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eightpole posted:If that happens I can still be a smug european talking poo poo about americans and their insane president for 4 years so really its a win-win A shitpost from anyone in your country is grounds for drone strikes from Trump.
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I had a bad night so reading that things are continuing to finally matter helps a lot.
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I'm pretty sure the Assange thing at this point really is the Bernie comments. It's hilarious because CNN is trying so so hard to make this a slap fight between Bernie and Clinton and Bernie just straight up went, "Yeah there's a lot of people in basements who are baristas struggling to get by, that's why we want to get Clinton elected!" and that pretty much shut it down. They tried four or five times but the response from Bernie was a giant "meh."
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https://twitter.com/ThisWeekABC/status/782567818608779264?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw So, uh, I guess this is the spin they're going with. Edit: https://twitter.com/samsteinhp/status/782566904489619456
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Cthulhumatic posted:So how worried should we be about Wikileaks? Not at all, right? As a rule, you should never be worried about Wikileaks.
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Cthulhumatic posted:So how worried should we be about Wikileaks? Not at all, right? If they had anything they would've open-fired by now. They've pulled this stunt two or three times already with absolutely no results. Assange just likes it when people talk about it because it makes him feel relevant. I mean at this point if something did come from it I wouldn't be all that surprised because this loving election but I really really doubt it's anything to worry about.
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Nobody seems to have pointed out that while Trump lost almost a billion dollars, he really only lost almost a billion 1995 dollars. Adjusted for inflation, it's closer to $1.5B 2016 dollars.
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Cthulhumatic posted:So how worried should we be about Wikileaks? Not at all, right? 
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Literally Elvis posted:Nobody seems to have pointed out that while Trump lost almost a billion dollars, he really only lost almost a billion 1995 dollars. At a certain point the number just doesn't matter.
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Bushiz posted:Alright let's be real. It ironically won't be Hilldawg that kills him, but the hacker that will break into Twitter's code to change everything he posts to "I'm a loving loser". Thousands of Trump posts will ensue where people retweet him and he'll stay up for several days in a maniac fit trying to correct himself, only for it to come out the same insult towards his glorious self that will drive him into a huffing fit and then heart attack in his bed. Crabtree fucked around with this message at 14:21 on Oct 2, 2016 |
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Wow, Trump even further sold the wheeze by threatening to sue the NYT over publishing the story! Genius!
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lozzle posted:As a rule, you should never be worried about Wikileaks. Unless you're a woman in the same building.
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DaveWoo posted:https://twitter.com/ThisWeekABC/status/782567818608779264?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw Rudy Giuliani is consistently the most vile and incompetent member of Trump's idiot brigade. Also, considering the Trump Organization has no investors, Giuliani is essentially arguing that Trump would be violating his fiduciary duty to himself. 
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DaveWoo posted:https://twitter.com/ThisWeekABC/status/782567818608779264?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw Taxes are pure evil to their base, so trying to turn this around for them might work, but only because they are idiots.
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Geostomp posted:Taxes are pure evil to their base, so trying to turn this around for them might work, but only because they are idiots. As someone else posted, though, he could lose that 5% swing segment that builds his highline.
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botany posted:gone, copy tweets please copying tweets is a pain in the butt
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Geostomp posted:Taxes are pure evil to their base, so trying to turn this around for them might work, but only because they are idiots. I'm not so sure about that. If the media and Hillary's campaign can hit him hard enough, reminding people that you and your family pay taxes every single year, but Trump hasn't for two decades has potential. Plus Christie and Giuliani are morons, so I don't think they can paper over this themselves. Katy Tur and NBC were not kind to Trump this morning.
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Unfortunately for them, not everyone shares their "taxes are evil" viewpoint and most people see Trump's actions for the fraud that it is. I'm becoming increasingly concerned at how stupid the rest of this country is.
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Re: wikileaks - the way I see it (other than they've done this 4-5 times already), if you really had a bombshell you would not give advance warning. You'd keep it secret up to the reveal to maximise damage and minimise preparation time for the other side. It's like those doomsday cults that predict the world will end on day x, then when that day comes and goes, predict day y, and repeat forever... oh.
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A lot of people think taxes are evil. But people hate unfairness even more than they hate taxes.
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I like to dip my toes into the more illiterate parts of Reddit whenever a Trump scandal breaks. A lot of his acolytes are thoroughly convinced that he will be able to destroy the New York Times over this like Hulk Hogan and Peter Thiel destroyed Gawker. They apparently think tax returns are more protected than bona fide classified material since at least some of them are aware that New York Times v. United States is a thing and think he'll win anyways.
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CNN: "We are in day six of the meltdown" I don't know if it's a Hillary surrogate but laffo
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This is literally the longform version of the corncob. Holy poo poo.
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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/673884271954776064 The @washingtonpost loses money (a deduction) and gives owner @JeffBezos power to screw public on low taxation of @Amazon! Big tax shelter edit: 
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USPOL Oct: The @washingtonpost loses money (a deduction) and gives owner @JeffBezos power to screw public on low taxation of @Amazon! Big tax shelter
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Shifty Pony posted:A lot of people think taxes are evil. Yep, there's a reason why "close the loopholes" gets a lot of traction.
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Yes, no one ever claimed that he broke the law with this. This is perfectly legal and theoretically there isn't a problem in getting the best deal for yourself. The thing everyone hates is the fact that this is possible. Basically this is saying that a rich person can gamble away tons of money and destroy countless jobs. But the government pays for it because he would feel bad otherwise. The US tax code is broken, but Donald wants to lower even more taxes which only affect people like himself. Hillary will probably argue along those lines. His intentions could not be clearer if he proposed a special exception on taxes for anyone who is directly related to himself.
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so 960 million in 1995 is about 1.5 billion today. So he claimed a loss of 1.5 billion in one year? How exactly? The only thing I can think of is that he's been playing this game for decades. Claim a massive loss one year that deferred income for other years, then defer those losses during that time period until he can save them all up an claim them all in one year. Never pay a cent in tax.
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Shifty Pony posted:A lot of people think taxes are evil. People hate unfairness that they feel isn't personally benefiting them. They don't care about unfairness as a general concept.
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In case you didn't already think Mike Pence was a scumbag, he is refusing to pardon a wrongfully convicted man out of respect for the "judicial process." Just in time for the debate, too.
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Aside from him being terrible at business and losing a billion dollars, what did he do that was wrong? If you have a loss you don't pay taxes because taxes are on profits. Carrying it forward is exceedingly fair since those future profits are still just the business digging itself out of its hole.
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Cimber posted:so 960 million in 1995 is about 1.5 billion today. The early 90s were very bad economically.
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Cimber posted:so 960 million in 1995 is about 1.5 billion today. No. He ist really just that incompetent. That year a casino went belly up and the housing prices shifted against him. Didn't someone say that his estimated net wealth fell 600 million this year for similar reasons?
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cant cook creole bream posted:No. He ist really just that incompetent. That year a casino went belly up and the housing prices shifted against him. I heard 800 million. e: Yep, it's 800 million.
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EngineerJoe posted:Aside from him being terrible at business and losing a billion dollars, what did he do that was wrong? If you have a loss you don't pay taxes because taxes are on profits. Carrying it forward is exceedingly fair since those future profits are still just the business digging itself out of its hole. It's the equivalent of the Colts tanking for a year so they could get a shiny new QB for cheap. Except in this analogy the "damage to the brand" would make it so his salary didn't impact their cap for the next few years.
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I really think Trump's next debate performance is going to be loving WILD. He is lost in the weeds after this last week and all of the message discipline that his campaign had been improving upon has vanished into the wind. Now, somehow, Trump's managers need to regain control and start practicing for the next debate. Everyone knows exactly what his debate goals are: appears Presidential, stick to the topics that people perceive him as being strong on (Trade, immigration), and land some body blows on Clinton with practiced attacks. But he demonstrated last week that he was unable to be trained into fulfilling those goals - how the hell could he possibly do it now? Imagine trying to sit Trump down in a room and practicing for the next debate. It looks like from his rallies that he has gone totally rogue. The Clinton campaign is probably already practicing because that's how they do it.
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Cimber posted:so 960 million in 1995 is about 1.5 billion today. It was his reward for crashing a casino. He lost a billion dollars by ruining a loving casino. For reference, if you own a casino it might as well be a literal money fountain for how hard it is to gently caress up. Trump ran one into the ground and as a reward he gets to not pay taxes for 20 years. Also, since you're not the first person to bring it up...it's probably not even that great of a deal anyways due to inflation. That one billion in tax credit doesn't go as far as one billion in cash you could have invested 20 years ago. 
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