NewMars posted:

Hey now, there's no need for such insinuations. It's just that I am rather looking for a game where a single combat doesn't take all day, without making everything else take proportionally longer with such things as attribute based xp adjustment and having an individual table-based mechanic for every single mechanical foible.

Arivia posted:

The Black Hack would work. It's very very much the hot thing right now but it's also just a really stripped down simple OSR game.

drrockso20 posted:

I'm pretty sure there's quite a few, although there is a good reason for different classes having different XP requirements, makes it easier to balance them, of the core four Magic-Users level the slowest, while Thieves level the fastest, although it gets a little weird as sometimes Clerics end up leveling faster than Fighters do

gradenko_2000 posted:

This discussion got me thinking about how to implement modern-style "no XP tracking, level when you want" or "milestone leveling" in old-school D&D, where telling everyone that they level-up now technically breaks the game because you're skipping over "uneven leveling" as a balancing mechanic.

The idea that came to me was: whenever you reach a milestone (whatever that definition would be, up to and including "we just played a session"), award everyone an amount of XP that makes at least one person level-up, whoever is closest to that point.

So assuming you have a party of a Fighter, Thief, Cleric and Magic-User each, that would be (and I'm using the AD&D 1e tables as a basis):



So, for example, at the end of session 1, you award everyone 1500 XP each, which gets the Thief and the Cleric up to level 2, but the Fighter and the MU are still at level 1.

At the end of session 2, you award everyone 1000 XP each, which brings them to 2500, which gets the Thief to level 3 and the MU to level 2, but the Cleric and the Fighter are still at level 2.

And so on.

Or don't even think about XP at all, and just keep in mind the order in which people are supposed to gain levels.

This is a list that is 43 entries long, so even if you did something as simplistic as "at the end of every session, at least one person earns a new level", you'd still have enough game to last you almost a year's worth of weekly sessions.

Covok posted:

Can you upload the spreadsheet for that, gradeneko? Seems like it might be useful since you have it set to sort.

LashLightning posted:

but it looks a lot more pleasant to the eyes.

LashLightning posted:

Frog God Games is kickstarting a third reprint of Swords & Wizardry, this time edited by ConTessa founder Stacy Dellorfano and the team she's picked. The rules aren't changing, but it looks a lot more pleasant to the eyes.

Siivola posted:

So, uh, what's the difference between this and the various Basiclones?

Siivola posted:

...But why male models what's the difference?

Siivola posted:

The actual ingame difference between Original and Basic flavours. Mentzer Basic, if that makes a difference.

gradenko_2000 posted:

Pissing off deplorables alone is well worth the price of admission.

Siivola posted:

The actual ingame difference between Original and Basic flavours. Mentzer Basic, if that makes a difference.

St0rmD posted:

There's a decent summary here

Ratpick posted:

Keep doing what you're doing, I always love reading your posts.

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Contingency (Evocation)

Level: 6 Components: V, S, M
Range: 0 Casting Time: 1 turn
Duration: 1 day/level Saving Throw: None
Area of Effect: The magic-user

Explanation/Description: By means of this spell, the magic-user is able to place another spell upon his or her person so that the latter spell will come into effect upon occurrence of the situation dictated during the casting of the contingency spell, The contingency spell and the spell it is to bring into effect — the “companion spell” — are, in effect, cast at the same time (the 1 turn casting time indicated above is a total for both castings). The spell to be brought into effect by the prescribed must be one which affects the magic-user’s person (feather fall, levitation, fly, statue, feign death, etc.) and is of a level no higher than one-third of the experience level of the caster, rounded down: a 4th level “companion spell” maximum at 12th, 13th or 14th level of experience; a 5th level maximum at 15th, 16th, or 17th level of experience, and so forth.

The situation prescribed to bring the spell into effect must be clear, although it can be rather general. For example, a contingency cast with an airy water “companion spell” might prescribe that any time the magic-user is plunged into or otherwise engulfed in water or similar liquid, the airy water spell will instantly come into effect. Likewise, the contingency could bring a feather fall into effect anytime the magic-user falls over 2’ distance. In all cases, the contingency immediately brings into effect the second spell, the latter being “cast” instantaneously when the prescribed circumstances occur. Note that complex, complicated, and/or convoluted prescribed conditions for effecting the play of the dweomer are likely to cause the whole spell complex (the contingency spell and the companion magic) to simply fail when called upon.

The material components of this spell are (in addition to those of the companion spell) 100 gold pieces worth of quicksilver; an elephant ivory statuette of the magic-user; and an eyelash of an ogre magi, ki-rin, or similar spell-using creature. Note that the ivory statuette is not destroyed by the spell casting (although it might be subject to wear and tear), and it must be carried on the person of the spell caster for the contingency spell to perform its function when called upon.

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Contingency

Range: Touch
Duration: Indefinite (see below)
Effect: Prepares one other spell

This powerful spell acts as a trigger for one stated magic-user spell of 4th level or less that does not normally cause damage. While casting a contingency spell, the magic-user must describe one situation. When that situation next occurs, the second spell effect stated appears automatically and immediately, as if cast at that time.

Examples of proper use:

“When I am touched or struck by any living creature that is not a Lawful or Neutral cleric, except for my friends Charlie McGonigle and Sally Silvernose (contingency), then charm monster on the creature touching or striking me (spell effect).”

“When I have eight hit points or less and am in a dungeon about to be damaged (contingency), then dimension door on myself to a destination 1 inch above ground level directly upward or, if that is greater than 360 feet away, to the farthest unoccupied area within range that I have seen within the 12 hour period prior to the existence of this contingency (spell effect).”

Any item or creature can have one contingency spell at most; not even a wish can allow multiple applications. The contingency described can be as detailed or as simple as desired, but is somewhat limited in effect: it must relate to something within 120 feet of the trigger occurrence. A contingency based on a far-off occurrence is beyond the spell’s capacity. The target and effect of the secondary spell must always be specified, and if any needed details are lacking, the secondary spell does not occur.

A contingency spell effect has no maximum duration. It may remain for centuries before the situation described comes to pass.

Kwyndig posted:

Contingency was such a poo poo spell, either your DM let you get away with janky nonsense with it, or it was worthless, and there were basically no guidelines on what it couldn't do or how it worked. Did it interrupt other people's actions? Could it metagame? Who knows! It just says to specify a condition when the second spell goes off and it has to target you. If I tell it to cast teleport to my house when something breaks my skin, and you hit me with the scythe, how much damage do I take? Neither SRD is clear on what happens in this instance because the spell doesn't specify if this counts as an action, and what kind.

gradenko_2000 posted:

Ratpick posted:

I thought the Swords & Misandry thing was just a joke making fun of how people might react, but are people really throwing a fit over the new art not having enough dudes in it?

long-rear end nips Diane posted:

I'm not going to go hunt through forums or anything but you can just look at the comments here: http://www.tenkarstavern.com/2016/10/kickstarter-swords-wizardry-complete.html#comment-form

Having an explicit mission statement of trying to move beyond nostalgic appeal isn't going over well with some people, before you get into the whole all-female art design team