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Svanja posted:https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton/status/783109774753792002 In an election of bullshit and equivocation, and a thread full of snark, this is a good ad
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TheGreatGnocchi posted:Oh, the media will do anything and everything to write a comeback narrative. They get a loving erection for it. I almost guarantee they will write that narrative after next debate, even if Trumps performance is as terrible as the first one. The media does not want to lose viewers to a "boring" blowout race so they will do everything in their power to make it appear that it's anyone's game. Expect Trump to be written as beating Hilary next debate, even if he isn't seen as the clear winner. Expectations are even lower than they were going into the first debate. Yeah, but Trump won't do better. He won't even hold it together for the first 20 minutes this time unless he's on Xanax because this past week has just been taking huge shits on him. He's actively planning to bring up Bill's infidelities. His plan is to be a bigger and more aggressive bully at a town hall event.
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Oct 4, 2016 19:39
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Lord Hydronium posted:But what if that's just what he wants us to think so that we lower our expectations and he wins the debate? Then he's a lot smarter than we all think, and one of the main things that makes a Trump presidency scary goes away. A Trump presidency would still be horrific, but... it would be horrific in a more interesting way?
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Oct 4, 2016 19:39
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We already know we're in some sort of parody universe where anything is possible. I want Clinton to nominate Obama. Michelle might divorce him over that though. But just think, all those people who have been counting down the days to the end of the Obama presidency will have to deal with the fact that Obama is going to hold a position in an important political role for life.
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Oct 4, 2016 19:39
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Oct 4, 2016 19:39
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axeil posted:So I spent some time looking at that site that lets you vote on questions for the next debate, and the questions are shockingly not poo poo. Guess the Deplorables couldn't figure a way to stuff the ballot box. There are some bad ones, but on the whole I could see these actually getting asked. Kind of strange how no question about how would you ensure the 2008 recession which was caused by reckless action by wall street does not happen again isn't in there.
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Oct 4, 2016 19:40
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axeil posted:So I spent some time looking at that site that lets you vote on questions for the next debate, and the questions are shockingly not poo poo. Guess the Deplorables couldn't figure a way to stuff the ballot box. There are some bad ones, but on the whole I could see these actually getting asked. i really, really hope they ask trump about climate change
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Oct 4, 2016 19:40
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HannibalBarca posted:MY EYES MY EYYEEESSSSS If you put a marble in his belly button, how many pine boards would it penetrate when he let his gut out?
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Oct 4, 2016 19:42
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Koalas March posted:I want to see Hillary wearing something like this. This. There's nothing wrong with the pantsuits. It's just the solid block colours that make her look Kim Jong Il
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Oct 4, 2016 19:43
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JazzFlight posted:Like, if he wanted, could he retract that nomination if Hillary + Dem Senate wins? He could but he's not going to. If he absolutely wanted to then he'd ask Merrick to withdraw himself since Obama pulling Garland at any point validates the GOP's stonewalling actions. Obama wants Garland on the bench and his view is he's getting Garland or he's going to make the GOP run out the clock like a bunch of assholes. However if Clinton wins and the Dems take the Senate I'd be utterly stunned if the GOP don't try to rush his confirmation. Plus Obama respects the bench too much to make such a dick move. If the GOP holds the Senate and Clinton wins then maybe she'll demand they confirm Garland in the lame duck but if the Dems take the Senate too I can't imagine the GOP are going to let her get such a friendly Senate for her own pick. They'd announce "the people spoke and elected Hillary so we'll confirm Garland" and then the media will probably play along with it because the media's still lovely and lazy even with Trump's meltdowns. Phone posted:Like I said, he should just veto the appointment. I don't think the President can veto appointments, if for no other reason than they're the one picking the nominee in the first place and can just withdraw the person during the process.
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Oct 4, 2016 19:44
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:He's incredibly well qualified, but: It's important to note that joining the Supreme Court comes with the ability to create precedent, whereas a Circuit Court judge should follow established precedent. He could have totally different opinions that he is unable to exercise due to his current position. Obama certainly knows this, and probably knows that those opinions might have him being a bit more to the left than what appears.
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Oct 4, 2016 19:45
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Crow Jane posted:Real talk, there's no way Trump doesn't gently caress up the next few debates. Even if his team does manage to coach him a little, there's no way he stays on message for ninety minutes without a teleprompter. Plus he's pretty clearly rattled lately I think that means he'll go into the second debate aggressive, looking to make up all his losses and then some with a commanding performance. I think it'll go about as well for him in the second debate as it did in the first. Hillary will be ready for whatever horrible crap Trump says, and he will become increasingly unhinged (to use the talking point) when it doesn't phase her. It honestly wouldn't surprise me to see him drop out of the third debate if Hillary gets him as good in the second one as she did in the first. The wildcard would be if Trump still thinks he won both, even as the polls move further against him. Who knows what a malignant narcissist will do when they're on the verge of a huge, public loss...
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Oct 4, 2016 19:48
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WeAreTheRomans posted:This. That is probably it.
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Oct 4, 2016 19:50
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BiohazrD posted:It's important to note that joining the Supreme Court comes with the ability to create precedent, whereas a Circuit Court judge should follow established precedent. This is basically the point I was going to get around to. I have a hard time believing that Obama would go for a compromise-position true moderate in 2016. He might have given it a shot in 2010 but by now he knows what he's up against, and I'm pretty confident the guy will end up more left-leaning than everyone seems to think. I think the true 'compromise' that came along with Garland was his age.
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Oct 4, 2016 19:50
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BiohazrD posted:It's important to note that joining the Supreme Court comes with the ability to create precedent, whereas a Circuit Court judge should follow established precedent. To be honest I suspect Garland secretly is fairly liberal. Not, like, Notorious R.B.G. levels of liberal, but acceptably so. Even if he wasn't before, I could see the GOP being a colossal dick to him for so long pushing him to the left a bit, if only out of spite.
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HannibalBarca posted:MY EYES MY EYYEEESSSSS interesting first choice of subject for the half-digested circus peanut sculpture exhibit at this year's texas state fair
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Oct 4, 2016 19:51
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i don't see a scenario where Trump comes out of the second debate looking good, just because of the Town Hall aspect the third is the one where I think he could maybe paper over his mistakes from the first one, but after two bad debates before that I can't see it saving him
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Oct 4, 2016 19:52
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lozzle posted:To be honest I suspect Garland secretly is fairly liberal. Not, like, Notorious R.B.G. levels of liberal, but acceptably so. Even if he wasn't before, I could see the GOP being a colossal dick to him for so long pushing him to the left a bit, if only out of spite. Being stalled from having the job of a lifetime must be pissing him off big league.
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Oct 4, 2016 19:53
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HannibalBarca posted:So I wake up, see that Assange is (as usual) full of poo poo, and that this has caused Alex Jones to (as usual) lose his goddamn mind. Great start to the day. Im way behind but thanks so much for this fuckin lol forever
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Oct 4, 2016 19:53
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I think Trump will do a lot better in the Town Hall format.
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theflyingorc posted:i don't see a scenario where Trump comes out of the second debate looking good, just because of the Town Hall aspect I'm going to laugh if he tanks the second one and then decides to not go to the 3rd one, even though Chris Wallace is the "moderator".
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Oct 4, 2016 19:53
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Koalas March posted:I want to see Hillary wearing something like this. Yeah well I want to see Hillary wear something like this:
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Oct 4, 2016 19:54
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I feel pretty certain that the administration knew and informed Garland that things would go the way they've gone
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Oct 4, 2016 19:54
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Doctor Butts posted:I think Trump will do a lot better in the Town Hall format. ...why? He has even less ability to control the situation than he did in the last one and we already saw him do terribly in a town hall, and that was when his opponent couldn't answer back
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Minimalist Program posted:Yeah well I want to see Hillary wear something like this:  A saddle and bridle is not appropriate Presidential attire 
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Just catching up and today's swing state polling is just brutal NC C+6 PA C+10 PA C+9 NV C+3
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Azathoth posted:He's 42, and yet he looks like a pro-wrestler in his mid 50s. Cocaine's a hell of a drug
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Oct 4, 2016 19:56
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I don't really see anyone trying to tap the whole comeback story even if he does win the debate soemhow, if only because we've been near daily getting stories on how Trump keeps loving everything up both past and present. Standing tall doesn't really matter when you keep getting your legs cut out, and with the floodgates open about his taxes and his charity, everyone is seeing blood in the water.
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Oct 4, 2016 19:57
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theflyingorc posted:...why? He has even less ability to control the situation than he did in the last one I just figure he'll play off crowds easier.
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BiohazrD posted:It's important to note that joining the Supreme Court comes with the ability to create precedent, whereas a Circuit Court judge should follow established precedent. This whole "secretly, Obama actually holds all of my progressive opinions!" thing from leftists bothers me. He's a socially liberal but otherwise centrist technocrat. Don't make him something he's not. Garland is a moderate who was appointed by a moderate.
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Doctor Butts posted:I think Trump will do a lot better in the Town Hall format. Same. Trump won't be asked to follow up by audience members and Hill-dawg can't do a really effective "I feel your pain" moment. Also, questions will be asked by "undecided voters'" and I can't trust the intelligence of anyone who is still an undecided voter in the middle of October to make sounds choices on what questions to ask.
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Oct 4, 2016 19:58
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nachos posted:Just catching up and today's swing state polling is just brutal Is one of these supposed to be FL?
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Oct 4, 2016 19:58
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Phone posted:Is one of these supposed to be FL? Nope, there were two PA polls today.
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Oct 4, 2016 19:59
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Doctor Butts posted:I think Trump will do a lot better in the Town Hall format. Saving this for posterity. People are empathetic (well, most people). Belligerently condescending to an actual soccer mom or Gold Star widow is going to give people the visceral anti-Trump douche chills
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Oct 4, 2016 20:00
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Minimalist Program posted:Yeah well I want to see Hillary wear something like this: Is the country ready for a topless president?
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WeAreTheRomans posted:
If Trump said that the next day a video would come out with him wearing them
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:This whole "secretly, Obama actually holds all of my progressive opinions!" thing from leftists bothers me. He's a socially liberal but otherwise centrist technocrat. Don't make him something he's not. Garland is a moderate who was appointed by a moderate. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying we are getting Full Communism Now: The Judge. We may, however, get a guy who is actually ever so slightly to the left as what he appears. Especially on criminal justice, where he has little leeway in terms of his rulings. Obama is absolutely a left-leaning centrist corporatocrat, but that doesn't mean that he wouldn't take an opportunity to cement his legacy as a Great Democrat by putting a 5th liberal on the SC. 30 TO 50 FERAL HOG fucked around with this message at 20:05 on Oct 4, 2016 |
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Also, questions will be asked by "undecided voters'" and I can't trust the intelligence of anyone who is still an undecided voter in the middle of October to make sounds choices on what questions to ask. I'm undecided as to whether I put Vilerat's name down or Brooks Cracktackle this year. I love living in a predestined Democrat state where my vote doesn't matter. Sucks to be a swing state where you actually have to pay attention to the candidates.
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:This whole "secretly, Obama actually holds all of my progressive opinions!" thing from leftists bothers me. He's a socially liberal but otherwise centrist technocrat. Don't make him something he's not. Garland is a moderate who was appointed by a moderate. Socially liberal centrist technocrats actually like liberal justices because they allow them to, you know, actually govern.
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