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I mostly use Asahi in the endgame. Free healing is actions not spent having a demon heal, free smirks can be incredibly powerful if Nanashi or Matador is the recipient, and not having debilitate means the bosses are less likely to freak out and purge buffs/debuffs for hitting +/- 3. The only partner I haven't liked at all is Gaston, the instant he stole all 4 of my press turns in a random battle was the moment he never got to leave the bench. Einwand fucked around with this message at 14:01 on Oct 4, 2016 |
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I used Navarre for roughly 80% of the game and then Toki for the rest. Instant kills made annoying 3x hordes a breeze as well as sealing/def downing bosses ontop of the free damage 1-2 times a turn.
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Einwand posted:I mostly use Asahi in the endgame. Free healing is actions not spent having a demon heal, free smirks can be incredibly powerful if Nanashi or Matador is the recipient, and not having debilitate means the bosses are less likely to freak out and purge buffs/debuffs for hitting +/- 3. Gaston is great when it comes to dealing with Shesha and for anything else I just leave him on the bench. In the end the partners I used were either Asahi for bosses as she allowed me to not worry about healing and Toki for anything else as her ability to deal with random encounters is amazing.
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Oct 4, 2016 14:30
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I don't think I've ever had Toki as my partner, but hearing that she deletes hordes intrigues me because those are pretty much the only enemies I consistently encounter anymore.
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Oct 4, 2016 15:00
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TurnipFritter posted:I don't think I've ever had Toki as my partner, but hearing that she deletes hordes intrigues me because those are pretty much the only enemies I consistently encounter anymore. When a horde reinforcement shows up it counts as a fresh turn so her instant kill chance rerolls and you can end up having her destroy them before you even spend any resources, it's super handy.
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Oct 4, 2016 15:06
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TurnipFritter posted:I don't think I've ever had Toki as my partner, but hearing that she deletes hordes intrigues me because those are pretty much the only enemies I consistently encounter anymore. she does, i've run around with her as assist while clearing side quests and her kill triggers quite often, cuts down on time spent doing these missions estoma probably would too but i'm lazy
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Oct 4, 2016 15:07
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Yeah, once I got Toki she never left my side during random battles because she utterly trivializes them
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Oct 4, 2016 15:54
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Do we know what DLC is hitting today?
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Ibram Gaunt posted:Do we know what DLC is hitting today? Cleopatra and Mephisto Bonus battles. Extra Difficulty Levels And apparently some mission where we have to murder everyone in Mikado for becoming demons.
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I feel like they sort of underplayed the characters reaching the surface and seeing the sky. That should have been this huge "HOLY poo poo" moment like when the Samurai first saw Tokyo in SMT4, but they just kinda went "Oh well the sky is really big!" and moved on. It felt like the characters in Persona 4 were more impressed by the sky after the December dungeon than the characters were here.
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Oct 4, 2016 16:42
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That was more of a surprise for the player anyway. The sky was already revealed during shesha's video.
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Oct 4, 2016 17:07
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Another thing I like about the partner system: you can have a party of NPCs who all talk to each other for plot reasons yet the gameplay can still revolve around you and your team of demons. Before you were going around more or less solo or with just one person for large stretches.
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Pureauthor posted:Cleopatra and Mephisto Bonus battles. Anyone know what the difficulty levels actually change?
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Cleopatra is tough as h*ck
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TastyLemonDrops posted:Anyone know what the difficulty levels actually change? I've heard apocalypse brings back everyone's favorite "MC dies, instant Game Over" deal, but other than that, no idea. Probably just generic scale up/down.
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Supremezero posted:I've heard apocalypse brings back everyone's favorite "MC dies, instant Game Over" deal, but other than that, no idea. Probably just generic scale up/down. I've started a new game on this difficulty, and while I haven't died yet, I'm definitely doing less damage overall. Also, the demon compendium is actually cheaper than on War. I'm assuming this is to help make up for the difficulty increase by letting you customize demons more freely.
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the more expensive compendium is lame and I just drop the difficulty to fuse
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Cake Attack posted:the more expensive compendium is lame and I just drop the difficulty to fuse
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I had an incredible battle where my entire team was wiped except for the last demon which had Endure to stay at 1HP. It used Sameracarm on my MC, I got another press turn I kept Bad Company on him the entire game waiting for this to happen  summoned an entirely fresh demon team back from literally 1HP on one demon.
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myriad arrows is definitely a better choice then grand tack, right?
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So, I'm having trouble with finding a spot. It's this National Park Farm Security quest. I can't find the farm or the people. Is it in the water park place? The north one? Aerofallosov fucked around with this message at 01:11 on Oct 5, 2016 |
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Aerofallosov posted:So, I'm having trouble with finding a spot. Shinjuku National Park.
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Supremezero posted:Shinjuku National Park. The one I go to on the world map? I ran all over it and didn't find them. Maybe I'll do another lap...
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When you enter the park just keep on walking forwards.
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Hunt11 posted:When you enter the park just keep on walking forwards. Oh wow. Got it. I feel dumb.  Thank you! And wow. That's uh. Quite a scene.
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Aerofallosov posted:Oh wow. Got it. I feel dumb. I felt just as stupid when I repeatedly failed to find the spot which was quite literally right in front of me.
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This weeks DLC was eh. Beach antics were kinda funny but not 3 dollars funny. The Mikado time trial thing was interesting but not worth it either I don't think. Haven't touched Cleo. The information DLC also was a whole lot of nothing. Ibram Gaunt fucked around with this message at 03:51 on Oct 5, 2016 |
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Oct 5, 2016 03:41
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Ibram Gaunt posted:This weeks DLC was eh. Beach antics were kinda funny but not 3 dollars funny. The Mikado time trial thing was interesting but not worth it either I don't think. Haven't touched Cleo. Well, it cost a whole lot of nothing, so it evens out, I suppose.
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Well, the "Observation Explained" writeup is kind of a letdown. I was expecting something that took on the whole "rationalizing phenomena such that they get anthropomorphized as demons" and "demons steering human perceptions for their own ideological ends" tangents alluded to in-game in more depth, but then the second half just goes off on its own spiel about language and that just decouples all credibility from any internal sense it might make. There isn't even a tongue to be had in-cheek on the "we're bleeping YHVH's spoken name because it's theologically quantum/Orthodox Jewish scholars might flip their lids" front, and I can't make any jokes about Babel/Devil Survivor 1 at large because I'm too busy imagining a wheelchair-ridden Tayama popping out to further lecture Nanashi about "DEMONIC ARCHAEA" or somesuch.
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Andy Waltfeld posted:Well, the "Observation Explained" writeup is kind of a letdown. I was expecting something that took on the whole "rationalizing phenomena such that they get anthropomorphized as demons" and "demons steering human perceptions for their own ideological ends" tangents alluded to in-game in more depth, but then the second half just goes off on its own spiel about language and that just decouples all credibility from any internal sense it might make. I thought bleeping YHVH's name was because it's unpronounceable. Because that's part of the point of the weird spelling. It's not a word that people can comprehend.
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TastyLemonDrops posted:Anyone know what the difficulty levels actually change? Damage scaling, MC dies ＝ game over, game cheats more often (miss chance increases)
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Supremezero posted:I thought bleeping YHVH's name was because it's unpronounceable. Because that's part of the point of the weird spelling. It's not a word that people can comprehend. The 'weird spelling' is because ancient Hebrew does not write vowels and the Tetragrammaton is יהוה (read right to left), the letters yod he waw he. YHVH. It's usually accepted as being pronounced Yahweh if you want to actually say it. Prism fucked around with this message at 16:55 on Oct 5, 2016 |
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Aerofallosov posted:Oh wow. Got it. I feel dumb. Won anyway. Turns out 700+ hp and phys resist kinda makes the Girimehkalas unable to do much  Navarre MVP.
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Supremezero posted:I thought bleeping YHVH's name was because it's unpronounceable. Because that's part of the point of the weird spelling. It's not a word that people can comprehend. Prism posted:The 'weird spelling' is because ancient Hebrew does not write vowels and the Tetragrammaton is יהוה (read right to left), the letters yod he waw he. YHVH. i think what he's getting at is the word is literally unpronounceable; not "i don't know how to say Yahweh" and more "this word is completely stricken from my and everyone's lexicon and manifests as a record scratch everytime i try to say "Yahweh"
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I thought it was kind of lame that It wasn't able to be said when you're denying his divinity to show that he no longer has any power over humanity and his name is no longer sacred. But no one bothers saying it during his fight RIP.
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boy are my arms tired posted:i think what he's getting at is the word is literally unpronounceable; not "i don't know how to say Yahweh" and more "this word is completely stricken from my and everyone's lexicon and manifests as a record scratch everytime i try to say "Yahweh" Fair enough. I'm not very far in Apocalypse yet, I got distracted with DQ7 and finishing Trails of Cold Steel, so I haven't seen it used much in-game yet.
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is there any sort of neutral route, or is it purely friends vs. john galt
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boy are my arms tired posted:i think what he's getting at is the word is literally unpronounceable; not "i don't know how to say Yahweh" and more "this word is completely stricken from my and everyone's lexicon and manifests as a record scratch everytime i try to say "Yahweh" I can't go so far as to say "literally unpronounceable" given humans throw around the record scratch like nothing during the Misoka Moon kickoff on Bonds Route but basically this with shades of assorted "confoundings" of human tongues and capabilities in the Old Testament and a dash of MGS2/MGSV for unintended topicality.
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Cake Attack posted:is there any sort of neutral route, or is it purely friends vs. john galt they are both the neutral route. the chaos and law "routes" end the game early.
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