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homullus posted:If they can't even do that, that's pretty pathetic. From what I gather the deliberate MCU TV/movie divide really is quite petty but then again the whole "creative council" in charge of the MCU was really lovely in a lot of ways for quite a long time.
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Blazing Ownager posted:That said I really, really hope they don't do an "he's evil" twist with this guy. I love the fact he's a bureaucrat doing his job, and with the same goal as Coulson if different methodology - the betterment of SHIELD. Villains that aren't really villains are the most interesting. I really really hope they stay down the path from "this guy is an evil bureaucrat changing SHIELD there's something slimy at work here!!" to "the new Director is just a huge boy scout goober that happens to be invincible." They did the same thing when SHIELD and NuSHIELD split and I was both legitimately shocked and really sad at the way that guy (I can't even remember his name) died. All this sinister lead up and all he had was the necklace Daisy's mom gave her.  I expect there'll be a throwdown at some point between Mace and someone, maybe Daisy or GR, but overall I hope he stays on as a good guy. I'd like to see a season long arc where both he and the old team learn to meet halfway and start working together. It's equally likely he's the Grand Director and will just go bonkers and start murdering everyone while screaming HAIL HYDRA. Who knows! v  v
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Sep 30, 2016 04:11
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I kind of hope this is their version of Dell Rusk.
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Sep 30, 2016 05:24
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These are some weird ghosts. They can become tangible whenever they want. It'll probably be explained/it probably has to do with the Darkhold changing them, but it's just wierd.
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Sep 30, 2016 23:23
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Aphrodite posted:Talking about the new director as an old classic character is kind of weird when their depiction of him is an Inhuman and in MCU continuity can't possibly have done the thing the character is most known for. AbsolutelySane posted:She has the gauntlets, she's just not using them. If you remember the suiting up scene in the premier, they specifically show her with them on. Robbie is right about her wanting to suffer. 
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Kheldarn posted:These are some weird ghosts. They can become tangible whenever they want. It'll probably be explained/it probably has to do with the Darkhold changing them, but it's just wierd. They pretty clearly seem to be Science Ghosts who are that way because of a Whacky Comic Book Science Whoopsie.
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Oct 1, 2016 00:26
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twistedmentat posted:I could see them mentioning SHIELD is back, but not have any contact with it. Unless the petty power struggles at Marvel have ended and they can stop pretending the TV and Movie aren't in the same universe. Snowglobe of Doom posted:From what I gather the deliberate MCU TV/movie divide really is quite petty but then again the whole "creative council" in charge of the MCU was really lovely in a lot of ways for quite a long time. The TV/Film divide sure as poo poo isn't specific to Marvel. I'll even go so far as to  that nothing from this show will ever make it into the movies. I'm stopping just short of including the Netflix stuff in that toxx but if that happens I'll eat my god damned fruit hat. Film people see TV as such small potatoes that it drags down the overall value of the film. That's slowly starting to change which is why I'm not including netflix but RDJ's salary, for a single film alone, would buy you a couple of full seasons of AoS.That and Coulson being alive totally fucks over the heroic sacrifice in the first Avengers.
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Stabbey_the_Clown posted:They pretty clearly seem to be Science Ghosts who are that way because of a Whacky Comic Book Science Whoopsie. I really hope this isn't like the first season, where they can't do something until the related movie comes out. The longer Fitz has to angrily deny that they're actually ghosts, the dumber he's gonna look.
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Oct 1, 2016 00:43
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Aphrodite posted:Talking about the new director as an old classic character is kind of weird when their depiction of him is an Inhuman and in MCU continuity can't possibly have done the thing the character is most known for. Just because he says he's Inhuman doesn't mean he actually is. It seems like too large of a coincidence that just when they want an enhanced visible leader of SHIELD there just already happens to be a high ranking agent who not only is an Inhuman but also gained totally wholesome powers that didn't mess up his looks. As for the ghosts, I'm figuring they left it vague so that people would just think they're regular people out of phase with reality thanks to a science accident. Big reveal would be that they were ghosts before ever getting stuffed in those boxes.
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Oct 1, 2016 00:57
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sticklefifer posted:This, plus she's all gothed out now, which in TV land is a quick visual cue to let you know she's self-harming. Can't wait for Daisy to get a cat and we'll have the MCU version of the Penitent Puss.
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Someone mentioned Netflix which reminds me that the Luke Cage series is out today! Is anyone watching it?
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Mraagvpeine posted:Someone mentioned Netflix which reminds me that the Luke Cage series is out today! Is anyone watching it? I've watched the first 5 episodes. It's good!
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Mraagvpeine posted:Someone mentioned Netflix which reminds me that the Luke Cage series is out today! Is anyone watching it? I'm about halfway through. It's a little slow, but good.
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:Just because he says he's Inhuman doesn't mean he actually is. It seems like too large of a coincidence that just when they want an enhanced visible leader of SHIELD there just already happens to be a high ranking agent who not only is an Inhuman but also gained totally wholesome powers that didn't mess up his looks. I meant giving him powers at all. It's basically an entirely different character just with the name. Which is fine normally, I don't mind when they do that, but not when you're giving interviews talking about how the new director is a classic comic character. It's like they said "We're going to have Dick Grayson on The Flash" but then it turns out he can shoot lasers from his rear end and never met Batman.
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HUGE SPACEKABLOOIE posted:That and Coulson being alive totally fucks over the heroic sacrifice in the first Avengers.
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HUGE SPACEKABLOOIE posted:That and Coulson being alive totally fucks over the heroic sacrifice in the first Avengers. You mean, Fury's lie from his lying liar face? Nick went into Coulson's room, dipped the Captain America Limited Edition Collectible Cards™ in ketchup because, aside from that being the only thing ketchup is good for, it looked like blood on-camera and he needed a convincing, tangible catalyst for causing the Avengers to Assemble. Because we all know Coulson wasn't just letting those cards lay around loose, what kind of nerd does that?
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Oct 1, 2016 04:19
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sticklefifer posted:People say this, but it's not like they wouldn't have banded together to stop a massive alien threat over Manhattan. There just would've been less motivation for it. Besides, if they explained the process he had to go through in an expository montage, and had some characters remain really really uncomfortable with Coulson hiding it from them and/or coming back to life, it could work pretty well in a film. It could be written, sure. As you said without his death there was less motivation but bringing him back now or in the future just makes it a cheap gimmick. It could work well in a film that isn't part of a multi billion dollar franchise. Besides, at that point the aliens hadn't even shown up yet. Loki hadn't even really done anything to make the audience or the characters go "ok gently caress that guy." And Furys lie was just an extra kick, hell I think he even says as much on screen. It being a lie doesn't matter in the slightest.
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Oct 1, 2016 05:42
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You can have SHIELD in the movies again without even mentioning Coulson.
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Oct 1, 2016 06:09
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Oct 1, 2016 06:43
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Guy Goodbody posted:The longer Fitz has to angrily deny that they're actually ghosts, the dumber he's gonna look. So, you're just going to ignore the boxes full of crazily advanced circuitry? The boxes all the "ghosts" were stored in?
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Circuitry...or runes??  Any sufficiently-advanced magic might look like science!
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Oct 1, 2016 08:00
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I'm not sure I'm following this season. Where did the ghosts come from? who is this new director of shield?
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Oct 1, 2016 09:31
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Oct 1, 2016 09:48
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I am sure it will be ghosts in the end, thanks to some medical professional getting his own movie. But right now, it IS ambiguous, and Fitz does not look bad because of it. 
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Tarquinn posted:I am sure it will be ghosts in the end, thanks to some medical professional getting his own movie. But right now, it IS ambiguous, and Fitz does not look bad because of it. Fitz: "Yes, they are most definitely ghosts. As we have learned from this, ghosts are [technobabble], and Ghost Rider, who is [technobabble], is going to kill them all because he's the only one who can"
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Alexeythegreat posted:Fitz: "Yes, they are most definitely ghosts. As we have learned from this, ghosts are [technobabble], and Ghost Rider, who is [technobabble], is going to kill them all because he's the only one who can" Well, that's how science works, isn't it? It's not like science throws its hands over its head going, 'Welp, I do not know what that is. I am outta here, suckaz!' Tarquinn fucked around with this message at 12:43 on Oct 1, 2016 |
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Guy Goodbody posted:You can have SHIELD in the movies again without even mentioning Coulson. They kinda already did, with the helicarrier and Fury in Age of Ultron. I saw it with someone who hadn't seen Winter Soldier or watched AoS and they had no idea SHIELD wasn't around anymore.
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Isn't there an Inhumans movie set to start filming at some point or did they put the kibosh on that? Seems like Daisy would probably get at least a cameo there. So also, I finished watching Luke Cage and it reminded me why the Netflix series are so much more enjoyable than AoS. They don't have to dribble out stories little bits at a time. I'd say Luke Cage is probably the weakest of the Netflix Marvel series (excepting that lovely second season of Daredevil) but it still made AoS feel cheap in comparison. That said, this season is starting out solid and I hope the later time slot gives them the latitude to do more with AoS. I'm not expecting the gore fest of Jessica Jones but they could pull off what Luke Cage did minus the cussing and loving.
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bloodychill posted:Isn't there an Inhumans movie set to start filming at some point or did they put the kibosh on that? Seems like Daisy would probably get at least a cameo there. That movie has been canned.
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Gorilla Salad posted:So, you're just going to ignore the boxes full of crazily advanced circuitry? The boxes all the "ghosts" were stored in? They're ghosts.
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Oct 1, 2016 13:39
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They're science ghosts which will be defeated by the science angel of vengeance working for the science devil.
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Oct 1, 2016 13:43
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We already have norse science gods. No reason demons can't be similar to Asguardians. Magic to humans but not actually magic as such. Doctor Strange may think it's magic he manipulates but it's actually advanced science techno babble
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bloodychill posted:They're science ghosts which will be defeated by the science angel of vengeance working for the science devil. It would be amazing if Agents of SHIELD established that in the MCU the Christian God is just a scientifically advanced alien. Masonity posted:We already have norse science gods. No reason demons can't be similar to Asguardians. Magic to humans but not actually magic as such. Doctor Strange may think it's magic he manipulates but it's actually advanced science techno babble no its magic
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I mean if it actually exists it would be all science wouldn't it? This is probably getting too philosophical
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BlackJosh posted:I mean if it actually exists it would be all science wouldn't it? This is probably getting too philosophical If you can create theories that can be repeatably tested and observed, then magic can totally be a science.
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flosofl posted:If you can create theories that can be repeatably tested and observed, then magic can totally be a science. I feel like it's science up until you have to figure out what parts per million goat blood you need for your summoning circle. Then it hits that this is wierd and gross and not really science at all. Which I hope is the realization that Fitz comes to mid season.
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frgildan posted:I feel like it's science up until you have to figure out what parts per million goat blood you need for your summoning circle. Then it hits that this is wierd and gross and not really science at all. Which I hope is the realization that Fitz comes to mid season. Nah, there can totally be science behind the quantities of goat blood for summoning circles.
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frgildan posted:I feel like it's science up until you have to figure out what parts per million goat blood you need for your summoning circle. Then it hits that this is wierd and gross and not really science at all. Which I hope is the realization that Fitz comes to mid season. Science is a method. If you theorize how much goat blood you need and then test your theory to find the exact amount, you are doing science. The only thing that makes something capital M Magic is the writers saying that what's happening is Magic. sunday at work fucked around with this message at 17:21 on Oct 1, 2016 |
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Alexeythegreat posted:That movie has been canned. Yeah, supposedly Perlmutter was the one pushing for an Inhumans movie because he has a huge bug up his rear end about making comics for characters Marvel doesn't have the rights to. When Disney stepped in and kicked him out of everything to do with the movies, Feige quietly took Inhumans off the schedule.
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