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lmao haven't seen meltdowns in this thread since release, guess the games not dead
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Did someone say cats?!? Also I got all the new cats for home instance and they beat each other up. The guardian one is the worst because you need a HoT chef recipe that is account bound and cost 100 crystalline ore or 75 proof of heroics + 20 silver. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgFaqI2Jv98
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well I know what i'm doing when I get home from work.
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Azathoth posted:I played this at launch and for a few months afterwards, going so far as to get a character to the max level, but quit when the endgame was "check this external website to see which world boss will spawn next, go to spot, hit it a couple times, collect loot, repeat". I understand that there's a whole bunch of new stuff available and I'm looking to come back. I recently started playing this game, and bought HoT as soon as i hit 80 (afaik it offers nothing to sub-80 characters?) and i do not regret that one bit. GW2 is legit the most fun i have ever had in any MMO, including the "first mmo experience" type of fun. I played WoW for nearly 12 years and recently returned to it when its most recent expansion launched (taking a break from GW2) and it is difficult to get into now. GW2 does so many things so well, the account bound nature of everything is amazing, the professions are interesting, the skill mechanics are great, the UI works super well. I don't really know how GW2 was pre-HoT and i have mainly played HoT content but it is hella fun. Gliding (you can glide in the pre-HoT world as well!) is tons of fun. Exploring the HoT maps (labyrinths) is very interesting and its such a huge sense of accomplishment when you realise you can navigate around with ease and even help newer players move around. The events are fun as well, huge hour long events that culminate in a boss fight. My only 3 gripes are: 1. if you miss out on the start of a HoT event it can be over an hour before anything starts again as all the events start at roughly the same time. 2. ANET seems to really push/force people to raid for some reason that i can't really understand. Raids are tuned for having ascended gear, yet ascended gear is the best gear. Raids are traditionally a place where you get gear upgrades, and one of the prime ways to entice elitist players into staying in your MMO so they can lord their fancy gear over filthy casual scum who can't get said gear. 3. The community is extremely toxic, far worse than WoW (I honestly believe this is because i play GW2 on US servers but WoW on EU servers. You americans are so hostile towards random people, holy poo poo. If you ask a question in map chat there's an avalanche of oneupmanship in trying to come up with the most sassy or trolly response, virtually no one ever actually answers your question. There is also always so much hostility, racial slurs, meme spam and creepy poo poo. The goon guild(s) chat is great though, and goons are as always great to play with!)
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Ineptitude posted:3. The community is extremely toxic, far worse than WoW (I honestly believe this is because i play GW2 on US servers but WoW on EU servers. You americans are so hostile towards random people, holy poo poo. If you ask a question in map chat there's an avalanche of oneupmanship in trying to come up with the most sassy or trolly response, virtually no one ever actually answers your question. There is also always so much hostility, racial slurs, meme spam and creepy poo poo. The goon guild(s) chat is great though, and goons are as always great to play with!)
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Ineptitude posted:3. The community is extremely toxic, far worse than WoW (I honestly believe this is because i play GW2 on US servers but WoW on EU servers. You americans are so hostile towards random people, holy poo poo. If you ask a question in map chat there's an avalanche of oneupmanship in trying to come up with the most sassy or trolly response, virtually no one ever actually answers your question. There is also always so much hostility, racial slurs, meme spam and creepy poo poo. The goon guild(s) chat is great though, and goons are as always great to play with!) Idk man, I've only ever seen what Tyblazitar describes, and I'm on Maguuma.
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Oct 5, 2016 12:46
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I'm on Tarnished Coast, people are friendly until they find out you're not here to erp e: though I never play spvp and I'm a total jobber in wvw
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Likewise to Generic Octopus. I've occasionally had to turn LA mapchat off, and people can get frustrated when they're hunting for daily events, but I've rarely encountered straight-up asshats in the wild. When it happens, it's easy enough to block and report them.
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Oct 5, 2016 13:09
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This game has probably the best community of any MMO I've played. The game by design encourages cooperation instead of assholishness and it really shows.
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Oct 5, 2016 13:40
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I liked Factions because it brought in missions that pushed mechanics of energy management on massive waves of enemies by having them time based for the most part. I didn't like Nightfall because it moved away from that and started back to Prophecies style missions.
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Ineptitude posted:2. ANET seems to really push/force people to raid for some reason that i can't really understand. Raids are tuned for having ascended gear, yet ascended gear is the best gear. Raids are traditionally a place where you get gear upgrades, and one of the prime ways to entice elitist players into staying in your MMO so they can lord their fancy gear over filthy casual scum who can't get said gear. I don't really see ANET pushing raids that hard. They introduced them for people who wanted harder instanced content (that is, content that was more than stack in a corner and cleave mobs down), and in that respect, I think they've been a pretty big success. There is nothing that comes out of raids, other than skins, that you can't get elsewhere in the game now that Bloodstone Fen and Ember Bay have been released. I'm not really sure where you are getting that raids are tuned for ascended gear. Is it because LFG adverts say you need it? Because a dev said it once pre-HoT, maybe? Regardless, this is untrue. Exotics gear is more than enough to finish the raids. The group I run with has, or had for many months, multiple people in exotics only. edit: If you're trying to put together ascended gear for a raid, ascended weapons and trinkets make the largest difference when upgrading from exotics and are significantly cheaper than upgrading armor. In addition to the 5% stat upgrade, weapons also get a weapon power upgrade which is why it's the most effective upgrade, and trinkets get a built-in ascended gem upgrade. I don't know anyone who actually puts exotic gems in exotic trinkets, but if you do, then the ascended trinkets are only a minor upgrade. Xenix fucked around with this message at 14:36 on Oct 5, 2016 |
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Oct 5, 2016 14:19
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That's one of the things I've particularly liked about the last couple episodes of the Living Story: scrubs like me, who don't raid, still get to play with super stripped-down versions of some of the bosses.
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Oct 5, 2016 14:26
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The latest fractal & fractal reworks have been alright for tougher instanced content.
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Oct 5, 2016 14:28
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Ineptitude posted:2. ANET seems to really push/force people to raid for some reason that i can't really understand. Raids are tuned for having ascended gear, yet ascended gear is the best gear. Raids are traditionally a place where you get gear upgrades, and one of the prime ways to entice elitist players into staying in your MMO so they can lord their fancy gear over filthy casual scum who can't get said gear. You don't need all ascended gear to pug raids. Having exotic armor and having ascended weapons and trinkets/rings is often enough. Fractals are the easiest way to get ascended gear. The only reason to do the raids now is the legendary armor. There also some YouTube videos of people clearing wings with all green gear or whatever.
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Bieeardo posted:Likewise to Generic Octopus. I've occasionally had to turn LA mapchat off, and people can get frustrated when they're hunting for daily events, but I've rarely encountered straight-up asshats in the wild. When it happens, it's easy enough to block and report them. I dunno it can be a little funny when internet strangers start digging into things so politically charged while running around on a bunny eared, omni aura'd white lady in the middle of a fantasy town.
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Bieeardo posted:That's one of the things I've particularly liked about the last couple episodes of the Living Story: scrubs like me, who don't raid, still get to play with super stripped-down versions of some of the bosses. I do raids when I can and I like this too. Getting people in the open world used to raid mechanics without the need for tight organisation. I do find that despite raid requirements (which I think are fair for high skill level pve content), the community around raids is pretty friendly and helpful. Unlike fractals, who think they're top poo poo because they have money for AR.
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I like open world VG but open world Sloth is useless for learning the fight. I really wish she did the wet dog shake at least since that's the most important attack to learn and by the time you see it in a raid there's usually so much going on that it's much harder to spot. I'd love some practice at avoiding it in a less charged atmosphere, myself. I'm also on US servers and find the community to generally be very pleasant, except for major city mapchat, heart of the mists and WvW. Even when a big meta fails or something there'll usually be one, maybe two angry people and everyone else in mapchat telling them to chill the gently caress out, it's just a game.
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malhavok posted:This game has probably the best community of any MMO I've played. The game by design encourages cooperation instead of assholishness and it really shows. Totally this, I'm not sure what that poster above saw, but GW2's community is annoyingly nice at times. This thread can be worse! 
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CLAM DOWN posted:Totally this, I'm not sure what that poster above saw, but GW2's community is annoyingly nice at times. This thread can be worse! pvp lobby chat is obviously not included in this. But nobody cares about pvp lobby chat.
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Oct 5, 2016 16:33
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Maguuma wvw map/team chat is pure cancer, pve maps though yeah people are generally helpful.
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Ineptitude posted:Raids are tuned for having ascended gear People have cleared the first wing while wearing blues and greens Pubs being idiots who demand full ascended is a far cry from the raids actually needing it. Magres fucked around with this message at 16:42 on Oct 5, 2016 |
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Not shown: The sheer amount of practice and team building it takes to pull this off. To say that a group can feasibly do it in blue/green or even white gear alone means you don't need ascended gear would be like saying that somebody like Zoast can finish Super Metroid in 48 minutes, therefore, the game shouldn't take more than 50.
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Oct 5, 2016 16:47
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I've done fine raiding in exotics. Ascended weapons do more to increase your damage since they have higher weapon damage in addition to the superficially higher stats so if you feel like you need any gear to prepare yourself for a raid just get an ascended weapon.
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Oct 5, 2016 16:51
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i have ascended weapons on my guys but if any of them are in exotics or naked or whatever i havent noticed
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Ascended weapons are good but if any group for anything demands ascended armour you can safely assume they have mental developmental issues.
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Never raid in any video game. I did it for years in wow, and it wasn't worth it. It's never worth it.
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Oct 5, 2016 17:24
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GW2 raids are easy, just join a group that's already knows how to do it and get carried. *cough* SFD weekend raid *cough*
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Sekkira posted:Not shown: The sheer amount of practice and team building it takes to pull this off. "Tuned for Ascended gear" means requires ascended gear or the raid cannot be completed. Raids are not tuned for Ascended gear. I'm not saying that raids are trivial or anything, just that the idea that they demand and require pink gear is wrong 
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Visidan posted:GW2 raids are easy, just join a group that's already knows how to do it and get carried. *cough* SFD weekend raid *cough* 
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Oct 5, 2016 17:48
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^^^ aw man what happened to your asura fetish av
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Magres posted:"Tuned for Ascended gear" means requires ascended gear or the raid cannot be completed. No, it doesn't.
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Magres posted:^^^ This one is about Mercy being creepy about butts. I thought it was fitting. Maybe someday I'll figure out a way to fit the asurabutt in there.
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Magres posted:I'm not saying that raids are trivial or anything, just that the idea that they demand and require pink gear is wrong On the contrary, a pug group probably hasn't raided together and doesn't have the nuance of working together that a dedicated raid group possesses from the regular practice together. Ascended makes every hit or heal or whatever matter that much more, making up for the lack of that nuance. Despite this, from my experience, the only pugs I've been in that have gear checked somebody have done so only because of issues showing up in the run (VG not focusing chronotank, might not hitting as high on a constant basis) and the issue was with the stats of gear, build. Not so much whether it was ascended or not. It's usually just assumed that everybody is running ascended and knows the mechanics.
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Sekkira posted:On the contrary, a pug group probably hasn't raided together and doesn't have the nuance of working together that a dedicated raid group possesses from the regular practice together. Ascended makes every hit or heal or whatever matter that much more, making up for the lack of that nuance. The power of friendship is way more than 5% stats or w/e on your armor. And people being able to do it in greens/blues means that having exotics already gives you the numerical advantage.
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LITERALLY MY FETISH posted:The power of friendship is way more than 5% stats.
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LITERALLY MY FETISH posted:The power of friendship is way more than 5% stats or w/e on your armor. 5% stats times 10 team members means you can lose up to half idiot
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yeah like I have only done a fraction of a raid ever but it really seems "listen to the loving com" is more important than the exotic/asc divide could ever be. Pinks are nice to have but that's about it.
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Oct 5, 2016 18:24
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Why not both?
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Visidan posted:GW2 raids are easy, just join a group that's already knows how to do it and get carried. *cough* SFD weekend raid *cough* I can do it drunk and while on my laptop. Gw2 raids are nice like that.
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We've straight murdered Sloth without breaking a sweat and we've had 9 dead with a warrior in vengeance killing Sloth (yay Cygni). Pinks don't mean poo poo.
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