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Smackdown Live and Talking Smack split the vote, Raw runs away with the prize.
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Seriously though that Cena interview is probably the best he's had in years. I don't know what it is, somehow everyone just seems to be much better on Smackdown like they have room to breathe.
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Sep 30, 2016 00:13
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Skinty McEdger posted:Seriously though that Cena interview is probably the best he's had in years. I don't know what it is, somehow everyone just seems to be much better on Smackdown like they have room to breathe. What you're saying is that wrestlers are more comfortable when not reciting verbatim the words that an insane old man screamed at them 2 minutes earlier? This is madness.
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Sep 30, 2016 00:25
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I pretty much consider Smackdown to be a 2.5 hour show now that Talking Smack is paired with it. It actually advances the plot of the main show.go go go go ROSCOE! posted:To be fair to whomever transcribed that (unless Kennedy wrote that himself) "New Finland" is phonetically correct
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Sep 30, 2016 01:01
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sticklefifer posted:I pretty much consider Smackdown to be a 2.5 hour show now that Talking Smack is paired with it. It actually advances the plot of the main show. But... but.... "OMG, why are they not showing this thing on show X instead of on show Y! This company is so stupid!"
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Sep 30, 2016 02:16
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dromal phrenia posted:He shits his pants, and rather than being embarrassed or denying it (and demanding his subordinates do the same), he celebrates it, and uses it to harass his longtime friend. How can you dislike this story? I eventually realized what you meant by this, but I was absolutely tickled by the idea of Vince making GBS threads his pants during a promo, returning to the backstage area and demanding that Patterson and Brisco also poo poo their pants in solidarity.
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Sep 30, 2016 03:15
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I haven't seen SD since Backlash but is Miz still Intercontinental Champion?
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Sep 30, 2016 03:54
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I sorta want to ask my parents for a replica IC Belt for my birthday coming up.
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Sep 30, 2016 03:55
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a.lo posted:I sorta want to ask my parents for a replica IC Belt for my birthday coming up. Yes and you should. You are welcome.
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Sep 30, 2016 03:57
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a.lo posted:I sorta want to ask my parents for a replica IC Belt for my birthday coming up. ask for this http://shop.wwe.com/the-miz-backlash-2016-15-x-17-framed-plaque-w%2F-ring-canvas/011-413-189-0.html
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Sep 30, 2016 04:19
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Vince is a 70-year-old teenager who uses his TV show to tell his latest fart jokes to millions of people.
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Sep 30, 2016 04:22
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Ruggington posted:ask for this heck, why not both?
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Sep 30, 2016 04:43
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Vince is, by all accounts, heavily involved in both Raw and SD, guys. I think it's time to look for alternative explanations for the discrepancy in quality than "Vince is an insane old man who ruins everything." Like maybe the writers have more influence over the shows than we thought.
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Sep 30, 2016 05:23
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Spermgod posted:Vince is, by all accounts, heavily involved in both Raw and SD, guys. I think it's time to look for alternative explanations for the discrepancy in quality than "Vince is an insane old man who ruins everything." Like maybe the writers have more influence over the shows than we thought. Nobody knows anything, until 10 years later we get the scoop on who REALLY ran things. So until then everyone is just going to latch onto The Big Names.
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Sep 30, 2016 05:26
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Spermgod posted:Vince is, by all accounts, heavily involved in both Raw and SD, guys. I think it's time to look for alternative explanations for the discrepancy in quality than "Vince is an insane old man who ruins everything." Like maybe the writers have more influence over the shows than we thought. I thought the explanation was that the head writer for NXT wrote Smackdown now.
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Sep 30, 2016 05:27
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Hace posted:Nobody knows anything, until 10 years later we get the scoop on who REALLY ran things. 2026: IT'S ME, AUSTIN. IT WAS ME ALL ALONG
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Sep 30, 2016 05:39
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Spermgod posted:Vince is, by all accounts, heavily involved in both Raw and SD, guys. I think it's time to look for alternative explanations for the discrepancy in quality than "Vince is an insane old man who ruins everything." Like maybe the writers have more influence over the shows than we thought. all hail ryan ward
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Sep 30, 2016 06:09
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Sep 30, 2016 06:17
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Vaguido posted:Splitting the tag division was a mistake. There's only three good teams on Raw, and at this point it's hard to argue Gallows and Anderson are a good team anymore because they keep losing. So all you have are New Day and Enzo and Cass. Smackdown has Alpha, Usos (who are good now), Slater and Rhyno, Breezango, Hype Bros, etc. And some of those names aren't nearly on the level of New Day or Enzo+Cass, but they're certainly above Shining Stars, Golden Truth and whatever other teams are on Raw. If you count Superstars teams, theres also Titus/Jinder and Bo/Axel for heel teams, which are more alliances than outright teams. Basically the lack of heel teams on RAW is why they didn't let JeriKO go after KO won the belt. I'm somewhat okay with that outcome since Jericho is pretty much KO's manager.
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Luigi Thirty posted:Vince is a 70-year-old teenager who uses his TV show to tell his latest fart jokes to millions of people. God bless America.
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Sep 30, 2016 10:00
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Raw's handling of their tag division and women's division is so god drat hilarious. I remember when the draft was over everyone was certain that Smackdown was going to be dead in the water on BOTH of those fronts. People were speculating that the tag division was designed to make American Alpha look like unbeatable gods and they'd just be running squash matches week after week because surely nothing else made sense with who they had to play with. People were questioning who the hell Becky was even going to feud with because the rest of the girls with her besides Nattie were the useless dregs or those who weren't ready for the big stage. In 6 weeks they revived the Usos, made Slyno from less than nothing, made viable midcarders out of Hype Bros, Breezango and Ascension when for months before that they couldn't even get on TV, and gave Eva, Naomi, and Carmella distinct and interesting characters and let Alexa get more over out of the gate than almost any NXT callup in history outside of Owens and Balor. The built two complete divisions from what everyone on this very forum considered to be trash. Raw's Tag Division had the hottest tag team since the TLC Era if not the freaking Road Warriors in the New Day. They had The Club, two of the biggest tag team workhorses and smark favorites in the industry who had just spent months getting heat and momentum by working with AJ Styles. They had Enzo and Cass, an absolutely red hot fan favorite. Even if you ignore all their other resources, that's three times as many over teams as Smackdown started with. What were they doing while Smackdown built their tag division from nothing? Sucking all the life out of New Day's act, burying Anderson and Gallows to the point nobody can take them seriously anymore, and having the Realest Guys give birth to an invisible baby before jobbing to the Main Eventers. Did they build one other team, or even make one of the teams they started with more over than when they began? Hell no! And now people are saying "Well, geez, this is all they've got!" AS IF ITS NOT THEIR FAULT THAT'S ALL THEY'VE GOT. And Raw's women? What was Raw doing while Smackdown turned four nothings into three worthwhiles and one great, and capped it off by bringing back Nikki Bella to elbow faces off? Coasting on Sasha and Charlotte without even a vague attempt to make anyone else matter. loving up something that vaguely resembles a face turn breakup angle for Dana at every turn. Having Nia endlessly squash randoms with no purpose or end in sight. And finally putting Bayley into that poo poo sundae only for her to wind up as just another scoop of vanilla instead of the cherry on top she could have been. And the amazing thing is that the Women may be one of the best parts of the show! Boy is that sitting on a bubble! Remember that first Raw after the draft, what a great show it was? We got completely fooled. The incompetence that its taken for them to leave their Tag and Women in this state by comparison to what Smackdown's creative has accomplished is staggering.
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Sep 30, 2016 10:02
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I'll give you all of that except that they've dropped the ball with Breezango. They've been on all of one show this month. 
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Sep 30, 2016 10:23
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They also did that with 2 hour shows, no overruns, and Otunga commentating. I think I see how Smackdown is fitting all this in. Daniel Bryan isn't in like 10 storylines at once like Steph/Mick and Shane is like baaarely in one storyline with Brock. Mick shows up more on an episode of Raw than Lucy shows up on a loving episode of I Love Lucy. Mick and Steph feel like they're supposed to be the stars of the show and every bit of drama revolves around them in some way. Bryan and Shane just feel like normal characters among other characters.
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Were the Club really Smark favourites? I might just be underestimating their popularity, but from what I remember about their NJPW run (at least the last year or so of it, which was when I started watching) not many people were really calling them a great team, or even particularly good. It might've been because New Japan's Heavyweight Tag Scene was dire at the time, but I was never that into them and they never seemed super popular. Like, lots of people loved Gallows and Anderson themselves because they're cool funny dudes with an entertaining podcast and Anderson especially was a really underrated guy who deserved a big push. But I don't remember the team itself being loved that much. Or maybe I just don't know what i'm talking about.
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SyntheticPolygon posted:Were the Club really Smark favourites? I might just be underestimating their popularity, but from what I remember about their NJPW run (at least the last year or so of it, which was when I started watching) not many people were really calling them a great team, or even particularly good. It might've been because New Japan's Heavyweight Tag Scene was dire at the time, but I was never that into them and they never seemed super popular. Like, lots of people loved Gallows and Anderson themselves because they're cool funny dudes with an entertaining podcast and Anderson especially was a really underrated guy who deserved a big push. But I don't remember the team itself being loved that much. Well, I can say for certain based on when I was living in Japan that Karl Anderson was pretty popular among the wrestling fans I met. And they got a nice reaction when they came out to defend the belts at WK10. Also harperdc told me one of his students used to get really excited because he thought him and KA looked alike. That was a fun day 
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Sanguinia posted:Well, I can say for certain based on when I was living in Japan that Karl Anderson was pretty popular among the wrestling fans I met. And they got a nice reaction when they came out to defend the belts at WK10. KA does rule a hell of a lot. I can agree with that.
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The stuff with Smackdown is weird, because aside from Styles I pretty much universally like the Raw roster guys better, but Smackdown has benefited from much better booking. So it's become the better show. It's kind of a shame really. How much talent that show has squandered over the years. Opinions on Club seemed kind of mixed coming in. People were excited because they were members of a popular stable but at the same time I do remember some people saying they weren't really much to get excited about. Their stuff with AJ was good, but to me they're one of the least interesting teams by themselves. Like I said earlier, they're both very good second bananas(Anderson especially) but by themselves they're not interesting. Kawalimus fucked around with this message at 13:07 on Sep 30, 2016 |
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SyntheticPolygon posted:Were the Club really Smark favourites? I might just be underestimating their popularity, but from what I remember about their NJPW run (at least the last year or so of it, which was when I started watching) not many people were really calling them a great team, or even particularly good. It might've been because New Japan's Heavyweight Tag Scene was dire at the time, but I was never that into them and they never seemed super popular. Like, lots of people loved Gallows and Anderson themselves because they're cool funny dudes with an entertaining podcast and Anderson especially was a really underrated guy who deserved a big push. But I don't remember the team itself being loved that much. Gun & Gallows were a completely serviceable team that pretty much everyone acknowledged was holding back MGKA from being the great wrestler that he is. When they were signed, I think that every one got excited because maybe a more robust tag division would let them shine. Instead, the tag divisions split and we are left with the Club as a completely serviceable team holding back Karl Anderson from having great WWE singles matches.
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One of the best things about current Smackdown booking, aside from everything else about it, is that they have come perilously close to giving us the holy grail fo the last ten years: the John Cena Heel Run. His new post-return gimmick of being self-aware that he is the only person who matters is great. Plus the number 2 angle on the show is that Dolph Ziggler is worthless and weak and should not have a job.
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sticklefifer posted:Every Newfie I've ever met pronounces the "found". No one from Newfoundland & Labrador pronounces it "found" and tourists who do are almost always subject to some sass hahaha
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Sep 30, 2016 14:24
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sticklefifer posted:Every Newfie I've ever met pronounces the "found". I'm from the province next door and I've never heard the "found" pronounced, you been dealing with some suspect-rear end newfies
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Sep 30, 2016 14:30
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Sep 30, 2016 14:34
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Chris James 2 posted:In like 20 hours the TNA thread is probably getting merged here Can't wait until TNA content is on the network so I can watch such great shows as ummmmmmmm
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Endless Mike posted:Can't wait until TNA content is on the network so I can watch such great shows as ummmmmmmm There was that one 5 star triple threat.
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Sep 30, 2016 15:03
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Let's not pretend everyone isn't looking forward to watching the art that was Black Reign.
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Sep 30, 2016 15:04
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Also the moment a bloody Joe rises up behind Angle with a look on his face like he's legitimately going to murder him there and then.
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There's those, there's the Motor City Machine Guns vs Beer Money 2/3 falls match, there's Cheex vs That Guy Cheex Fought, all sorts of top content on TNA network
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