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The Atomic Man-Boy posted:I'd recommend this to him if I were his campaign manager. Not because I think it would work, but because really, what the hell else has he got? I'd recommend it because I'd A: Want to lose and B: I'd really want to be in a position to use the outrage to start Trump TV.
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So basically Trump was caught violating the Logan act ( an act that has been around since 1799 and has never seen a conviction) twice over this campaign.
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Sep 30, 2016 06:14
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Pakled posted:God, that was an annoying episode. I can't believe so many people believed in the National loving Enquirer. "But they broke the John Edwards story!" Well for every real scandal they've broken, they've published about 1000 that are completely made up. It's also run by a personal friend of Donald Trump.
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Sep 30, 2016 06:15
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Instant Sunrise posted:nader voters split evenly between gore and bush according to cnn exit polls. quote:In the 2000 presidential election in Florida, George W. Bush defeated Al Gore by 537 votes. Nader received 97,421 votes, which led to claims that he was responsible for Gore's defeat. Nader, both in his book Crashing the Party and on his website, states: "In the year 2000, exit polls reported that 25% of my voters would have voted for Bush, 38% would have voted for Gore and the rest would not have voted at all."[19] (which would net a 13%, 12,665 votes, advantage for Gore over Bush.) When asked about claims of being a spoiler, Nader typically points to the controversial Supreme Court ruling that halted a Florida recount, Gore's loss in his home state of Tennessee, and the "quarter million Democrats who voted for Bush in Florida."[8]
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Sep 30, 2016 06:16
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GOP newspapers and journalists abound are abandoning Trump en masse.
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Sep 30, 2016 06:18
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ComradeCosmobot posted:Oh hey... Texas and several other Republican states are suing the federal government. Again. Oh hey they filed it in Texas too, which means one of the many extreme right-wing judges there will probably issue a 'Obama can't ever do it gently caress you' ruling and then we'll get to watch it get confirmed on appeal and end up at the SCOTUS where it'll go 4-4 unless one of the Conservative justices decide to stop being partisan shits.
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Sep 30, 2016 06:19
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let's see if I can make up something plausible sounding for "trump did 9/11" donald trump wanted to buy up a bunch of buildings in lower manhattan near the world trade center when they were really undervalued, not to mention the hit his ego took by owning the second tallest building in new york city. so he used some of his contacts from when he had run trump airlines to arrange for flight school for the hijackers in exchange for them adding the twin towers to their target list on september 11th. #followthemoney
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Sep 30, 2016 06:21
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I doubt this will actually matter much unless it stays a news story; back when GOP operatives and spies and generals were all going 'Man gently caress this psycho mango-man' that hurt it, but it has to keep getting hammered and stay in the news.
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Sep 30, 2016 06:23
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Eifert Posting posted:gently caress that, executive order to make him serve time in a glass box on times square. He should be forced to pay to install one of those fat nude statues of himself in every town in america
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Sep 30, 2016 06:23
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538 nowcast back up to 63.7% and Nevada and Florida have swung back to Clinton
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Sep 30, 2016 06:25
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lozzle posted:Kerry also got swiftboated. On Keepin It 1600 like two months ago they did a brief rundown of SBVT and why it worked like it did. Basically back in 2004 the Democratic campaign was still naive enough to think a smear like that was better off left alone instead of taking it head on because it "lowers the discourse." They only started reacting after a week or two and by then it was too late to change the story. A modern Dem campaign would get ahead of it right away by digging up Kerry's comrades from Vietnam and have them give interviews on what really happened. Basically, it was a learning experience.
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Sep 30, 2016 06:25
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That's the Polls Only one. Nowcast is 72%.  538 is still weird, though.
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Sep 30, 2016 06:26
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GalacticAcid posted:I was trying to think how to best encapsulate the disgusting mood and feel of public life then, and I came up with Toby Keith's album "Shock'n Y'all" While it's from his previous album, I'm just gonna go ahead and post the lyrics to Courtesy of the Red, White, and Blue as evidence for how awful this sort of thing was: Toby Keith posted:[Verse 1] That was the #1 Billboard country song when it came out. A dark time indeed.
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Sep 30, 2016 06:28
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"Freedom fries" is really all you need to know about post-9/11 America.
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Sep 30, 2016 06:31
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being liberal post-9/11 loving SUCKED everything was awful and nobody cared and even the loving Dixie Chicks got pilloried for daring to question what was obviously turning out to be a huge lie to justify a literal crusade funny how all that loving "you need to respect the office even if you don't respect the man" disappeared into the mist when it was a black Democrat at the top that shoe should've been a beautiful hanzo sword folded a thousand times e - and there should've been cherry blossom petals
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Sep 30, 2016 06:35
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VikingofRock posted:While it's from his previous album, I'm just gonna go ahead and post the lyrics to Courtesy of the Red, White, and Blue as evidence for how awful this sort of thing was: Hey man, I maybe a commie but I still sing along with this when it plays at the bar. Granted I'm usually pretty drunk.
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Sep 30, 2016 06:35
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lozzle posted:"Freedom fries" is really all you need to know about post-9/11 America. i went to school with some girls who were muslim and wore a hijab to school, and i would hear stories from them about people throwing poo poo out their car windows when they were walking home from school. it wasn't a good time.
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Sep 30, 2016 06:39
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North Carolina's also swinging back to blue if the Now-Cast bears out into the actual polls. And Ohio looks to be close behind it too.
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Sep 30, 2016 06:39
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I've been wondering if the early 2000's are going to become the hip nostalgia trip in 10 or so years. Because the to me the early 2000's are represented by middle school, nu-Metal, and post-9/11 paranoia.
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Sep 30, 2016 06:44
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lozzle posted:"Freedom fries" is really all you need to know about post-9/11 America. Wasn't freedom fries really only a thing at the congressional cafeteria and maybe the ground zero cafe at the Pentagon?
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Sep 30, 2016 06:44
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nine-gear crow posted:North Carolina's also swinging back to blue if the Now-Cast bears out into the actual polls. And Ohio looks to be close behind it too. Nowcast is still dominated by pre-debate polls. There's a lot of room to improve here.
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Sep 30, 2016 06:45
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Party Plane Jones posted:Wasn't freedom fries really only a thing at the congressional cafeteria and maybe the ground zero cafe at the Pentagon? lolz the French aren't dumb enough to follow us into Iraq BROWN PANTS!!
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Sep 30, 2016 06:46
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Casimir Radon posted:And chain emails. 
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Sep 30, 2016 06:47
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Party Plane Jones posted:Wasn't freedom fries really only a thing at the congressional cafeteria and maybe the ground zero cafe at the Pentagon? Some private restaurants followed suit. But one also started serving "impeach George W. Bush fries" so I guess it's a wash.
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Sep 30, 2016 06:49
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Party Plane Jones posted:Wasn't freedom fries really only a thing at the congressional cafeteria and maybe the ground zero cafe at the Pentagon?
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Sep 30, 2016 06:49
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The renaming foods thing was done the last time during WW1 to rename German products. So basically you were saying France refusing to go into Iraq was as bad as WW1 Germany with their atrocities in Belgium and all that.
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Sep 30, 2016 06:50
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also don't forget the vice president of the united states leaking made up information to the new york times on deep background, and then publicly pointing to the articles that leaked the information that he had made up as proof that other people agreed with him.
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Sep 30, 2016 06:50
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Party Plane Jones posted:Wasn't freedom fries really only a thing at the congressional cafeteria and maybe the ground zero cafe at the Pentagon? it's short hand for a broader movement of lovely jokes at the expense of anybody who dared question Glorious Leader
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Sep 30, 2016 06:50
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lozzle posted:"Freedom fries" is really all you need to know about post-9/11 America. I saw a fry truck with FREEDOM FRIES emblazoned on the side at one of our local fairs as recently as 2013
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Sep 30, 2016 06:51
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Party Plane Jones posted:Wasn't freedom fries really only a thing at the congressional cafeteria and maybe the ground zero cafe at the Pentagon? I can distinctly remember seeing it on a lot of local restaurant menus (though I was in a deeply Republican state at the time).
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Sep 30, 2016 06:53
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Instant Sunrise posted:also don't forget the vice president of the united states leaking made up information to the new york times on deep background, and then publicly pointing to the articles that leaked the information that he had made up as proof that other people agreed with him. And leaked the identity of an undercover CIA operative to score political points against her husband God, they were such a lovely administration, and I hope that they are remembered as being one of the worst of all time
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Sep 30, 2016 06:54
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The Glumslinger posted:God, they were such a lovely administration, and I hope that they are remembered as being one of the worst of all time
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Sep 30, 2016 06:55
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the vice president of the united states shot a man in the face and the guy he shot was the one who apologized
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Sep 30, 2016 06:57
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That's still funny.
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Sep 30, 2016 06:58
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Grundulum posted:That's still funny. I prefer this one: 
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Sep 30, 2016 07:01
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Grundulum posted:That's still funny. Yeah, you'd think people would have stopped being salty about Napoleon by now
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Sep 30, 2016 07:03
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French rifle for sale: Never used, dropped once.
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Sep 30, 2016 07:03
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Also worth noting: the meatiest post-debate information comes mainly from one pollster, PPP. If other major state-level polls corroborate those findings when they next publish, those odds will do plenty more climbing.
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Sep 30, 2016 07:03
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Casimir Radon posted:I've been wondering if the early 2000's are going to become the hip nostalgia trip in 10 or so years. Because the to me the early 2000's are represented by middle school, nu-Metal, and post-9/11 paranoia. I don't know. The 80s and 90s worked because it was a time where America was riding high on the defeat of the soviets (80s) and dealing with the crippling nihilism that came from having no nation to fight (90s). The 00s were all about having a poo poo president, the gay right's movement finally making ground, and being terrified of being killed by terrorists. Also, the whole "attack on U.S. soil" thing kind of sours it. It's easy to go "remember the ninja turtles or when the Star wars trilogy ended" for easy clickbait. Not so easy to go "remember when you were in elementary school and everything seemed normal until you were let out early for no reason to find out thousands of people were dead in your home city and you didn't know if your father, who was a cop, was going to come home that night till he, thank God, did?" Like, the former makes you happy. The later brings up some tough memories.
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Instant Sunrise posted:let's see if I can make up something plausible sounding for "trump did 9/11" flaw, his attention span. edit: given the reality-rewritting going on this week he probably deleted the WTC from his brain then add them back on 9/11.
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