|
meristem posted:So other insects, arachnids and whatnot, are all artificial....? It would seem so. Like the scorpion the kids (hosts or guests? they don't make it clear, but I'd guess guests for the no-kids reasons discussed earlier) put on the wino's head. The really important thing is that flies are recurrent symbols through the first episode. Notably, the one that lands on Teddy's face as he's gazing off into space while the guests discuss using him for target practice, and the one that lands on Dolores' face that she swats after her dad's malfunction and her own deprogramming. Flies, being from outside the park, cannot be harmed by a host, unless that host's programming goes AWOL.
|
#
?
Oct 5, 2016 04:57
|
|
|
|
| # ? Jun 3, 2024 17:01 |
|
|
It bet the park is on Mars.
|
|
#
?
Oct 5, 2016 04:58
|
|
|
VendaGoat posted:TERMS OF DELOS DESTINATIONS So interesting bits. In 3B it mentions decompression at the Mesa Gold resort. It was said that the location of Westworld is kept secret until you book a trip (I think I saw that before in the thread). Perhaps they didn't make an artificial island which satellites could see. Maybe it's on the ocean floor. So, decompression can mean something like a readjustment period to be in polite society, or maybe they mean that literally. Westworld might be underwater. 6B says that all biomatter you leave behind belongs to Delos, and they can do what they wish with it. Maybe the Hosts are already based on genetic specifications of whoever the designers feel like using? A bit of a stretch there though, maybe the Hosts are constructed out of biomatter, and maybe they recycle and reuse as much as they can even if its from a guest.
|
|
#
?
Oct 5, 2016 05:02
|
|
|
AHAHHAHAH My estimated invoice for a two week stay. Below is an estimated* invoice based on your current itinerary. A 50% deposit will be required upon check-in. Package Type: gold $2,800,000 Length of Stay $200,000/day Mesa Gold Detox Accommodations: suite $280,000 Length of Stay $20,000/day Number of Guests 1 Host Consultation Fee $25,000 Concierge Fee $15,000 Standard Guest Insurance $22,000 Biometric Monitoring Fee $14,000 Arbitration Deposit Fee $5,000 Maintenance & Service Fee $11,000 Child Park Fee $0 Total $3,172,000 We are pleased to accept several methods of payment including premium bank card, select cryptocurrency, or secure wire transfer. As with every part of our service, all transactions will be treated with the utmost discretion. Leading up to your stay, your concierge host will review your package and contact you with more information. We look forward to showing you a world of desire and indulgence you never thought was possible. There are different levels of "game play" and in the gold package it mentions finding the hidden gems and deeper secrets of the park. So maybe Ed Harris is just on a gold package get away.
|
|
#
?
Oct 5, 2016 05:07
|
|
|
VendaGoat posted:AHAHHAHAH My estimated invoice for a two week stay. Where was this found?
|
|
#
?
Oct 5, 2016 05:08
|
|
|
AsInHowe posted:Where was this found? I actually put in my email address and got an email from them and followed the narrative. I kind of want to click "Confirm booking" but, at the same time I don't want a 3 million dollar bill, from time warner, showing up. 
|
|
#
?
Oct 5, 2016 05:11
|
|
|
What in the hell is the "standard guest insurance" for if they've made you sign a waiver against literally anything that could happen to you? I guess it must be for human-on-human griefing. MrMojok fucked around with this message at 05:47 on Oct 5, 2016 |
|
#
?
Oct 5, 2016 05:14
|
|
|
DoctorGonzo posted:Mods please add "Its D-O-L-O-R-E-S" to the thread title. By season two you all will be calling her Delorean. When this baby swats 88 flies an hour, you're gonna see some serious poo poo. Is the twist going to be that the humans are also fake and forgot it and/or all 'natural' life on [RELEVANT PLANETARY BODY] is simply flies? Are the flies also fake, but from a previous generation of construction? Are we simulacra creating simulacra that will in turn create simulacra? yes I do tend to get far ahead of things what about it
|
|
#
?
Oct 5, 2016 05:31
|
|
|
I can't wait for the La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo reveal at the end of the season.
|
|
#
?
Oct 5, 2016 05:33
|
|
|
404notfound posted:I thought the "hobo" part was more to describe how PCs are typically homeless (living from inn to inn) while they go on their murder streak Also the fact that you kill people and then put their clothes on, which outside of videogames is very strange behavior. sector_corrector posted:"All livestock within the Delos parks are Hosts, with the notable exception of flies." That's just in case anybody was doubting what the ending of episode 1 meant. It was pretty clear though. AsInHowe posted:Where was this found? Somebody posted awhile back.... Alehkhs posted:For those of you who like ARGs and/or alt-media worldbuilding, there's at least two "in-Universe" sites out there to dig into:
|
|
#
?
Oct 5, 2016 05:35
|
|
|
The Delos Inc. emails on that second site are great. SUBJECT: RE: FW: ASSET TAMPERING From: Singh, Rohit – Livestock Management, Body Shop (WW)To: Levy, Destin – Livestock Management, Body Shop (WW) I guess you’re finally going to have to get a girlfriend. --------------------------------Forwarded Message------------------------------- To: Delos Employees – Westworld CC: Cullen, Theresa – Quality Assurance (WW) From: Clara Andrus, Quality Assurance (WW) Re: Asset Tampering It has recently come to QA’s attention that certain employees in Livestock Management have forgotten the standards to which we hold all Delos Employees regarding tampering with company assets. Please remember that Delos property does not belong to you: no “experimenting with,” or misappropriating the host merchandise will be tolerated. This is a Zero Tolerance Policy, violation of which is grounds for dismissal. Diana Langley Livestock Management, Body Shop (WW) SUBJECT: MAP ROOM From: Winsett, Brook – Livestock Management, Clean-Up Crew (WW)To: Owen, Charis – Quality Assurance, Surveillance (WW) What makes the map in the map room work? Like, what’s the technology behind it? Is it like lasers or some poo poo? Winsett, Brook Livestock Management, Clean-Up Crew (WW) SUBJECT: RE: MAP ROOM Are you high right now? Owen, Charis Quality Assurance, Surveillance (WW) SUBJECT: RE: RE: MAP ROOM .... Winsett, Brook Livestock Management, Clean-Up Crew (WW Untagged fucked around with this message at 05:48 on Oct 5, 2016 |
|
#
?
Oct 5, 2016 05:41
|
|
|
Gonz posted:I can't wait for the La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo reveal at the end of the season. D HAS COME TO
|
|
#
?
Oct 5, 2016 05:43
|
|
|
quote:UPON ARRIVAL AT WESTWORLD, YOU’LL CHOOSE A HAT TO WEAR INSIDE THE PARK THAT EMBODIES HOW YOU INTEND TO PLAY IT INSIDE. WHICH LOOKS BETTER ON YOU? This is pretty fun and interesting. I need to play around with the various options... So this makes it sound like you do have to earn money, but it sounds like money is very easy to come by... basically like gold in an RPG. We saw that one guy just walk up to the poker table and the other guy just left his chips. You just participate to get money, you don't have to really 'earn' it. VendaGoat posted:They probably give every guest "Disney bucks" for use inside the world. And if they just blow all the Fun Bucks, they can rob a bank or make a withdrawal, depending on the type of character they want to play. feedmyleg posted:I'm hoping for some in-world explanations for how money works. Seeing how one of the bots got up from the poker table as soon as Ed Harris walked up to it, I want it that you can miraculously "win" big after a few hands at the table. Check this out: quote:MONEY IN THE PARK Zaphod42 fucked around with this message at 05:52 on Oct 5, 2016 |
|
#
?
Oct 5, 2016 05:49
|
|
|
JossiRossi posted:So interesting bits. In 3B it mentions decompression at the Mesa Gold resort. It was said that the location of Westworld is kept secret until you book a trip (I think I saw that before in the thread). Perhaps they didn't make an artificial island which satellites could see. Maybe it's on the ocean floor. So, decompression can mean something like a readjustment period to be in polite society, or maybe they mean that literally. Westworld might be underwater. While there is a non-zero possibility that Westworld is inside a dome at the bottom of the Pacific/Atlantic- and it is most certainly somewhere at sea, considering Section 5 of the Terms & Conditions mentions "legal authorities on the mainland"- I'm gonna say that it likely isn't, on account of how very, VERY expensive and difficult it would be to excavate, pump, and construct 83+ basement sublevels underneath several thousand feet of seawater, not to mention that saltwater is one of the most corrosive substances on Earth and would cause the maintenance bills to skyrocket. It's possible, yes, but I think a trip to Westworld would be several orders of magnitude more expensive than what we see now if it was. With that said, "decompression" in this case refers to cultural re-adjustment; the site itself says that Mesa Gold is where you end the trip by mentally adjusting from having spent the past 2-4 weeks camping out in 1896 Montana to going back to working a desk job in 2XXX New York. It's probably also to help you come to psychological terms with anything you did in Westworld that you weren't expecting to do- I would imagine that some visitors have some rather uncomfortable realizations concerning what they're willing to do on a lark. Also, physical decompression is something that only wetsuit divers are concerned with because of the way the human body reacts to the difference between ocean pressure and sea-level air pressure. Submarines and rigid diving suits (JIM suits, basically aquatic space suits) don't worry about that, on account of how those methods essentially have you travelling in a pocket of surface air pressure.
|
|
#
?
Oct 5, 2016 06:04
|
|
|
I had to eat a guy to survive in the hills of westworld. Whelp, time to go back to my accounting job at lehman brothers.
|
|
#
?
Oct 5, 2016 06:07
|
|
|
Watching robodad breakdown scene again, looks like a cardiovascular failiure to me. What a performance.
|
|
#
?
Oct 5, 2016 06:17
|
|
|
Somebody made this, which makes me hopeful that somebody will also make the Paint It Black and Black Hole Sun covers, too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tt8BDwT1P0M
|
|
#
?
Oct 5, 2016 06:32
|
|
|
If you go too far off the beaten path in Westworld, you reach Museworld and then karate and lasers get involved. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3Yc3HhSl1Q
|
|
#
?
Oct 5, 2016 06:40
|
|
|
Someone on reddit posted this. Dolores waking up during the three loops, creepy ps: Anyone knows how to post gifvs? Thanks! http://imgur.com/NX24zCI DoctorGonzo fucked around with this message at 07:04 on Oct 5, 2016 |
|
#
?
Oct 5, 2016 06:48
|
|
|
DoctorGonzo posted:Someone on reddit posted this. Dolores waking up during the three loops, creepy Remove the [url] or [img] tags and just link the gif direct and add v to the end. e: although that is a huge image.
|
|
#
?
Oct 5, 2016 07:20
|
|
|
drunkill posted:Remove the [url] or [img] tags and just link the gif direct and add v to the end. yep, thanks for the answer friend!
|
|
#
?
Oct 5, 2016 07:24
|
|
|
VendaGoat posted:There are different levels of "game play" and in the gold package it mentions finding the hidden gems and deeper secrets of the park. So maybe Ed Harris is just on a gold package get away. At these prices, I really do wonder who Ed Harris is supposed to be (unless a long-running robot with guest privileges, of course). Sure, a billionaire. But what sort? A tech mogul or a financier would not have to discover the secrets of Westworld from the 'inside' - they would probably be able to join the board of investors. A celebrity? Don't think so. A trust fund kid?
|
|
#
?
Oct 5, 2016 07:36
|
|
|
meristem posted:At these prices, I really do wonder who Ed Harris is supposed to be (unless a long-running robot with guest privileges, of course). Sure, a billionaire. But what sort? A tech mogul or a financier would not have to discover the secrets of Westworld from the 'inside' - they would probably be able to join the board of investors. A celebrity? Don't think so. A trust fund kid? My guess is still that his wife died in Westworld and was replaced or subsumed by Delorean. They let him go in free because either Ford feels bad for him as his father-in-law or because he was maybe an employee. I don't think he was an employee though. I think he was against the principle of Westworld as a whole but his wife devoted her life to it.
|
|
#
?
Oct 5, 2016 08:04
|
|
|
theflyingexecutive posted:Delorean. Dolorous Ab.
|
|
#
?
Oct 5, 2016 08:06
|
|
|
Watching this made me want to replay Red Dead Redemption. I wanna be a pretend cowboy too! I'm very fascinated by the idea of the park and seeing how it runs day to day. Things like how quests interact on a design level and what kind of stories they're telling. I want know w more about what kind of crazy poo poo goes in there like cannibal cult with the Shakespeare quoting leader that got mentioned or what kind of mayhem people cause when they get to play Grand Theft Auto: Old West in real life. Maybe I'm as sick as the guests. Maybe the guests are a commentary on people like me. I hope they explore everything they can in this premise before the hosts become self-aware enough to burn the place to the ground and it turns into a less interesting robot rebellion show.
|
|
#
?
Oct 5, 2016 08:48
|
|
|
theflyingexecutive posted:Delorean. I am fully in favour of this.
|
|
#
?
Oct 5, 2016 09:23
|
|
|
Lightning must be really bad or the park is much bigger than we think. 1,400 guests that are there for 12 day stints(?) and the park has been running for 30 years with 11+ deaths. That's around 1 death per 116k people vs. the 1 per 4.3M for lightning we have now.
|
|
#
?
Oct 5, 2016 09:53
|
|
|
Maybe all the robbits act as unintentional lightning rods?
|
|
#
?
Oct 5, 2016 10:04
|
|
|
I liked the touch of Teddy waking up on the train the 3rd time (after being shot during the robbery) and rubbing the right side of his chest (where he had been shot). Going back, he didn't do that when waking up after Ed Harris shot him in the heart at Dolores' house. Also liked that we were told that the old gambler host was the 2nd one ever made (before the reveal that Dolores was the 1st). Really interested in seeing how they bring back the Judas cow idea and what Dolores' pop told her as he continued to whisper to her. One of the best pilots I've seen, and I'm totally cool with some episodes just highlighting the madness that goes on in their world.
|
|
#
?
Oct 5, 2016 10:37
|
|
|
meristem posted:At these prices, I really do wonder who Ed Harris is supposed to be (unless a long-running robot with guest privileges, of course). Sure, a billionaire. But what sort? A tech mogul or a financier would not have to discover the secrets of Westworld from the 'inside' - they would probably be able to join the board of investors. A celebrity? Don't think so. A trust fund kid? He's clearly a pro-gamer, his youtube channel "Let's Play: Westworld" rakes in the dough. S30E02: There Will Be Blood viewers can find out just how little blood a host needs to keep functioning!
|
|
#
?
Oct 5, 2016 11:10
|
|
|
El Jeffe posted:Without remembering 100% of the episode, do you guys think it's possible that Westworld is in an enormous dome, like out of The Truman Show? What makes me wonder that is how perfect the landscape seems to be, as if it might be engineered. It would also explain how they keep people from sneaking in from the borders. In one of the post-pilot interviews Nolan says the environment isn't natural, in fact he uses the word terraformed, which opens up questions...
|
|
#
?
Oct 5, 2016 11:12
|
|
|
Norwegian Rudo posted:In one of the post-pilot interviews Nolan says the environment isn't natural, in fact he uses the word terraformed, which opens up questions... Pacific island terraformed to look like the US west. Don't think too much about the environmental fallout.
|
|
#
?
Oct 5, 2016 11:42
|
|
|
Ghetto Prince posted:Oh hell yes. And if you lead some cultists out into the desert and come back as cannibals, you could call it The Dinner Party, or the Last Supper.
|
|
#
?
Oct 5, 2016 12:49
|
|
|
MrMojok posted:What in the hell is the "standard guest insurance" for if they've made you sign a waiver against literally anything that could happen to you? B'tak would be furious
|
|
#
?
Oct 5, 2016 13:09
|
|
|
meristem posted:At these prices, I really do wonder who Ed Harris is supposed to be (unless a long-running robot with guest privileges, of course). Sure, a billionaire. But what sort? A tech mogul or a financier would not have to discover the secrets of Westworld from the 'inside' - they would probably be able to join the board of investors. A celebrity? Don't think so. A trust fund kid? My guess is that he's one of the first robots to wake up from the dream, but Deleos doesn't know about him quite yet.
|
|
#
?
Oct 5, 2016 14:47
|
|
|
They keep very strict track of all the hosts. I find it unlikely one would gain sentience and roam around messing with the world without the company knowing. I am fairly confident Ed Harris is some bored rich person who loves the game but now wants to pretty much get to the "end" or whatever deeper level there is
|
|
#
?
Oct 5, 2016 15:09
|
|
|
meristem posted:At these prices, I really do wonder who Ed Harris is supposed to be (unless a long-running robot with guest privileges, of course). Sure, a billionaire. But what sort? A tech mogul or a financier would not have to discover the secrets of Westworld from the 'inside' - they would probably be able to join the board of investors. A celebrity? Don't think so. A trust fund kid? This takes place in the not so near future. As we've said before, with inflation who knows what those values really represent. Its all $Texas as far as we know. In the future $20,000 could be a lot of money or it could be like ten bucks. 
|
|
#
?
Oct 5, 2016 15:14
|
|
|
The scene where the host turns on his buddies and starts pouring milk on everyone... at one point he's drinking the milk and it starts pouring out of a couple of holes in his body. Are we meant to assume that another host shot him, the rounds hit, but his "damage" routine didn't kick in like it was supposed to? If so, makes me wonder what would have happened if a guest had shot him during his little episode/breakdown. e: for clarity MrMojok fucked around with this message at 15:56 on Oct 5, 2016 |
|
#
?
Oct 5, 2016 15:41
|
|
|
AwkwardKnob posted:While watching, I sort of predicted-to-myself that the AI's would start showing signs of Rampancy due to that upgrade giving them access to a "subconscious" of their past experiences. My take was that it was done on purpose by Anthony Hopkins, however, as a sort of petri dish experiment to push their realism and AI qualities outside parameters. The way he talked about Humans having gotten as good as they're going to get pointed me in that direction, and I still felt that way when he gave his little light-hearted excuse about making an occasional mistake to his head programmer. Like, sure dude, you make mistakes all the time...? Pretty sure that in this world 5,000,000TB of storage space would probably cost like 3 pence. Even now there's a bunch of unused resources in devices and stuff, just because it's cheaper to leave it in than to take it out.
|
|
#
?
Oct 5, 2016 15:42
|
|
|
|
| # ? Jun 3, 2024 17:01 |
|
|
Riso posted:Pacific island terraformed to look like the US west. Do we know for certain the show is set on Earth? If it's on another planet that would explain why the staff have to rotate home, rather then simply taking a car or helicopter.
|
|
#
?
Oct 5, 2016 15:48
|
|