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ErIog: Jul 11, 2001

TapTheForwardAssist posted:

In fairness, I never got attacked by a leopard in Iraq, so I guess we all have our crosses to bear.

Dude, wut, they crucified a bear? Got pictures?

# ? Oct 1, 2016 05:44

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# ? May 10, 2024 13:11

McGlockenshire: Dec 16, 2005; GOLLOCKS!

From The Internet Is Dead! What are some alternatives?

Oh boy.

If you already know what this is about, go ahead and skip this little intro.

ICANN, the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers, is in the process of separating itself from the administration and oversight of the National Telecommunications & Information Administration, which is under the US Commerce Department. ICANN and their subsidiary-of-sorts IANA, the Internet Assigned Numbers Authority, operate and coordinate critical elements of the internet, including both assignment of IP address blocks, and the "root zone", the base part of the domain name system (the thing that lets your computer turn domain names like https://www.clownpenis.fart into IP addresses and oh my god the forums want to link that because it has a www and I am not fixing it).

Anyway, this handover is really boring and reaction inside the tech industry spreads across the spectrum from "jeez that took a while to happen" to "who cares, stop wasting my time." It's officially not a big deal. I really want to underscore this. ICANN is enough of a bureaucratic mess already that moving them out from under government control can't possibly impact them in any actually meaningful way.

If you want to learn more about what's going on, ICANN has a simple fact sheet and a more IANA-centric FAQ, and here are articles from TechCrunch and Ars Technica that go over things in more detail.

So why in the world am I posting a geektastic infodump in the freep thread?

Well, as part of the transition away from US government control, the administrative process for updating the root zone is no longer directly controlled by a US governmental agency. Instead that administrative process is controlled by ICANN and the multinational stakeholders that have always been involved because they actually own the physical equipment and connections that the internet already uses.

A conspiracy theory took hold that the US government was handing over control over the internet to an international body and/or the UN. That's bad enough, right? Well, given that the conspiracy nuts don't have the technical knowhow to understand what's actually happening, they have to make up facts like that all communication on the internet now has to be approved by a giant ~~multinational~~ globalist corporation run by Iran and Russia and China instead of the US.

And then Ted Cruz got involved, and a few state attorneys general and a lawsuit, and then a last minute ruling from a judge to ... ignore the objections of these nuts. Phew.

Anyway, there have been posts about "AMERICA IS GIVING CONTROL OF THE INTERNET TO FOREIGN DICTATORS!!!1" on freep many times a day for a few weeks now, but they get low amounts of traffic and I haven't looked at them to see if they're funny or useful or sad or in any way worth posting.

As I write this it's October 1 both UTC and on the East Coast, which means that the transition has occurred. Freep isn't taking this very well.

the OP posted:

Tomorrow Barack Obama will hand the Internet as we know it over to a world body.

It's more than just the fact that the next time you sign in, everything you see has to be approved by the aforementioned globalist world body.

The Internet has now become a part of our daily lives. We use it to communicate, work and play.

Everything being sold now has the internet built in. From dishwashers to cars to microwaves to the curtains in your homes.

This world body will seek to spy on us, cut us off from each other and only people like Soros will have free access.

I myself am going to begin to wean myself off this tool as it will be going away soon.

What are some alternatives for

- Communication

- Knowledge

- Safety

Is there such a thing as local Internet that can be created inside the United States?

What about learning how to use an old style telegraph machine?

We of like mind need to begin to prepare.. as Obama is sending Muslim's to attack us.

And we won't have the comfort of the Internet to know what is going on around the world.

Do you think the World Body is going to approve of Free Republic?

Me neither. And I wouldn't shut it any other way.

Oh my.

quote:

To: ConservativeMan55

0bama just following the Clinton�s in giving away American technology to our enemies.

2 posted on 9/30/2016, 6:07:16 PM by SkyDancer ("They Say That Nobody's Perfect But Yet Here I Am")

This isn't even internally consistent with the conspiracy!

quote:

To: ConservativeMan55

* News sharing/content discovery through social media platforms is unchanged, though still biased toward the left. So getting news out through Facebook feeds and bots on WeChat remains an option.
* If you can get people engaged through an app and install it through various app stores, they can stay engaged and there is no censorship unless your app is banned from the app stores

3 posted on 9/30/2016, 6:07:44 PM by tbw2

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quote:
To: ConservativeMan55

Would it be possible for a private enterprise to someday create an Alternate Internet via satellite? I�m not too hip on this aspect of the digital age.

4 posted on 9/30/2016, 6:08:55 PM by CivilWarBrewing (Females DESTROYED America.)

I had the same thought on this. Just scrap it and start over, yet this time make it better.

7 posted on 9/30/2016, 6:11:53 PM by j_guru

Freeper Twinkie lived most of their life having to write real letters on real paper and I suppose that explains why they don't know how soft-wrap works.

quote:

To: ConservativeMan55

I lived most of my life having to write letters on real
paper, put them in envelopes and stick stamps on them and
put them in a mailbox. - We got a giant cellphone probably
25 yrs. ago to keep from having to keep stopping at every
payphone enroute anywhere. - We had no internet and, frankly, didn�t need it. We traveled and visited family
who lived away when we could. - Then everything got
complicated. Phones got tiny until now they are the size
or Oreo cookies. I had to do word processing on the
computer after my electric typewriter got outdated. -
(I carried my own MANUAL typewriter down to Huntsville, AL
to take a test for working at Marshall Space Flight Center
one summer when they were building the Saturn V rocket to
the moon. I thought surely I�d jinx it; but I didn�t manage
to.) :o/

We CAN live without a cellphone stuck in our ears or the
internet ruling our lives. JUST MAKE AN EFFORT AND STICK TO
IT!

14 posted on 9/30/2016, 6:24:34 PM by Twinkie (John 3:16)

Even JimRob thinks it's real.

quote:

To: ConservativeMan55

The Internet has always been good at routing past damage, if things go sideways there are ways to recover. We shouldn�t be in this position at all, but I�m confident when the thought police shut us down we�ll find a way to come back. The worst case is we (rightwing) will be pushed into the shadows, hidden from Google, deleted from Twitter, etc, and to a small extent this is already what is happening in isolated cases. A mass purge is what the myopic left want and is exactly what will undo them in the end.

18 posted on 9/30/2016, 6:38:42 PM by John Robinson (I am a twit @_John_Robinson)

quote:

To: tbw2

It seems to me the biggest threat is the control of the domains. They can just shut anyone off, at a whim. Oh sure they have rules, but rules are malleable, now more than ever. I see the whole thing in my mind.

19 posted on 9/30/2016, 6:39:14 PM by dr_lew (I)

Freeper Democrat_media cross-posted this screed to a whole bunch of related threads. This is the shortest of them. They have a really, really bad obsession with the number of Muslim countries.

quote:

To: ConservativeMan55

That darknet is interesting too.

Thanks to all who tried to stop this with a lot of hard work especially Bushwon.

hxxps://www.popularresistance.org/creating-an-alternative-internet-to-keep-the-nsa-out/

Goodbye free speech and Internet It was nice while it lasted.

It might be nothing tomorrow but in 2 years, 5 years you won�t recognize the Internet

Icann will control the Internet.The UN will control Icann.57 Muslim countries control the UN. These Muslim countries act as a block. They will sooner or later remove sites critical of Islam from search engines which will lead to these websites slowly dying .

This is like a living nightmare.

Our only Hope is Trump wining and reversing this If the wins then I know he will reverse it. He has to win Florida and ohio. I hate Islam ,obama, the UN and hillary clinton

24 posted on 9/30/2016, 6:42:37 PM by Democrat_media (One more day till Obama hands over the internet to Muslim controlled UN. we are don)

Freepers: He has to win Florida and ohio. I hate Islam ,obama, the UN and hillary clinton

quote:

To: dr_lew

Agreed.

Gun sales online will be targeted first.

25 posted on 9/30/2016, 6:43:32 PM by ConservativeMan55 (In America, we don't do pin pricks. But sometimes we elect them.)

quote:

To: ConservativeMan55

Friggin� commie �RAT politicians are always giving away something that doesn�t belong to their sorry asses. Dumbass Jimmah Cartah gave away the Panama Canal that the Americans had invested a lot of blood, sweat and money into building.

39 posted on 9/30/2016, 7:14:57 PM by FlingWingFlyer (Forget the media's "endorsements" of Clintoon. They are unfit to be Americans. Vote Trump!)

From Paxton Loses Last-Minute Bid to Stop Federal Internet Transition posted by freeper bushwon

The "Paxton" there is the Texas AG.

quote:

To: bushwon

Now the free markets go to work to circumvent ICANN and cheat them out of their prize.

3 posted on 9/30/2016, 4:16:57 PM by RoosterRedux (An unidentified enemy is safe from defeat -- Maj. Gen. Patrick Brady)

And you will find exactly zero of this happening, of course, as that'd be stupid because the conspiracy is false.

Now on the other hand, let's give the idea a bit of consideration. If ICANN goes rogue, then yes, new root servers can be brought up to route around the problem without too much trouble, but imagine all the insane bureaucratic failures that'd have to occur for this kind of effort to even get started. We're talking about a failure to manage the internet from the very people that have helped coordinate, organize, and run it for decades upon decades. If we ever get to that point, something horribly wrong has happened and chances are that parallel competing root servers would be only the first of many things that would have to be brought up.

It's all Obama's fault anyway.

quote:

To: bushwon

The judge was nominated by Barack Obama on January 7, 2015. They will side with the left 100% of the time.

7 posted on 9/30/2016, 4:19:27 PM by boycott

quote:

To: bushwon

You don't believe the internet will go underground if some foreign power tries to control it.

That's when the fun really begins.

As the Globalization Forces try to control the world, the world (and its rebel forces in tech) will rise up to set the world free.

It ain't about the money...it's about the challenge.

The techies are naive because they are young, but they are rebellious and dislike being controlled.

16 posted on 9/30/2016, 4:27:57 PM by RoosterRedux (An unidentified enemy is safe from defeat -- Maj. Gen. Patrick Brady)

quote:

To: bushwon

This whole lack of effort was too little too late. The Coup has happened.

19 posted on 9/30/2016, 4:30:46 PM by stillfree? (My My My)

quote:

To: bushwon

Watch for consrvative news sites be shut down...just like in Commie China.

Drudge, Breitbart. Gatway Pundit, etc are in the crosshairs of the globalists/marxists.

CW2 developing...

21 posted on 9/30/2016, 4:32:39 PM by newfreep ("If Lyin' Ted was an American citizen, he would be a traitor.")

quote:

To: bushwon

This shows me that the Republican leadership supports this action 100%. We all know they are all part of the NWO and open borders, so this aids in the global agenda. Next a tax on the use by the UN

28 posted on 9/30/2016, 4:35:48 PM by stockpirate (OBAMA MUST BE ON THE PAYROLL OF THE CLINTON FOUNDATION.)

quote:

To: bushwon

Of all the poo poo we've had to deal with, this may be the most infuriatingly FUBAR !

Right now I'm rootin' for the hacker kids to unleash chaos on the fascist bastards behind this.

I truly regret not having the requisite skills to join them . . .

47 posted on 9/30/2016, 4:45:02 PM by tomkat

quote:

To: RoosterRedux

Have faith. All is not lost...yet.;-)

Why should I have any faith in Barack Obama, Google and the UN? Insane idea. The proggies are playing the long game on this one.

72 posted on 9/30/2016, 5:29:36 PM by lodi90 (Clear choice for Conservatives now: TRUMP or lose)

quote:

To: bushwon

crap. it�s over. our freedom is gone.

get prepared.

85 posted on 9/30/2016, 6:15:41 PM by CottonBall

quote:

To: RoosterRedux

It can and will be appealled in the dark, deep web.

That's kind of missing the point. There's never going to be a way to stop dark web (e.g. TOR) or deep web (sharing links with IP addresses, etc). But the vast majority of average joe internet users are going to get funneled into the globalist, light and shallow internet thanks mainly to Google and others to whom ICANN is already just a plaything.

103 posted on 9/30/2016, 7:28:38 PM by palmer (turn into nonpaper w no identifying heading and send nonsecure)

quote:

quote:
To: Democrat_media

Icann will control the Internet.The UN will control Icann.57 Muslim countries control the UN. These Muslim countries act as a block. They will sooner or later remove sites critical of Islam from search engines which will lead to these websites slowly dying

That is certainly possible. But much sooner than that the media and Google and Facebook and similar ilk will control the web and they will block criticism of Islam. Actually I think that's basically the case already.

106 posted on 9/30/2016, 7:37:06 PM by palmer (turn into nonpaper w no identifying heading and send nonsecure)

And judging from some of the blatant lies I have heard lately from people professing to be Christians. I am becoming less sure that is a bad idea.

107 posted on 9/30/2016, 7:44:48 PM by sport

And from Obama handing The Peoples� Internet to Communist China posted by freeper Sean_Anthony

In case you were wondering where the China angle came from,

quote:

To: Texas Eagle

The US military created the internet. It is ours, and we made it happen. It is not Obama�s to give away. I heard the talking heads in support of this fiasco yesterday saying that it would be best for commercial enterprise to run it. This is the same argument, if I recall, for letting the Panama Canal be open to commercial interests, which turned out to be the Chinese, who now operate the canal. The real reason is to eliminate criticism and free speech.

5 posted on 9/30/2016, 8:56:07 AM by Doche2X2

Freeper marktwain has an informed son-in-law. Freeper UCANSEE2, on the other hand ...

quote:

quote:
To: Texas Eagle

I talked to my Son in Law about this. He said it is a big fuss about nothing. He is an expert on networking on the Internet. It is his full time job. His points:

1. The ICANN stays in the U.S. with its infrastructure and expertise.

2. The ICANN remains an American corporation, subject to American laws.

3. The ICANN has very little real power. Abuses would be near instantly detected by network managers, and workarounds implemented.

4. Foreign governments like China who want to censor the Internet in areas under their control already do about as much as they can. The ICANN has no effect on that.

That is what the subject matter expert told me.

10 posted on 9/30/2016, 9:01:57 AM by marktwain

Ask your son in law about the following:

If Statements 1-4 that you listed are true, then what is the purpose of handing over CONTROL of ICANN to China/U.N. ?

13 posted on 09/30/2016 9:08:07 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)

quote:

To: marktwain

So, this is a long planned, slowly implemented way to remove government funding of part of ICANN.

That would make sense if we had a President who was committed to reducing the 'reach' and 'cost' of our government, but we are talking about a President who is happy to fund sex changes for transgender midgets.

WHY would he be concerned about reducing costs ? Especially considering it is such a minor cost.

19 posted on 9/30/2016, 9:13:39 AM by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)

Jesus, look at this stupid poo poo. Where do they even get it?

quote:

To: Sean_Anthony

I don�t trust the Chinese with anything. So they will now have control over all the IP addresses and we will have to go through them to obtain �private� IP addresses? To me this spells big trouble.

23 posted on 9/30/2016, 9:15:08 AM by gawatchman

quote:

To: marktwain

I talked to my Son in Law about this. He said it is a big fuss about nothing...

You trust Google and Facebook to have our best interests at heart? Why? You trust what is now will always be? Why?

This is Obamacare all over. We all know Obamacare is just a pit stop on the road to full blown socialized medicine. This is no different. The progs play the long game. All they doing now is breaking the current system. Later they will come back and finish us off.

26 posted on 9/30/2016, 9:20:34 AM by lodi90 (Clear choice for Conservatives now: TRUMP or lose)

quote:

To: Sean_Anthony

I�m getting sick and tired of Obama pushing America down so the rest of the world can get pushed up. His globalist mindset needs to be stopped COLD in its tracks in November. Hillary is the godmother of Obama�s policies. It is time to bring back an American exceptionalism mindset into the White House. It is time to make America great again.

45 posted on 9/30/2016, 10:30:30 AM by Doctor Freeze

# ? Oct 1, 2016 07:33

McGlockenshire: Dec 16, 2005; GOLLOCKS!

One more for tonight. No context necessary.

Freepers:

quote:

To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain

STOP TALKING ABOUT THE drat PORNSTARS!!!

7 posted on 9/30/2016, 7:20:19 PM by sagar

# ? Oct 1, 2016 07:45

Mister Facetious: Apr 21, 2007; I think I died and woke up in L.A.,
I don't know how I wound up in this place...

Prism posted:

It works as normal, at least as much as it ever works. That's Jim Robinson, not Dale.

Sorry! For obvious reasons ( :tizzy:

), I tend not to read the Freep thread more than a couple times a year. I forgot JimRob runs the ~~Olive Garden~~ site.

# ? Oct 1, 2016 08:19

Twelve by Pies: May 4, 2012; Again a very likpatous story

Argh! The government is bad! We need less government, to allow the free market to make the best decisions for us!

Obama is giving up ICANN to free market control? Argh! The free market is bad! We need more government, to allow the government to make the best decisions for us!

# ? Oct 1, 2016 08:26

SocketWrench: Jul 8, 2012; by Fritz the Horse

McGlockenshire posted:

From The Internet Is Dead! What are some alternatives?

Oh boy.

If you already know what this is about, go ahead and skip this little intro.

ICANN, the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers, is in the process of separating itself from the administration and oversight of the National Telecommunications & Information Administration, which is under the US Commerce Department. ICANN and their subsidiary-of-sorts IANA, the Internet Assigned Numbers Authority, operate and coordinate critical elements of the internet, including both assignment of IP address blocks, and the "root zone", the base part of the domain name system (the thing that lets your computer turn domain names like https://www.clownpenis.fart into IP addresses and oh my god the forums want to link that because it has a www and I am not fixing it).

Anyway, this handover is really boring and reaction inside the tech industry spreads across the spectrum from "jeez that took a while to happen" to "who cares, stop wasting my time." It's officially not a big deal. I really want to underscore this. ICANN is enough of a bureaucratic mess already that moving them out from under government control can't possibly impact them in any actually meaningful way.

If you want to learn more about what's going on, ICANN has a simple fact sheet and a more IANA-centric FAQ, and here are articles from TechCrunch and Ars Technica that go over things in more detail.

So why in the world am I posting a geektastic infodump in the freep thread?

Well, as part of the transition away from US government control, the administrative process for updating the root zone is no longer directly controlled by a US governmental agency. Instead that administrative process is controlled by ICANN and the multinational stakeholders that have always been involved because they actually own the physical equipment and connections that the internet already uses.

A conspiracy theory took hold that the US government was handing over control over the internet to an international body and/or the UN. That's bad enough, right? Well, given that the conspiracy nuts don't have the technical knowhow to understand what's actually happening, they have to make up facts like that all communication on the internet now has to be approved by a giant ~~multinational~~ globalist corporation run by Iran and Russia and China instead of the US.

And then Ted Cruz got involved, and a few state attorneys general and a lawsuit, and then a last minute ruling from a judge to ... ignore the objections of these nuts. Phew.

Anyway, there have been posts about "AMERICA IS GIVING CONTROL OF THE INTERNET TO FOREIGN DICTATORS!!!1" on freep many times a day for a few weeks now, but they get low amounts of traffic and I haven't looked at them to see if they're funny or useful or sad or in any way worth posting.

As I write this it's October 1 both UTC and on the East Coast, which means that the transition has occurred. Freep isn't taking this very well.

Oh my.

This isn't even internally consistent with the conspiracy!

I had the same thought on this. Just scrap it and start over, yet this time make it better.

7 posted on 9/30/2016, 6:11:53 PM by j_guru
Freeper Twinkie lived most of their life having to write real letters on real paper and I suppose that explains why they don't know how soft-wrap works.

Even JimRob thinks it's real.

Freeper Democrat_media cross-posted this screed to a whole bunch of related threads. This is the shortest of them. They have a really, really bad obsession with the number of Muslim countries.

Freepers: He has to win Florida and ohio. I hate Islam ,obama, the UN and hillary clinton

From Paxton Loses Last-Minute Bid to Stop Federal Internet Transition posted by freeper bushwon

The "Paxton" there is the Texas AG.
And you will find exactly zero of this happening, of course, as that'd be stupid because the conspiracy is false.

Now on the other hand, let's give the idea a bit of consideration. If ICANN goes rogue, then yes, new root servers can be brought up to route around the problem without too much trouble, but imagine all the insane bureaucratic failures that'd have to occur for this kind of effort to even get started. We're talking about a failure to manage the internet from the very people that have helped coordinate, organize, and run it for decades upon decades. If we ever get to that point, something horribly wrong has happened and chances are that parallel competing root servers would be only the first of many things that would have to be brought up.

It's all Obama's fault anyway.

And judging from some of the blatant lies I have heard lately from people professing to be Christians. I am becoming less sure that is a bad idea.

107 posted on 9/30/2016, 7:44:48 PM by sport

And from Obama handing The Peoples� Internet to Communist China posted by freeper Sean_Anthony

In case you were wondering where the China angle came from,

Freeper marktwain has an informed son-in-law. Freeper UCANSEE2, on the other hand ...

Ask your son in law about the following:

If Statements 1-4 that you listed are true, then what is the purpose of handing over CONTROL of ICANN to China/U.N. ?

13 posted on 09/30/2016 9:08:07 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)

Jesus, look at this stupid poo poo. Where do they even get it?

You'd think they'd be all for this since super obama and the legion of Democrats can shut up freepers any day now while the government has control over the internet

# ? Oct 1, 2016 10:16

Mors Rattus: Oct 25, 2007; FATAL & Friends
Walls of Text
#1 Builder
2014-2018

The Constitution binds him with golden bands and mystic signals when he tries.

# ? Oct 1, 2016 10:32

Ambitious Spider: Feb 13, 2012; Lipstick Apathy

Mors Rattus posted:

The Constitution binds him with golden bands and mystic signals when he tries.

I thought mystic signals were how Hillary communicated with Lester during the debate

# ? Oct 1, 2016 14:21

Mors Rattus: Oct 25, 2007; FATAL & Friends
Walls of Text
#1 Builder
2014-2018

My iPad apparently doesn't know the word sigils.

# ? Oct 1, 2016 15:01

WrenP-Complete: Jul 27, 2012

Now I understand!

My phone always writes arcade when I want Akkadian. When would I ever be talking about arcades?!

Uh... My phone should just give up and lie down in traffic!

(How is my Dale Reed impression coming)

# ? Oct 1, 2016 15:05

SocketWrench: Jul 8, 2012; by Fritz the Horse

Your phone's dictionary seems to be stuck in Dale Reed's time

# ? Oct 1, 2016 15:19

Haxin Jackson: Apr 3, 2011

quote:

To: marktwain

So, this is a long planned, slowly implemented way to remove government funding of part of ICANN.

That would make sense if we had a President who was committed to reducing the 'reach' and 'cost' of our government, but we are talking about a President who is happy to fund sex changes for transgender midgets.

WHY would he be concerned about reducing costs ? Especially considering it is such a minor cost.

19 posted on 9/30/2016, 9:13:39 AM by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)

Freepers: happy to fund sex changes for transgender midgets :v:

# ? Oct 1, 2016 16:26

Islam is the Lite Rock FM: Jul 27, 2007; by exmarx

SocketWrench posted:

You'd think they'd be all for this since super obama and the legion of Democrats can shut up freepers any day now while the government has control over the internet

Now all freep downtime can be blamed on the UN!

# ? Oct 1, 2016 18:21

Elephant Ambush: Nov 13, 2012; ...We sholde spenden more time together. What sayest thou?; Nap Ghost

Freepers: crap. it’s over. our freedom is gone.

# ? Oct 1, 2016 18:32

McGlockenshire: Dec 16, 2005; GOLLOCKS!

Islam is the Lite Rock FM posted:

Now all freep downtime will be blamed on the UN!

ftfy

Meanwhile, the freakout continues. From The Internet Handover Scam posted by freeper Ultra Sonic 007.

The article (ab)uses bold and italic way more than even I am capable of. Here's the conclusion, with original formatting.

quote:

What does this all mean in terms of the alleged "handover" and thus what is the risk of "censorship" and similar, beyond what can and does already happen?

drat little.

With that said I happen to support blocking this move, simply because I'm not convinced that anyone has done the homework to prevent this from turning into yet another multinational boondoggle. UN anyone? UN "peacekeepers" raping and pillaging those they are claiming to help anyone? Yeah, that's a problem, but it's a different class of problem than "oh my God, the Internet will die and be censored if some bad person does X."

Uh, no it won't. But in my opinion corruption has already been an issue when it comes to DNS and IP addresses, and that was with a monopoly contract as we have now, albeit in an earlier form -- 20+ years ago! To potentially enlarge that corruption is bad. To lessen it would be good, but thus far nobody has managed to convince me that this transition would lessen it or even keep it at the present level. For this reason I'm opposed, but note that the current screamfest has exactly nothing to do with corruption and everything to do with imaginary bogeymen that do not exist.

Finally, unlike most of the so-called "pundits" and all of the politicians I actually have plenty of relevant experience in this area and know what I'm talking about.

So, the author isn't really wrong here. As I noted before, ICANN is the dictionary definition of a bureaucracy expanding to fit the needs of the ever-expanding bureaucracy. I won't call it corrupt, but it's certainly convoluted. I'm just choosing to take the optimistic approach that it can't really be made any worse.

But freepers are gonna freep.

quote:

quote:
To: Ultra Sonic 007

�With that said I happen to support blocking this move...�

So he writes a bunch of blowhard fluff before saying he agrees with Cruz and Trump.

6 posted on 9/30/2016, 11:34:44 PM by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)

Because he knows what this can turn into. Basically he�s saying that everything is fine as long as everyone keeps doing what�s been done.

But ICAAN has control of IPs & without an IP you don�t have internet connection. Takes a fool to ignore that danger.

9 posted on 9/30/2016, 11:48:46 PM by Kenny

quote:

To: Ultra Sonic 007

Sounds like someone is just starting to understand the methods of deception and depths the globalist are undertaking to achieve their goals. Cruz has always been a globalist, look at his voting record. If Trump does not win, America, as we know it, is done.

12 posted on 10/1/2016, 12:08:28 AM by JoSixChip (Cruz <- sleaze; Clinton <- criminal; Trump <- winner)

I'm not sure if they're starting to say it because they don't like Cruz or what, but ...

quote:

To: Ultra Sonic 007

Any politician screaming this nonsense �Obama has given away our internet!� is an idiot.

14 posted on 10/1/2016, 12:12:56 AM by Dallas59 (Only a fool stumbles on things behind him.)

Oops, spoke too soon.

quote:

To: Ultra Sonic 007

This guy gives a long winded technical lesson but doesn�t address the real danger except at the end briefly. Why is it so important that the American developed ICANN be handed over to foreign governments since the internet is working fine now? So they can control all IP address allocation and internet namespace. This means they can shut down websites, domains, redirect users , etc, etc. All ISP�s will be under government control and not ours.

19 posted on 10/1/2016, 12:50:48 AM by gawatchman

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quote:
To: gawatchman

I see taxes, fees, and new service charges imposed on ISP owners in order to fund the world�s poor. At least that will be the excuse for some kind of money grab.

21 posted on 10/1/2016, 2:44:56 AM by doosee (Captain, we are approaching a new level of Hell.)

Exactly. The UN will control the Internet to impose a global tax and to suppress free speech.

22 posted on 10/1/2016, 3:11:26 AM by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)

quote:

To: SkyPilot

Yes, I don�t see anything to prevent the UN or its designated alphabet body from imposing fees, taxes etc. worldwide: if you want to use the system at all, you have to pay the UN. Isn�t that where this is headed???? And they can choose whose payments to accept...... if they want to censor some they will. They can re-assign existing addresses. I suppose an entity can ignore the UN body�s decision and try to continue with business as usual, but all sorts of addressing conflicts could arise.

23 posted on 10/1/2016, 3:31:27 AM by Enchante (Hillary's new campaign slogan: "Guilty as hell, free as a bird!! Laws are for peasants!")

So, so close...

quote:

To: Ultra Sonic 007

Thanks for posting this. I was wondering why congress was not doing anything about the handover. Now I know, and a lot more besides, and my concern has been alleviated. However it was a needless thing to do. FUBO

24 posted on 10/1/2016, 3:36:31 AM by SandwicheGuy (*The butter acts as a lubricant and speeds up the CPU)

quote:

To: stars & stripes forever

Hopefully a better, honest, and freer system will take this one�s place in the near future.

You can always count on the U to be fair and honest. The surrender of this to the UN will give them the ability to install a tax the wet dream of all one worlders.

Look at the insanity of the EU, where a group of elitists decide what size tea pot people in England can use.

The stability of the internet is not a technical issue, we likely can't even imagine what new capabilities lie in the near future. The real issue is political and politics is never stable in tyrannies.

30 posted on 10/1/2016, 4:32:10 AM by itsahoot (GOP says, Vote Trump. But if your principles won't let you, Hillary is OK.)

quote:

To: Kenny

But ICAAN has control of IPs & without an IP you don�t have internet connection. Takes a fool to ignore that danger.

Exactly, and let the refrain from the sheeple scream, �IT CAN�T HAPPEN HERE.� Yeah, like we could never have an African muslim president represent Islam and ignore decent American citizens.

33 posted on 10/1/2016, 4:47:06 AM by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed)

It's already started! :tinfoil:

quote:

To: Ultra Sonic 007

I think I got hit with them. I tried to save an email, document with the word �devotion� in the subject line. Tried it twice. Never got it.

53 posted on 10/1/2016, 8:22:08 AM by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)

quote:

quote:
To: Enchante; Lera; Roman_War_Criminal; SaveFerris; pastorbillrandles

And they can choose whose payments to accept...... if they want to censor some they will.

I think you hit on a very cogent point, namely, that the handover of the Internet to the UN will not only suppress speech and freedom and impose taxes, but will also involve how that tax and things are paid for.

Control of who can buy and sell.

39 posted on 10/1/2016, 5:19:20 AM by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)

Mark. of. the. Beast.

57 posted on 10/1/2016, 10:44:05 AM by themidnightskulker (And then the thread dies... peacefully, in it's sleep....)

# ? Oct 1, 2016 19:26

McGlockenshire: Dec 16, 2005; GOLLOCKS!

A couple more from Obama�s handing off Internet to China Controlled UN ITU now a fait accompli posted by freeper Sean_Anthony.

the article posted:

Welcome to Day 1 of the World Wide Web under new�foreign�management.

As quickly as you could say Barry Soetoro the Internet was all but officially stamped �Made in China� at midnight last night.

No notice of the dramatic change was made by the New York Times, Washington Post or any of the other mainstream media power brokers.
[...]
To the judge Obama turning �the peoples Internet� over to the Peoples Republic of China-controlled United Nations International Telecommunications Union (ITU) is a matter of �hearsay�.

quote:

To: Sean_Anthony

10 years from now the Internet will definitely be completely censored unless Trump wins and takes the Internet back from UN control

Icann now controls the Internet. The USA controlled the Internet from its beginning in the early 1990�s to yesterday.

The UN( The evil cabal of authoritarian dictators and Islamics) controls Icann which controls the Internet now thanks to evil Obama giving it away to them.

anyone who thinks these villains, won�t try to censor the Internet is insane.

Just one way they could do it is to put pressure on search engines like Google to put websites that they don�t approve on black lists(remove them from search results so people can�t find these websites).

when will this start? who knows but as the years go on you will see less and less websites that don�t espouse what these villains believe, nothing about freedom, nothing good, nothing critical of Islam , nothing pro USA or conservatism etc.

A poster here arhur wildfire posted an Icann appliction .

Anyone think If I try to start a website called Islam Is the Problems .com that Icann will approve it? If you then post it here.

5 posted on 10/1/2016, 8:50:03 AM by Democrat_media (One more day till Obama hands over the internet to Muslim controlled UN. we are don)

And then out of nowhere, birtherism!

quote:

To: Sean_Anthony

The founders tried to prevent this.
They put the natural born citizen requirement in there.

Barry Soetoro/Barack Hussein Obama should be proof enough of the wisdom of the founders when they tried to prevent him from being President by requiring someone who could only be a US citizen and nothing else.
Born here of citizen parents.
Naturally a US citizen because there is no other possibility.
One cannot be anything else and also be a natural born citizen.

Obama told us he was born a British Subject.

Who believes Washington, Jefferson, Adams, Jay, Monroe, Madison, etc. would have found him to be a natural born citizen?

Usurpation Day, January 20, 2009, happened with the complete cooperation of both parties.
They want the Constitution changed without the hassle of amending the Constitution.
Confuse people about the clear meaning of a three word phrase and voila, every anchor baby and Winston Churchill is eligible.

The bench was the reason the GOP went along with the fig leaf resolution for McCain that was used by the Democrats as cover for Obama.
Jindal, Rubio, Haley and Cruz were all up and comers and the future of the party and ineligible.

The truth of the Kenyanesian Usurpation will never see the light of day because both parties cooperated in the violation of the Constitution

6 posted on 10/1/2016, 8:52:55 AM by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam , Know Peace)

And the global warming conspiracy!

quote:

To: E. Pluribus Unum

Once the UN gets taxing authority, it becomes the de facto world government.

The Paris Global Warming Bull just might give that to them

13 posted on 10/1/2016, 10:47:06 AM by butlerweave

# ? Oct 1, 2016 19:37

McGlockenshire: Dec 16, 2005; GOLLOCKS!

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quote:

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quote:

To: rockinqsranch; onyx; JustAmy; trisham; RedMDer; musicman; MEG33; deoetdoctrinae; xzins; Lady Jag; ..

Thank you very much, rockinqsranch!! Prayers up.

Btw, we had a very successful net increase of close to $1,000 per month in our New Monthly Donor drive last quarter. We�re now up to $12k per month in monthlies. If we can get that monthly figure up to $15k per month, it would represent more than half of our quarterly goal and these FReepathons could possibly complete in less than 30 days. Wouldn�t that be great?

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38 posted on 10/1/2016, 11:34:07 AM by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!)

Yes, you read that right. JimRob and crew are pulling in $12,000 per month in recurring payments.

# ? Oct 1, 2016 20:22

RagnarokAngel: Oct 5, 2006; Black Magic Extraordinaire

As evidenced by Dale Reed, it's not the most sustainable market though.

# ? Oct 1, 2016 20:29

Axetrain: Sep 14, 2007

Hmm yeah Im sure Washington, Adams and Jefferson would have hated the idea of someone who was born a British subject becoming President.

# ? Oct 1, 2016 21:36

Twelve by Pies: May 4, 2012; Again a very likpatous story

Well you have to admit, the odds that Washington, Jefferson and Adams would approve of a non-white being President have got to be pretty low, regardless of where they were born.

# ? Oct 1, 2016 22:06

SocketWrench: Jul 8, 2012; by Fritz the Horse

McGlockenshire posted:

It's the final quarter of the year, which means Woo hoo!! Our 4th QTR FReepathon is now underway!!

The goal is still $88k.

Yes, you read that right. JimRob and crew are pulling in $12,000 per month in recurring payments.

But that doesn't equal 88 grand. How is freep staying online?
Oh, that's right, most of that money if jimrob fluff to pad his pocket more

# ? Oct 1, 2016 23:50

Redeye Flight: Mar 26, 2010; God, I'm so tired. What the hell did I post last night?

Twelve by Pies posted:

Well you have to admit, the odds that Washington, Jefferson and Adams would approve of a non-white being President have got to be pretty low, regardless of where they were born.

Washington might approve. Jefferson and Adams, more likely not. Madison would probably be chuffed.

# ? Oct 1, 2016 23:51

Islam is the Lite Rock FM: Jul 27, 2007; by exmarx

SocketWrench posted:

But that doesn't equal 88 grand. How is freep staying online?
Oh, that's right, most of that money if jimrob fluff to pad his pocket more

I can at least respect the taking money from the deplorable shitheads that make up Freep.

# ? Oct 1, 2016 23:53

RagnarokAngel: Oct 5, 2006; Black Magic Extraordinaire

Redeye Flight posted:

Washington might approve. Jefferson and Adams, more likely not. Madison would probably be chuffed.

Adams had the highest opinion of black people of like, all the founding fathers.
Whether or not that extended to them being president I agree, not likely.

# ? Oct 1, 2016 23:55

Malachite_Dragon: Mar 31, 2010; Weaving Merry Christmas magic

I'm usually against fleecing old people out of their money but when it happens to Freepers I'm finding it really, really hard to care.

# ? Oct 1, 2016 23:56

WrenP-Complete: Jul 27, 2012

What else might they do with their money?

# ? Oct 1, 2016 23:57

RagnarokAngel: Oct 5, 2006; Black Magic Extraordinaire

WrenP-Complete posted:

What else might they do with their money?

Donate to trump, so this is probably more of a waste.

# ? Oct 2, 2016 00:06

Islam is the Lite Rock FM: Jul 27, 2007; by exmarx

WrenP-Complete posted:

What else might they do with their money?

Not tip their servers?

# ? Oct 2, 2016 00:13

McGlockenshire: Dec 16, 2005; GOLLOCKS!

Let's play the Kit Cat game!

quote:

To: nutmeg

I NEVER saw 20,000 people EVER show up for a Romney rally EVER!!! Trump has this ALL THE TIME !!!! NEVER saw custom painted vehicles with Romney�s name on them, they are EVERYWHERE!!! NEVER saw this kind of ENTHUSIASIM for Romney EVER, EVER!!!!

9 posted on 9/30/2016, 10:01:54 PM by Trump Girl Kit Cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)

quote:

To: jennychase

Jenny is this the line for the rally??? OMG!!! Yep the BITCH is going to win NO DOUBT about it!!!!

287 posted on 10/1/2016, 3:41:58 PM by Trump Girl Kit Cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)

quote:

To: NIKK

NIKK I had to work today I am just now getting to watch the rally the size of this venue was ENORMOUS OMG!!!! Looks like he has it about 2/3 full in Michigan!!!! Old HELLARY looked scared of going down a few steps without a railing OMG!!!! I just LOVE our guy!!! MSM going nuclear on him can�t say I have EVER seen the MSM this BIASED such BASTARDS but NOW ALL THE MASKS ARE OFF the public KNOWS!!! Trumps enthusiam has NOT dwindled in any way it is just AMAZING!!! Another custom painted pick up at this rally also, never in my LONG life have I EVER seen this for ANY CANDIDATE, NEVER EVER!!! These folks spent BIG BUCKS for these driving bill boards and the boats also!!! I just LOVE AMERICANS and their courage God Bless our country and Mr. Trump!!!!

583 posted on 9/30/2016, 7:33:55 PM by Trump Girl Kit Cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)

# ? Oct 2, 2016 00:14

Mantis42: Jul 26, 2010

Prob obvious but the UN doesn't actually tax anyone. It's a diplomatic forum not the NWO.

# ? Oct 2, 2016 01:03

SocketWrench: Jul 8, 2012; by Fritz the Horse

Yeah, well, these are the same psychos that were screaming "death panels!" when universal health care was being pushed because the current system totally wasn't just that.
Or that crazy woman that heads the group "Latinas for Trump" that danced around questions this morning about sexism and why she would vote for him (it involved sheets)

# ? Oct 2, 2016 02:11

This Is the Zodiac: Feb 4, 2003

McGlockenshire posted:

OMG!!!
BITCH
NO DOUBT

You look here, Kit Cat, Gwen Stefani is a national treasure :mad:

# ? Oct 2, 2016 03:05

NachtSieger: Apr 10, 2013

Mantis42 posted:

Prob obvious but the UN doesn't actually tax anyone. It's a diplomatic forum not the NWO.

That's what the UN wants you to think.

# ? Oct 2, 2016 03:06

WrenP-Complete: Jul 27, 2012

Does Freep know about the taxes yet?

# ? Oct 2, 2016 03:10

Shugojin: Sep 6, 2007; THE TAIL THAT BURNS TWICE AS BRIGHT...

I don't know what specifically you're talking about but they believe the Earned Income Tax Credit to be the same thing as welfare so the answer is probably no

# ? Oct 2, 2016 03:42

WrenP-Complete: Jul 27, 2012

The New York Times just released Trump's 1995 income taxes, showing almost a billion in loss, meaning he would not have paid federal income taxes for 18 years. At 9pm on Saturday night. While he was melting down at a rally. Trump thread is flying with Saturday night party goons.

Edit: he also said Clinton probably cheated on her husband.

WrenP-Complete fucked around with this message at 03:48 on Oct 2, 2016

# ? Oct 2, 2016 03:46

Admiral Ray: May 17, 2014; Proud Musk and Dogecoin fanboy

WrenP-Complete posted:

Does Freep know about the taxes yet?

I checked the thread when it had 66 responses and it was boring stuff like calling the NYT a propaganda outlet and asking about the Clinton Foundation.

# ? Oct 2, 2016 03:50

xthetenth: Dec 30, 2012; Mario wasn't sure if this Jeb guy was a good influence on Yoshi.

WrenP-Complete posted:

The New York Times just released Trump's 1995 income taxes, showing almost a billion in loss, meaning he would not have paid federal income taxes for 18 years. At 9pm on Saturday night. While he was melting down at a rally. Trump thread is flying with Saturday night party goons.

Edit: he also said Clinton probably cheated on her husband.

This is too short a post, every bit of it needs to be elaborated on because it all sounds fantastic.

# ? Oct 2, 2016 03:59