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i am practically turgid at the NIMBY meltdown about to ensue in MA you have no idea
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GonadTheBallbarian posted:i am practically turgid at the NIMBY meltdown about to ensue in MA you have no idea
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mass is the weirdest state, because it's ostensibly liberal but super morally puritan. reminder that we only were the first in the nation on gay marriage because of a court ruling, not legislature.
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MN is weird in that we're super liberal but just hate weed, even though I've never personally met someone strongly opposed to legalization, it polls terribly here.
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Sep 28, 2016 18:11
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It might be that Iowa has better growing conditions for weed than Minnesota, and the farmers know that legalization won't benefit them as much.
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i guarantee you religion and culture has way more to do with current polling than any sort of calculated agricultural economics
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how do the various legalization frameworks fit into agribusiness anyway? in colorado it seems like most of the growing is indoors but i did notice some outdoor weed being marketed as 'sungrown' or some such thing. is there a real chance of, like, 500,000 acres of indica just lined up next to the interstate in flyover country someday? im guessing the difficulties with banking are 99% of the reason it's not already happening (lack of interstate trade also cuts at the potential profit margin no doubt), but i could imagine a moral panic situation if they really superscaled it a pretty large part of the flow in some of the rivers up in humboldt and neighboring counties in northwest CA is getting taken up by illegal weed irrigation, i've heard, to the detriment of fish and stuff, so i've heard some hope that legalization will allow those guys to be brought within the legal water rights framework. i bet it'll take a while
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oystertoadfish posted:how do the various legalization frameworks fit into agribusiness anyway? in colorado it seems like most of the growing is indoors but i did notice some outdoor weed being marketed as 'sungrown' or some such thing. is there a real chance of, like, 500,000 acres of indica just lined up next to the interstate in flyover country someday? I don't know about 500,000 acres, but this is the case in Oregon, you'll drive right by it
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weed is easy to grow and indica is practically designed for western colorado if things stay the way they are currently, i don't see any reason why cannabis wouldn't soon become a fairly visible outdoor crop
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the price drop over the past year has been very tangible, and i'm in texas. once CA legalizes, near 100% of colorado's excess product will be heading east if everything goes okay in the northeast, once a couple harvests are brought in, i think you'll see a potentially massive price collapse in every region of the country but the deep south
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Karl Barks posted:I don't know about 500,000 acres, but this is the case in Oregon, you'll drive right by it oh word yeah i hope i have a chance to drive up there sometime id like to visit portland and i havent been to seattle since i was a kid
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That doesn't help me, living in the deep south. gently caress 
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Well Florida (and Arkansas?) have medical on the ballot this year so hopefully we will begin to see some movement down south soon. Still progress will be slow because Mississippi, Arkansas and Florida are the only southern states with voter ballot initiative and we all know the sort of turds that fill southern legislatures.
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Oh so interesting twist on Marijuana votes: So way back in 2014, Oregon was one of the states to legalize recreational marijuana. Several counties had more than 55% of their voters vote against the proposition. Because of this, these counties had the option to prohibit sales and growing* of marijuana within their limits. The deadline to do this was last December. For those counties that missed the deadline, they have ballot propositions this fall to vote on whether they want recreational marijuana businesses in their limits. There are separate questions for the individual cities (e.g., Albany) and unincorporated areas of the county (e.g., Linn County), and they cover marijuana producers, processors, wholesalers, and retailers. In addition, there's also ballot propositions to add a 3% tax on the sales of marijuana (in all counties afaik, not just the banning ones). This is on top of the 17% tax the state has already said they have/would add(?). If a city bans marijuana sales in the area, they are not able to collect revenue from either the local or (iirc) the state taxes. So tl;dr - vote in your local elections in oregon, lots of  stuff coming up. *Excluding personal use, so basically just banning commercial farms
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fat bossy gerbil posted:Well Florida (and Arkansas?) have medical on the ballot this year so hopefully we will begin to see some movement down south soon. Still progress will be slow because Mississippi, Arkansas and Florida are the only southern states with voter ballot initiative and we all know the sort of turds that fill southern legislatures. Florida's interesting since it got 57% (threshold 60%) in an off year. With an election year, Liberals turn out a lot harder which is presumably the big pro-weed base in the South. Idk about Mississippi and Alabama, but I'd like to see the polling.
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Arizona might not be a clear "No" N = 800 Registered voters 50% Yes 40% No 10% Undecided 3.4% MoE If that poll accurately reflects what the vote will be, we might be headed for a clean loving sweep this November. holy poo poo.
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Xelkelvos posted:Florida's interesting since it got 57% (threshold 60%) in an off year. With an election year, Liberals turn out a lot harder which is presumably the big pro-weed base in the South. Idk about Mississippi and Alabama, but I'd like to see the polling. I'm worried because they're bombarding the airwaves with anti-Amendment 2 ads here in Florida, like they did last time. The current ad is all about how your children are going to be able to buy gummy worms if it passes.
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GonadTheBallbarian posted:Arizona might not be a clear "No" To put this into perspective, 5.4% (~1 in 20) of Americans currently live in states with recreational cannabis legal. If there's a clean sweep this November, that number swells to 23.2%, or just under 1 in 4 Americans. This doesn't even touch the fact that the New England states are going to see a lot of tourism/border hopping from metro areas like NYC/Connecticut.
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turnip kid posted:I'm worried because they're bombarding the airwaves with anti-Amendment 2 ads here in Florida, like they did last time. The current ad is all about how your children are going to be able to buy gummy worms if it passes. Itdk, the only ones I've heard are John Morgan advocating for it. Tbf, I usually listen to NPR so I don't actually hear any political ads all too often. Also, I think Morgan has larger recognition on the North Central region compared to the lower parts.
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GonadTheBallbarian posted:i am practically turgid at the NIMBY meltdown about to ensue in MA you have no idea same it will be glorious
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GonadTheBallbarian posted:This doesn't even touch the fact that the New England states are going to see a lot of tourism/border hopping from metro areas like NYC/Connecticut. This is the biggest deal about the whole thing. Denver is like a 2 hour flight from any major cities; Boston has Baltimore, DC, NYC, Philly, and then the massive population from jersey and the rest of new england all within 1.5 hours. Small personal possession is decriminalized pretty much everywhere up here except new hampshire I think, so while the population living in a state with legal weed will be 23%, the population with relatively easy access to legal weed will be much higher
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good god just adding areas within an hour drive bumps the ratio to a hair under 1 in 3 (~31.5%) of americans
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Even though this it's just a matter of visual impression, if we get a clean sweep the literal displayed map of "legal states" is going to start looking really inevitable when a huge chunk of the American west is all sewn up and another branch sliding down from New England. Somehow it'll look just more impressive every time it pops up on the news than if it were the same number/mass of disjointed states. I hope the Wikipedia graphics crew is on the ball to make some modifications to the graphics for the legal weed map once the results post. EDIT: despite the NM legislature not getting around to putting weed on this November ballot (after tossing the ball around a good while), a January poll has NM in favor of legalization with 61%, so that's a ready population waiting for a shot, and would give a cleaner map linking in the Colorado exclave. Not that it matters hugely since you can't legally do weed interstate commerce, just saying the map would look cleaner. TapTheForwardAssist has issued a correction as of 23:07 on Oct 4, 2016 |
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Beyond the 5 states voting this November, are there any comprehensive lists of states ranked by legalization polls to give some idea, in theory, which states are next in the hopper following 2016?
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Montana, Ohio, Michigan, Missouri and possibly Illinois are all likely tries for 2018, but some may be shy in an off year election. Still, 2014 saw Alaska and Oregon go green so if they can do it in an off year states like Michigan and Montana are certainly viable.
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Oklahoma will for sure have medical on the ballot in 2018. No idea if it will pass in a midterm, though. 
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TapTheForwardAssist posted:Beyond the 5 states voting this November, are there any comprehensive lists of states ranked by legalization polls to give some idea, in theory, which states are next in the hopper following 2016? I think we can all assume Utah will be the last to go
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Scrub-Niggurath posted:I think we can all assume Utah will be the last to go You'd think that to one degree, but Utah was surprisingly quick to come over to (limited) medical well before the majority of states. But I think a good chunk of the South and a few Central states (Kansas, Wyoming) won't legalize internally until the Fed devolves it to solely a state issue internally like alcohol.
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TapTheForwardAssist posted:You'd think that to one degree, but Utah was surprisingly quick to come over to (limited) medical well before the majority of states. But I think a good chunk of the South and a few Central states (Kansas, Wyoming) won't legalize internally until the Fed devolves it to solely a state issue internally like alcohol. Which the president can do unilaterally and yet...
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Dpost clucking about 5/5 possibility http://www.thecannabist.co/2016/10/04/recreational-marijuana-polls-election-2016/64599/ pretty exciting times
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I personally think Arizona is pretty important, and will end up being more than just a cherry on top of a good slate. With Nevada, it locks up the West Coast market, cementing the flow of illegal surplus to the east. It's also a huge border state, and combined with California will end trafficking from Mexico. Better still, it's full of semi-arid mountains, much of it land that's unsuitable for anything but indica. A 5/5 victory would really make this seem inevitable in a way that only 4/5 wouldn't. ugh dang i'm gettin' excited
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Hello Cannabis thread I just saw a weed vote commercial in California during Seinfeld
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uh find it on youtube and post that poo poo
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Aliquid posted:uh find it on youtube and post that poo poo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQGGfMc8FXE
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goddamn that's pro
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Colorado's reform of edibles just kicked in today. I forget what my wife said the exact limit is, I wanna say 800 mg of active ingredient is the new daily limit? Anyways the laws are continuing to be tweaked and updated and I hope news of this sort of adaptation reaches the haters - it's not a blanket 'go hog wild' thing. They've been continually re-assessing the regs here ever since legalization started and if something is out of line they fix it.
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I'm really pulling for Massachusetts to pass its recreational bill. Having a toehold in the North East is just as big as California legalizing it from my perspective as a selfish East Coaster. My state is bleeding deficits and cutting education while failing to tax fracking companies for the oil they extract beyond standard corporate taxes. As soon as that giant batch of retards, sometimes referred to as the state house and senate, realizes that we could cut our deficit by a third overnight they're going to start working towards recreational legalization. I'm honestly just sick and tired of dealing with anything other than a licensed business run by professionals. This is going to be a great November. We're still a dumping ground for way overpriced poo poo of garbage quality and it's infuriating.
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saw my first Maine No on 1 signs.... in front of a local pot dealers house and a local head shop.... it is a mystery
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Man Musk posted:Hello Cannabis thread I just saw a weed vote commercial in California during Seinfeld I saw that too lol
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