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What would the fan reaction be if Affleck announces that in a surprising turn of events he has cast Joseph Gordon-Levitt in the role of Batman?
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I was reading through some old pages of this thread and I don't think was answered:Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Everything about the atmosphere of Luke Cage looks great and I love that they got the guy who plays Remy from House of Cards to be the Kingpin. It turns out Luke not only immediately promises to pay for the window and refuses to take the money the shop owners offer him for saving them, he later returns and hands them a wad of cash to pay for a new window.
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Oct 4, 2016 07:05
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I am sure this has been discussed to death already, but I saw the Ultimate Edition BvS thing a couple of weeks ago, and one thing I didn't quite catch watching the theatrical version is the theme of fatherhood. Snyder ain't exactly subtle about drawing thematic parental links between the characters, but I can't quite get a grip on what he's trying to say with this. The most obvious one is Superman being linked to Thomas Wayne, both in the infamous Martha scene, but also during his funeral, where the imagery of the cannon shells is similar to the bullet casings dropping during the Wayne murders. The death of his father gave birth to the Batman, and the death of Superman resulted in the Rebirth of Batman. But he also draws links between Superman and Lex's father. Lex implies that he viewed his father as all-powerful, and it is implied he views Superman through the same lens.This is contrasted when Superman steps into save Lex from the fists of an abomination. In fact, his obsession with discrediting Superman strikes me as an attempt by Lex to conquer his childhood demons, he sees his father in Superman, and by confronting and discrediting him he is by proxy confronting his father? The problem here is that Lex, while clearly hating his father, also left his office entirely undisturbed, and explains it as "a childish" idea that maybe he'll come back one day if he leaves it as is. There's also a weird third instance of a father-son link, and that's between Luthor and Doomsday. Lex uses his own blood along with Zods body to give life to Doomsday, surely that's not a coincidence. What I don't get is why Lex is crying when he is starting the process. Why is he emotional, why does this mean so much to him? Also isn't it weird he describes his father as an abomination and it turns out his proverbial son is a monster as well? What do ya'll think?
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Oct 4, 2016 14:04
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McCloud posted:There's also a weird third instance of a father-son link, and that's between Luthor and Doomsday. Lex uses his own blood along with Zods body to give life to Doomsday, surely that's not a coincidence. What I don't get is why Lex is crying when he is starting the process. Why is he emotional, why does this mean so much to him? Also isn't it weird he describes his father as an abomination and it turns out his proverbial son is a monster as well?
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Oct 4, 2016 14:07
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Halloween Jack posted:Lex is actually trying to recreate his father--there's a hidden reference when he says "God didn't save me from Daddy's fists..." and moments after he creates Doomsday, Superman saves him from being crushed by its fist. I'd never considered Doomsday as Luthor's son, but there's no reason that can't also be true. But that's what I don't get. Why? I mean he hates his dad, doesn't he?
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Oct 4, 2016 14:25
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McCloud posted:Also isn't it weird he describes his father as an abomination and it turns out his proverbial son is a monster as well? Thats the cycle of abuse for ya. Lex feels like an character motivated by despair, pain and the relationship with his dad more than a search for pure power.He's projecting his anxiety over his abuse on the single most powerful being on the planet."Power can not be innocent".He's reliving the powerlessness that felt as a child,back then the most powerful figure in his world abused him, now he will fight superman because how can be superman good?.Doomsday is just second generation damaged goods.Lex is going to be fathering a pained creature with the only goal of destroying his space dad.He is doing the same thing his father did yo him to his son.He's become his father. It makes sense he was capable of manipulating superman and batman as both are completely obsessed and extremely marked by their fathers. hump day bitches! fucked around with this message at 17:27 on Oct 4, 2016 |
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Oct 4, 2016 14:35
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McCloud posted:But that's what I don't get. Why? I mean he hates his dad, doesn't he? Smallville gets a bad rep, and for good reason, but it's also the only form of media that I am aware of that explored Lex's relationship with his father. Regardless of the quality of the show, the actor's playing Lex and Lex's father Lionel did a really good job
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Oct 4, 2016 16:14
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So the cinema I frequent has a 15 minute "unique IMAX 3D preview" for Dr Strange called Expand Your Mind next Tuesday. It's free and you get a poster afterwards. I think that's the first time I've seen a marketing event like that happen there. Not that I'm going. I'm looking forward to the movie, but I'd rather not spoil myself any further at this point. Edit: It's at 18:00 too. I guess they're hoping people will line it up with an early evening showing of a different movie? Mierenneuker fucked around with this message at 16:20 on Oct 4, 2016 |
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Oct 4, 2016 16:17
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McCloud posted:But that's what I don't get. Why? I mean he hates his dad, doesn't he? he hates his dad having power over him, so creating something all-powerful and making it subservient to him is a way of conquering his dad also i'm surprised your original post didn't bring up the 'superman talking to his dead dad' vision
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Oct 4, 2016 16:23
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Ben Affleck says BvS is the biggest hit of his career.
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Oct 4, 2016 18:23
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Mierenneuker posted:So the cinema I frequent has a 15 minute "unique IMAX 3D preview" for Dr Strange called Expand Your Mind next Tuesday. It's free and you get a poster afterwards. I think that's the first time I've seen a marketing event like that happen there.
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Oct 4, 2016 18:50
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I would have to imagine it is, financially. I mean what other real blockbusters does he have? Not Paycheck. (I liked paycheck though, it's so dumb and fun)
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Oct 4, 2016 18:53
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greatn posted:I would have to imagine it is, financially. I mean what other real blockbusters does he have? Not Paycheck. (I liked paycheck though, it's so dumb and fun) Gone Girl made a fair chunk of change. Everything else is sub $200 million though I think. e: Pearl Harbor and Armageddon too I guess.
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Oct 4, 2016 18:58
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greatn posted:I would have to imagine it is, financially. I mean what other real blockbusters does he have? Not Paycheck. (I liked paycheck though, it's so dumb and fun) Good Will Hunting?
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Oct 4, 2016 18:58
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hump day bitches! posted:Thats the cycle of abuse for ya. Then Superman sacrifices himself to kill Lex's son, thus ending another cycle of violence.
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Oct 4, 2016 19:00
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That's the cycle of abuse for ya. jk I genuinely had a lot of fun watching BvS
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Oct 4, 2016 19:13
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lHkVFmEZNU What's the original source for this; I'm kinda curious about the answer he's started to give? quote:As far as critics are concerned, he says they mostly took issue with the film's dark tone. Suicide Squad just suffered. 
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Oct 5, 2016 00:31
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Drifter posted:This is actually mostly true. It's a movie better written, better shot, with more interesting themes to explore than most modern comic book movies, and it was basically the whole Not My Superhero crowd trying to poo poo on it. At least after the Ultimate Edition came out, which enhanced the movie by giving certain things more depth. The original ws kinda cool in an experimental way, but suffered at times. There's also a certain contingent who really heavily judge films by plot over anything else, and take away points when things aren't super explicit (how Batman got back to Gotham in DKR), don't make sense to them (Lex's Africa plot in BvS) or when things aren't "tactically realistic" ("Batman should have made a Kryptonite bullet and hid in a lead room" etc). And I'm not even saying those are bad things to critique, and it's certainly a matter of preference how important you rate those things. I don't get hung up too much on plot myself because I go to big superhero blockbusters for the spectacle and fights, and BvS had the most payoff in that department for me, so I could care less about how logically consistent it was (although I don't think it's remotely as bad as a lot of people think).
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Oct 5, 2016 00:42
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Drifter posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lHkVFmEZNU His answer is just that in the parody video. After Henry gives his long winded answer, Ben just goes "I agree." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_OGe7l-WPQ
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Oct 5, 2016 00:57
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Well yeah, obviously. And the second biggest film he's appeared in is Suicide Squad. Armageddon is his biggest film if you adjust for inflation but even then BvS and Suicide Squad are still 2nd and 3rd. http://www.boxofficemojo.com/people/chart/?view=Actor&id=benaffleck.htm&sort=gross&order=DESC&p=.htm
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Oct 5, 2016 01:31
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teagone posted:His answer is just that in the parody video. After Henry gives his long winded answer, Ben just goes "I agree." I wanted to hear what Henry was Saying...I just couldn't remember his name off the top of my head.  Thanks for that link.
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Oct 5, 2016 01:46
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:Well yeah, obviously. And the second biggest film he's appeared in is Suicide Squad. Armageddon is his biggest film if you adjust for inflation but even then BvS and Suicide Squad are still 2nd and 3rd. I walked by the local multiplex and Suicide Squad is STILL playing.
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Oct 5, 2016 01:59
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Jose Oquendo posted:I walked by the local multiplex and Suicide Squad is STILL playing. It made almost $2 million domestic this weekend just gone so it's got another month or two left in its run. Deadpool made about the same amount on its 9th weekend and stayed in cinemas for a further 9 weeks. For comparison, BvS only made about $300,000 on its 9th weekend and only lasted another 3 weeks.
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Oct 5, 2016 02:47
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My hope is between Suicide Squad and Fast and the Furious studios give us more multi-ethnic ensemble films since unsurprisingly their is quite a bit of demand. Or Suicide Squad versus Fast and the Furious crossover film. I would take that too.
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Barudak posted:My hope is between Suicide Squad and Fast and the Furious studios give us more multi-ethnic ensemble films since unsurprisingly their is quite a bit of demand. For as much as I don't like where the new movie is going, Mighty Morphing Power Rangers 2017 would help with that as well if it is a success.
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Oct 5, 2016 03:32
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:Well yeah, obviously. And the second biggest film he's appeared in is Suicide Squad. Armageddon is his biggest film if you adjust for inflation but even then BvS and Suicide Squad are still 2nd and 3rd. Holy moley. I didn't realize that Armageddon made so much money. I assumed it made a lot, but never really looked into the original figures.
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Oct 5, 2016 13:50
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Hugh Jackman's final Wolverine movie has a title: Logan James Mangold shares part of the script: https://twitter.com/mang0ld/status/783653479113904128
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Oct 5, 2016 15:32
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Welp. https://twitter.com/SuicideSquadWB/status/783685958034034689
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Oct 5, 2016 16:33
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I hope we see the promised 12 hours of Joker vamping.
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Oct 5, 2016 16:35
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I can't wait for people to suddenly say this is the cut that made the movie good, when actually it was good all along.
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Oct 5, 2016 16:36
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Corek posted:I hope we see the promised 12 hours of Joker vaping.
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Oct 5, 2016 16:44
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I'm happy, but this needs to be the last director's cut of a DCEU film. I'm tired of WB's meddling.
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Oct 5, 2016 16:46
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Meddling to say "we can't put out a three and a half hour film" is not unreasonable. Unless of course the reason it's 3.5 hours is all the stuff they made you add.
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Oct 5, 2016 16:48
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If Warner doesn't want 3-3.5 hour superhero films then they shouldn't be rushing to include multiple iconic characters in a single film in a new shared universe. Batman v Superman was hamstrung from the onset.
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Oct 5, 2016 16:54
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I'm pretty excited about this.
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Oct 5, 2016 17:00
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greatn posted:Meddling to say "we can't put out a three and a half hour film" is not unreasonable. True, but I just wish these issues were resolved in pre-production. You know, before the director filmed 3+ hours of footage.
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I honestly can't imagine how to make SUicide Squad a good movie with fifteen or twenty extra minutes. It was just so lackluster. I'm really interested in hearing what you guys think about it, however once it's out. But yeah, I'm tired of director's cuts of these movies. I loved BvS (and MoS), but paying 15 or 20 bucks to watch a goddamn movie and then them expecting me to pay another 15 or 20 bucks to watch a 'better' version of it in disc is getting pretty loving lame. It's starting to feel less wrong to just pirate the fucker on theater release and then buy the bluray to get the 'full experience'. (I know that pirating is wrong anyway yadda yadda) Drifter fucked around with this message at 17:10 on Oct 5, 2016 |
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Oct 5, 2016 17:06
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I really like long movies. Getting a 3+ hour long superhero movie was a treat for me, definitely a personal preference thing.Drifter posted:I honestly can't imagine how to make SUicide Squad a good movie with fifteen or twenty extra minutes. It was just so lackluster. I'll be interested to see how much this changes Suicide Squad thematically, if at all. I wonder if Ayer even bothered helping/approving of this cut or if it's WB cramming some deleted scenes back into the movie to help drive up blu ray sales. (I'll probably by this one in full disclosure). I can understand the sentiment of "quit releasing a new cut 6 months after the first cut was released" though.
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This is just how things work in the age of DLC, subscription models and microtransactions. It sucks.
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