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I got curious about what had been written on the alt right, so I tried looking on Google scholar... But then my browser crashed. 
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WrenP-Complete posted:Is anyone friends with the big Yud on Facebook? I'm curious if there's been a reaction from that community. I'm friends with a friend of his so I could ask. His father and I have a number of mutual friends and at least they haven't talked about it. Though they also don't talk about him much in general, except when there was talk of HPMOR being nominated for a Hugo.
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eschaton posted:His father and I have a number of mutual friends and at least they haven't talked about it. Though they also don't talk about him much in general, except when there was talk of HPMOR being nominated for a Hugo. I imagine there's some friction over his outspoken atheism. Aren't they orthodox Jews?
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Oct 2, 2016 02:40
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A White Guy posted:The idea is that "No, you see, we're not racists, the LIEBERALS are the real racists!" I'm kind of getting the impression that a lot of people haven't really bothered to learn the actual definitions of words, and just sort of form their own associations on them. So in this case, "racist" turns out to be something like "says Bad People things about race," rather than "displays racial prejudice" or whatever other, more sane definition normal people use. That, and I think it's a side effect of the "colorblind" approach to race relations: if you acknowledge race at all, that makes you racist and you lose the game. I know it was pretty heavily implicit when I was a kid, before people started realizing that trying to ignore the problem did not, in fact, make it go away. Probably a bit of both; my impression of a lot of alt-right types is that they're less interested in actually understanding problems than in finding an "I Win" button for arguments. (Granted, that's not solely their province, and is part of why parts of tumblr also live in Crazy rear end in a top hat Land.)
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GunnerJ posted:I have already accepted that there's little point to insisting on this distinction, but then I can't help but wonder what the point of describing something in terms of its conceptual opposite was to begin with. It fair warms my heart to see someone gooning that deeply on last year's topic. Certainly a pleasant change from cvck cvck cvck cvck CVCK lol frog meme. Yeah, the review is annoyingly inexact for those of us who have nerded on this one to the point of needing a molecular laser to Julienne the hairs in question, and particularly the bit where it puts EY forward as the basilisk's proposer or proponent. But I did like how it put EY as a proponent of the urge to rightness that leads to Moldbuggian idiocy.
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Oct 2, 2016 09:06
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divabot posted:It fair warms my heart to see someone gooning that deeply on last year's topic. Certainly a pleasant change from cvck cvck cvck cvck CVCK lol frog meme. I don't dislike the review overall either. I think it's mostly just that a significant chunk of my job has consisted of trying to explain the difference between various Protestant sects in the early modern period to 18-22 year olds only to read (in tests, papers, etc.) about "the church" as the sole source of religious authority in any given region. Which isn't what the review's doing at all but this theology stuff's become a bit of a thing for me because of that.
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Oct 2, 2016 12:12
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My favorite Alt-Right has a new podcast! listen to him describe his love of robert heinlein's Starship Troopers!  https://soundcloud.com/user-573589163/because-we-live-here-history-and-moral-philosophy or not. whatever BornAPoorBlkChild has a new favorite as of 16:54 on Oct 2, 2016 |
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Oct 2, 2016 16:42
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What on earth did History and Philosophy do to these people that they feel the need to so thoroughly abuse and debase them as both words and concepts? Does the resentment of arts and humanities run so deep that entire fields of academia must be ground underfoot in their interminable, petty and bloody minded culture war?
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Oct 2, 2016 17:00
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TomViolence posted:What on earth did History and Philosophy do to these people that they feel the need to so thoroughly abuse and debase them as both words and concepts? Made them feel less smart? That's been my impression of Ayn Rand, at least.
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Hey just so y'all know, apparently the word filters were removed around the time GBS came back, so you can say "cuck" again if you want. Just a quick PSA from your old pal Scratch-O. E: Not to say I'm endorsing it or anything, just saying that it's possible again. Quote some weirdo alt-righters without fear of censorship. You're free, DE thread! Fly free! Scratch-O has a new favorite as of 17:08 on Oct 2, 2016 |
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Oct 2, 2016 17:05
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Keep it brvtal and say cvck, that's my take.
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TomViolence posted:What on earth did History and Philosophy do to these people that they feel the need to so thoroughly abuse and debase them as both words and concepts? Does the resentment of arts and humanities run so deep that entire fields of academia must be ground underfoot in their interminable, petty and bloody minded culture war? Steven Pinker convinced them that the humanities are all regressive leftists attempting to prove Marx right at all times
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Oct 2, 2016 18:29
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Race Realists posted:My favorite Alt-Right has a new podcast! listen to him describe his love of robert heinlein's Starship Troopers! Wanna click this, but I also really don't wanna. Because when I was a teenager I was convinced Starship Troopers was a Great Work, but now... and as interpreted by at-righters...  I have this whole shameful section of my sci-fi library I kinda want to just throw in the trash, because in retrospect what the hell was I thinking. Jerry Pournelle is top billing, as well as some of his collaborations with Niven (and Flynn). But some Heinlein is right up there.
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Oct 2, 2016 19:23
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Was it Heinlein who wrote a whole lot about sexy 13 year olds in relationships with grandpas or was that one of his many awful contemporaries?
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Improbable Lobster posted:Was it Heinlein who wrote a whole lot about sexy 13 year olds in relationships with grandpas or was that one of his many awful contemporaries? It was Heinlein, and that always brings up the uncomfortable fact that he was much harder to pin down to some stupid dogma than people who want to claim him for their side want him to have been.
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Oct 2, 2016 20:17
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Don't try to pin him down as an anarchist or a libertarian or a socialist. Easier to just call him a Weird-o and be done with it.
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Oct 2, 2016 20:28
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Oct 2, 2016 20:52
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uber_stoat posted:Easier to just call him a Weird-o and be done with it. Weirdo, yes, but also a sexist creep but I suppose that came with the times. On the other hand any author that can go from libertarians on the moon to military service meaning citizenship to the oldest man ever that gathers a harem and then uses time travel to go back and have sex with his own mom (oh and the time travel mechanism exists only because other characters from another entirely unrelated book figured out that they were in a fictional universe and just switched fictions) is going to be hard to pin down.
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Oct 2, 2016 20:53
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Oct 2, 2016 21:01
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As we all know, the true nazis are people who don't like lovely joke flyers at cons https://twitter.com/St_Rev/status/634974154236653568 https://twitter.com/St_Rev/status/634974416250793984?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
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Oct 2, 2016 21:02
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https://twitter.com/St_Rev/status/782094364117987328 Lmao- https://twitter.com/GabrielDuquette/status/781937955183230976
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Oct 2, 2016 21:09
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i don't think rev is a nazi, i think he's just a profoundly sad and small man who is incapable of enjoying anything in life
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I Killed GBS posted:i don't think rev is a nazi, i think he's just a profoundly sad and small man who is incapable of enjoying anything in life Same. In a way, being a nazi would require more intellectual honesty than I think either Rev or Scott have. They don't like non far-right spaces and places at all, but they don't want to have to admit that they're kinda far-right because they still have some vague sense nazis are bad, even if they get angry when prog sjw regressive leftists say the same thing.
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Oct 2, 2016 21:12
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McGlockenshire posted:Weirdo, yes, but also a sexist creep but I suppose that came with the times. Don't forget the adventures of Martian hippie Jesus.
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Oct 2, 2016 21:17
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Oct 2, 2016 21:40
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i'm utterly shocked that the neonazis have decided to attack the homosexual jewish man
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Oct 2, 2016 21:48
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I don't want Milo to be killed by neo-nazis, but I can't say I'm not taking a mild amount of pleasure in a dude who's been playing with fire for years getting burned
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Oct 2, 2016 21:50
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This seems like a good use of both parties' time and resources.
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Oct 2, 2016 22:16
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The alt-right seems to be imploding in a fiery shitstorm akin to those oft enjoyed by the far left. Maybe we really do have more in common than divides us.
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Oct 2, 2016 22:24
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I'm the photoshopped cartoon nose
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Oct 2, 2016 23:49
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The Vosgian Beast posted:Steven Pinker convinced them that the humanities are all regressive leftists attempting to prove Marx right at all times Please tell me there's source material for this. I heard him give a lecture once and he had smarmy asshat written on his soul.
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Oct 2, 2016 23:58
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Hilario Baldness posted:Please tell me there's source material for this. I heard him give a lecture once and he had smarmy asshat written on his soul. Well he thinks that humanistic inquiry and the social sciences are unrigorous, as articulated in his book The Blank Slate. He on the other hand is a great methodological scientist doing neuroscience with his psychology Ph.D. and making book-length arguments about how the enlightenment was a unified movement that made like an international superteam with English, Scottish, and French philosophers joining together like voltron to kill superstition. I'd still take him over the usual hordes of small-dicked boobs we talk about here who think that the enlightenment was a jewish conspiracy to make white women not want to sleep with them or whatever.
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Hilario Baldness posted:Please tell me there's source material for this. I heard him give a lecture once and he had smarmy asshat written on his soul. I don't have anything on that specifically, but Pinker's work on violence is incredibly terrible even by the low standards of people who consider themselves "public intellectuals." In his book Better Angels of Our Nature, he double-counts death tolls from archaeological sites because he doesn't realize he's using the same sites twice, uses ludicrously inflated statistics to determine medieval murder rates, thinks that the fake torture devices invented in the 18th/19th century are real medieval artifacts, and in general is terrible at just about every aspect of historical research and analysis. Historians HATE him! One weird trick to make up complete bullshit to sell a bunch of books!
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Grenrow posted:I don't have anything on that specifically, but Pinker's work on violence is incredibly terrible even by the low standards of people who consider themselves "public intellectuals." In his book Better Angels of Our Nature, he double-counts death tolls from archaeological sites because he doesn't realize he's using the same sites twice, uses ludicrously inflated statistics to determine medieval murder rates, thinks that the fake torture devices invented in the 18th/19th century are real medieval artifacts, and in general is terrible at just about every aspect of historical research and analysis. The extra funny thing is that Scott cited Better Angels of Our Nature to criticize Moldbug's everything-has-been-getting-worse-over-the-past-few-centuries narrative. (Pinker's view is probably closer to the truth than Moldbug's, but still.)
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The Vosgian Beast posted:Same. Scott is just kinda profoundly misguided and the only reason I even know anything about Rev is because of how hard he really wants "FREAKS CREATE PROGS OCCUPY" to become a meme for some reason and how hilarious that is
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Who is Gabriel Duquette? Just another grey tribe robot fucker?
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ate all the Oreos posted:Also I don't remember anyone in this thread ever even hinting or joking about doxing rev, did that actually happen? I'm sure someone posted "wait, who's this rear end in a top hat" at some point, which I guess someone who's devoted their life to being stupid and disingenuous full-time could interpret as a suggestion to dox him. Now, do we know anyone like that?
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ate all the Oreos posted:Also I don't remember anyone in this thread ever even hinting or joking about doxing rev, did that actually happen? It's a Twitter dork that cares about our dying forum crackin wise on him. He don't exactly live in reality.
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ate all the Oreos posted:Also I don't remember anyone in this thread ever even hinting or joking about doxing rev, did that actually happen? On the off-chance this is like the TvTropes thread and there's some mentally unbalanced goon considering this: Jesus Christ, do not doxx St_Rev what is even wrong with you? Sax Solo posted:Who is Gabriel Duquette? Just another grey tribe robot fucker? He's an ex-indie rock dude who left the world of rock music for the world of thought. Unfortunately his version of thought is a cargo cult version built out of silicon valley buzzwords and LW jargon https://twitter.com/GabrielDuquette/status/721445668259241984 https://twitter.com/GabrielDuquette/status/721446120740810752 https://twitter.com/GabrielDuquette/status/782625118270984192
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