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Vykk.Draygo posted:Is this a real thing? Sorry, the volume one was Panasonic. https://www.cnet.com/how-to/turn-off-banner-ads-on-your-2013-panasonic-tv/ Samsung put ads in your locally stored media. https://www.google.com/amp/www.theverge.com/platform/amp/2015/2/11/8017771/samsung-smart-tvs-inserting-unwanted-ads#vgi=18065531481367293928
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RZA Encryption posted:Sorry, the volume one was Panasonic. https://www.cnet.com/how-to/turn-off-banner-ads-on-your-2013-panasonic-tv/ Holy go gently caress yourself, Samsung. Like I needed more of a reason to boycott them.
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Wow, putting ads onto your own media is bullshit the likes of which I've never seen. But that's not a Tizen thing, that's just an awful thing independent of OS. Every TV OS I've seen is garbage. Don't most people just use better things like Chromecast/roku/Xbox?
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WebOS 3.0 on LG TVs is actually pretty decent. Also, Sony TVs come with Android TV built in now.
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Lowen SoDium posted:Good luck with that. the only phones on the market that are better than my nexus 4 are the iPhone 6s and the Xperia X Compact kill me, pete
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bull3964 posted:WebOS 3.0 on LG TVs is actually pretty decent. Well of course it's decent, it's WebOS! RIP best phone OS
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Alan_Shore posted:Wow, putting ads onto your own media is bullshit the likes of which I've never seen. But that's not a Tizen thing, that's just an awful thing independent of OS. Every TV OS I've seen is garbage. Don't most people just use better things like Chromecast/roku/Xbox? Can you get a decent TV with out it being "Smart" I'd prefer to just buy a high end panel and not have any of that trash.
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Jerk McJerkface posted:Can you get a decent TV with out it being "Smart" I'd prefer to just buy a high end panel and not have any of that trash.
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Jerk McJerkface posted:Can you get a decent TV with out it being "Smart" I'd prefer to just buy a high end panel and not have any of that trash. In summary gently caress Samsung's phones, TVs, and exploding washing machines
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Syrinxx posted:never connecting the TV to the internet at all
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Alan_Shore posted:Well of course it's decent, it's WebOS! RIP best phone OS Quoted for truth. I still miss the gesture area. Most of all, I miss the text input. Selecting text and moving the insertion point remains better to this day.
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Not sure if this is where to post it or not (I'll prolly be posting it on the VR thread as well), but if your Android phone seems to be using a lot more battery power than normal (like, say, going from 100 to 30 with little use), temporarily uninstall any Oculus apps from your phone. There's a problem with the installer that is causing the Android System to use way more battery power than it otherwise should be (for me, it's 56%). Supposedly a hotfix is being pushed.
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Syrinxx posted:I'd imagine most of the poo poo can either be turned off, or neutered by never connecting the TV to the internet at all. However, I think there are plenty of midrange TVs that have good panels but no "smart" garbage You can still get hacked through a TV OS you aren't using, firmware updates aren't optional because anything that isn't medical or mil-spec is forever in beta now, and you have to do exhaustive research to maybe determine if a TV with a panel worth dollars can have firmware updates delivered somehow other than OTA. And apparently Vizio remotes run a fork of CyanogenMod (evidence: their drat file manager was on the remote for one at a local Sam's Club). I'll probably just stop watching TV at some point.
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Can't you just buy the TV you want, plug something into the HDMI port, then leave it on that HDMI source FOREVER and not worry about stupid smart TVs and firmwares? Also I too miss the WebOS gesture area and keyboard shortcuts so much! How can nothing have bettered multitasking yet?
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Pretty much yes The only time I see the OS on mine is changing inputs
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Alan_Shore posted:Wow, putting ads onto your own media is bullshit the likes of which I've never seen. You know that Microsoft Windows 10 does this to your music, right?
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LastInLine posted:You know that Microsoft Windows 10 does this to your music, right? Even if you're not using Microsoft's music app? Not in my experience.
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LastInLine posted:You know that Microsoft Windows 10 does this to your music, right? No it doesn't. Not at all. Using MusicBee.
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bull3964 posted:Reminder that Google still doesn't have Nougat out for the N6 and N9 LTE. It's been what, almost a month? Between the incompetence of Google, OEMs, non-Samsung SoC houses, and carriers, it's as if the whole Android framework is designed to give consumers as little reasons as possible to spend big money on flagship hardware.
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I have a hard time thinking its bad that the N6 doesn't have Nougat out yet. I mean...it's not ready, why would you want it be out already? I think people are confused because Apple releases stuff for their devices all at once (right?). The problem with the comparison is that Apple holds their cards much closer to their chest and then when its ready for all devices releases it for everything. It's not like internally all their development for all their devices all magically reach the ready-to-release milestone all at the same time. It's the same situation with Google, but they just release it for each device as its ready. By wishing for Nougat to be ready for everything all at once, you're in effect wishing for releases to come out slower. Google is incompetent about a lot of things, but the N6 not having Nougat yet doesn't really have to be about incompetence.
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I think if apple released an update for supported phones but also said that the 6s wouldn't be getting it because it wasn't ready, you'd see similar comments. its pretty incompetent
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Blue Train posted:I think if apple released an update for supported phones but also said that the 6s wouldn't be getting it because it wasn't ready, you'd see similar comments. its pretty incompetent Well putting aside the fact that "releasing it for supported phones" but it not being available for the 6s doesn't make any sense (if it's not available for the 6s then it's not a supported phone): No it's not incompetent...it's just a different way of doing things. I mean, perhaps you'd prefer one way over the other, but incompetence doesn't have anything to do with it. Apple and Google are the same in regards to when OS updates are ready for devices across their line except Apple keeps it secret and Google doesn't. Apple holds back from releasing it for any device until its ready for all devices, Google doesn't.
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Sir Unimaginative posted:You can still get hacked through a TV OS you aren't using, firmware updates aren't optional because anything that isn't medical or mil-spec is forever in beta now, and you have to do exhaustive research to maybe determine if a TV with a panel worth dollars can have firmware updates delivered somehow other than OTA. Just curious, but how can a TV that is not connected to the internet get hacked?
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Here's me remembering when I couldn't watch TV for a couple days because Vizio hosed up their update servers or something (can't remember the exact circumstances)...even though I didn't use the Smart TV stuff at all. Needless to say, I definitely don't have it hooked up to wifi anymore.
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This could be fud, but wasn't there some smart tv that would connect to any unsecured wifi if it "realized" you weren't going to set it up? Like, to do updates and report on viewing habits and stuff.
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hooah posted:Even if you're not using Microsoft's music app? Not in my experience. Yeah, I meant if you use their music app. The point is that Samsung isn't the first. That said, it's hard to complain about it if you're going to patronize Google who, let's face it, are the undisputed kings of surrounding other people's content with their advertising. RZA Encryption posted:This could be fud, but wasn't there some smart tv that would connect to any unsecured wifi if it "realized" you weren't going to set it up? Like, to do updates and report on viewing habits and stuff. That was LG. It would also scan your network for media and send the filenames back home in the clear of anything it found.
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Thermopyle posted:Didn't Google say awhile back that the Android Auto interface was coming to phones? When's that happening? "later this year" Maybe they'll release it next week! Or maybe not.
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Thermopyle posted:I have a hard time thinking its bad that the N6 doesn't have Nougat out yet. I agree with the message, but it's also about perception. What you have here are two of Google's oldest and likely lowest volume devices being delayed to the point where they risk 3rd parties catching up and outpacing them. That sends the perception that Google is not dedicating the same level of resources to those devices as others. That can be excused for a standard manufacturer, but this isn't Google's business and likely all work for them can be absorbed into general Android development expenses. In other words, you can excuse accounting for lack of support or delays. This is exasperated by the fact that Google (to this point) has only released one phone a year. So, we have a single datapoint that's pointing to delay so it's easy to jump to thinking this is due to the age of the device. That said, I'm sure the real problem is some binary blob they are waiting on to fix some issue that's preventing them from signing off on the final version. However, THAT delay may be due to the age of the SoC and the resources dedicated to it by a third party for development. This isn't the first time we have had this problem, so the question is why hasn't Google done anything about it proactively and can they do anything about it without bringing SoC development in house. That, I believe, is the point of Oct 4th. Nexus devices have been collaboration. It's the Motorola Nexus 6, LG Nexus 5x, HTC Nexus 9, and Asus Nexus 7. Because of that arrangement, I don't know that Google has direct contracts or influence over component suppliers within devices. Motorola may be the one that needs to lean on Qualcomm for updated Snapdragon 805 drivers. Motorola themselves may be responsible for some portion of the software making up the device as well. The Pixel is different. It's not going to be a HTC Pixel. It's going to be a Google Pixel. HTC moves from being a hardware partner to a hardware ODM. The relationship between Google and HTC for the Pixel will be the same as the relationship between Apple and Foxconn. Because of that, Google may have greater control over component suppliers for the device. This will give them the latitude to deal directly with entities like Qualcomm and also bake more rigorous support terms in their contracts. Now, I'm not saying that they ARE doing it, but it does seem like it would be a key advantage to this shift in strategy with phones.
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Jerk McJerkface posted:Just curious, but how can a TV that is not connected to the internet get hacked? Because you can't necessarily keep it off the Internet. RZA pointed out LG are Those Fuckers, and if you have to update your TV's firmware OTA because something on it doesn't work on the current firmware, but you can't sideload the firmware, guess where that's coming from.
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I think calling Google incompetent is pretty inaccurate. They did create a competitive mobile ecosystem pretty damned fast, and it's one that probably the majority of people using it are pretty happy with.
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Scaramouche posted:I think calling Google incompetent is pretty inaccurate. They did create a competitive mobile ecosystem pretty damned fast, and it's one that probably the majority of people using it are pretty happy with. Even if they did have to steal it to do so. While it's technically impressive that the ecosystem actually works given its gestation period, I'd say Google owes as much to Microsoft's and ClassActionFursuit fucked around with this message at 10:26 on Oct 1, 2016 |
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bull3964 posted:The Pixel is different. It's not going to be a HTC Pixel. It's going to be a Google Pixel. HTC moves from being a hardware partner to a hardware ODM. The relationship between Google and HTC for the Pixel will be the same as the relationship between Apple and Foxconn. Because of that, Google may have greater control over component suppliers for the device. This will give them the latitude to deal directly with entities like Qualcomm and also bake more rigorous support terms in their contracts. Now, I'm not saying that they ARE doing it, but it does seem like it would be a key advantage to this shift in strategy with phones. They better be loving on the balls with support, because that will be the only thing that differentiate them from Samsung when Qualcomm is already losing the high-end SoC/modem war. I'll go as far as to say the Pixel phones are a last ditch insurance policy against Samsung as the latter is increasingly pulling ahead of everyone else in hardware and sales on Android.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=301KLektXeA I want to get off of Mr. Lenovo's Wild Ride.
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Kaiju Cage Match posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=301KLektXeA I love how they end with the hand of Lenovo punching the Motorola brand out of the frame.
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The Deleter posted:My Galaxy S6 has started randomly spamming the capacitive back button. At its worst, it's impossible to do anything on my phone. Googling tells me this is a hardware problem of some sort. Should I ditch it and look for something better or get a repair/replacement? I should be under warranty still but who knows. Lol anybody who's complaining about handing over your personal data to Android/Google. Apple or Google, pick your favorite Dark Lord to bend the knee. E: Samsung makes the CS phone number hard to find. 1 (800) 726-7864
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1-800-Samsung is hard to find? On the Canadian site it's shoved in your face under support.
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