42 days of work.
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ZombieLenin posted:I've got two questions for you guys. So about a month ago my 70 year old mom (and corporate executive) comes to me and asks me, because I'm a socialist so obviously know these things, if I can find a cruise for her where "they treat their people okay." NCL actually has a US flagged cruise ship. It does the island hopping thing in Hawaii: https://www.ncl.com/cruise-ship/pride-of-america
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So 10 ZIM vessels are now bank owned. They are still ZIM chartered for now.
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Is it true that the big Chouest specialty stuff like the Palmer pays obscenely well? I hear persistent rumors of assistants making like over a thousand bucks a day on their non mud stuff but it always sounded like bs.
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Why do they office insist on cramming every single possible survey and inspection for the year into a single 8 hour period? This is hell. Also, first thing the flag state asked to test the fire alarm, which hasn't been working for at least the last month
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ferretsrule posted:Why do they office insist on cramming every single possible survey and inspection for the year into a single 8 hour period? This is hell. I did a 4 day Final Contract Trial on my last hitch. Imagine 60+ navy officers cramming themselves onboard a ship with a 22 man crew and spending all day trying to justify their existence with nitpicking.
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Princess Cruise Lines to Pay Largest-Ever Criminal Penalty for Deliberate Vessel Pollution Magic pipe, bilge to grey water tank direct suction, cover-up, whistleblowing, short armed chief, MCA/USCG co-ordination. Nothing makes me happier than to see these dodgy fucks getting rekt.  Christmas came early this year. Edited to add: I hope the whistleblower gets a big reward.
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You really, really need to read that. A highlight includes:quote:Prior to the MCA boarding, the chief engineer and senior first engineer ordered crew members to lie. Following the MCA’s inquiry, the chief engineer held a sham meeting in the engine control room to pretend to look into the allegations while holding up a sign stating: “LA is listening.” The engineers present understood that anything said might be heard by those at the company’s headquarters in Los Angeles, California, because the engine control room contained a recording device intended to monitor conversations in the event of an incident.
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I'm glad that happened cruise ship engine rooms range from from adequate to holy gently caress really. That might shake up the culture.
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BrandorKP posted:I'm glad that happened cruise ship engine rooms range from from adequate to holy gently caress really. That might shake up the culture. Lol
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When something like this happens port state gets real aggressive about looking for it everywhere. They were already pretty serious about OWS and magic pipes. Edit: I've seen permanently installed buckets to catch leaking fuel oil dripping over electrical cabling in cruise ship engine rooms. Oily rags jammed into crevices all over the generators type stuff. Anything that puts more attention on it is good. Bar Ran Dun fucked around with this message at 22:41 on Dec 2, 2016 |
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Dec 2, 2016 22:38
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For as much as I dislike the Dutch, they generally do run a pretty tight operation. My old ship had its issues but never anything like that.
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We have got some new builds coming from Romania so to break the monotony of offshore life we get to bring them over. I am pretty stoked for this development and hope I don't have a stroke when I see the radar at change of watch before we break out of the med.
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BrandorKP posted:I'm glad that happened cruise ship engine rooms range from from adequate to holy gently caress really. That might shake up the culture. LoL It ain't the first time.
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Two Finger posted:You really, really need to read that. A highlight includes: I couldn't stop laughing reading through the whole thing. Finally passed my 1sts. Already turning down offers. I think I want to go to grad school and stop sailing because gently caress this. Edit: One of my buddies just got out of the Marines and is starting a tug company in French Polynesia. Found my new job even if it doesn't pay. lightpole fucked around with this message at 02:57 on Dec 4, 2016 |
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Quick, what do you answer when someone from the office asks "so do ships ever hit whales?"
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