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The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > Debate & Discussion > Freep: the most despicable, disgusting and idiotic post I have ever read
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Mors Rattus
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McGlockenshire
Dec 16, 2005

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From The Time I Found Donald Trump’s Tax Records in My Mailbox posted by freeper justlurking.

The article is by the reporter that received Trump's 1995 tax return in her mailbox. It's an interesting read if you haven't read the actual tax article.

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I think Trump actually sent his tax returns to the NY Times.

See my analysis here: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3475916/posts

Short version: I don't think Trump's former accountant would have validated the authenticity of the returns without Trump's permission.

And, the reporter received the envelope about two weeks after the NY Times executive editor said he would risk jail to publish Trump's returns.

1 posted on 10/2/2016, 1:42:08 PM by justlurking

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To: justlurking

The democrats are focusing on the only issue no one cares about


3 posted on 10/2/2016, 1:45:51 PM by Mr. K (< a href="https://imgflip.com/i/1adpjl">< img src="https://i.imgflip.com/1adpjl.jpg" title="made at im)
Fact check: In polls taken after the debate, Trump's taxes were literally the #1 concern.

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To: justlurking

Over 50% of the people in this country haven’t got a clue what tax returns are. They’ve never paid taxes. I don’t know what the big deal is.


4 posted on 10/2/2016, 1:53:05 PM by FlingWingFlyer (Forget the media's "endorsements" of Clintoon. They are unfit to be Americans. Vote Trump!)

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To: justlurking

They’re outright lying.

Probably someone in Obama’s IRS passed it to them - illegally.

“Finding an envelope in the mailbox, right in the middle of an election” is just a cover.

Fortunately for us, the cover-up is always worse than the crime. Slimes and their so-called credibility are going down big-time.


5 posted on 10/2/2016, 1:53:48 PM by canuck_conservative

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To: justlurking

The author is lying and your analysis makes no sense.


6 posted on 10/2/2016, 1:54:36 PM by Fungi (Beer, you like beer? Enjoy your beer and all the fungi that come with it,)

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To: justlurking

If IRS leaked them, like they did Romney’s, that should be an interesting series of stories. If anyone is interested.

If Clintons shelter most of their income in a fraudulent foundation, that might also be an interesting series of stories, if anyone was interested.


7 posted on 10/2/2016, 1:56:25 PM by marron
No, the IRS did not leak Romney's tax returns. Their "evidence" of this is Harry Reid speculating about Romney not paying income tax for the prior decade.

Meanwhile, freep continues to completely fail at understanding Donald Trump.

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To: justlurking

I too think that Trump himself sent this to the NYT, and it is hilarious as well. Nothing illegal is going on here and notice the return address is Trumps address...Bless him he is always 6 steps ahead of the media pack.


10 posted on 10/2/2016, 1:59:13 PM by kerry431

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To: marron

The Clinton Foundation is tax EXEMPT and running with a 94% overhead.

The 6% pays for diluted AIDS drugs for Africans.

(glass houses)


14 posted on 10/2/2016, 2:05:07 PM by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
Politifact says: demonstrably wrong and Charity Navigator says that the actual overhead amount is roughly 14%, not 94%.

Meanwhile, freeper CARTOUCHE has either a persecution complex or a persecution fantasy, I'm not sure.

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To: comebacknewt

If I were him, I would spin it as, “if the political elite can do this to me with all my resources, just think what they are capable of doing to you”.

Great point. So the powers don’t like what I post on the FR site. Let’s get that bastard and teach him a lesson they might say. Only problem is that my tax return would be so mundane it wouldn’t have any meaning except to quantify me with millions of other middle class retirees with part time jobs.


16 posted on 10/2/2016, 2:08:08 PM by CARTOUCHE (Madame Clinton, have you no grace, no compassion, no friends?)

I love it when they attack each other. Original formatting in the inner.

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To: Sontagged

To suggest Trump mailed these forms to the NYT himself is idiotic; Lois Lerner was a Bush appointee Uniparty stooge that would do either Clintons or Bushbots’ bidding.

I’m sort of freaked out that a FReeper could post such idiocy as the other FReeper posted...

OK, let's start with your idiocy.

The federal IRS doesn't have copies of Trump's state income tax returns.

The only documentation provided with an individual return are the various permutations of W-2 and 1099 forms that show state or local income taxes withheld -- and that's only if you don't file electronically.

Who besides Trump would have state income tax returns from three different states? These were all mailed together -- how did the same person collect this information from three different sources?

It was obviously someone with access to all of Trump's returns. If it was someone on Trump's staff, why would they send a 1995 return, if they had access to the latest filings?

And why did they only send the state returns, leaving out the federal return?

None of this makes any sense, unless someone is setting up the NY Times, after an editor admitted he would risk jail time to publish Trump's returns.

Perhaps you remember how Trump used to grant phone interviews, pretending to be his own publicist. One was resurrected recently, after it was "obtained" by the Washington Post.

The person that conducted the interview said that she wrote an article about it, and subsequently destroyed the tape. No one else would have had the recording -- except for Trump. Trump got a lot of free publicity out of it, at a crucial time during the primaries. And, the Post looked like a bunch of idiots when they got punked.

I don't know what Trump's long game might now be, but I suspect we'll find out soon.

47 posted on 10/2/2016, 5:23:57 PM by justlurking

Are you a former NeverTrumper? Not interested in replying here.

49 posted on 10/2/2016, 5:26:42 PM by Sontagged (Woe to you when all men shall speak well of you...)

That thread also contains a link to another which is boring except for this one post.

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To: RoosterRedux

Here you go....how he keeps doing it:

Trump has two fists

First one labelled "Non-PC"

Second is "Truth"

When he comes out with a Non-PC statement...the Dims and MSM are all over it....giving Trump days or a week of free advertising.

He then hits them with Fist No 2...the Truth....and demolishes them.

Repeat this and the Dims and MSM spinning all the way down

Its called the Thatch Weave...developed by US Naval Aviators at the start of WWII.

13 posted on 10/2/2016, 3:31:59 PM by spokeshave (In the Thatch Weave,..Trump's Wing Man is Truth.rc)
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Dec 16, 2005

GOLLOCKS!
From Here's the rumor what the Wikileaks is...... posted by freeper hotsteppa

https://twitter.com/gslippey/status/782754603783823360

And just in case that gets deleted,


Yup, this one goes all the way back to Gore vs Bush!

And of course, freep's buying it.

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To: hotsteppa

If true, sounds explosive.

So explosive it will tear this country apart. What are we to do, arrest the entire government? How can we stop the "fix" on the election?

4 posted on 10/2/2016, 9:22:49 PM by Kenny

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To: kvanbrunt2; All

If Trump wins, Rudy and Christie will be very busy.

Trump will audit the Fed, fire all the lobbyists, and a whole host of DC cleansing. Unemployment in Washington will skyrocket. :-)

22 posted on 10/2/2016, 9:36:05 PM by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common any more.)

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To: hotsteppa

From what I gather, Hitlery is toast. No doubt, the Dims have Biden ready, waiting in the wings. Don’t think he’s got enough time though to build an adequate campaign force that can stand against the formidable Trump movement.


30 posted on 10/2/2016, 9:46:00 PM by TheTopRead (President Trump... get used to hearing that name!!)

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To: TheTopRead

One “mystery” that may be solved is why some GOPe such as Romney, the Bushes, Kasich, McConnell, Graham, McCain and Ryan are such incorrigible assholes. Maybe even Glenn Beck! Lots of people might have taken Hillary’s filthy blood money. Lots of lives could go boom if they have who she bought.


38 posted on 10/2/2016, 9:55:30 PM by Scott from the Left Coast (I'm deplorable)

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To: hotsteppa

Is this how Sanders got the money for his new house?


40 posted on 10/2/2016, 10:01:36 PM by MattinNJ (It's over Johnny. The America you knew is gone. Denial serves no purpose.)

What the hell is this? Skepticism of a conspiracy theory? On freep? Impossible.

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To: Williams

I dug just a little into the guy that supposedly wrote this. His twitter page is less than impressive. And nothing about this on it last time I checked. I think this story is bogus.


44 posted on 10/2/2016, 10:06:39 PM by Rokke

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To: hotsteppa

Sounds ridiculous and nonsensical...as if we are all being setup


46 posted on 10/2/2016, 10:09:22 PM by montag813

Oops, back into :tinfoil: town

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To: fretzer

I’m just stunned by how far and wide this corruption goes. I mean I knew it was bad, just not this bad. Such a sad day.

And now I guess they can cut off the Internet as well, not good.


48 posted on 10/2/2016, 10:13:38 PM by Kenny

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To: Kenny

"So explosive it will tear this country apart."

We have a government openly supplying and supporting Al Quada(John Kerry in recent hearing) and no one gives a gently caress.

Why on earth do you think it would tear this country apart?

58 posted on 10/2/2016, 10:47:28 PM by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')

Is that a sarcastic question? It will tear this country apart to expose them, it’s not new what they’re doing. So many American live in denial, don’t know how they’ll take facts.

I personally think these are frightening times. Would I not want Assange to reveal this if true, no it needs to be done. If we don’t stop it here, there will be no hope. I just don’t know how it will play out.

60 posted on 10/2/2016, 10:59:58 PM by Kenny
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Jul 27, 2007

by exmarx

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To: justlurking 

Over 50% of the people in this country haven’t got a clue what tax returns are. They’ve never paid taxes. I don’t know what the big deal is. 


4 posted on 10/2/2016, 1:53:05 PM by FlingWingFlyer (Forget the media's "endorsements" of Clintoon. They are unfit to be Americans. Vote Trump!)

I'm confused. Aside from unemployed, how do you pay zero taxes without knowing what a tax return is?

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Jagged Jim
Sep 26, 2013

I... I can only look though the window...
Polk County man arrested for having milk crate

A guy in Florida with a dairy crate attached to his bike got arrested for "Possession of Dairy Crate."

Polk County Sheriff’s Office posted:

“Deputies are actually out there proactively looking for things that don’t look right; looking for suspicious things. If they see somebody riding a bicycle at 10 o’clock at night they may have a conversation with them. They are looking for people who are doing even the smallest crime, because, what we’ve learned is, those who will go out an steal a milk crate, for example, are the same people who are probably breaking into cars, breaking into your house,” Horstman said.

Seriously, gently caress the police.

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To: Daffynition

The idiot should have only spoken Spanish to the cop and said he had no documentation.

4 posted on 10/02/2016 8:03:24 PM PDT by Darteaus94025 (Can't have a Liberal without a Lie)
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To: Daffynition

OK, while I fully support the police, some of them are just being STUPID.

8 posted on 10/02/2016 8:05:43 PM PDT by piytar (http://www.truthrevolt.org/videos/bill-whittle-number-one-bullet)
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:freep: logic

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To: Daffynition

So, why be “heartless” and arrest petty criminals?

” ... what we’ve learned is, those who will go out an steal a milk crate, for example, are the same people who are probably breaking into cars, breaking into your house,” Horstman said.”

Sounds like stealing is a gateway crime. If somebody breaks into your house, they can be shot dead. Don’t want to die doing home invasion? Don’t start small with stealing milk crates.

12 posted on 10/02/2016 8:09:04 PM PDT by sagar
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Benghazi! EMAILS! Vince Foster!

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To: Daffynition

OH MY LORD!
it is SO nice that we live in a nation of LAW

at least, for the little people who might find old milk crates alongside the road

of course, for HilLIARy, she’s collected a reported $200 million in apparently illegal money...from enemy dictatorships and all....for a “family charity” that reportedly only spends 6 percent outside the family...
but she’s not in prison, she’s headed for the White House.

seee.. equal justice under law!

/s

13 posted on 10/02/2016 8:09:06 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ("Politicians are not born. They're excreted." Marcus Tullius Cicero.)
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To: piytar

“OK, while I fully support the police, some of them are just being STUPID.”

Sounds like you are not “fully” supporting the police, because they are simply enforcing the law — you get arrested for stealing/possessing stolen property.

16 posted on 10/02/2016 8:11:45 PM PDT by sagar
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:fap:

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To: Daffynition

I hope the officer got to use his nightstick on the perp.

18 posted on 10/02/2016 8:15:03 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Je Suis Pepe)
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To: keving

it sounds like a crazy place, but at least it tends to vote correctly

smile smile

19 posted on 10/02/2016 8:15:15 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ("Politicians are not born. They're excreted." Marcus Tullius Cicero.)
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To: Daffynition

When I lived right on the beach in Virginia Beach, I walked out to the beach early one morning and noticed two milk cartons obviously abandoned by someone on the beach.

I have no idea where they came from but I took them back to the house. I still have them.

I have owned several guns which were marked “U.S. Property”. They were perfectly legal to own no matter what the printing said.

The cop should be successfully sued and then fired.

20 posted on 10/02/2016 8:15:58 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8:38-39, For I am persuaded.)
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loving poors! :argh:

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To: Daffynition

And how many grocery carts are off limits for the homeless?

23 posted on 10/02/2016 8:18:12 PM PDT by Foolsgold (Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber)
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To: sagar

shopping carts for all, but not milk crates.

24 posted on 10/02/2016 8:18:35 PM PDT by the_daug
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You wouldn't download a car, would you?

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To: piytar

“I see them on the side of thre road all the time.”

You probably also see cars parked on the side of the road all the time. Can’t just take stuff, can you?

31 posted on 10/02/2016 8:26:09 PM PDT by sagar
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:fap:

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To: Daffynition

“FRY THE LITTLE CRIMINAL PERP!”

32 posted on 10/02/2016 8:26:31 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ("Politicians are not born. They're excreted." Marcus Tullius Cicero.)
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To: Daffynition

The registered owner should get a fine for leaving their milk crates lying around. Maybe have it equal the cost to the county for feeding and ajudicating this joker.

34 posted on 10/02/2016 8:27:22 PM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: Kirkwood

Look at upstate NY; know why there are no dairy farms anymore? Farm after farm abandoned.

There’s no money in milk production. If you are a dairy and have to keep replacing missing crates...it would be a problem after a while.

46 posted on 10/02/2016 8:33:18 PM PDT by Daffynition (*Donald Trump represents the WILL of the PEOPLE.*~ Don King 09.24.16)
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Suuuuure they wouldn't. :jerkbag:

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To: Darteaus94025

they would never pull this crap with a black guy....but some white guy on a BICYLE gets thrown in jail....

47 posted on 10/02/2016 8:33:30 PM PDT by cherry (<p>)
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:freep: logic, part II:

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To: Daffynition

They are looking for people who are doing even the smallest crime, because, what we’ve learned is, those who will go out an steal a milk crate, for example, are the same people who are probably breaking into cars, breaking into your house,” Horstman said.

Conversely, those who steal millions by creating a false foundation for the poor, giving 5 percent to the poor but keeping the bulk for themselves, lying to the FBI, making enemies disappear in supposed "suicides", started out with small crimes but were never held accountable.

If the cops didn't nab this guy, just think, he could've gone on to run for president someday.

55 posted on 10/02/2016 8:44:34 PM PDT by roadcat
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To: chaosagent

Yes, if the label also says “THIS BOTTLE IS THE PROPERTY OF THE COCA COLA CORPORATION. USE BY OTHER THAN REGISTERED OWNER PUNISHABLE BY LAW.”

Remember the guy who found a prototype iPhone in a bar and sold it? Remember he got in a sh!tload of legal trouble for it? That’s what we’re talking about : clearly “not yours” and you can literally be arrested if you act like it’s yours. Daries need those crates, don’t sell them, and have a big problem with people stealing them.

69 posted on 10/02/2016 9:07:10 PM PDT by ctdonath2 ("If anyone will not listen to your words, shake the dust from your feet and leave them." - Jesus)
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To: roadcat

Ask Rudy Giuliani

“The broken windows theory is a criminological theory of the norm-setting and signaling effect of urban disorder and vandalism on additional crime and anti-social behavior. The theory states that maintaining and monitoring urban environments to prevent small crimes such as vandalism, public drinking, and toll-jumping helps to create an atmosphere of order and lawfulness, thereby preventing more serious crimes from happening.

The theory was introduced in a 1982 article by social scientists James Q. Wilson and George L. Kelling.[1] Since then it has been subject to great debate both within the social sciences and the public sphere. The theory has been used as a motivation for several reforms in criminal policy, including the controversial mass use of “stop, question, and frisk” by the New York City Police Department.”

Jes sayin’ ;)

77 posted on 10/02/2016 9:37:31 PM PDT by Daffynition (*Donald Trump represents the WILL of the PEOPLE.*~ Don King 09.24.16)
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He starts out reasonable, then welp...

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To: piytar

Yes, I see many crates that have been taken from stores along highways and roads.

The best policy would have been to take the crate and return it to the owner, not put some slob in jail for “possession”.

Help, this Deputy would have shot my granddaughter because she once found a camera on the side of the road.

I knew parts of Florida were run by assholes. Now this latest of several from that part of the state confirm it.

Glad my relatives lived in the eastern side of Florida.

And come to DC. People ride bikes all night long esp. those who work in restaurants that stay open to at least 11:00 PM or later. This sheriff would probably shoot them to.

Our country needs a complete cleanout of the commies, crooks, and stupids (including that handful of cops who screw it up for decent folk. PS: My son was a good cop. He won’t do this crap).

81 posted on 10/02/2016 11:23:04 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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Freepers: we are talking about a President who is happy to fund sex changes for transgender midgets.

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Slashrat
Jun 6, 2011

YOSPOS
 Man, what'd little people ever do to freepers anyway?

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Malachite_Dragon
Mar 31, 2010

Weaving Merry Christmas magic
Didn't lie down in the street and die, so they offended them.

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SocketWrench
Jul 8, 2012

by Fritz the Horse

McGlockenshire posted:

To: MrChips

I absolutely love FR, but I'm puzzled at how folks sometimes refuse to face reality. Ads DO work.. how else do you explain a corrupt, lying, nasty, shrill bitch with NO accomplishments (except negative ones) is tied to a very successful businessman who has crated nearly 100,000 jobs... it's the media and non-stop ads...

I've been hearing since Aug (not necessarily here) that he will carpet bomb after Labor Day, then late Sept, then Oct... his approval rating is in the mid-30s and I don't care how bad you let opponent is, you don't win with 30s approval. He had a chance to call her out in front of 86 million and held back... apparently Chelsea's feelings were more important than our nation and our children..

Getting really frustrated at not only his reticence to spend, but his bragging about it! The media shuts down his message, he didn't strike at her at the debate.... if he's not gonna spend massively on ads, how will he get his pro-jobs, pro-America agenda known??

7 posted on 10/2/2016, 4:58:18 PM by NYC-RepublicanCT (Trump vs Media/Dems/Obamas/NeverTrumpers. Still winning!!!)

Actually it's because you're backing a loud mouthed racist, sexist, idiotic, poor business, lying, cheating, corrupt, immoral bastard. Hillary doesn't need to run ads and the media doesn't need to persuade anyone, just let Trump run his mouth like he always does

hillary was just head of the state department handling international affairs, no accomplishments or anything, while Donald was living tax free not paying people and losing billions. No big.

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Jagged Jim
Sep 26, 2013

I... I can only look though the window...
I AM BILL CLINTON'S SON! 'I AM REAL'

So Bill Clinton fathered a illegitimate black baby.

Sure, why not?

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To: COUNTrecount

FYI for Danny. Surely he realizes that there is already a DNA profile of Bill Clinton on file that he or other representatives could force to be compared with a sample of his. Call Ken Starr..... hahahahaha

5 posted on 10/03/2016 6:15:46 AM PDT by Gaffer
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The web is unraveling! :freep:

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To: COUNTrecount

I had heard that DNA tests already proved otherwise

I may be wrong

If I recall Clinton was confronted by this kids mother (the hooker he was sleeping with) who claimed it was his son, and he told her he had mumps when he was young and so is sterile

This would lend credence to Chelsea really being Web Hubbels daughter too

6 posted on 10/03/2016 6:15:54 AM PDT by Mr. K (<a href="https://imgflip.com/i/1adpjl"><img src="https://i.imgflip.com/1adpjl.jpg" title="made at im)
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To: COUNTrecount

Resemblances I’ve seen are striking, ie: face shape, lower Doonesbury eyebag-thing.

Seems Hillary’s been a cold beotch to him keeping him at arm’s length.
Ma, ma, where’s my pa?

8 posted on 10/03/2016 6:17:51 AM PDT by MarchonDC09122009 (When is our next march on DC? When have we had enough?)
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To: COUNTrecount

Wow, this is an old rumor but Drudge is slapping it up there.

I wonder what is going on.... ???

I have a feeling the “October Surprise” is actually “Surprises” plural and will be a multi-pronged approach.

Let’s do this, America!!! Take her down!!

GO TRUMP!

10 posted on 10/03/2016 6:19:31 AM PDT by bryan999
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To: COUNTrecount

Obama does not have a son because Bill Clinton stole him.

Now we know

11 posted on 10/03/2016 6:20:45 AM PDT by rdcbn ("There is no means of avoiding a final collapse of a boom brought about by credit expansion. The alt)
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Of course Ken loving Starr Investigated this poo poo. Of course.

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To: Mr. K

Clinton told Juanita not to worry about getting pregnant, when he raped her, because he had had mumps.

As I recall, the Starr investigation claimed to have disproven the Danny story but would not let anyone else examine the evidence.

15 posted on 10/03/2016 6:21:38 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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Good grief, they really believe that Chelsea isn't Bill's child. :psyduck:

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To: COUNTrecount

He should start a GoFundMe legal aid fund. He’s 1/2 heir to the Clintoon fortune (since the taxpayers will never see it). At least half, sharing with that girl who’s parents are Hillary and Web Hubble.(Nice way to treat a black family member Hillary ...)

18 posted on 10/03/2016 6:22:17 AM PDT by Swanks
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To: COUNTrecount

Looking for a piece of the Clinton Family Crime fund.

23 posted on 10/03/2016 6:23:30 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: COUNTrecount

Look at the pics down the page.

He’s voting for Hillary!

Why aren’t there more of these “children of Bill” with his history?

24 posted on 10/03/2016 6:24:08 AM PDT by browniexyz
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To: COUNTrecount

Really, I don’t see any resemblance. Not only that, the mother was a call girl, so it seems that the guy could be anyone’s son. I am a firm believer that Chelsea is Web Hubbell’s biological daughter. I do not believe it was an extramarital affair. Clinton could not have babies and they needed a political baby, enter Web Hubbel.

28 posted on 10/03/2016 6:25:31 AM PDT by Toespi
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To: COUNTrecount

To me, there is a resemblance between the two of them. I wouldn’t be surprised if true.

Hard to know how this cuts, politically. Our black brother & sister FReepers will have to weigh in.

But it is pretty obnoxious if the young man was shunted aside as yet another Clinton casualty all these years, as he is the innocent party.

I went over to this young man’s Twitter feed and saw some photos of him in (what appears to be) military fatigues (?). I’m not an expert on this, but it looks like he may have enlisted in the military.

If I am right about the military thing, comparing a soldier who volunteered to serve our nation to that miserable, spoiled, sanctimonious Chelsea Clinton isn’t even a fair fight.

I wish him all the best.

29 posted on 10/03/2016 6:26:38 AM PDT by Dana1960
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To: COUNTrecount

Chelsea still claims to be his offspring too. And people believe her. Odd how chelsea doesn’t use her married name. No recognition with that I guess.

31 posted on 10/03/2016 6:26:57 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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I don't know what filthy rag you used to work for but we here at Drudge Report have standards!

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To: COUNTrecount

Drudge does not post old unproven news as a headline!

33 posted on 10/03/2016 6:27:59 AM PDT by tirednvirginia ( But help is on the way!)
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To: bryan999

You may be right about multiple surprises. In boxing, knockouts usually come, not from a “hay maker”, but from the devastating effects of a combination of punches. As they say “punches in bunches”.

34 posted on 10/03/2016 6:28:14 AM PDT by Starboard
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Try to keep up, minnesota_bound.

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To: COUNTrecount

Does not look like him plus obama does not like women.

37 posted on 10/03/2016 6:29:00 AM PDT by minnesota_bound
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What, seriously? The Blue Dress? :psyboom:

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To: Mr. K

I had heard that DNA tests already proved otherwise

A DNA test for Danny was run against data that was purportedly on file from the Blue Dress test... but it would be in the interest of government security agencies to replace the real data with false data. Consequently it's hard to say whether the negative results from the paternity test are valid or not.

39 posted on 10/03/2016 6:29:45 AM PDT by Oberon (John 12:5-6)
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To: COUNTrecount

Maybe that’s why Bill kept to cigars and the blue dress treatment...afterward!

40 posted on 10/03/2016 6:29:54 AM PDT by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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False Flag!

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To: Mr. K

I believe this story first came up circa 1998. I thought it was a false flag type of thing.

43 posted on 10/03/2016 6:30:47 AM PDT by lacrew
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To: COUNTrecount

In order for this kid to be his son, Bill Clinton would have to have been having sex with his black hooker mom during the time he was married to HilLIARy.

Has anyone asked Bill if he was having sex with black hookers?

46 posted on 10/03/2016 6:32:39 AM PDT by Mr. K (<a href="https://imgflip.com/i/1adpjl"><img src="https://i.imgflip.com/1adpjl.jpg" title="made at im)
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To: COUNTrecount

If this guy had a real case, there would be lawyers lining up to sue Bill Clinton. He is worth over $60 million and “his son” would have a legitimate claim to inherit his fortune. Doubt it is true. The far more significant headline will be that either Trump or Assange releases irrefutable documentation that Hillary is a lesbian. If that happens, 3-5% of Hillary’s support will vaporize and she will lose the election.

47 posted on 10/03/2016 6:33:09 AM PDT by allendale
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To: COUNTrecount

She’ll do ANYTHING for votes... in THIS case... Minority votes!

Sheesh!

48 posted on 10/03/2016 6:33:58 AM PDT by SMARTY ("What is freedom? To have the will to be responsible for one's self. "M. Stirner)
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To: lacrew

I believe this story first came up circa 1998. I thought it was a false flag type of thing.

Much was made of this story on FR at the time. I would not be at all surprised if it is true, but the 'rats have "defined deviancy down" to such a degree that no one cares if it is true (except for Clinton's bastard son).

50 posted on 10/03/2016 6:34:14 AM PDT by Sans-Culotte ("Political Correctness is communist propaganda writ small" - Theodore Dalrymple)
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To: COUNTrecount

A great angle would be that he is entitles to half og Bills fortune

I have heard more than once about the mumps/sterile thing, so that would make him NOT the father, but the question remains- was he having sex with the kids’ black hooker mother at the time he was governor (or AG) of Arkansas and married to hilLIARy?

55 posted on 10/03/2016 6:36:30 AM PDT by Mr. K (<a href="https://imgflip.com/i/1adpjl"><img src="https://i.imgflip.com/1adpjl.jpg" title="made at im)
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Dammit Freep, focus! we're on Illegitimate black babies, not feminists right now.

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To: rktman
Odd how chelsea doesn't’t use her married name

The feminists don't use their husband's name.

I sit next to one at work.

She is always shrill or hysterical like a hyena.
56 posted on 10/03/2016 6:37:14 AM PDT by Uversabound (Our Military past and present: Our Highest example of Brotherhood of Man & Doing God's Will)
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To: Hildy

>>Told another women he was sterile .......

so she wouldn’t insist on ‘protection’ and she would never think to bring a paternity suit against him.

Very Clintonesque.

58 posted on 10/03/2016 6:39:55 AM PDT by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
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To: bryan999

I was wondering the same thing. This is bizarre for sure. Hopefully today will begin the war on Hillary that will take her out. We are hanging on by a thread.

61 posted on 10/03/2016 6:41:37 AM PDT by longfellowsmuse (last of the living nomads)
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To: COUNTrecount

I’ve always heard Bill was sterile from the mumps. I’ve heard Bill is grateful to Webb for helping him have a child. Bill messed around so much you’d think there would have been more. This guy doesn’t resemble Bill that much, either.

Also, this is a distraction. Libs and the media are reacting only to the classic bit that bill was a horny goat. NO, THAT IS NOT IMPORTANT. What is important is this:

1. Hillary defended a sexual predator, a rapist.
2. How is this different from those wives of molestors and kidnappers like the Smart girl and the other one who was kidnapped and forced to have children by the male kidnapped?
3. Hillary trashed these victims SO THAT SHE COULD GAIN POWER FROM BILL’S DEEDS.
4. This big strong feminist wouldn’t even TRY on her own. She wouldn’t divorce Bill back in Little Rock and try her hand at politics. Noooooo, she clung to a woman-abusing perv because he had charisma and some brains and she figured she could ride his coat tails.

63 posted on 10/03/2016 6:42:15 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Toespi
"Really, I don’t see any resemblance."

In similar poses, Angela Merkel would look more like Bill Clinton than his alleged child. (And besides his "son" who cares? Everyone knows that Bill is a cad and he's not running for president.)

Think Hillary trying to arrange for a drone strike on Julian Assange is the much bigger story. Smoke screen today?
69 posted on 10/03/2016 6:44:33 AM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Every nation has the government it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: Toespi

I don’t believe it either. If there were a DNA test that would be another thing. I don’t see any resemblance whatsoever. Weird story to put out (again.) Wouldn’t change anyone’s mind. I just want the illegals gone, so Trump had my vote at that.

73 posted on 10/03/2016 6:46:18 AM PDT by brucedickinson
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To: Uversabound

Doesn’t it seem that libs are the most miserable people ever? Man, I would hate to go through life like that.

75 posted on 10/03/2016 6:47:29 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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To: COUNTrecount

He couldn’t be a serious threat to the Clintoons because he is still alive.

79 posted on 10/03/2016 6:48:03 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (#DeplorableMe #BitterClinger #HillNO!)
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To: COUNTrecount

I remember this story from way back when. I presumed a hooker mom made up the story about the governor being the baby daddy to impress her family and make her fatherless son feel good about himself. It wouldn’t be the first time a bastard child was told a phony daddy story. That said, I have no problem believing Bubba was seeing black hookers, so maybe it’s all true. For all we know old Roger Clinton could be the daddy.

I think Trump should tread cautiously here. Absent solid proof, most will never believe this.

Final thought: Don’t bother comparing his DNA to Chelsea’s.

88 posted on 10/03/2016 6:54:43 AM PDT by .45 Long Colt
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To: Toespi

Besides she gay and no man would breed with her.

94 posted on 10/03/2016 6:57:38 AM PDT by stockpirate (OBAMA MUST BE ON THE PAYROLL OF THE CLINTON FOUNDATION.)
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To: kabar

--Why is Drudge running this old, unproven story?

First thing that went through my mind. Would Drudge expose himself to massive ridicule for headlining this if he didn't know more than meets the eye?

It seems he knows another shoe is about to drop in the form of a large heavy boot.

95 posted on 10/03/2016 6:58:05 AM PDT by JPG (Go Trump!)
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To: rktman

Doesn’t it seem that libs are the most miserable people ever? Man, I would hate to go through life like that.

they have forgotten God. If you dont have him to turn things over to you become like this.

Its the only answer I can come up with. Total disconnect.

100 posted on 10/03/2016 7:02:06 AM PDT by Uversabound (Our Military past and present: Our Highest example of Brotherhood of Man & Doing God's Will)
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To: COUNTrecount

Maybe just a distraction from what Assange will be putting out tomorrow.

104 posted on 10/03/2016 7:07:13 AM PDT by Notasoccermom
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To: COUNTrecount

lol

even Bill has standards.

No way in heck he got with this guys mom. Complete Walmart dog.

116 posted on 10/03/2016 7:15:22 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (You can't spell Hillary without using the letters L, I, A, R)
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To: Dana1960

I'm not black, but I'll speculate how it plays. If the Clintons provided for the child, emotionally and financially, including him being an heir, it helps the Clintons. If hillary has tried to do stuff to keep Bill from a child or to keep him from supporting and nurturing a son, it works against them.

Give Mr. Trump credit here. Tiffany has been well provided for and is part of the Trump family, in spite of circumstances. Why circumstances? Tiffany is the child of a failed relationship and marriage, between the two marriages that play by far a larger part in his life.

118 posted on 10/03/2016 7:18:06 AM PDT by grania (I'm Deplorable)
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Geostomp
Oct 22, 2008

Unite: MASH!!
~They've got the bad guys on the run!~
I'm surprised they didn't go full on Klan rally like I expected this time and actually questioned the validity of a story. They didn't disappoint as much as I thought they would.

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Lord Hydronium
Sep 25, 2007

Non, je ne regrette rien


 "Chelsea isn't Bill's" is a new one to me. I think it's fascinating that they have a knee-jerk need for a conspiracy theory about everything they don't like. Even when they get handed something like "Hillary has pneumonia" they have to insist she has triple-AIDS instead.

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Shugojin
Sep 6, 2007

THE TAIL THAT BURNS TWICE AS BRIGHT...

McGlockenshire posted:

Freep really, really wants Trump to go hard on Bill. Don't they realize how much of a trap that is?

Through the power of historical revision they have forgotten that going hard on Bill Clinton is a sure-fire way to get brutally owned by Bill Clinton

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BarbarianElephant
Feb 12, 2015
The fairy of forgiveness has removed your red text.

Lord Hydronium posted:

"Chelsea isn't Bill's" is a new one to me. I think it's fascinating that they have a knee-jerk need for a conspiracy theory about everything they don't like. Even when they get handed something like "Hillary has pneumonia" they have to insist she has triple-AIDS instead.

Yeah, they can never take a win. They always have to take it a little further, like kids exaggerating "Your dad knows the mayor? Well MY DAD is a spy! And he won the lottery! And he can lift a car!"

Obama's former pastor said some dodgy stuff, but the right never really pressed that because it didn't fit with their "Secret Muslim" batshit crazy narrative.

The odd thing is how well it works. There is a huge appetite for conspiracy in the USA, the bigger and crazier the better.

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SocketWrench
Jul 8, 2012

by Fritz the Horse

Geostomp posted:

I'm surprised they didn't go full on Klan rally like I expected this time and actually questioned the validity of a story. They didn't disappoint as much as I thought they would.

Hell no, it's something bad about Clinton. The only response is to accept it completely

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McGlockenshire
Dec 16, 2005

GOLLOCKS!
Donald Trump has had a very, very bad morning.

From Donald Trump’s gaffe on veterans and PTSD shows just what an amateur he still is posted by freeper ObozoMustGo2012

During a Q&A session with some veterans, he talked about PTSD and suicide and that while he was sure that everyone in the room was "strong" enough to "handle" it, others weren't.

Yes, that is in context. Video and audio are in the article.

Attempting to equate post-traumatic stress disorder and the military suicide rate with strength is so amazingly out of touch with everything that actually needs to be said about either of those two things that I can't actually summon the right words to tell Trump how much he should get hosed.

Given most of freep doesn't understand anything approaching modern mental health concepts and how deeply seeped they are in the aspects of culture we now call toxic masculinity, I'm sure that just reading this thread is going to really, really piss me off.

quote:

To: ObozoMustGo2012

Why is the media not asking why are we not helping these soldiers?

Trump has a point here, not everyone is as “strong” as everyone else and war can take its toll on people

I don’t see the problem with what he said, of course the liberal and dishonest media creates a quote out of that, that is totally false or the opposite of what Trump said


5 posted on 10/3/2016, 1:02:17 PM by arl295

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To: ObozoMustGo2012

Ever since WikiLeaks unveiled the direct link between the MSM and the Democratic National Committee, the trust in the mass media has taken such a massive nosedive that even Snopes.com is coming under serious question. The anti-Trump screed from the MSM is now turning into white noise, in my humble opinion.

14 posted on 10/3/2016, 1:10:09 PM by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)

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To: ObozoMustGo2012

We’re sick of professional politicians and their crooked media enablers.


15 posted on 10/3/2016, 1:10:46 PM by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)

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To: ObozoMustGo2012

I love the smell of Liberal DESPERATTTTTTION.


17 posted on 10/3/2016, 1:12:26 PM by conservativepoet

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To: heights

He said nothing that was wrong. It is simply true that the ability to withstand the rigors of combat varies from person to person. I just read Atkinson’s three volume work on WWII in Africa and Europe. It included a quote from an Army doctor to the effect that even the strongest personality would break after too much time in the front lines with a rifle company. This is just the latest example of the media taking a perfectly fine quote from Trump and unfairly characterizing it. The media have been trending steadily leftward for years. This year, however, they have simply gone over the top.


20 posted on 10/3/2016, 1:16:53 PM by p. henry

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To: ObozoMustGo2012

"Some suggested Trump was saying veterans who have post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) are weak. Others suggested that maybe he just got his words mixed up and shouldn't be raked over the coals."

I wonder if these moron journalists flunked their Literature 101 classes? Can't these yahoos correctly get the meaning of a clear statement?

When Trump said,"a lot of people can't handle it," he meant that some veterans do not have the psychological strength to handle PTSD and need help. He did not say all veterans with PTSD are weak and cannot handle it.

24 posted on 10/3/2016, 1:21:51 PM by jonrick46 (The Left has a mental disorder: A totalitarian mindset..)

Again, just to make sure that this is perfectly clear, the context of the quote, including Trump's tone of voice, make it very clear that the clause about people not being strong enough to handle it was clearly a hit at PTSD sufferers.

quote:

Well, they aren’t strong and they can’t handle it. Why? Because they have PTSD, they need help and Trump knows this. He also knows the VA is broken. He promises to fix it. He also wonders why illegal immigrant and others are getting help and abusing the system while the Vets are lingering without that level of support. He knows that.


27 posted on 10/3/2016, 1:44:40 PM by Clutch Martin

quote:

To: ObozoMustGo2012

He sounds entirely accurate to me.


28 posted on 10/3/2016, 1:45:01 PM by jch10 (Stand strong! we have a country to save!)

quote:

To: ObozoMustGo2012

“Some suggested Trump was saying veterans who have post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) are weak.”

Obama changed the rules as to who qualifies for PTSD and thus government $$$$$.

This is why the system has been flooded and the people who really need the care don’t get it.

It used to be that you had to have combat exposure to qualify.

Now half of the cases are sexual harassment PTSD, or I saw a dead body PTSD, or believe it or not, I saw the casket with dead bodies in it and I got PTSD.

The veterans are having a difficult time finding good jobs in the floundering economy are turning to the government for support. If a vet gets full disability it is $36,000 per year tax free.

I am not denying that their are legitimate PTSD cases as I have worked with them. Shame is that while they are in the military the treatment sucks. Until recently it involved giving the soldier a 180 day supply of benzos to pop and get addicted to. Thankfully they have now cut back on them as they are highly addictive.

However, just because someone is a veteran does not mean that they have PTSD. Again, the problem is the same for PTSD as it is for food stamps. It’s become an Obama give away!!!!


30 posted on 10/3/2016, 1:48:36 PM by tired&retired (Blessings)

I'm glad there's nothing else worthy in that thread because that tab is now closed forever never to be reopened.

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woke wedding drone
Jun 1, 2003

by exmarx
Fun Shoe
Ha, ok apparently Webb Hubbell is supposed to be Chelsea's real dad. When you google him some of the first image results are pictures comparing him to her.

Mental illness is real

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WrenP-Complete
Jul 27, 2012

 So the one small glimmer of truth in that poo poo pile of material is that the definition of PTSD did change while Obama was in office. We went from DSM IV to V in 2013. That decision was made by the various DSM committees: https://www.psychiatry.org/psychiatrists/practice/dsm

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Duke Igthorn
Oct 11, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

SocketWrench posted:

Hell no, it's something bad about Clinton. The only response is to accept it completely
Right?

quote:

I am a firm believer that Chelsea is Web Hubbell’s biological daughter.
Like, what evidence did he see that absolutely convinced him of this to the very core of his being? While screaming PHOTOSHOP at a birth certificate

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McGlockenshire
Dec 16, 2005

GOLLOCKS!
From NY Attorney General sends cease and desist order to Trump Foundation posted by freeper DCBryan1

A few days ago, some investigative journalist or another discovered that the Trump Foundation never filed the needed paperwork with the state of New York that registers is as accepting more than a certain dollar amount of donations from the public in a given year. The unregistered limit is like $25k a year, or something. Don't quote me on that.

Speculation was that nothing interesting would happen until after the election, because they're already under investigation by the NY state Attorney General and it'd all just get lumped together with whatever of the rest of their investigation, if anything, unveils. It seems that the AG's office didn't want to wait. The C&D isn't an operational shutdown, it just stops them from accepting any further donations from the public.

Oh, did I mention that the NY AG is a Democrat?

quote:

To: DCBryan1

Don’t go up against big daddy government. They have unlimited taxpayer funds to bring you down.


2 posted on 10/3/2016, 10:07:57 AM by Trumplican

I love the scare quotes here. They'd have known this was coming if any actual anti-Trump articles were allowed to be posted.

quote:

To: ifinnegan

The link says to stop soliciting donations because he “isn’t properly licensed”.....They’re pulling out all the stops.....


6 posted on 10/3/2016, 10:11:28 AM by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)

quote:

To: DCBryan1

Guessing they are going all out knowing that the wiki leaks thing is going to be damaging.


11 posted on 10/3/2016, 10:13:09 AM by nhwingut (Trump-Pence 2016 - Blow Up The GOPe)

quote:

To: DCBryan1

The weaponized Democrat government at work. Schneiderman is a hyperpartisan Rat attack dog. Any word on the Clinton Foundation.......


12 posted on 10/3/2016, 10:14:33 AM by Truth29

quote:

To: DCBryan1

Lol...this is so blatantly political it borders on a mob storming the capital and “having a word” top with the jackwagon.


14 posted on 10/3/2016, 10:15:32 AM by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)

This is a reply to something about news that the FBI cut even more deals while trying to investigate Hillary's emails.

quote:

To: Sarah Barracuda

These are the sort of Third World shenanigans we would expect from a Tin Pot Dictator as in Haiti or Argentina, but used to make fun of in the United States. Woody Allen made movies about such things. Comedies. If this really happened; (the FBI agreeing to destroy incriminating evidence against a powerful politician) that is tremendously distressing! The system is already busted-broken, almost impossible to repair without first purging all the vermin.


30 posted on 10/3/2016, 10:34:28 AM by lee martell

quote:

Comment #38 Removed by Moderator

Shards of reality still make it through from time to time.

quote:

To: pabianice

I was told Trump would be bulletproof to the attack barrage Hillary would throw at him. Not so much. And if his return fire continues to be Bill’s affairs, the ship is sunk.


45 posted on 10/3/2016, 11:40:11 AM by dead

quote:

To: DCBryan1

I’m sending Schneiderman my “cease and desist” from living order. He will turn out to be just as corrupt as his predecessors. The guys in jail are just waiting for his butt.


50 posted on 10/3/2016, 1:26:24 PM by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

quote:

To: DCBryan1

Put this guy on the list for prosecution after the election. Sadly, he is nowhere near the top. He has plenty of competition for ahead of him that is not just political dirty dealing but treasonous dirty dealing that puts the security of this country at risk.


55 posted on 10/3/2016, 1:59:12 PM by generally ( Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)

Freepers: prosecute all who oppose Trump!

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McGlockenshire
Dec 16, 2005

GOLLOCKS!
From Obama: Republican voters think I'm 'the Antichrist' posted by freeper PROCON

It's a horrible Fox News article that pulls quotes from this interview of Obama in New York Magazine.

Here's the quote with context.

the actual article posted:

It’s convenient for them to present those personal interactions as the basis for why these things don’t happen, but the problem hasn’t been personal interactions. The conversations I have privately with Republicans are always very different than the public presentations that are made of them.

And that goes back to the point I made earlier: They’re looking at Charlie Crist down in Florida. One hug [from me] and he was toast. Chris Christie couldn’t get his presidential race launched — it was basically over before it started — because he was too friendly and cooperative with me in accepting federal aid for a state that had been devastated by a hurricane. They’re imagining the potential problems that arise, so it’s pretty hard for them to publicly say, “Obama’s a perfectly reasonable guy, but we just can’t work with him because our base thinks he’s the Antichrist.” It’s a lot easier for them to say, “Oh, the guy’s not listening to us,” or, “He’s uncompromising.” I understand that, it’s not something that has bothered me personally. In fact, sometimes I tease them about it behind the scenes; I’ll tell them, “Look, if you need some help, me attacking you or you know …” And the times where we have gotten things done, it has been very important for me to, frankly, help them try to manage their base

I'm gonna miss Obama.

Freep won't.

quote:

Not THE anti-Christ, you aren't smart enough!

He sure loves himself, doesn't he?

The Narcissist-in Chief.

1 posted on 10/3/2016, 12:28:41 PM by PROCON

quote:

To: PROCON

I think he is Gog, not the Anti-Christ.


4 posted on 10/3/2016, 12:29:47 PM by castlegreyskull

quote:

To: Scythian_Reborn

I think he is a clear precursor to the Anti-Christ. it was unbelievable about how fast he rose to prominence, and the level of worship he received. That being said, he didn’t fool enough people. I think the Anti-Christ will fool 95% of the World.


10 posted on 10/3/2016, 12:31:18 PM by castlegreyskull

quote:

To: PROCON

Just smart enough to apply Alinsky methods to American jurisprudence. And here he’s using the tactic of ridiculing the opponent.


24 posted on 10/3/2016, 12:34:47 PM by The Westerner ("Giving Away the Internet or Any Part of It Is Sheer Lunacy" Jim Robinson)

quote:

To: PROCON

“The Narcissist-in Chief.”

Yes, and when things don’t go his way, he’s being victimized by us idiots.
This moron belongs in JAIL.
HOW DARE HE INSULT ORDINARY AMERICANS DAILY.
He can kiss my a$$....and so can his unhinged puppet, Hillary.


43 posted on 10/3/2016, 12:41:21 PM by doc maverick (I)

Well this is certainly something.

quote:

To: All

My belief is that there are two end times, one that happened in 1939-45 and led to a millennial kingdom, then another end time that will lead to a permanent kingdom.

I realize this is not accepted theology for many, but would say this — all of the events of the world war two era, including collaboration of beast (Nazi Germany) and whore of Babylon (USSR) followed by massive destruction, all came to pass in a very tight time frame similar to the double 3.5 year scenario. The world that then came into being included a state of Israel, a widespread surge of evangelical Christianity, and until the rise of militant Islam, considerable peace and prosperity. To an ancient observer transported forward (and this is how we got Revelations and Daniel) the modern world may have appeared kingdom-like. Then the final resolution of all this will be the “little season” when the chained up beast, dragon and false prophet come out to mount a final and doomed attempt to deny God the conclusive final victory.

In my scenario, Adolf Hitler was an antichrist figure of the first end time. My Babylon theory is bolstered by the fact that the Soviet Union had seven kings and then another who appeared different (Gorbachev) but turned out to be more of the same; then it shattered and disappeared. Perhaps Putin is more of a blend of kingdom and antichrist but in any case, I am not convinced that there is a second antichrist required but just the spirit of antichrist which is very evident in the world today, and of which Obama is a sort of poster child.

Like some of you, I could not accept that he has been quite as powerful or influential as one might expect an Antichrist to be; my question is always whether or not the “beast” is even meant to be a type of Antichrist or whether it refers instead to a state. Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union were about equally beast-like and were symbolized by two vicious beasts, the wolf and the bear.

I note that the current world is very much set up for a sudden appearance of Christ, the mystery of why there are both second coming and final throne imagery and two separate (by a millennium) end times could be resolved by all this and instead of a thousand years, it would be “of the millenium” instead, allowing this era to come to a merciful end much sooner than 2945 A.D. which would be the interpretation literally.

Of what I am more certain is this — Obama is a dangerous and pathological personality and should never have risen to the heights that he did without much more serious vetting which would have ended his bogus career. That’s what many Republicans really believe, I would guess, and in that, they are absolutely correct.

By the way, announcing all this right at the feast of trumpets? Hmm, there’s some more imagery to ponder. The feast of tabernacles begins at the full moon in two weeks. These high holy days are often thought to be likely timing for the end of days.


48 posted on 10/3/2016, 12:43:19 PM by Peter ODonnell (Pray for enlightenment and true justice in these times of mass delusion)

They're really reaching for some of these insults.

quote:

To: PROCON

The Bat-Eared Bolshevik is the “Affirmative Action Anti-Christ.” He’s not competent enough to be the real Anti-Christ, he just plays one on TV.


65 posted on 10/3/2016, 12:49:14 PM by TTFlyer

quote:

To: PROCON

look you little egotistical snit, we don’t think you’re anything other than a misfit who spent your life trying to instigate violence towards the country that treated you better than any other of the hellholes you lived in, a man who was not and never will be a natural born citizen. Begone with your sealed-records sad self.


86 posted on 10/3/2016, 12:58:29 PM by blueplum ((March 11, 2016 - the day the First Amendment died?))

quote:

To: PROCON

Umm, not me. I just think he’s a man-cild, wounded when young by a messed-up Marxist white mom named Stanley, a messed up white- and capitalist-hating black guy, their divorce, another new dad and life in muzzie Pakistan with dogburgers, their divorce, his mom abandoning him to her rich white Marxist drunk parents and their black whacko friend, his mom dying, trying to find his blackness (to Pakistan again), getting indoctrinated at Columbia U (HQ of Frankfurt School Marxist-socialists), being fawned over for his speaking voice, getting thug-training in Chicago with home-brewed terrorists Bill Ayers and wife, then being put into politics.


123 posted on 10/3/2016, 2:28:39 PM by polymuser (Enough is enough!)
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chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014
"Prosecute him!"

".....for doing his job legally and correctly?"

"PROSECUTE HIM"

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Samuel Clemens
Oct 4, 2013

I think we should call the Avengers.

 Does Freep have a thread in which they discuss new polls? Or have they given up on that now that Hillary is back to leading with a safe margin?

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WrenP-Complete
Jul 27, 2012

 I wish we could just host them here in a contained way.

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Lord Hydronium
Sep 25, 2007

Non, je ne regrette rien

chitoryu12 posted:

"Prosecute him!"

".....for doing his job legally and correctly?"

"PROSECUTE HIM"
Look, we can't have the justice system be politicized, which is why all who oppose Trump must be arrested.

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McGlockenshire
Dec 16, 2005

GOLLOCKS!

Samuel Clemens posted:

Does Freep have a thread in which they discuss new polls? Or have they given up on that now that Hillary is back to leading with a safe margin?

Freep threads rarely live for more than a few hours, so any polls get posted in new threads. Given that most of the polling is negative for Trump, there's also a disincentive to post them lately.

Even when they do get posted, there's a bunch of unskewing and picking at the numbers and calling it trash and attacking each other.

From Clinton Won Debate; Up In Florida, Down In Ohio, On Plus Side Of Close Races In,.. (trunc) posted by freeper SpeedyInTexas

quote:

To: Voluntaryist

Trump only getting 84% of REP and Clinton getting 92% of DEM in Florida is terrible. We need REP to support the nominee.

Also, Trump must win Independents by larger the 3%. Romney won by 5% in the exit polls. Trump needs Independents by 10%+.


13 posted on 10/3/2016, 12:11:21 PM by SpeedyInTexas

quote:

To: CatOwner

This is a push poll in the propaganda war. Tomorrow is coming !!!


15 posted on 10/3/2016, 12:13:08 PM by WENDLE (UNexit. Go TRUMP!!)

quote:

To: SpeedyInTexas

Dude, it’s just a stupid poll.

Some of you act like they are actually counting actual votes.

You have these surveys showing different results for the same states on the same day, but you then just sit their are stupidly scream what Trump needs to do based on them.

At some point I seriously wish people here would get a clue and stop living this election through this junk.


21 posted on 10/3/2016, 12:19:27 PM by VanDeKoik

quote:

To: SpeedyInTexas

Florida is nursing home, homeless shelter, and snowbird absentee ballot scam land.

The dems have the system wired. They neatly prevote for all the infirm and the homeless and deliver them in full containers to the elections office. They even save money on postage (also avoid mail fraud) due to the sheer volume.


31 posted on 10/3/2016, 12:29:07 PM by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)

quote:

To: SpeedyInTexas

“As I’ve been saying, going to be a close election”

Uh, yeah, right Noob: I looked at your less-than-two-weeks worth of posting history since you joined, and you’ve never once said this was “going to be a close election”.

Don’t know what your game is here, but we’re watching you.


33 posted on 10/3/2016, 12:30:05 PM by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)

quote:

To: SpeedyInTexas

Maurice Carroll, Director of Quinnipiac is a BIG time liberal Democrat.


45 posted on 10/3/2016, 12:45:12 PM by ZULU (Where the HELL ARE PAUL RYAN AND MITCH MCCONNELL ?????)

quote:

To: Voluntaryist

A 4.2 MOE??? Pure garbage.


71 posted on 10/3/2016, 2:39:20 PM by Lazamataz (MSM ignoring Hillary's health until forced, shows us they are the MPM: Ministry of Propaganda Media)
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CommissarMega
Nov 18, 2008

THUNDERDOME LOSER
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't a 4.2% margin of error really accurate, at least as these things go?

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WrenP-Complete
Jul 27, 2012

CommissarMega posted:

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't a 4.2% margin of error really accurate, at least as these things go?

It depends!
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/09/08/understanding-the-margin-of-error-in-election-polls/

It seems to be normal with regard to their polling, though I don't know QU at all.
https://www.qu.edu/news-and-events/quinnipiac-university-poll/2016-presidential-swing-state-polls/release-detail?ReleaseID=2384

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SocketWrench
Jul 8, 2012

by Fritz the Horse
Certainly isn't any worse than freep's poll with a 99% margin of error

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McGlockenshire
Dec 16, 2005

GOLLOCKS!
538 rates Quinnipiac as A- with an average 4.7 point average margin of error and a +0.7 Republican bias. They're probably fine.



FREEP WONDERS WHY DO SO MANY JEWS VOTE DEMOCRAT? POSTED BY FREEPER Sean_Anthony

Yeah it's in all caps like that.

No I don't know why.

It's another bullshit piece from Canada Free Press, which seems to do nothing but cover US right wing politics in the most horribly backwards way outside of Gateway Pundit and American "Thinker."

quote:

To: Sean_Anthony

They want a godless utopia. They have it in their head that a religious society is a tbreat to them.


2 posted on 10/3/2016, 7:30:59 AM by BRL

The Jews, God's Chosen People, want a godless utopia.

The Jews, God's Chosen People, think that a religious society is a threat tbreat to them.

:what:

Quoting from the article,

quote:

To: Sean_Anthony

those canny, clever, and successful Jews—but otherwise Biblically damned

WHAT????

5 posted on 10/3/2016, 7:31:23 AM by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)

Hey guys I think the Jews forgot the Holocaust

quote:

To: Sean_Anthony

The same reason after 6 million of them were extermination after being disarmed...

They still voted 75%+ for gun control poloticians.


6 posted on 10/3/2016, 7:32:12 AM by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)

quote:

To: BenLurkin

WHAT????

I know what he’s talking about.

I was shocked to find out, right here on FR, that a lot of people don’t know that “JeW” is a race AND “Jew” is a religion.

You can be a Jew but not be “Jewish”.


7 posted on 10/3/2016, 7:32:49 AM by Mr. Douglas (Today is your life. What are you going to do with it?)
So part of me wants to take the high road and assume he's talking about converted Jews or secular Jews or Jewish atheists, which are a thing. But this is freep, and he just brought up race, so...

quote:

To: Sean_Anthony

The ones I know think socialism is a good thing.

11 posted on 10/3/2016, 7:36:36 AM by Vaduz (women and children to be impacted the most.)

quote:

To: Sean_Anthony

Because they have completely forgotten what too much government power can do in a citizen’s life. Disgusting.


12 posted on 10/3/2016, 7:39:50 AM by Dr. Pritchett

quote:

To: Sean_Anthony

When there is a terrorist attack a lot of people say hey why don’t we see rallies and parades by the oh so famous, moderate Muslims?

well I have another question:

when liberal secular Jews try to take away our guns, why don’t we see conservative Jews tell those liberal secular commies from hell to shut up?

why instead is that job always given to some toy who is automatically then denounced as Nazi?

why don’t the real Jews shut them up?


14 posted on 10/3/2016, 7:42:33 AM by gaijin

Oh no, he typoed a word!

Freepers:

quote:

To: gaijin

Goy, not toy


15 posted on 10/3/2016, 7:44:03 AM by gaijin

quote:

To: Mr. Douglas

Jews drank the socialist koolaid in the 20th century.

As religious faith faded for Jews, they aggressively bought into worship of the state.

Jews have been overwhelming urban in the United States, and tend not to have any hunting or self defense roots.


16 posted on 10/3/2016, 7:44:53 AM by marktwain

This pause is here so you can unpack all of the implications in "tend not to have any hunting or self defense roots."

Also they're getting close with that whole "overwhelming[ly] urban" thing.

Maybe I underestimated freep?

No.

quote:

To: Sean_Anthony

Why do so many Christians vote demoncrat?


17 posted on 10/3/2016, 7:45:19 AM by Cold Heart

quote:

To: Sean_Anthony

I’m Jewish, and I’ve never voted for a Democrat in my life. And I never will. Of course most of my family hates me and will never talk to me, but then again I don’t want to have anything to do with them either. I’m living a pretty happy life and they are mostly miserable.


18 posted on 10/3/2016, 7:46:25 AM by RightInJersey

quote:

To: All

Because they see the republican party as the “christian” party...and they aren’t christians.


19 posted on 10/3/2016, 7:46:45 AM by escapefromboston (manny ortez: mvp)

Okay, maybe yes then. Freep can actually see a problem with the Republicans that's an actual legit concern!

I was beginning to think that freep would be horrible forever. I'm so glad tha-:stare:

quote:

To: Cold Heart

Because they are stupid.

20 posted on 10/3/2016, 7:47:28 AM by Berlin_Freeper

quote:

To: Sean_Anthony

Yawn.

Jews became Dems like any other immigrant group.

Jews have a seat at the Dem table and none at the GOP’s. Everyone hates Jews, not just Dems. If Jews didn’t participate where they weren’t liked, they could not participate at all. They just happened to have landed with Dems, and ‘paleoconservative’ GOPers have kept them there.


21 posted on 10/3/2016, 7:48:56 AM by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")

quote:

To: Sean_Anthony

Follow the money. Banks, Wall Street, and so on.


24 posted on 10/3/2016, 7:52:49 AM by sarasota

quote:

To: Sean_Anthony

It’s an oft-asked question to which there is no logical answer. It has something to do with 1: identifying with the “oppressed” or “shunned”, or downtrodden, a reasonably and understandably historically accurate position. Eg; the sense of “common cause”.

But the error, I believe, is an aspiration to righteousness which they believe is to be attained by empathizing with other downtrodden groups. That in and of itself is laudable, but in the process they overlook the notion that most of those downtrodden groups hate Jews even more than those who committed the Jew-shunning in the first place. IOW, they seek this path to righteousness to their own detriment, when the better path IMO would be to act as good examples: as the scientific, industrious, and clever culture-loving people they are capable of being. Not, by any means, that all of them/us are. Bell curve, like anything else.


26 posted on 10/3/2016, 8:00:18 AM by Attention Surplus Disorder (I had a cool idea for a new tagline and I forgot it!)

quote:

To: Sean_Anthony

These secular Jews are without G_d and have replaced Him with Man and government. This is always been fatal. However, they will never learn that an earthly Utopia is impossible. Call it hope over experience and it will bite you every time. Donkeys cannot be trusted; they are servants of the Dark Side [aka Evil[. Those that embrace Evil are doomed. The problem is these fools want to take the righteous with them on their way to destruction.

27 posted on 10/3/2016, 8:02:30 AM by MasterGunner01 ( To err is human, to forgive is not our policy. -- SEAL Team SIX:)

quote:

To: jjotto

Actually, most people don’t hate Jews. But many Jews feel like THEY are the oppressed ones.


30 posted on 10/3/2016, 8:06:03 AM by Theodore R. (Trump-Pence, 2016)

quote:

To: Sean_Anthony

Because they fear the power of Christians, ridiculous because Christians in the US are about as dangerous as grazing cows.


34 posted on 10/3/2016, 8:20:01 AM by txrefugee

quote:

To: Cold Heart

Why do so many Christians vote demoncrat?

They have been brainwashed by friends and the media entertainment complex to believe that conservatives are mean, hateful, selfish, dangerous....

35 posted on 10/3/2016, 8:21:46 AM by stayathomemom ( Read Shadow Men, The Progressive Virus, and The Marxist Playbook by Dr. Anthony Napoleon)

Okay, let's take a look at this list.

Are freepers mean? Objectively, yes.
Are freepers hateful? Objectively, yes.
Are freepers selfish? Hmm. I dunno.
Are freepers dangerous? They act like they are, but their ideas are more dangerous than they could ever act on.

Two out of four ain't bad on the projection scale, right?

Let's also unpack this one a bit.

quote:

To: Sean_Anthony

why do so many Jews vote democrat?

They are indoctrinated from birth to believe that altruism is the highest virtue and a duty commanded by God which they cannot disobey. Altruism is one of the foundational beliefs of libtardism and big government.

36 posted on 10/3/2016, 8:27:40 AM by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
So, uh, is he trying to diss altruism here, or ...?

quote:

To: Sean_Anthony

Hatried of Christianity seems to be the number one factor in the liberal Jews I’ve talked to. That’s also why Tim Tebow was drummed out if the NFL, liberal Jewish sports writers hated him for his open displays of Christianity and attacked him relentlessly.


38 posted on 10/3/2016, 8:29:30 AM by RedWulf (Trump:Front Lines. Obama: Back Nine. Hillary:Nap Time.)


quote:

To: Sean_Anthony

quote:

Western man towers over the rest of the world in ways so large as to be almost inexpressible. It's Western exploration, science, and conquest that have revealed the world to itself. Other races feel like subjects of western power long after colonialism, imperialism and slavery have disappeared. The charge of racism puzzles whites who feel not hostility, but only baffled good will, because they don't grasp what it really means: humiliation. The white man presents an image of superiority even when he isn't conscious of it. Superiority excites envy. Destroying white civilization is the most inmost desire of the league of designated victims we call "minorities." - Joseph Sobran 1997

Joe has an excellent point about the goal of minorities. White women can be added to the list.

Can one ask if Jews are anti-white as well? From Soros to Zuckerberg to JJ (Star Wars is too white) Abrams and etc(are there any powerful Jews for Trump?), and with all the DemocRat supporting Jews, I'm beginning to wonder.

41 posted on 10/3/2016, 8:37:26 AM by deadrock (I is someone else.)

quote:

To: Sean_Anthony

Why were so there so many Jews in the Communist and Spartacist Cadres? The obscene Nazi “Jewish Bolshevik” propaganda was not made up out of whole cloth, unfortunately.

I blame higher education.

If you look at history, most of this communist madness comes out of colleges and universities. People who ought to know better, for some reason seem to like communism.

And, if you look at colleges and universities, Jews will always be over-represented among both faculty and students. They value learning highly and work hard at it.

So, I chalk it up to the communicable madness of intellectuals and academics.


42 posted on 10/3/2016, 8:40:24 AM by Little Ray (Freedom Before Security!)

quote:

To: Sean_Anthony

For the same reason so many blacks do.


45 posted on 10/3/2016, 8:43:00 AM by Phlap (REDNECK@LIBARTS.EDU)

quote:

To: butlerweave

It’s been said the Catholicism dominates its believers’ lives and lifestyles to the extent that the yoke of communism easily slips over their heads, accustomed as they are to being told what to do. This is why, the story goes, no Protestant country has ever gone communist.


47 posted on 10/3/2016, 8:48:00 AM by sparklite2 (When they play the race card, play the Trump card.)

It actually took this long for an actual religious nut to come along. Amazing.

quote:

To: Sean_Anthony

Because they have a long history of ignoring what God has done for them and wouldn’t know what to do if they acted like they were in His special favor. Scorpions sting and Jews spit in God’s face.


48 posted on 10/3/2016, 8:48:12 AM by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)

quote:

To: Sean_Anthony

These question came up during a previous election cycle. It was answered by a Jewish FReeper whose handle I can't recall. He pointed out that secular Jews are not torah observant and most certainly are not awaiting a savior, so the focus of their religious or moral life is doing good deeds.

He concluded that in the estimation of secular Jews, the Democrats' socialism parallels their concept of good deeds whereas the Republicans' traditional position of individualism is essentially anathema to them.

I'm recalling this from 4 or possibly 8 years ago and he was much more knowledgeable on Jewish matters than I, a Catholic of Irish descent from a family with no claims to a long history of supporting Republicans.

49 posted on 10/3/2016, 8:49:42 AM by Oratam

I've never been more happy to see a football discussion on freep.

quote:

To: RedWulf

That’s also why Tim Tebow was drummed out if the NFL, liberal Jewish sports writers hated him for his open displays of Christianity and attacked him relentlessly.

Yeah, you know, except maybe because of his inability to read defenses, perceived lack of passing ability, persistent fumbles, and having the lowest passing completion rate in the league.

53 posted on 10/3/2016, 9:01:45 AM by sparklite2 (When they play the race card, play the Trump card.)

quote:

To: RightInJersey

Same here.

I think a lot of Jews vote democrat because they mostly live in and around the major cities where the democrats have monopolized civic life. In other words, they're voting for democrats like they're loyal fans of the local team, and they don't critically think about the issues...like most people.

56 posted on 10/3/2016, 9:24:40 AM by captain_dave

quote:

To: Sean_Anthony; ml/nj; ExTexasRedhead; TXRed; Hildy; monkeyshine; Zionist Conspirator; ...

From this Jewish perspective, this thing about Jews voting 'Rat is an addiction of sorts. No matter how bad the 'Rat pack gets in terms of policy threatening Jewish and Israel's survival and pandering to antisemitic elements within it, there are a good segment of Jews who somehow can't break their Democrat voting habit even though on some level they have to sense that it is self-destructive. Regrettably, not even the presence of a morally and ethically bankrupt Dem presidential candidate with an antisemitic history will change their voting behavior. Addictions defy rationality.

My guess is that Trump will get something like 40% of the Jewish vote nationally, when that difficult-to-determine number is measured with objectivity and impartiality. (Unfortunately in the past, Jewish voting for the 'Rats has often been somewhat overestimated by 'Rat leaning pollsters.) This will be about the highest percentage of Jewish votes for a Republican presidential candidate in close to a century.

I don't quite get the roulette analogy.

57 posted on 10/3/2016, 9:27:30 AM by justiceseeker93
Jews voted for Republicans at 25% in 2000, and then 20% in every presidential election after. A 40% rate for Trump would be absurd. According to this recent survey, it'll be about 20% again despite the alt-right.

quote:

To: justiceseeker93

Back in daBronx, registering as a Dem was as sacrosanct as Bar Mitzvahs and circumcisions. These were they days when the Dems actually stood for something, “we have nothing to fear but fear itself”, “the buck stops here”, “Ask not what your country can do for you”. My parents were Dems, but switched parties around the same time Pres. Reagan did, and for the same reason, they didn’t leave the party the party left them. Years later, when I was a member of the Young Republicans in Rockland Cty, the Rep committee chairman, also Jewish put it perspective when he told me Jews have a self destructive tendency to embrace those who screw us and screw those who embrace us. Wasserman’s-Schultz’ justification for supporting the Iran nuke deal with a “Jewish heart” is a classic example. Where, oh where in the Torah does it say we are obligated to enable our enemies?


58 posted on 10/3/2016, 9:44:49 AM by Impala64ssa (You call me an islamophobe like it's a bad thing.)

quote:

To: justiceseeker93; sheik yerbouty; vette6387; flat; unkus; mazda77; HarleyLady27; Liz; ...

I have heard stories that a handful of Jews escaped the camps and went back to warn others and they were not believed.

I shake my head at the naivete and stupidity and I’m ashamed for them! In my opinion, any Jew who votes for Hillary knowing she’s antisemitic and supported Arafat and loathes Israel is “not” a Jew and will one day face God with their treason against their own kind and Israel!!

How many Catholics voted for Zero knowing his support of late-term abortions and infanticide and then invited him to speak at Notre Dame? I haven’t read threads or seen comments about how many Catholics forsake their faith or beliefs when they voted for Zero!!


61 posted on 10/3/2016, 9:57:10 AM by ExTexasRedhead

quote:

To: justiceseeker93

There are three main reasons:

1) So many Jews vote Democrat because so many are ....liberal. Yeah, it’s shockingly that simple. If one supports abortion, the LGBTQXYZ agenda, open borders, multiculturalism, income redistribution in the form of a massive welfare state, strict gun control (and in many cases gun confiscation), etc....then to which party is one going to align oneself?

2) Lib Jews falsely equate nationalism to Nazism, and therefore are reflexively repelled by it. And since Republicans are perceived as having far more nationalistic sentiments than Dems, the resulting equation for them becomes .....the GOP = The Third Reich. That’s a very tough emotional hurdle for them to overcome.

3) Most lib Jews don’t give a rat’s patootie about Israel, although they’ll often (out of guilt) give lip service supporting Her. And these days (after years of conservative Bibi being the PM) a disconcerting number of lib Jews have grown to DESPISE Israel. My dumbazz aunt is one of them.

I’d love to see Trump get 40% of the Jewish vote (like Reagan did in 1980), but I’m afraid it’ll be closer to 20%.


63 posted on 10/3/2016, 10:00:18 AM by Mr. Mojo

quote:

To: Sean_Anthony

WHY DO SO MANY JEWS VOTE DEMOCRAT?

1) Ignorance.

2) Stupidity.

3) Evil intent.

4) Some combination of these.

Same reason as anybody who votes for demonicRATs.

66 posted on 10/3/2016, 10:05:04 AM by NorthMountain (Hillary Clinton: corrupt unreliable negligent traitor)

quote:

To: Mr. Mojo

So many Jews vote Democrat because so many are ....liberal. Yeah, it’s shockingly that simple.

It really is that simple, at least from my experiences. I mentioned my family in an earlier post. I rarely speak with them or see them with a few exceptions. What I do know is that the ones with small children are training them to be liberals. They’re brainwashing their little children and filling their heads with all kinds of wild ideas, and they’re also teaching them that anyone who disagrees with them is a monster. Then the kids go to school in NYC and get the same message from their teachers. That’s how it happens. These people are bullies who think everyone who doesn’t share their feelings is bullying them, and that’s what they’re teaching their children to be too.

70 posted on 10/3/2016, 10:17:40 AM by RightInJersey

quote:

To: Sean_Anthony

I need the Not this Stuff Again guy, on Rosh Hashana too.

The Jacoby quote at the end gets the closest to nailing it. The comfort of secular life, moral equality, evil is guns and global warming.

But as I always do, on the micro, I answer this question like this: each liberal Jew (Jew Lite - they eat bacon and shrimp, they don’t go to synagogue, they love bagels and kugel and a few Yiddish words and call it a day) is kept on the reservation by their friends and relatives. They are brutal if you stray. There is biting sarcasm and ostracism. Pointed, horrible questions like “Are you a racist?” Etc at family gatherings. The pressure to conform to the group is INSANE. And that’s is the real reason.

Liberal Jews look down on the Orthodox. If one of their own lackadaisical Jewish relatives starts to become more shomer Shabbat, more religious, they start to belittle and shun. They want people like them around. It’s like beer drinkers when one of them starts to avoid alcohol. The Jew trying to be Jewish makes them feel bad about their bacon cheeseburgers!

Trust me, I know. I’ve been “that Jew.” It is so difficult to come out of the closet in that community. I’m about to go to services at a new liberal synagogue here where we have moved. And only because my child goes to their preschool am I a member. The preschool is awesome. But no one there knows I am a - gasp - Trump supporter. And they would all change their feeling aBout me should it be known. And even I, who am bold on many occasions, am feeling like maybe I just don’t want to get into any discussions on politics and be put in the category of evil racist. Maybe I just don’t need those looks, that ostracism right now. It’s hard.

I know black and Latino conservatives go through the same drat thing.

Hoping today the rabbi won’t say anything cringeworthy re politics. I sure miss Dennis’s Prager’s High Holiday services (though he is 100% apolitical at them, you know at least he is a conservative) but being a member here, we have to $ave. High Holiday tickets are expensive.


71 posted on 10/3/2016, 10:19:47 AM by Yaelle

quote:

To: txrefugee

Because they fear the power of Christians, ridiculous because Christians in the US are about as dangerous as grazing cows.

Unfortunately, many American Jews still believe in their hearts those things (accurately) told them by their grandparents from before immigrating from Europe. Back then, Christians were not as kind as they are now, in the USA. And it's only been 2 or 3 generations since Jews found themselves unwelcome by society in general here in the USA.

But for some reason, it seems that Jews in general seem to have an irrational belief that "the government" will keep them safe. When in so many cases, it's the government that is organized against the Jews.

This isn't an excuse, but it is something of an explanation: Jews tend to have a historically rational fear of other religions, as well as a historically irrational belief that the government will protect them. Plus, an almost genetic "rooting for the underdog," which explains the recent abandonment of Israel, in favor of the palis.

76 posted on 10/3/2016, 11:25:21 AM by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)

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To: escapefromboston

It’s amazing the number of liberal Jews I know who are utterly convinced that if some evangelic Republican gets power, he/she Republican will start conducting pogroms!

Also there will be forced “Christianization” of Jewish kids in school as well as other utterly irrational statements.

I remember one time bursting out laughing when I heard one say this with complete seriousness.

This nuttiness is almost like ‘Articles of Faith’ with them.


83 posted on 10/3/2016, 2:49:53 PM by Reily
Do they not listen to their own loving rhetoric? You're the same backwards, culturally ignorant, intolerant bigots that lament that public schools can't teach the Chrisitian Bible. gently caress off.

I mean seriously look at this poo poo. Do they just ignore the same religious blithering that comes out of each other's mouths?

quote:

To: Reily

One of my 2 best friends' (Jewish) brother, a very intelligent learned and accomplished man, asked me (Non evangelical Christian)in all seriousness whether all Christians believe in an End of Days where all Jews are enticed to or forcibly returned to Israel, which becomes Judenrein during a Rapture which can't start until they arrive, because that is what Evangelicals believe. HTH can you counter or answer that kind of ingrained thinking?

87 posted on 10/3/2016, 4:04:53 PM by Phil DiBasquette

quote:

To: Reily; Yaelle; ml/nj; ExTexasRedhead; pabianice; Impala64ssa; MarkL; shalom aleichem; ...

It’s amazing the number of liberal Jews I know who are utterly convinced that if some evangelic Republican gets power, he/she Republican will start conducting pogroms!

Looking at it from my particular Jewish perspective, I would agree that such concerns are irrational. Historical experience tells us that not that long ago we had an evangelical Republican in the White House for eight years, and nothing of the sort happened.

There is much more of a threat of violent antisemitism from three groups that the Democrats pander to - Moslems, radical African-Americans (e.g., Black Lives Matter), and radical Hispanics (e.g., La Raza) - than from evangelical Republicans.

91 posted on 10/3/2016, 5:03:33 PM by justiceseeker93
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WrenP-Complete
Jul 27, 2012

 Oh. my. G-d. There is so much research on this question. But no, just speculate your anti-Semitic ideas. :allears:

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Jagged Jim
Sep 26, 2013

I... I can only look though the window...

Geostomp posted:

I'm surprised they didn't go full on Klan rally like I expected this time and actually questioned the validity of a story. They didn't disappoint as much as I thought they would.

I should point out that Milk Crate Guy is white.

McGlockenshire posted:

FREEP WONDERS WHY DO SO MANY JEWS VOTE DEMOCRAT? POSTED BY FREEPER Sean_Anthony

I love how all it takes for Freep to drop the mask and go right into "Protocols of the Elders of Zion" territory is to point out that Jews vote overwhelmingly Democratic.

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isildur
May 31, 2000

BattleDroids: Flashpoint OH NO! Dekker! IS DOWN! THIS IS Glitch! Taking Command! THIS IS Glich! Taking command! OH NO! Glitch! IS DOWN! THIS IS Medusa! Taking command! THIS IS Medusa! Taking command! OH NO! Medusa IS DOWN!

Soon to be part of the Battletech Universe canon.

McGlockenshire posted:

Let's play the Kit Cat game! These are all from the same thread.

Every time i see this, it warms my cold dead heart to know that i've made some small contribution to the freep thread.

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Twelve by Pies
May 4, 2012

Again a very likpatous story

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Jews became Dems like any other immigrant group.

Gee, that sure is weird! I wonder why every immigrant group seems to vote mostly Democrat? Could it be because that's the party that isn't going "gently caress IMMIGRANTS!" at the top of their lungs? Is it possible that maybe if the Republicans embraced immigration more, that more immigrants might vote for them?

Nah they must just all be racist against whites.

quote:

But the error, I believe, is an aspiration to righteousness which they believe is to be attained by empathizing with other downtrodden groups. That in and of itself is laudable, but in the process they overlook the notion that most of those downtrodden groups hate Jews even more than those who committed the Jew-shunning in the first place. IOW, they seek this path to righteousness to their own detriment

"Ignore the plight of the downtrodden and oppressed, because it's unsafe to empathize with them, save your own lives at the expense of others." - something Jesus would have said.

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They are indoctrinated from birth to believe that altruism is the highest virtue and a duty commanded by God which they cannot disobey.

THE BIBLE LITERALLY SAYS THAT YOU EVIL IGNORANT poo poo. I know he's talking about Jews who don't accept the New Testament but even the Old Testament says that too.

quote:

The obscene Nazi “Jewish Bolshevik” propaganda was not made up out of whole cloth, unfortunately.

"You know, maybe the Nazis were right about the Jews!" - Freep

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Jay Rust
Sep 27, 2011

 And I thought anti-Semitism was the one thing Freep didn't have :stare:

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tacodaemon
Nov 27, 2006



 Oh lordy, Webb Hubbell... I remember Hubbell being the flimsy excuse that Kenneth Starr used to expand his Whitewater inquiry to include Monica Lewinsky so that he could get Bill Clinton impeached

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Islam is the Lite Rock FM
Jul 27, 2007

by exmarx

Jay Rust posted:

And I thought anti-Semitism was the one thing Freep didn't have :stare:

Nope they just like Israel since it's needed to bring jeezus back.

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McGlockenshire
Dec 16, 2005

GOLLOCKS!

Twelve by Pies posted:

THE BIBLE LITERALLY SAYS THAT YOU EVIL IGNORANT poo poo. I know he's talking about Jews who don't accept the New Testament but even the Old Testament says that too.
Yeah but there's also the segment of Christians that believe you get salvation by faith alone, not also through good works.



From Female Contestants on "The Apprentice" Now Accusing Trump posted by freeper Catsrus

In case you missed this one from the morning's news cycle,

the article posted:

The Associated Press interviewed more than 20 people — former crew members, editors and contestants — who described crass behavior by Trump behind the scenes of the long-running hit show, in which aspiring capitalists were given tasks to perform as they competed for jobs working for him.
[...]
Eight former crew members recalled that he repeatedly made lewd comments about a camerawoman he said had a nice rear, comparing her beauty to that of his daughter, Ivanka.

During one season, Trump called for female contestants to wear shorter dresses that also showed more cleavage, according to contestant Gene Folkes. Several cast members said Trump had one female contestant twirl before him so he could ogle her figure.
[...]
A former crew member who signed a non-disclosure agreement and asked not to be identified, recalled that Trump asked male contestants whether they would sleep with a particular female contestant, then expressed his own interest.

"We were in the boardroom one time figuring out who to blame for the task, and he just stopped in the middle and pointed to someone and said, 'You'd f*** her, wouldn't you? I'd f*** her. C'mon, wouldn't you?'"

Bad news? Shoot the messenger!

quote:

To: Catsrus

NBC is so in the tank for Hillary, I can’t even listen to them anymore.

2 posted on 10/3/2016, 2:07:53 PM by mrs9x

I mean, they're not really wrong here

quote:

To: Catsrus

Yep, the tax evasion meme has run its course. On to the next BS story the MSM will spew out and Trump will have to defend for the next day or two.


4 posted on 10/3/2016, 2:08:26 PM by CatOwner

This one can be read both pro and anti Trump

quote:

To: Catsrus

Anyone who thought this stuff wasn’t going to come out is naive.

There is going to be a steady stream of it from now until the election. Hope everybody has a strong stomach because it’s going to be brutal.


7 posted on 10/3/2016, 2:09:29 PM by randita

Uhhh

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To: Mjreagan

At what point does someone snap and decide to take matters into their own hands? Seriously, the campaign being run by Hillary and the DEMs is taking this country down further than I thought possible. Worse than Obama.


8 posted on 10/3/2016, 2:10:16 PM by CatOwner

quote:

To: Mjreagan

Steel ourselves for what?

this is old news being rehashed.

I’ll steel myself for civil war if she wins.

not for the nonsense.

women already know what he said or did. They’re not gonna vote based on any more information regarding this nonsense unless it is devastating.

meanwhile the fbi let two clinton lawyers destroy their PCs


11 posted on 10/3/2016, 2:10:47 PM by dp0622 (IThe only thing an upper crust conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)

quote:

To: randita

The upside to all of this (maybe I am being wishful in my thinking here) is that it really has a pathetic optic with it being wheeled out now. People who would really change their vote based on this sort of claptrap really do deserve Hitlery and the epic disappointment she will be in office.


17 posted on 10/3/2016, 2:12:30 PM by OttawaFreeper ("If I had to go to war again, I'd bring lacrosse players" Conn Smythe)

Freep beliefs: sexual harassment in the workplace is A-OK!

quote:

To: Catsrus

I’m shocked that a hetero man would talk about a woman’s breasts!!

Keep in mind these whiny women who think a man shouldn’t look at women or comment about them sexually have no problem with men in women’s restrooms with little girls.

Morally bankrupt.


22 posted on 10/3/2016, 2:16:02 PM by No Socialist

Freep beliefs: it's perfectly acceptable for men to sexually haraass women

quote:

To: Catsrus

“said he rated female contestants by the size of their breasts and talked about which ones he’d like to have sex with.”

What man, what woman, what voter would dare to think that men think and talk that way. How uniquely crass and evil he is.


25 posted on 10/3/2016, 2:22:26 PM by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)

I don't even

quote:

To: mrs9x

Sounds like NBC is almost resigning himself to a Trump win. If he lost I still think we would eventually see NBC go to Trump with their hat in their hand begging him to do another Apprentice. The money and ratings were too good for them.


27 posted on 10/3/2016, 2:23:11 PM by Hillarys Gate Cult

Freep beliefs: they dress like whores so it's fine to degrade them

quote:

To: No Socialist

And these are women who are most cases dressed like trash boobs out, hooker shoes which is mainstream now. If you don’t want someone to look at your boobs don’t have em hanging out.


29 posted on 10/3/2016, 2:25:31 PM by funfan

Freep beliefs: everyone disagrees with me, am I wrong? No, everyone else is.

quote:

To: mrs9x

EVERY so-called News Organization is in the tank for Hillary Clinton..the American people know that and that is why the media has no viewers, everyone knows their agenda


31 posted on 10/3/2016, 2:25:47 PM by Sarah Barracuda

Freep beliefs: sexual harassment should still be normalized and accepted by society

quote:

To: No Socialist

Keep in mind these whiny women who think a man shouldn’t look at women or comment about them sexually have no problem with men in women’s restrooms with little girls.

Excellent point! It’s complete and total hypocrisy, as well as a lack of common sense, judgment, and proportion.


32 posted on 10/3/2016, 2:27:04 PM by proud American in Canada (May God Bless the U.S.A. (Trump, said on 9-28: Hillary 'will put the Oval Office up for sale')

quote:

To: Catsrus

It probably wasn’t too difficult to find unionized members of the crew who would trash Trump. I mean, they do have their orders.


40 posted on 10/3/2016, 2:32:59 PM by Oratam

quote:

To: Catsrus

For crying out loud. Is there a heterosexual male out there that doesn’t talk like this? Don’t women talk about men this way too?


64 posted on 10/3/2016, 3:22:50 PM by willk (everyone)
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WrenP-Complete
Jul 27, 2012

 Like I alluded to before, there's a bunch of academic attention to (even ultra Orthodox communities) Jewish voting D as a block, with some rare exceptions, and I can link some academic and lay stuff tomorrow. For now I'm phone posting in bed to enjoy pre sleep schadenfreude.

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