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Who will win the debate?
Tim Kaine
Mike Pence
Epic MRA President Bernie Porn
Bill Mitchell
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cheese eats mouse
Jul 6, 2007

A real Portlander now

Baloogan posted:

what if ur cesar

bitxh better have my money

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Leviathan
Oct 8, 2001

I hear the jury's
still out.. on science.
Fun Shoe

Squizzle
Apr 24, 2008




AARO posted:

Kaine's abortion stance is loving ludicrous. "I support a woman's right to choose whether or not they kill what I personally believe is a human baby."

mfer it make perfect sense and i can explain it when day crew sober take over

but you cnat hurt omeone elses soul you dorj also legal dont affecy how much it happend and kaine dont wanna kill poorbwoman

MadJackal
Apr 30, 2004

paranoid randroid posted:

lol are yall seriously pitching pence as the next big thing

He's going to be a big player in 2020, and you're a fool if you think otherwise.

He "defended" or at least parried every single tough question about Trump's loopy policies. If the party is still largely pushing loopy policies in 2020, then Pence is the GOP's first choice.

magiccarpet
Jan 3, 2005




docbeard
Jul 19, 2011

In a weird (and much lower-magnitude) way, Kaine's flaw tonight was the same as Trump's flaw last Monday. He was too easy to bait, and Pence used that to his advantage more than once. (Though Pence lost his own cool a few times, and it hurt him worse when he did). Pence's complete inability to defend Trump was pretty visible, though.

Kaine was absolutely better at articulating policy, though. And yeah, I wish he'd taken the opportunity to attack Pence on all the anti-woman and anti-LGBT poo poo he did in Indiana, though I'd guess by that point he knew that his attacks weren't really helping him and he decided (probably too late) that the high road was a better idea.

I will be really surprised if there aren't a few more "look, guys, don't tell Donald, but it's okay, Pence is going to be the real president, and did you see how well he did?" comments from the Republicans between now and the election. (And I sincerely hope there are, because, even if that's his actual plan, saying it would utterly infuriate Trump.)

cheese eats mouse
Jul 6, 2007

A real Portlander now
CSPAN CALLER TIME

Mr Hootington
Jul 24, 2008

I'M HAVING A HOOT EATING CORNETTE THE LONG WAY
https://twitter.com/SeanMcElwee/status/783498486893379584

Bip Roberts
Mar 29, 2005

386-SX 25Mhz VGA posted:

why exactly are people saying kaine looked bad?

He pitched Pence poison pills then talked over Pence before he could dig himself a hole.

disjoe
Feb 18, 2011


Even Fox News people are like eh

paranoid randroid
Mar 4, 2007

Mr Hootington posted:

didn't you see his performance randroid????!!!! He CRUSHED it.

hillary would lose againt him!

all this debate did was really hammer home the fact that Clinton is actually really good at debates

plasticowlmachine
Oct 12, 2012

by exmarx

386-SX 25Mhz VGA posted:

why exactly are people saying kaine looked bad? he looked like he was jovially hunting pence for sport

arzying is a hell of a drug

Squizzle
Apr 24, 2008




GAYS FOR DAYS posted:

He looks like a fat skeletor

so keldor???

Nichael
Mar 30, 2011


MadJackal posted:

He's going to be a big player in 2020, and you're a fool if you think otherwise.

He "defended" or at least parried every single tough question about Trump's loopy policies. If the party still largely is pushing loopy policies in 2020, then Pence is the GOP's first choice.

I don't think a man that ugly can be president. No joke.

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



Paging O&R

GBS conservatives are leaking in again, you need to re-stake out your territory

DeepDickPizza
Oct 11, 2012

THREE TIME! THREE TIME!

Philthy posted:

LOL this is actually adorable.

Yeah, they loving stole an Onion picture.

If that's real Drudge, that is.

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

Fidel Castronaut posted:

nah kanye's music is cool and he is cool. he makes WWE heels look like lambs. it's a fun character and his character pisses off Serious Rockist Music Guys, which means he is doing God's work.

Kanye is an awesome musician and entertainer and as long as he stays in his lane I love him.

But fucker insists on leaving his lane.

Philip Rivers
Mar 15, 2010

Pretty disappointed Kaine didn't so much as mention Pence's anti-queer record.

Cthulhu Dreams
Dec 11, 2010

If I pretend to be Cthulhu no one will know I'm a baseball robot.

XyrlocShammypants posted:

Pre-debate: Pence needs to speak to the independents and women in the suburbs or Trump loses.

Post-debate: I think Pence won because he targeted the far right of the party, ignoring independents and women in the suburbs.

The actual goal post shift though is 'Pence winning is defined as helping trump -> Pence winning defined as helping Pence's career'

Timeless Appeal
May 28, 2006
Like look, I'm not saying Kaine came off well. But it's not like Pence just failed. He failed because of measured things Kaine was doing. The optics of this debate were different, but it's the same poo poo as the Presidential debate. Clinton and Kaine both knew exactly what they were doing and controlled the show. The only difference was that Pence just got huffy while doing Ronald Reagan cosplay.

Philthy
Jan 28, 2003

Pillbug
SOmeone tell me what Fox is saying, I can't stomach doing it myself.

docbeard
Jul 19, 2011

Hahaha, thank you Windows 10 for suggesting that I watch the Twitter livestream of the debate.

Just now.

After it's over.

Bip Roberts
Mar 29, 2005

MadJackal posted:

He's going to be a big player in 2020, and you're a fool if you think otherwise.

He "defended" or at least parried every single tough question about Trump's loopy policies. If the party is still largely pushing loopy policies in 2020, then Pence is the GOP's first choice.

He's a mook and could never make it to the top 3 of the clowncar.

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

Gum posted:

If you genuinely believed abortion was murder then you'd be a monster to not oppose it

or you can believe that it is in your view but understand that your perspective is not the only one and the law of the land is that equal access to healthcare and privacy means even things you personally don't like are secured too?

Yoshifan823
Feb 19, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

386-SX 25Mhz VGA posted:

why exactly are people saying kaine looked bad? he looked like he was jovially hunting pence for sport

Interrupting a bunch of garbage lies is still interrupting, I guess.

Nichael
Mar 30, 2011


docbeard posted:

Hahaha, thank you Windows 10 for suggesting that I watch the Twitter livestream of the debate.

Just now.

After it's over.

I got that like 45 minutes in. Better than you, but still not great Microsoft.

AARO
Mar 9, 2005

by Lowtax

Gum posted:

If you genuinely believed abortion was murder then you'd be a monster to not oppose it

a helpful bear
Aug 18, 2004

Slippery Tilde

Epic High Five posted:

Paging O&R

GBS conservatives are leaking in again, you need to re-stake out your territory

lol


also the arzying in this thread has been more entertaining than the debate

Mr Hootington
Jul 24, 2008

I'M HAVING A HOOT EATING CORNETTE THE LONG WAY

paranoid randroid posted:

all this debate did was really hammer home the fact that Clinton is actually really good at debates

agreed. what a shitshow

paranoid randroid
Mar 4, 2007
im sorry i thought we were supposed to be afraid of Ted "Machiavellian Genius" Cruz

Neeksy
Mar 29, 2007

Hej min vän, hur står det till?
Kaine's mistake was making this debate about Trump, as if people hadn't learned enough about him already. If he had gone after Pence for his very apparent shittiness, he could have put the GOP at large on trial.

Man Musk
Jan 13, 2010

https://twitter.com/ndiblasio/status/783495079407259648

paranoid randroid
Mar 4, 2007
yall are fuckin drunk if you think Pence did himself any favors tonight

Ages
Feb 20, 2005

Its just half the puffin juice and the puffin lives and doesnt mind. I promise!
Fun Shoe
The fact that people are pushing Pence as the force of 2020 here in the year 2016 is all the evidence I need that he won't even be in the Republican final four in the next go around.

He'll be keeping Scott Walker and Rick Perry company in the GOP Hall of Shame

MadJackal
Apr 30, 2004

Nichael posted:

I don't think a man that ugly can be president. No joke.



20-25% chance of being the next POTUS.

Nichael
Mar 30, 2011


a helpful bear posted:

lol


also the arzying in this thread has been more entertaining than the debate

I don't think anyone is arzying. I think the narrative will be Pence won but it won't matter at all since Clinton has this wrapped up (or close to it).

MadJackal posted:



20-25% chance of being the next POTUS.

God help me for saying this but Donald is slightly less weird looking than Pence, and he also isn't going to win. Clinton will and she's better looking.

Grey Fox
Jan 5, 2004

Fidel Castronaut posted:

he isn't running for reelection. in 2020 he will have been out of work for four years. also, he will be most well-known for being attached to a joke of a ticket that the GOP will treat like a drunken hookup. no way pence is going to be a force in 2020
Mitt Romney left office in 2007 and got the nomination in 2012.

I don't think Pence will do that well. Think Ted Cruz-ish.

Probably Magic
Oct 9, 2012

Looking cute, feeling cute.
Mike Pence is worse than Donald Trump. Too bad none of the media is really making the case, but c'est la vie.

386-SX 25Mhz VGA
Jan 14, 2003

(C) American Megatrends Inc.,

Yoshifan823 posted:

Interrupting a bunch of garbage lies is still interrupting, I guess.
is this some reference to trump getting hurt for interrupting? cause trump was interrupting like a butthurt child, kaine was interrupting like an adult calling the shots

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Eifert Posting
Apr 1, 2007

Most of the time he catches it every time.
Grimey Drawer

Squizzle posted:

if you think that a majority of American Catholics wpils admit thar thwm yiu habe a ctazy mind darlong

It is the Catholic Dogma. It is said by literally every Catholic priest when they read the gospel. My Catholic High School taught it for multiple years and we had to learn it to take first communion and to be confirmed.

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