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Imperialist Dog posted:My old school was in a rural HK village (it means it was a whole 15 minute walk to the KCR station), but mostly served middle class parents. Someone put a giant banner across from the school advertising London properties as investment so parents would see it when they left the school. Nobody calls it the KCR anymore you hipster
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Grand Fromage posted:Today I asked students to name a hero from Chinese history and all of them said Mao immediately. It took a second for me to contain my disgust before I could continue. Not even a deng xiao ping or sun yat sen? Heck I would settle for the first emperor of china. Freaking backwater Sichuan
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Farmland Park posted:I don't plan to watch that show at all, but I want to know how they're portraying China. Please tell! In the show China has elite hackers coming out of its rear end, who run rings around the US. Also China gets to annex the Congo for $2 trillion because the States is just magically broke lmao.
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Grand Fromage posted:Today I asked students to name a hero from Chinese history and all of them said Mao immediately. It took a second for me to contain my disgust before I could continue. Was it from one of these China threads or from somwhere else that I heard a teacher asking Chinese kids "who is you hero, and what do you want to be when you grow up" and all or nearly all of the boys wen "Mao, and I want to be a business man!"
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School Nickname posted:In the show China has elite hackers coming out of its rear end, who run rings around the US. Also China gets to annex the Congo for $2 trillion because the States is just magically broke lmao. Wait what
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caberham posted:Nobody calls it the KCR anymore you hipster Shut up you know I'm stuck in 1985
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Meatgrinder posted:What am I looking at here? World's worst bank robbery?
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Grand Fromage posted:World's worst bank robbery? Fojar38 posted:Wait what
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it's time for TGA's "Hey, We're Moving Offices in China! lol!" part one, in case you missed it well, i set the over/under on days off that we will get as a staff at 15.5. a few people have bet the over, so the line has moved to about 17.5. we are on our second day off. today my wife was near our old office, it's just like two blocks away, and said she saw three girls with boxes and bags outside our office, waiting around. one boxed had broken and fallen open and stuff was everywhere, it looked like a bunch of books, so my wife assumed it was my company. it sounds like the moving company won't be coming back, and despite the fact that i've asked work time and again if i can help them move, as i'm a dude that works out 5-6 times a week and is fairly well built, but I'm always turned down, it sounds like they have the marketing girls moving stuff, which is very lol and i secretly kinda like it because for all the hours they've spent playing FarmVille or DiamondCrush or whatever loving dumb game they are playing, it's nice of them to earn a paycheck for once. i asked my wife "please tell me you took a picture?" and she said no, it was too embarrassing. which is exactly why you should take a picture imo, but my wife is all class. i'm not. we now have five days off for the holiday, and we were kicked out of our old office today. we are officially office-less, if you don't count the picture in the original post. the HR girl i referenced in the original post is absolutely irate, she was talking to me and said "do you remember how you always say Chinese people tell you to 'wait a minute?' and then walk away?" and i was like "yeah", and she said "that's all anyone is doing to me now also" and i said "welcome to china" and she said "i'm furious" and i just wrote "lol". i kinda feel bad for her because i don't think she's that involved in this, other than it was her job to save face for herself and the company, which got blown up when andy and rich went over there and took pictures of our new office. lol! i'm going to spend the next few days drinking IPAs and Asahi Dry Black and playing with my son and not thinking about work at all, because there's nothing really we can do, because i'll ask people time and again if i can help in any way, shape or form, and even though i'm like the third highest person at the office, everyone assumes i am literally incapable of anything simply because I'm a foreigner. "Hey, don't forget you have to go to Beijing this week for that meeting," they'll say, and I'll say "yup" and they'll say "Did you buy the train ticket yet?" and i'll say "yup" and they'll say "Ok, please don't lose it, and please don't forget it" and i'm like "ok thx". people in my office unironically think they moving better than myself and the foreigners could have arranged. like they feel they are doing the best job that could have possibly been done. which is probably true given the circumstances, because none of us would have let our lease run up without a ready made office ready to move into. just seems like the first step in the moving process, right? ah well, who knows. will def. keep the thread updated as we figure out if this could be the very thing that causes a mass exit of employees and if this is the thing that ultimately kills the company. it would be funny if it were, lol!
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in other news, yesterday the fam was out and about and we saw a lady put a newspaper out on the sidewalk outside a shopping mall for her kid to poo poo, but then held the kid over the very edge of the newspaper and it pissed and crapped and missed the newspaper. there was also a huge fight at the mall, involving two ladies, and there were definitely a few slaps and a ton of face lost, as well as a huge group of people standing around with their arms behind their backs, myself included. it was a good day off
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Wow, he just had a vague idea of "present weapon, receive money" and ran with it with not even a second's worth of further thought. He didn't factor in that there might be resistance, or armed guards, or any kind of inconvenience. Even when he's there, he's so completely void of all independent thought and reason that he picks up his phone immediately to just chat about some other poo poo while he's robbing the bank. "Phone ring... so pick it up yes?? What means 'wait until better time'? This very confuse" So I'm assuming this guy's been awarded some kind of medal for being a paragon of Chinese 5000 year culture and mentality?
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KomodoWagon posted:Wow, he just had a vague idea of "present weapon, receive money" and ran with it with not even a second's worth of further thought. He didn't factor in that there might be resistance, or armed guards, or any kind of inconvenience. Even when he's there, he's so completely void of all independent thought and reason that he picks up his phone immediately to just chat about some other poo poo while he's robbing the bank. "Phone ring... so pick it up yes?? What means 'wait until better time'? This very confuse" it's like he works for my company and he was in charge of our move 1. decide to move 2. find a new place 3. pick a date to move 4. move on that date 5. finish skip the steps like "is the place ready to be moved into" or "check on the office" or "think 'can this actually get done in a few days?' a few days before"
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The Great Autismo! posted:....office amazingness So I get maybe $500  , the company loses new business, potentially loving my bonuses, and risks a potential closure.Yep, that's good decision making. Are you 100% sure everyone is going to get paid for the days off, I'd wager against that fact - hence the mktg girls pitching in. I'm in America's China, and I'd be concerned if this were my story.
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I really wonder if people here understand pettiness or if it's a cultural concept that doesn't translate.
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KomodoWagon posted:Wow, he just had a vague idea of "present weapon, receive money" and ran with it with not even a second's worth of further thought. He didn't factor in that there might be resistance, or armed guards, or any kind of inconvenience. Even when he's there, he's so completely void of all independent thought and reason that he picks up his phone immediately to just chat about some other poo poo while he's robbing the bank. "Phone ring... so pick it up yes?? What means 'wait until better time'? This very confuse" the best part is that the cop is just standing there with his baton while another guy does his job
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Jeoh posted:the best part is that the cop is just standing there with his baton while another guy does his job Imagine what rent-a-cops are like in a country where actual cops almost never do their jobs.
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url posted:So I get maybe $500 Wife and I have saved more than enough and aren't worried at all about the money. If I don't get paid full on the 15th we can always leave to Japan while we wait for the next move. I know one or two people that are living paycheck to paycheck so if I were in that situation yes I'd worry, but my entire mantra has been "you have to be able to up and leave at a moments notice in China" and we'll see if everyone has taken that advice. I mean my first paycheck in China I put 7,000rmb in my sock drawer for an emergency ticket if I needed it. I never have but you should always be ready to leave...always.
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The Great Autismo! posted:(...) but you should always be ready to leave...always. This really is a general rule for all third world (or developing) nations.
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The Great Autismo! posted:everyone assumes i am literally incapable of anything simply because I'm a foreigner. How are you able to stay in this country? This would infuriate me beyond measure, especially when surrounded by people so ineffectual and lazy. Do the Chinese not have any concept of self-criticahh who am I kidding we know they don't.
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The Great Autismo! posted:Wife and I have saved more than enough and aren't worried at all about the money. If I don't get paid full on the 15th we can always leave to Japan while we wait for the next move. I know one or two people that are living paycheck to paycheck so if I were in that situation yes I'd worry, but my entire mantra has been "you have to be able to up and leave at a moments notice in China" and we'll see if everyone has taken that advice. I mean my first paycheck in China I put 7,000rmb in my sock drawer for an emergency ticket if I needed it. I never have but you should always be ready to leave...always. Oh, you got your passports back?
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Grand Fromage posted:Today I asked students to name a hero from Chinese history and all of them said Mao immediately. It took a second for me to contain my disgust before I could continue. lmao
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KomodoWagon posted:How are you able to stay in this country? This would infuriate me beyond measure, especially when surrounded by people so ineffectual and lazy. Do the Chinese not have any concept of self-criticahh who am I kidding we know they don't. I deal with it by loving with them. It's not just a China thing, they also treat you like that in Korea. The idea that someone of another race is capable of literally anything is mind-blowing. I've had people argue with me that as a foreigner there is no possible way for me to make kimchi while they are eating the kimchi I made and brought in for feedback. I have heard similar stories from Japan but haven't lived there so I can't verify.
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Grand Fromage posted:I really wonder if people here understand pettiness or if it's a cultural concept that doesn't translate. you're not chinese you'll never understand
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It's an honest question there are cultural ideas that don't really translate to other cultures. Pettiness, being the bigger person, finding the thrower of a poo poo fit pathetic, these are all things that China doesn't seem to have and I don't know if it's just a completely foreign idea or what.
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Stringent posted:Oh, you got your passports back? no but if the company goes under I'll just go pick them up at the police station because they aren't going to extend visas for people that aren't working there anymore. It may take a few days but our rent is paid til December and we have savings here as well. KomodoWagon posted:How are you able to stay in this country? This would infuriate me beyond measure, especially when surrounded by people so ineffectual and lazy. Do the Chinese not have any concept of self-criticahh who am I kidding we know they don't. good food and good money, and if people assume you are IRL incompetent you can do normal work and blow everyone away. Like people are still floored when I finish a days work in a day and not a week and a half. They simply can't handle it. I was working 60+ hours a week in Chicago in 2009 for less than half of what I make now. So people think I can't do stuff. Ok, my wife and I laugh about it. who cares, I could not care less what a bunch of people think when they've finished telling me that if I don't clap my hands 10,000 times a day my health will suffer when I'm in my 70s. It's all nonsense at that level
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KomodoWagon posted:How are you able to stay in this country? This would infuriate me beyond measure, especially when surrounded by people so ineffectual and lazy. Do the Chinese not have any concept of self-criticahh who am I kidding we know they don't. You just have to assume that every single possible thing is going to be hosed up beyond all recognition every day, all the time. Then find places that usually don't gently caress up and hit them up regularly. Whenever I go to a new restaurant I just assume they will gently caress up the dishes. When they don't it's like "hey what a great day", whereas in the USA I assume everything will just run smoothly and when it doesn't people freak out. It's the complete opposite end of the spectrum and totally doable if you have the right mindset
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Grand Fromage posted:It's an honest question there are cultural ideas that don't really translate to other cultures. Pettiness, being the bigger person, finding the thrower of a poo poo fit pathetic, these are all things that China doesn't seem to have and I don't know if it's just a completely foreign idea or what. i know i was echoing the usual response give
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The Great Autismo! posted:and if people assume you are IRL incompetent you can do normal work and blow everyone away. Like people are still floored when I finish a days work in a day and not a week and a half. They simply can't handle it. This is true. You can make yourself look like the king of hard work without actually doing much just by getting your work done efficiently instead of spending nine hours on Taobao looking at shoes. My bosses are Hong Kongers who lived in the US for 30+ years, which is nice because it vastly decreases the China bullshit I have to deal with at work but it does mean I have to actually put in effort. Coworkers are easily impressed though. Darkman Fanpage posted:i know i was echoing the usual response give Is cool man I got it, I just like to seriouspost when I actually want to know something 
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Grand Fromage posted:I deal with it by loving with them. It's not just a China thing, they also treat you like that in Korea. The idea that someone of another race is capable of literally anything is mind-blowing. I've had people argue with me that as a foreigner there is no possible way for me to make kimchi while they are eating the kimchi I made and brought in for feedback. I have heard similar stories from Japan but haven't lived there so I can't verify. Foreigners don't know how to cook and have no food culture of their own. They have also never seen any of these wacky vegetables that are in China. Foreigners can only buy food outside. Do you know? The same people that believe this are the same people that can't boil water without starting a fire, and eat outside seven nights a week.
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I will say here in Sichuan there is a lot more food knowledge and while people initially think it's odd that a man knows how to cook, they don't try to actively deny it the way they did in Korea. Assuming everything will be hosed up always is the way to go. If you go into a situation assuming it will work efficiently, you will be frustrated. When things do work, it's a nice surprise to enjoy. You have to act as if anywhere you go, it's everyone's first day working there and also possibly their first day on Earth. They simply sprung into existence, fully formed, with no memories or life experience prior to your encounter with them. No one has ever done anything before or knows anything about it, even if it's a job they've been doing for decades. When you do find competent people you treasure them and hold on with both hands. The woman who runs the office where I work is the most competent person I've ever worked with in Asia and is more capable than the entire rest of the company combined. The only reason anything works is because she is there. I think every foreign employee would quit immediately if she left.
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here's some China text from my Facebook from three years agoquote:lol best text interaction last night. A girl that used to work at my office asked if I would be willing to help her friend find an oral English teacher. I said ok. All of this happened in Chinese. this is one of my most favorite Chinese gags. "Ok we will do your plan" but my plan is just their original plan, under the guise of "my plan". As in "we've decided to do your plan. Your plan is [my original plan]. Good luck" I've gotten it a ton, and it must work on other people in this country, but it doesn't work on me.
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Grand Fromage posted:It's an honest question there are cultural ideas that don't really translate to other cultures. Pettiness, being the bigger person, finding the thrower of a poo poo fit pathetic, these are all things that China doesn't seem to have and I don't know if it's just a completely foreign idea or what. I dunno, I've been to all sorts of places all over the world, and I've only ever heard of this kind of behavior - that is, acting like a huge baby, which is what you're describing - being regarded as normal and acceptable in China and Korea. Obviously, there are huge cultural differences all over the world. In many parts of Africa, for instance, while people have a great deal of warmth in regards to their family, their friends and their tribe/local community, it's not regarded as strange or a bad character trait to view people of lesser social status with contempt. Westerners, Americans in particular, appear incredibly self-centered to most cultures in the world. Russians have a sense of fatalism that is offputting to most other people. Germans despise the concept of humor, fun, or merriment. Every culture has its quirks, but nowhere in the world have I ever seen the total lack of emotional maturity and connection to the real world that people describe in China.
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Whatever happened to trolling that cowboy hat guy, telling him he was a traitor to China for living in Canada? A lot of non-Americans have a hard time wrapping their heads around the concept of "how are you" or "what's up" as a form of greeting rather than a legitimate question. But it's an especially odd question coming from Chinese people whose typical greetings involve asking someone if they've eaten or where they're going or what they're "busy with doing."
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nickmeister posted:Whatever happened to trolling that cowboy hat guy, telling him he was a traitor to China for living in Canada? The what's up is a regional thing too or was when I was younger. As a southerner who moved north I was shocked that people were just saying hi to me instead of wanting a detailed report if my week.
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The Great Autismo! posted:You just have to assume that every single possible thing is going to be hosed up beyond all recognition every day, all the time. Then find places that usually don't gently caress up and hit them up regularly. Whenever I go to a new restaurant I just assume they will gently caress up the dishes. When they don't it's like "hey what a great day", whereas in the USA I assume everything will just run smoothly and when it doesn't people freak out. It's the complete opposite end of the spectrum and totally doable if you have the right mindset The word you are looking for is "benevolent fatalism"
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I just heard on the radio that a guy somewhere in China, accused of killing his parents, is also suspected of killing 17 of the neighbours to cover his tracks. I have to google this to see if it's true but it wouldn't surprise me... F4rt5 fucked around with this message at 14:11 on Sep 30, 2016 |
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