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mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

If you see this avatar while scrolling the succ zone, you have been visited by the mcmagic of shitty lib takes! Good luck and prosperity will come to you, but only if you reply "shut the fuck up mcmagic" to this post!

Jiminy Christmas! Shoes! posted:

lol what

Are you purposely ignore the part of this story where Kraft railed against it until the owners meeting where he got dumped on? And then resumed bitching and moaning once the punishment against Brady was upheld by Goodell? You seem to be building some kind of wall around this info.

All was needed for show. You think it's a coincidence that McNally and Jastremski are in the witness protection program? They must know a lot.

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Kalli
Jun 2, 2001



mcmagic posted:

All was needed for show. You think it's a coincidence that McNally and Jastremski are in the witness protection program? They must know a lot.

You mean the two locker room attendants who were reinstated at the beginning of last season, and one of which still works for the team?

mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

If you see this avatar while scrolling the succ zone, you have been visited by the mcmagic of shitty lib takes! Good luck and prosperity will come to you, but only if you reply "shut the fuck up mcmagic" to this post!

Kalli posted:

You mean the two locker room attendants who were reinstated at the beginning of last season, and one of which still works for the team?

OF COURSE they still work for the team. I'm sure with a nice tidy pay bump too.

Intruder
Mar 5, 2003

I got a taste for blown saves

Badfinger posted:

I'm with you completely. I'm not going to necessarily dunk on officials who made a mistake on the field, but this was an absolute easy error to fix, the system is in place to automatically fix it, and they not only didn't fix it the league is showing contempt to people that are suggesting they didn't get it right.

I could understand if a Redskin had fallen on the ball in a visible way before the pile started and then calling the possession based on that, but it was a scrum from the getgo and I have literally never in my life seen possession called in that situation without first at least finding the drat ball

The fact that the rules call for the need for clear recovery on replay should just make it even more important for the refs to not rush the call before they know who actually has the ball

Brannock posted:

You shouldn't because Ballghazi is silly and trumped up, no matter how much you hate Tom Brady.

This post is correct

I can't believe after all these years I'm still not sure whether or not mcmagic is gimmick posting

Impossibly Perfect Sphere
Nov 6, 2002

They wasted Luanne on Lucky!

She could of have been so much more but the writers just didn't care!
I'm imaging mcmagic in a dimly room with the names of Patriots connected by strings to photos of history's greatest tragedies.

fsif
Jul 18, 2003

Okay here's the final word.

Alaois
Feb 7, 2012

still don't know what a dorito dink is

wandler20
Nov 13, 2002

How many Championships?
https://twitter.com/PhilHecken/status/783386344991105024

mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

If you see this avatar while scrolling the succ zone, you have been visited by the mcmagic of shitty lib takes! Good luck and prosperity will come to you, but only if you reply "shut the fuck up mcmagic" to this post!

fsif posted:

Okay here's the final word.



How big a raise did they get? I'm gonna go with 300%.

Impossibly Perfect Sphere
Nov 6, 2002

They wasted Luanne on Lucky!

She could of have been so much more but the writers just didn't care!

Intruder
Mar 5, 2003

I got a taste for blown saves
Why is Watt trying to help the Patriots anyway

fsif posted:

Okay here's the final word.



I have no idea what to believe wrt deflated balls, I just don't care and think that a 4 game suspension for something this minor is ridiculous

Grittybeard
Mar 29, 2010

Bad, very bad!

Brockenstein posted:

This post is correct

I can't believe after all these years I'm still not sure whether or not mcmagic is gimmick posting

Oh it's definitely silly and trumped up and had no effect on any games.

It's also true that they actually did it (although maybe not effectively in that particular game) thinking it would matter. And then Brady went all scorched earth on his phone because he was so afraid of it.

mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

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Grittybeard posted:

Oh it's definitely silly and trumped up and had no effect on any games.

It's also true that they actually did it (although maybe not effectively in that particular game) thinking it would matter. And then Brady went all scorched earth on his phone because he was so afraid of it.

Why did they do it if it had no effect?

Impossibly Perfect Sphere
Nov 6, 2002

They wasted Luanne on Lucky!

She could of have been so much more but the writers just didn't care!
I would like to know what the numbers were for all the games last year when the NFL measured. It's pretty obvious why they refuse to share that info.

Alaois
Feb 7, 2012

Honestly though, I'd still rather have McMagic be representing my team than GaussianCopola or Mister Fister

Intruder
Mar 5, 2003

I got a taste for blown saves

mcmagic posted:

Why did they do it if it had no effect?

Good point

*invests if phiten necklaces, begins cupping regimen*

Alaois posted:

Honestly though, I'd still rather have McMagic be representing my team than GaussianCopola or Mister Fister

Eh, also true

Grittybeard
Mar 29, 2010

Bad, very bad!

mcmagic posted:

Why did they do it if it had no effect?

Why do athletes wear those silver bracelet things? They think it works even if it doesn't.

mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

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Brockenstein posted:

Good point

*invests if phiten necklaces, begins cupping regimen*


Eh, also true

This is the self (and everyone else) professed smartest organization in the NFL. Everything they do is for a reason and not for dumb superstitions.

Intruder
Mar 5, 2003

I got a taste for blown saves


He wouldn't do it if it didn't work, he's the most decorated olympic champion in history

pubic works project
Jan 28, 2005

No Decepticon in history, and I say this with great surety, has been treated worse or more unfairly.

I wonder if Cromartie knocked any women up during the 4 weeks he was in Indy.

Impossibly Perfect Sphere
Nov 6, 2002

They wasted Luanne on Lucky!

She could of have been so much more but the writers just didn't care!

Brockenstein posted:



He wouldn't do it if it didn't work, he's the most decorated olympic champion in history

wtf

Gumbel2Gumbel
Apr 28, 2010

Brockenstein posted:



He wouldn't do it if it didn't work, he's the most decorated olympic champion in history

Cupping works. It works better if you use a lubricant and slide them, though. It's like a massage but a lot more effective (hurts though).

Dry needling works too, FYI.

They took the mild benefits from acupuncture and cupping, added science, and made them super effective.

bird with big dick
Oct 21, 2015

adaz posted:

had a full panel of judges agree that the science behind it was conclusively in their favor

Source?

fsif
Jul 18, 2003

https://twitter.com/FO_ASchatz/status/783390173702656004

Impossibly Perfect Sphere
Nov 6, 2002

They wasted Luanne on Lucky!

She could of have been so much more but the writers just didn't care!
Ravens cut Forsett.

pubic works project
Jan 28, 2005

No Decepticon in history, and I say this with great surety, has been treated worse or more unfairly.

Sounds about right.

Azhais
Feb 5, 2007
Switchblade Switcharoo

I thought Sio was generally pretty decent last year?

MacheteZombie
Feb 4, 2007

Gumbel2Gumbel posted:

Cupping works. It works better if you use a lubricant and slide them, though. It's like a massage but a lot more effective (hurts though).

Dry needling works too, FYI.

They took the mild benefits from acupuncture and cupping, added science, and made them super effective.

I dont believe you

Gumbel2Gumbel
Apr 28, 2010

MacheteZombie posted:

I dont believe you

"Champion PT and Performance was founded by Dr. Mike Reinold and Lenny Macrina, two renowned physical therapists, strength coaches, and performance enhancement specialists who have worked with organizations such as The Boston Red Sox, Massachusetts General Hospital, and orthopedic surgeon Dr. James Andrews’ American Sports Medicine Institute."

These are my PT guys. They do it and it works.

Why are foam rolling and massage accepted as good at loosening up muscles, but using a tool to grab a muscle, pull it, and move it around to loosen it up voodoo?

Gumbel2Gumbel fucked around with this message at 20:55 on Oct 4, 2016

Blarfk
Dec 26, 2003

Gumbel2Gumbel posted:

"Champion PT and Performance was founded by Dr. Mike Reinold and Lenny Macrina, two renowned physical therapists, strength coaches, and performance enhancement specialists who have worked with organizations such as The Boston Red Sox, Massachusetts General Hospital, and orthopedic surgeon Dr. James Andrews’ American Sports Medicine Institute."

These are my PT guys. They do it and it works.

Why are foam rolling and massage accepted as good at loosening up muscles, but using a tool to grab a muscle, pull it, and move it around voodoo?

Have they authored any peer-reviewed studies as to it's real, positive effects?

FizFashizzle
Mar 30, 2005







forcing blood flow to muscles improves their recovery.

There are ways to do it that don't involve having massive red spots on your skin though.

Blarfk
Dec 26, 2003

Blarfk posted:

Have they authored any peer-reviewed studies as to it's real, positive effects?

Signs point to no

https://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/cupping-olympic-pseudoscience/

MacheteZombie
Feb 4, 2007

"Some Scientist posted:

In conclusion, this overview of SRs suggests that cupping may be effective for reducing pain. The evidence is insufficient for other indications. All SRs are based on primary studies with a high risk of bias. Therefore, considerable uncertainty remains about the therapeutic value of cupping.

Cupping suffers from being hard to study because you can't have a placebo or a blind testing process.

The quick googling I've done (term was 'science of cupping') leads me to believe there is some pain reduction in the short term or immediately following treatment, but nothing is conclusive.

Blarfk
Dec 26, 2003

MacheteZombie posted:

Cupping suffers from being hard to study because you can't have a placebo or a blind testing process.

Interestingly enough, this is one of the problems with nailing down the effectiveness of acupuncture! Researchers have tried using retractable needles, but they won't stick in your skin.

Intruder
Mar 5, 2003

I got a taste for blown saves
Cupping works because the guys I go to for physical therapy do it

lol

Impossibly Perfect Sphere
Nov 6, 2002

They wasted Luanne on Lucky!

She could of have been so much more but the writers just didn't care!
When I was growing up a good cupping cost about $50.

kiimo
Jul 24, 2003

There it is.

Intruder
Mar 5, 2003

I got a taste for blown saves
Yeah I think we were all kind of waiting for that

Gumbel2Gumbel
Apr 28, 2010

Blarfk posted:

Have they authored any peer-reviewed studies as to it's real, positive effects?

It's just a tool they use and they have amazing credentials in the field.

There are no 'toxins' that get pulled out, which is the traditional Chinese medicine claim that people attack when they dismiss it. It's not going to improve your chi, just loosen you up a lot. Also hurt, like foam rolling and a deep massage.

I'm just saying it's a legitimate and effective tool in bodywork. When looked at from a functional point of view (again, talking only about the sliding cups and not the burning ones) it operates in much the same way as other methods.

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Magnetic North
Dec 15, 2008

Beware the Forest's Mushrooms
Thought maybe you guys might appreciate this.

So Greg Bedard is on Boston Sports radio on Tuesdays, and they asked the question, "Who's the worst fans in the NFL?" He said Patriots fans. I sent him a tweet in appreciation of this fact. In my head, I was thinking "Some loving pathetic homer is going to get snippy about this."

Less than a half hour later, the Platonic Form of Bad Patriots Fan butts in. It was so perfect, so beyond everything I could have hoped. Should have sent a poet.



gently caress Patriots Fans.

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