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80s James Hetfield posted:I got the cards for the UG Marvel deck yesterday in the mail that Angry Grimace and a couple of us have been going over. I took out the 4 Gearhulks and just ran with 4 Ulamogs/4 Emrakul's. I jammed a bunch of games with the deck last night and wow is uw spirits a bad matchup for this deck.
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Christ has this thread gone completely off the rails. Balon posted:I jammed a bunch of games with the deck last night and wow is uw spirits a bad matchup for this deck. Back to actual magic... I'm also on this dumb/good Marvel deck. You are very correct about Spirits, it's really rough but the Temur version is much better against it and I don't think you're giving up anything by playing Red since the mana is amazing. You also get access to Chandra 6 for your 9th and 10th payoff cards to hit off of Mavel which isn't nothing and is actually castable and good vs aggro. mcmagic fucked around with this message at 15:15 on Oct 4, 2016 |
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mcmagic posted:Christ has this thread gone completely off the rails. What are you adding in/taking out for Red? I think the UG is strong enough, but I don't have any interest in buying Chandra's but I'll still peep your list if you wanna post it.
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GeneX posted:wotc creative is infatuated with nissa please don't insult the docile MTG waifu, you may not care but others do
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80s James Hetfield posted:What are you adding in/taking out for Red? I think the UG is strong enough, but I don't have any interest in buying Chandra's but I'll still peep your list if you wanna post it. Kozilek's Return and Harnessed Lightning in addition to the Chandra's. It's much better in the aggro matchups. IDK if you're on the build with the Vessel's but that is also where you want to be at if you ask me. I can post a list later in the week since we're still working on it but there is a list from the SCG that was my starting point. http://sales.starcitygames.com//deckdatabase/displaydeck.php?DeckID=108084
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Bugsy posted:https://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/55brsc/went_to_a_magic_the_gathering_tournament_this_was/ wow, lebron james plays magic? thats nuts. he looks taller on tv tho
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mcmagic posted:Kozilek's Return and Harnessed Lightning in addition to the Chandra's. It's much better in the aggro matchups. IDK if you're on the build with the Vessel's but that is also where you want to be at if you ask me. I can post a list later in the week since we're still working on it but there is a list from the SCG that was my starting point. I'm not using Vessels in the UG build because the last thing I want to do is have to pop one into my hand or put them into the 'yard because I didn't get anything via the activation. I think using the Glintnest and Puzzleknot and Scry from Aether Theorist I can scry enough time to hit a marvel when I want it and then follow up with the Puzzleknot and Theorist to scry making sure when I drop the Marvel I'm hitting Emrakul/Ulamog in draw 6 I'm sure this deck can be modified and tweaked since we're still just figuring it out after Week 1 but I like how it's set up now with just 2 colors and ditching the Gearhulk for Emrakul. I replaced the 2 blue spells where you steal artifacts with Anticipate but I'm sure something better than be used in that slot.
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Petiton to rename RDW Scotsman Aggro.
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80s James Hetfield posted:I'm not using Vessels in the UG build because the last thing I want to do is have to pop one into my hand or put them into the 'yard because I didn't get anything via the activation. I think using the Glintnest and Puzzleknot and Scry from Aether Theorist I can scry enough time to hit a marvel when I want it and then follow up with the Puzzleknot and Theorist to scry making sure when I drop the Marvel I'm hitting Emrakul/Ulamog in draw 6 Vessel is just flat out much better than Crane in the deck because it dodges targeted discard, gets more than just Artifacts and makes it easier to hardcast Emrakul which is something that comes up. You are much more likely to miss with Crane than with Vessel. I can understand playing Theorist in the UG build but I also think that Harnased Lightning is better in that slot because of it's versatility sometimes it just kills a Looter Copter and buys you 2 turns. I agree with you about Gearhulk. It's awful in this deck. Way too midrangy.
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Hellsau posted:Is it just me, or does the Kaladesh Gameday playmat look terrible? The same reason they put the good Nissa art on the intro pack Planeswalker.
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So to go with our October promo of Rise From The Tides and our November promo of Fiery Temper, in December we're going to get...
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My LGS is running a Frontier format (M15 and forward) tournament tomorrow night. I've still got all my cards from then. What are some broken things that adding M15 can do? It's basically last month's format with M15, Khans, and Fate Reforged added. I've identified these cards as significant from M15: Lightning Strike Stoke the Flames Elvish Mystic Satyr Wayfinder Chord of Calling Urborg Ensoul Artifact And Tormod's Crypt as our only form of graveyard hate in the format. The obvious builds are Rally the Ancestors with maybe adding Prized Amalgam Boss Red with maybe Hanwier Garrison replacing Gobline Rabblemaster Abzan Rhino Jeskai Ascendency GW Devotion subbing in Cryptolith Rites for Nykthos. Selfless Spirit as a 4-of. Delirium adding Satyr Wayfinder over some of the hot garbage like Gather the Pack Anyone got any fun ideas for the format? I'm leaning toward Boss Red if I want to win. GW Devotion if I want to have more fun than winning.
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Elyv posted:So to go with our October promo of Rise From The Tides and our November promo of Fiery Temper, in December we're going to get... More unplayable garbage....
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80s James Hetfield posted:I'm not using Vessels in the UG build because the last thing I want to do is have to pop one into my hand or put them into the 'yard because I didn't get anything via the activation. I think using the Glintnest and Puzzleknot and Scry from Aether Theorist I can scry enough time to hit a marvel when I want it and then follow up with the Puzzleknot and Theorist to scry making sure when I drop the Marvel I'm hitting Emrakul/Ulamog in draw 6 I can certainly understand why people wouldn't care for Gearhulk in the deck, but the reason why I was playing it was because the decks I was testing against were way too fast and slanted so much towards being aggressive that I needed good blocks both in the beginning of the game and later on just to win. You are going to win most games you hit Marvel for Ulamog or Emrakul on Turn 4 regardless of what else is in your deck. But you are going to get outclassed by Copters and first-striking Toolcraft Exemplars in pretty much any hand that doesn't find Aetherworks Marvel by turn 4. That's what I was using the Gearhulk to do - make your Cranes and Theorist able to profitably block basically everything while you dig for the big guys. mcmagic posted:Vessel is just flat out much better than Crane in the deck because it dodges targeted discard, gets more than just Artifacts and makes it easier to hardcast Emrakul which is something that comes up. You are much more likely to miss with Crane than with Vessel. I can understand playing Theorist in the UG build but I also think that Harnased Lightning is better in that slot because of it's versatility sometimes it just kills a Looter Copter and buys you 2 turns. I agree with you about Gearhulk. It's awful in this deck. Way too midrangy. It's not like I don't understand the argument against the Crane, it's that as far as I've tested nobody is playing bad Despise, Transgress doesn't hit either of them, and you don't really want any cards other than Glassblower's Puzzleknot or Aetherworks Marvel to begin with. You really aren't hardcasting Emrakul other than corner cases, especially not in a version of the deck with 0 creatures other than Emrakul and Ulamog. I just really like the 1/3 flying body quite a bit.
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Angry Grimace posted:I'm not currently on the Gearhulk version of the deck (currently playing with Kozilek's Return), but it did perform best from the testing I did. Transgress does hit Aetherworks Marvel and if you're relying on Crane to find it they are going to usually have a turn to Transgress it out of your hand. The body is just meh. It chumps a Copter for one turn I guess but I'm also playing Thriving Turtle which is almost as good of a blocker. I've also hardcast Emrakul a lot more than I thought I would with this deck.
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mcmagic posted:More unplayable garbage.... I think Fiery Temper is a fine promo but the other two are pretty silly
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keeblerdrow posted:My LGS is running a Frontier format (M15 and forward) tournament tomorrow night. I've still got all my cards from then. What are some broken things that adding M15 can do? It's basically last month's format with M15, Khans, and Fate Reforged added. Doesn't Frontier include Kaladesh too? If so, a U/R artifact deck would be the obvious direction to go in.
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Oct 4, 2016 17:24
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Does the interest in a new format stem from the current staleness of modern?
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Rinkles posted:Does the interest in a new format stem from the current staleness of modern? Are we going to have this discussion again?
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Rinkles posted:Does the interest in a new format stem from the current staleness of modern? Seems to me that people like to try new formats because reasons. Its new. Much like haven't all new standard rotations, especially after big set rotates out, been super popular for at least the first few weeks? The only thing stale about modern is the modern bitching. People are still showing up and playing in events in mass. Sickening fucked around with this message at 17:37 on Oct 4, 2016 |
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Rinkles posted:Does the interest in a new format stem from the current staleness of modern? Some big-name store in Japan is doing a tournament with this same format so I imagine others will want to try it too. I don't know if Wizards has dropped hints about officialy starting a new format.
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http://magic.wizards.com/en/MTGO/articles/archive/magic-online/treasure-chest-information-2016-10-03quote:Additionally, many of you have requested that Treasure Chests be tradable. In response to this feedback, treasure chests will become tradable in mid-November when we update the Treasure Chest content to include cards from Commander (2016 Edition) and Conspiracy: Take the Crown. Players who have Treasure Chests in their account will always have the most recent version of the contents whenever they decide to open them (including as mentioned in the time frame above, the ability to trade them). Treasure Chest curated card list: http://magic.wizards.com/en/MTGO/articles/archive/magic-online/treasure-chest-curated-card-list-2016-09-29
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C-Euro posted:Some big-name store in Japan is doing a tournament with this same format so I imagine others will want to try it too. I don't know if Wizards has dropped hints about officialy starting a new format. There are some perks to wotc to making a format besides standard that only uses cards from the holostamp era. It definitely doesn't benefit the players.
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IMO postmodern should be called the Lost format because absolutely no question will have a satisfactory answer
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odiv posted:http://magic.wizards.com/en/MTGO/articles/archive/magic-online/treasure-chest-information-2016-10-03 oh dang, time to pivot into talking about how this is a bad change cause nothing WOTC does can be right or good
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Sickening posted:There are some perks to wotc to making a format besides standard that only uses cards from the holostamp era. It definitely doesn't benefit the players. Can I play Mazes End or Flochs UW Elixir Control in this format and will they good?
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I heard if you add this guy named odiv to your MTGO friends and then hold down C and $ while opening a treasure chest you're guaranteed a curated foil and the max amount of points. (I'm so lonely)
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Oh nevermind I thought it was M14. Move it back a little further M15+ blows
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odiv posted:I heard if you add this guy named odiv to your MTGO friends and then hold down C and $ while opening a treasure chest you're guaranteed a curated foil and the max amount of points. i'd add you but that would require redownloading MTGO and well...
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The quick math is that the Treasure Chests are an EV gain over the previous structure, they just aren't if you were to sell it to a bot because the bot probably values Play Points at 0.
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odiv posted:http://magic.wizards.com/en/MTGO/articles/archive/magic-online/treasure-chest-information-2016-10-03  Rinkles posted:Does the interest in a new format stem from the current staleness of modern?
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mcmagic posted:Transgress does hit Aetherworks Marvel and if you're relying on Crane to find it they are going to usually have a turn to Transgress it out of your hand. The body is just meh. It chumps a Copter for one turn I guess but I'm also playing Thriving Turtle which is almost as good of a blocker. I've also hardcast Emrakul a lot more than I thought I would with this deck. I've never played th deck, but would Elder Deep Fiend be an option for the decks running the bird? It gives you a castable addition to the deck that is nontrivial if you hit it with Aetherworks.
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Chill la Chill posted:Stores have an interest to pump and dump their stock in testbed formats like EDH, tiny leaders, and now whatever this is. EDH stuck, so we'll see. I think the answer that isn't this is that the new card frame combined with wizards being reluctant to reprint powerful cards means that a sort of standard+ is the only viable eternal format that won't necessarily cost as much as modern. I don't actually know if this is true, with multiple powerful lands and a multicolor block being in the format already. I'm sure the real play is to buy up boss sligh for $10 and steal as much store credit before the format folds in on itself
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AlternateNu posted:I've never played th deck, but would Elder Deep Fiend be an option for the decks running the bird? It gives you a castable addition to the deck that is nontrivial if you hit it with Aetherworks. I've tried that out, but I feel like you're better off with a dedicated Temurge strategy if you want to do that.
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Death Bot posted:I think the answer that isn't this is that the new card frame combined with wizards being reluctant to reprint powerful cards means that a sort of standard+ is the only viable eternal format that won't necessarily cost as much as modern. Right, that's probably what'll happen. But stores have an interest in increasing demand for really cheap cards too.
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Chill la Chill posted:It'll be fun to see them giving out treasure chests for GPs in an attempt to get people to try MTGO more. I would unironically be more likely to attend GP's if they increased the value of them and I could play MODO cheaper. As it is, GP's value sucks. A playmat that should be $30, a promo that you can buy for $15 once we're 6ish months into the year, and the event. For $30-50 they're good value even if you are a moderate player, play 5 rounds, get dinner, do a draft, come back the next day do a couple more drafts, fund weekend. At $80 or whatever, they can get hosed.
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AlternateNu posted:I've never played th deck, but would Elder Deep Fiend be an option for the decks running the bird? It gives you a castable addition to the deck that is nontrivial if you hit it with Aetherworks. I don't think so. You want to be more streamlined.
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I just don't know that anyone's worked out the right balance of dig, blockers, energy and removal yet. So far I'm not really liking Kozilek's Return main, but I do like Harnessed Lightning.
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jassi007 posted:I would unironically be more likely to attend GP's if they increased the value of them and I could play MODO cheaper. As it is, GP's value sucks. A playmat that should be $30, a promo that you can buy for $15 once we're 6ish months into the year, and the event. For $30-50 they're good value even if you are a moderate player, play 5 rounds, get dinner, do a draft, come back the next day do a couple more drafts, fund weekend. At $80 or whatever, they can get hosed.
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Angry Grimace posted:I just don't know that anyone's worked out the right balance of dig, blockers, energy and removal yet. So far I'm not really liking Kozilek's Return main, but I do like Harnessed Lightning. I'm on 2/2 K Return Split now. I think the matchups that it's really good against, it's so good that you have to play it.
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