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Zerilan posted:It's more that people looked at the advantages and disadvantages of it, decided Triforce is generally better, and because of that think the pros and coaches are dum dums for not seeing that. It's more that one build overwhelmingly outperforms the other build in both solo queue and pro play but yet people still choose to go the worse build and then can't do anything in games with it and it's super sad to watch.
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"When I die, I hope they say I convinced noobs to stop building IBG on ez than I made millions of dollars."
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Maybe if Stixxay had built Triforce CLG would be 3-0 right now instead of losing to the wildcard.
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Libertine posted:It's more that one build overwhelmingly outperforms the other build in both solo queue and pro play but yet people still choose to go the worse build and then can't do anything in games with it and it's super sad to watch. What people have been hinting at but not outright saying yet is that the winrates of the two items might be skewed by the fact that people generally build IBG when they're already losing and TF when they're already winning. (I do agree that TF is better atm tough)
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Oct 4, 2016 09:52
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I was at an Atmosphere concert today, did I miss any cool drama or news or anything
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Luna Was Here posted:I was at an Atmosphere concert today, did I miss any cool drama or news or anything how was it? i used to be super into atmosphere
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The Mash posted:What people have been hinting at but not outright saying yet is that the winrates of the two items might be skewed by the fact that people generally build IBG when they're already losing and TF when they're already winning. (I do agree that TF is better atm tough) Except for the Uzi example which has been brought up twice. IBG is not good right now, both because it's been nerfed really hard and because teams aren't playing the kind of tank that it's good at kiting. You can't kite protobelt kennen or equalizer with it. It's maybe still good against Trundle but mostly it's not gonna save you, so just build damage and hope e is enough. E: also considering the current meta is wombo as poo poo I don't think sustained kiting is what ez needs
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Wasn't the first week pretty crazy last year as well though? And then it sort of balanced out into what you'd expect. I hope it stays exciting.
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Lovechop posted:how was it? i used to be super into atmosphere This is my question too
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CODChimera posted:Wasn't the first week pretty crazy last year as well though? And then it sort of balanced out into what you'd expect. NA went 0-10 in week 2, that was pretty crazy I think NA can go 1-8 this year at least. Also it triggers me that they are doing the group order A C D B this week 
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Dragongem posted:NA went 0-10 in week 2, that was pretty crazy This was also the order for the first set of matches (day one into the first two of day 2).
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Oct 4, 2016 14:26
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http://slingshotesports.com/2016/10/01/albus-nox-luna-likkrit-league-of-legends-world-championship-clg/ likkrit might be a crazy person but he's on point.
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You can't blame people for thinking that the Wildcard teams are going to be poo poo because there's no way to judge the relative strength of that region. But if you watched the tournament to get into worlds, I think Intz and particularly Albux Nox looked pretty okay in that tourney.
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Sexpansion posted:You can't blame people for thinking that the Wildcard teams are going to be poo poo because there's no way to judge the relative strength of that region. But if you watched the tournament to get into worlds, I think Intz and particularly Albux Nox looked pretty okay in that tourney. INTZ had massively underperformed both times we'd seen them internationally at wildcard tournaments. ANX were arguably even worse on that count, having lost to the LAS representatives (KLG) in one of the Worlds qualifiers last year, and they were actually 2-0 down and i think behind decently in game 3 vs a pretty meh Vega Squadron squad in the russian finals. the other team in the finals, Lyon, made a great run, but it's kinda telling of how weak the field was that they were able to - Lyon and LAN had been a complete joke at every previous wildcard tournament (LAN still is - the #4 team in LAN is significantly worse than the level just below NACS, #2 and #3 are just about on their level). even among wildcard experts, there wasn't really any expectations beyond ANX maybe taking a game off CLG and INTZ getting somewhere between 0 and 2 wins off H2K and AHQ. but turns out the rest of the field caught up, which makes me even more loving pissed off we threw vs DP because HWA would probably be 3-0 in group C right now.
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it's incredibly hard to judge the relative strength of any region even if you're super familiar with it because the past two worlds have had somewhat large patches fairly close to them, so you not only need to know the regions well but also how well the teams adapt (and this is relevant even at worlds, how they adapt in short series, longer series, pick bans) people who get paid money to know this stuff have to watch an unreal amount of hours not to mention being intimately aware of outside factors to get a gauge on how teams are going to react to certain things. and teams don't necessarily have access to this information (don't know? don't care? hail satan)
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G2 is a great example of a team that picks the worst tier of meta champions and has no real pick ban strategy. They would've been better off going to op.gg and banning ANX's best champions than however they decided to approach the p/b in that game and suffered mightily. and now they won't get out of finals barring massive collapse by the other three teams. question: have you ever solo killed dumbledoge?
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Sexpansion posted:You can't blame people for thinking that the Wildcard teams are going to be poo poo because there's no way to judge the relative strength of that region. But if you watched the tournament to get into worlds, I think Intz and particularly Albux Nox looked pretty okay in that tourney. Ehhh, they're against other wildcards. Yang looked godlike on Gnar but it's not hard to look good when the entire enemy team stands within a foot of each other next to three walls while a 100 rage Gnar walks towards them. Wildcard tournament wasn't a clown fiesta but league is a game where how good you look depends as much on the enemy as you half the time. Taciturn Tactician fucked around with this message at 15:35 on Oct 4, 2016 |
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NotQuiteQuentin posted:http://slingshotesports.com/2016/10/01/albus-nox-luna-likkrit-league-of-legends-world-championship-clg/ Definitely rooting for Albus Nox Luna to go all the way.
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I recently discovered Rush's stream And it is a delight Also, Ezreal sucks
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Lovechop posted:how was it? i used to be super into atmosphere Schiavona posted:This is my question too It was really really Cool and Good. deM atlaS opened and the house was good about keeping up with him and making noise but you could tell the crowd didn't really know who he was. Brother Ali came out and did a cool set, most of his really well known songs so the crowd was more into it. I was there with a couple of friends that I roped into going with me so I wouldn't be an awkward phreak and when he came out he was wearing this dorky green windbreaker and I saw them get visibly confused when this 80 year old lookin dude came out and started spitting out some hot bars. Both his set and deM atlaS's were about 45 minutes each so I figured when Slug came out he would be doing mostly stuff off of the new album with a bit of the older stuff off of like Lovelife, Reflections, the more hyphy stuff mixed in with it, but he was doing a little bit of everything. I was like legit surprised when he started doing God's Bathroom Floor considering I don't think most of the fans don't even know about the Overcast! EP release. I think one of my favorite parts was at one point he took off the jacket he was wearing and underneath it he had a shirt that said Jill Stein 2016 on it. Someone heckled him from the crowd and he went "Did I question who you were voting for? No? Alright then, don't fuckin question who I'm voting for" (actual favorite moment was when he cut the music for the third verse of Little Man, and had the crowd sing it with him and everyone in there was singing it word for word until the last line which he used to transition into Woman With The Tattooed Hands where he had us sing the opening verse before turning the speed back up and getting right into the music backed section of it) Dude has great stage presence and at the end did a 3 song encore with a freestyle between him, deM atlaS and Ali which was one of the best freestlye I've heard and I need to find someone who was at the show recording it so I can get the video from them. Chris de Sperg posted:the funny thing about the wildcard dominance is that this was supposed to be the weakest field in a while for wildcards at worlds. turkey was the strongest region, with three rosters that were scrimming low-end LCS teams (Dark Passage, SuperMassive, and the mighty HWA Gaming with ya boy right here and also holyphoenix), but we got upset in semis, SuperMassive got 3-0ed in finals, and DP couldn't bring their star jungler or their breakout mid acquisition (Xerxe and Caps respectively) because they were 16. I wonder what happened then that is letting these teams flex on the top teams from NA and EU (maybe not INTZ as much because I don't think they're gonna get another win) because in the games they've won it's been dominating performances. Do you think it's just teams not doing their research on these guys and that after this break this poo poo ain't happening anymore?
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YancyQ posted:I recently discovered Rush's stream His vod reviews from worlds are good: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MrFswuOiN4
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stump collector posted:G2 is a great example of a team that picks the worst tier of meta champions and has no real pick ban strategy. They would've been better off going to op.gg and banning ANX's best champions than however they decided to approach the p/b in that game and suffered mightily. and now they won't get out of finals barring massive collapse by the other three teams. Luna Was Here posted:I wonder what happened then that is letting these teams flex on the top teams from NA and EU (maybe not INTZ as much because I don't think they're gonna get another win) because in the games they've won it's been dominating performances. Do you think it's just teams not doing their research on these guys and that after this break this poo poo ain't happening anymore? My feeling/hope/inclination is that INTZ pick up 1 more game (vs AHQ) if they start Westdoor again, ANX probably don't win another unless CLG screw up really badly again. But the top wildcard teams can and should be giving all but the very best teams a good run for their money at this point with how the game's evolved. Chris de Sperg fucked around with this message at 15:54 on Oct 4, 2016 |
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Chris de Sperg posted:i coached rather than played unfortunately but it's Turkey so if I get D3 who knows, there have been worse players I think CLG is gonna be ANX's gatekeeper. G2 has been in full collapse mode so far and I'm not sure if they're gonna recover. I think it's gonna come down to support staff on that one. I don't think there's any real chance they beat ROX (unless ROX like monumentally fucks up a level 1 cheese or something crazy stupid) but CLG seems like a real possibility. That one is gonna come down to drafting imo. IF ANX get a comfort comp and IF they don't let CLG just run on them with like Alistar Sol and Nidalee or something I think that one is going to end up being a very good game.
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ROX and ANX advancing from group A would be some glorious poo poo.
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Savage Cracker posted:ROX and ANX advancing from group A would be some glorious poo poo. I think it will probably be ROX and CLG, but I would love to see ANX go through. CLG in quarterfinals would be hilarious though, they will get massacred.
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CLG vs SKT in the finals would be like that one Rocky where Rocky has to fight that guy again but Adrian gets sick and Rocky can't cant read so he chases a chicken and fights the guy again and wins
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Oct 4, 2016 19:58
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Adrian is a real player so this is appopriate
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YancyQ posted:CLG vs SKT in the finals would be like that one Rocky where Rocky has to fight that guy again but Adrian gets sick and Rocky can't cant read so he chases a chicken and fights the guy again and wins Please no more SKT finals.
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stump collector posted:Adrian is a real player so this is appopriate is he what's happening to that team anyway
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I'm basically saying that Huhi is the Rocky of IRL And he will win Worlds for his bro Adrian
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Dropping burns thicker than a Support Brand ultimate:quote:Kira: 'It's a pretty cool thing to be here and have more wins than the [entire continent] of Europe'
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Zoness posted:is he
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How has no team picked up Rush? I thought that it might have been because his English was bad, but after watching his stream his English is fine. I can think of 6 or 7 NA teams and about 20 EU teams that would probably be better with him on their roster.
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YancyQ posted:How has no team picked up Rush? I thought that it might have been because his English was bad, but after watching his stream his English is fine. I can think of 6 or 7 NA teams and about 20 EU teams that would probably be better with him on their roster. Rush is an old man in esport years(24), probably not super attractive after a relatively quiet spring from him (would have been better if balls didn't suck)
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Why would Liquid want Adrian? I think Matt is a fine support who got stuck with a fabbbbuyyyyyy and a Jynthe. I would like to see a Reignover that isn't restricted to playing Reksai
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Shadow225 posted:Why would Liquid want Adrian? I think Matt is a fine support who got stuck with a fabbbbuyyyyyy and a Jynthe.
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