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There was also the later stand alone program: Kai's Power Goo.
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Lowen SoDium posted:There was also the later stand alone program: Kai's Power Goo.
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Oct 1, 2016 18:09
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FilthyImp posted:Power Goo was the poo poo in the mid 90s. You can morph things and poo poo! Mostly poo poo.
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Oct 1, 2016 18:13
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KozmoNaut posted:Mostly poo poo. This is what game copiers looked like in 1984.  This is what game copiers looked like in the mid-90s. 
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Mak0rz posted:
I'll concede that InDesign isn't too bad. I think Photoshop is OK, but I suspect that's only because I've used every version since the Win98 days, so I got to learn a simple version and then get used to the new stuff in small increments. Illustrator is ... a thing. I mean, I can and have used it productively, but it feels like it's designed by aliens or Germans or some other group that just doesn't think the same way I do. Things I want in a vector drawing program: Easy ways to rotate, do boolean operations on, mirror, and otherwise operate on vector shapes, in an interface that makes it obvious what I'm working on and what things belong together how, perhaps with a trivial way of picking new fill and line colors. Things from that list that feel like a top priority in Illustrator: (OK, picking colors is easy enough if you've got a decent preset of them loaded up. God knows why they don't make it trivial and obvious how to grab one from a color picker, though.) Computer viking has a new favorite as of 18:31 on Oct 1, 2016 |
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Oct 1, 2016 18:28
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The Kins posted:This is what game copiers looked like in 1984.
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I wanted to post "This is what game copiers looked like in 1996" but I could find a good picture of a first-gen consumer CD burner. 
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The Kins posted:I wanted to post "This is what game copiers looked like in 1996" but I could find a good picture of a first-gen consumer CD burner. This is what my dad had (he was a game copying enthusiast going way back), but it was a bit later on I think: 
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I've been racking my brain lately, trying to figure out a couple of old games I played at a friend's house when I was a kid. It would have been around the early 90s, and I remember we played a lot of Golden Axe, so he E: It was probably a Master System, based on the one game I have found now. My issue is that I have a vague recollection of some other games we played, but I just haven't been able to identify them. For one of the games, I remember something about beating a boss, and the dungeon/castle collapsing afterwards. I know that's a pretty common trope. I also remember something about the player character being able to turn into a bird and some other things, and that touching water as a bird would kill you. The boss dungeon thing and turning into a bird may have been two different games, I don't remember. It's been ~25 years, after all. E2: It may have been Wonder Boy 2 or Wonder Boy 3, but I'm not 100% sure, even after having watched some gameplay videos. Probably WB3, if I had to hazard a guess. E: I think I've found the game. It was Transbot for the Master System: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kzmHCYnSQg Does any of that ring a bell for any of you? As I said, I'm fairly sure we played on a Sega Mega Drive, but not 100% certain. E3: Probably wasn't a Mega Drive, but a Master System, or possibly both. E4: Well, it's sort of amazing how much you can actually sort of work out for yourself, once you start asking people about it 
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Oct 1, 2016 21:33
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Data Graham posted:If GIMP still doesn't have that then it means it basically hasn't made any progress since I last gave up on it around 1998. it sucks poo poo
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Oct 1, 2016 22:00
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KozmoNaut posted:As I said, I'm fairly sure we played on a Sega Mega Drive, but not 100% certain. To muddy the waters further for you, the Mega Drive is backwards compatible with the Master System via the Power Base Converter. You could've been playing both Mega Drive and Master System games on the same console. Seeing as how you're not calling it the Genesis, I guess that's pretty likely.
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azurite posted:To muddy the waters further for you, the Mega Drive is backwards compatible with the Master System via the Power Base Converter. You could've been playing both Mega Drive and Master System games on the same console. Seeing as how you're not calling it the Genesis, I guess that's pretty likely. That just opens whole new dimensions of "poo poo, I didn't know you could do that" 
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I got a third party adapter from Hong Kong because the official one that fit the Genesis model 2 was ridiculously expensive. It works pretty well.
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Oct 1, 2016 22:49
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Humbug Scoolbus posted:Kai's Power Tools had an extremely iconoclastic UI for a commercial program. It was terrible and there were so many complaints from the paying user base they reverted it to a more useable by non-developer endusers.   
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Oct 1, 2016 23:31
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 That's worse than Kid Pix.
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Oct 1, 2016 23:47
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Ah, the good ole days, where "artistic" and hard-to-use esoteric UIs won out over pragmatic design. If the space had texture and art, it could never be considered "wasted". See also, basically every 90s RTS and RPG game.
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Admittedly some of those games had the excuse that they could only render their software 3D in a tiny viewport, and after adding the rest of the UI they still had a lot of empty space to fill.
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I rest my case.
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Computer viking posted:I'll concede that InDesign isn't too bad. I think Photoshop is OK, but I suspect that's only because I've used every version since the Win98 days, so I got to learn a simple version and then get used to the new stuff in small increments. Illustrator is ... a thing. I mean, I can and have used it productively, but it feels like it's designed by aliens or Germans or some other group that just doesn't think the same way I do. Try Flexisign. Been using it forever for basic sign design. Ive always thought of it as a streamlined illustrator for the industry, especially since adobes UI has become so obtuse.
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Last Chance posted:This is what my dad had (he was a game copying enthusiast going way back), but it was a bit later on I think: I had one in 2002 or '03. It was Iomega's attempt to regain market share because no one was using Zip, or any other, kinds of discs.
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Bryce 3D also comes to mind for over processed interfaces of the 90's. And this glossy look predates Apple's redo with OSX.   It really was the ultimate in obtuse as things were not exactly intuitive. They tried very hard to make it so with icons that match the action but then threw you off with mystery buttons like those spheres under the big arrows all have something to do with different render qualities. Of course at the time 3D rendering programs were highly complex vertex by vertex modelling so this made creating basic scenes very quick and easy in comparison.
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This is what all of Apple's "skeuomorphic" interfaces look like to me. Thank god that fad is over.
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Apple's stuff is pretty constrained in comparison. And it certainly got a bit weird as they started using the brushed metal look for "pro" apps to match the plastic vs metal laptops styling of the time. It then looked so nice that it was adopted across the whole interface in Tiger. Jobs got really in love with the leather on his Italian couches and insisted that it be applied to the calendar apps and subsequently other skeudomorphic elements like the felt in the Games app. Ives pretty much hated the use of it and was quick to get rid of it when Jobs died.
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WebDog posted:Ives pretty much hated the use of it and was quick to get rid of it when Jobs died. It stuck around after Jobs died until Forstall was given the boot. And it was the leather on his airplane seats lol.
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And then they overcorrected by making a "button" into just a blue text label with no borders. It's possible to take Tufte too seriously
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Oct 3, 2016 02:53
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This reminds me of this game (and other poo poo) disc I used to have. Maybe you can all help me! It contained a whole bunch of interactive stuff, but I only remember three things:
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Oct 3, 2016 03:32
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Mak0rz posted:This reminds me of this game (and other poo poo) disc I used to have. Maybe you can all help me! Sounds like the Thinkin' Things series https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCFNUc10Vu8 I played the hell out of this as a kid pretty soft girl has a new favorite as of 04:01 on Oct 3, 2016 |
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Oct 3, 2016 03:58
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pretty soft girl posted:Sounds like the Thinkin' Things series That's the one! I forgot about the fripple house game. I loved that one.
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Mak0rz posted:[*]A game where you are given an image that has been distorted in a number of ways. You have a list of little alien dudes that each distort (or rotate/flip) the image in their own ways. The goal of the game was to use the right aliens in the right order on an untouched image to make it look like the one given to you. Did you grow up to be an optometrist?
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HUGE SPACEKABLOOIE posted:
Hahahahaha. This is the 90's version of ripping off that "REMOVING THIS IS ILLEGAL" tag from your mattress. I used to unplug my computer immediately.
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Rough Lobster posted:Hahahahaha. This is the 90's version of ripping off that "REMOVING THIS IS ILLEGAL" tag from your mattress. I used to unplug my computer immediately. The what now tag?
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Jerry Cotton posted:The what now tag? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAaoHX9KiWY
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I used to work with a dude like that only he had blonde hair. We called him Subjugator. Something something the guy who's driving as well.
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I just spent 5 minutes trying to plug a second IDE cable into this Pentium II motherboard. I kept making sure the cable was the right way around, and yes the plastic around the socket on the motherboard does have the notch in one side that lines up with the cable. I forgot about the thing where they started not having one pin in the socket and cable though  I guess now I should sort my ribbon cable collection into with-that-pin and without-that-pin?
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Last Chance posted:This is what my dad had (he was a game copying enthusiast going way back), but it was a bit later on I think: I had a Iomega Zip Drive at some point. It was terrible.
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Oct 5, 2016 02:17
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Everyone who owned a Zip Drive posted:I had a Iomega Zip Drive at some point. It was terrible.
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Gonz posted:I had a Iomega Zip Drive at some point. It was terrible. I got one for free, I thought it was great because I didn't have a CD burner yet. I spent $100 on 10 disks for it, but it killed 3 of them with click of death so I sold the other 7 on eBay for a pretty big loss. The class action lawsuit settlement of a few  off my next iomega purchase failed to entice me to ever buy another product they made.
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Gonz posted:I had a Iomega Zip Drive at some point. It was terrible. I dunno, they were pretty decCLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK*********GRRRRRRRRRRRR******CHUNK.
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If you thought Zip drives were lovely, you'll love JAZ drives. Ten times as expensive per cartridge and ten times more delicate. It'll be great!
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Buttcoin purse posted:I just spent 5 minutes trying to plug a second IDE cable into this Pentium II motherboard. I kept making sure the cable was the right way around, and yes the plastic around the socket on the motherboard does have the notch in one side that lines up with the cable. I forgot about the thing where they started not having one pin in the socket and cable though You can just punch a hole in the connector, lol. I did that with one of mine a few weeks ago.
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