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It's pretty great how web development has kept being terrible in new exciting ways for 20 years now!
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Sep 28, 2016 07:42
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I'm already exited for HTML 5.1 
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Sep 28, 2016 09:54
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Wheany posted:It's pretty great how web development has kept being terrible in new exciting ways for 20 years now! If it kept being terrible in the same old ways, then you wouldn't be forced to relearn everything every 4-6
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Sep 28, 2016 15:26
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Sereri posted:I'm already exited for HTML 5.1 "We want to make our site HTML5. Do you do that?"
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Sep 28, 2016 15:27
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Granted, the terrible of web dev ten years ago (when I swore it off) was a hell of a lot worse than the current terrible.
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Sep 28, 2016 15:55
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I haven't been following Jest since I got disgusted with how slow it was a year or so ago. Have they managed to make it fast yet? I keep seeing stories come across my feeds about Jest and it makes me want to give it another shot.
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Sep 28, 2016 16:13
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Thermopyle posted:I haven't been following Jest since I got disgusted with how slow it was a year or so ago. Just finished porting a whole bunch of tests over to Jest and it's way, way faster. With the snapshot testing it's also been crazily faster to write tests for components with.
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Sep 28, 2016 16:49
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Thermopyle posted:I haven't been following Jest since I got disgusted with how slow it was a year or so ago. According to noted Smart Man™ Dan Abramov, it's much faster now.
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Sep 28, 2016 17:31
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Video about new React Router 4: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vur2dAFZ4GE Audio is a little crackly, but it was interesting. The new router actually looks pretty amazing, and resolves all the stuff I ever had a problem with previous versions. Hooray.
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Sep 30, 2016 17:07
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Lumpy posted:Video about new React Router 4: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vur2dAFZ4GE drat that's great stuff. I really identify with the feelings he describes about using react-router. It just feels like you're fighting against something. BTW, here's the docs for v4. Thermopyle fucked around with this message at 21:42 on Sep 30, 2016 |
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Sep 30, 2016 21:35
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Anyone using the Polymer Project? I am getting lost in all of the javascript options and since I don't care about browser compatibility (can tell users, just use Chrome's latest version). Or would skipping Polymer and going straight to web components be an option?
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Oct 2, 2016 19:55
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Uziel posted:Anyone using the Polymer Project? I am getting lost in all of the javascript options and since I don't care about browser compatibility (can tell users, just use Chrome's latest version). Or would skipping Polymer and going straight to web components be an option? I think the real question is, why do you think you need Polymer or web components?
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Oct 2, 2016 23:11
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Thermopyle posted:I think the real question is, why do you think you need Polymer or web components? Polymer popped up in a discussion when we were looking at the technology used in one of our company's external customer facing apps so I guess that prompted the question since I've been working my way through react and am toying around with redux and mobx. Uziel fucked around with this message at 14:34 on Oct 3, 2016 |
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Oct 3, 2016 12:04
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Uziel posted:Ah yes, the good old "your question is not your actual question" haha. In thinking about it, I guess my real question is: is there a front end framework/library/etc that is best suited when you have 100% control over what browser a user has and don't need to care about compatibility? Being that my apps are solely for use on an internal network, I can enforce usage of Chrome and have full control over technology choices as well. Are you talking "makes things look good" type of library, a "makes things easy to code", or a "does both at the same time"? My guess is the first, but I'm not sure.
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Oct 3, 2016 12:30
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Lumpy posted:Are you talking "makes things look good" type of library, a "makes things easy to code", or a "does both at the same time"? My guess is the first, but I'm not sure.
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Oct 3, 2016 13:00
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Uziel posted:Ah yes, the good old "your question is not your actual question" haha. In thinking about it, I guess my real question is: is there a front end framework/library/etc that is best suited when you have 100% control over what browser a user has and don't need to care about compatibility? Being that my apps are solely for use on an internal network, I can enforce usage of Chrome and have full control over technology choices as well. If you can enforce the latest version of Chrome, any of the next gen SPA frameworks will be fine (Angular 2, Aurelia, React). Your decision will likely come down to personal preference for how they feel. I'd try doing some basic tutorials on each of them and see how you like each one.
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Oct 3, 2016 17:18
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This is how I feel reading this thread sometimes. 
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Oct 4, 2016 03:38
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Read that this morning and had the exact same thought.
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Oct 4, 2016 03:40
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Godammit I can't use Gulp anymore? The gently caress is webpack. Learning JS is dumb
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Oct 4, 2016 04:22
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ddiddles posted:Godammit I can't use Gulp anymore? The gently caress is webpack. No, you can use gulp.... to use webpack... 
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Oct 4, 2016 04:49
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Use whatever makes you happy & helps you get work done, don't worry about it too much.
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Oct 4, 2016 05:30
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I thought using React would solve all my spaghetti code problems and everything would be glorious and clean and pure. Turns out you can take the man out of the spaghetti but you can't take the spaghetti out of the man. At least the pasta is 200% easier to write now.
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Oct 4, 2016 06:53
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"That’s exactly why you hear me push back when I hear you mention another library!!! ;-)" My project's senior architect in response to that piece. To be fair, it's infinitely easier now to write up an Aurelia application that it was to jury rig an SPA with jQuery as I had to do in my last project. It's a horrible, terrible adventure learning all these tools and making some sense out of it all, but once the hard work is done, productivity improves. I found that being overwhelmed by choice was the worst part of the process. The memories of the SystemJS/Webpack/RequireJS arguments I had with myself keep me awake at night.
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Oct 4, 2016 13:10
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I've had to revert to jquery in my new job (among other special horrors), and I spend most of the day thinking to myself how much easier it would be in angular.
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Oct 4, 2016 13:33
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I'm actually pretty pleased with the state of the js right now, with the one huge exception being my lack of meaningful integration testing, what are you goons using?
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Oct 4, 2016 13:41
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Kekekela posted:I'm actually pretty pleased with the state of the js right now, with the one huge exception being my lack of meaningful integration testing, what are you goons using? I get to a point when I'm very pleased... then Webpack 2.0 and react-router 4.0 come out. Then I fight the "I have to be current" monster who lives inside of me who can't be happy knowing that my stuff works great and will continue to work great even if some of the libraries are *gasp* several weeks old...
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Oct 4, 2016 14:17
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I'm in the middle of learning C#/.net/MVC/EntityFramework/jQuery for work and... it's making me wish I could just do everything in Node and JS.
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Oct 4, 2016 14:44
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I try to live by a policy wherein I don't really worry about upgrading my tooling and libraries but once a year or so. I've got a frontend-tooling-and-libraries repo that contains my complete setup with my commonly used libraries. It has webpack all configured as well as package.json, eslint, blah blah blah. package.json has library versions pinned to the major version. Then once in a blue moon I'll revisit it all. Of course it usually takes a couple days to iron out everything that has changed. I've actually been working on updating it over the past week or so.
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Oct 4, 2016 15:29
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Does anyone have experience using Elm in a real project? It's the latest stop in my functional programming vision quest (after Haskell and before Elixir), and I like a lot of what it does, but I'm also wondering how practical it is to use and maintain an Elm project day-to-day.
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Oct 4, 2016 15:32
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I may have asked this before: How many of you work in a design firm type of thing, where you're constantly making new/updated sites for a variety of clients Vs Working for a company and only updating their site(s)?
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Oct 5, 2016 12:18
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Lumpy posted:some of the libraries are *gasp* several weeks old... 
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Oct 5, 2016 12:38
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I wanted to try React with TypeScript and followed the tutorial here https://www.typescriptlang.org/docs/handbook/react-&-webpack.html Using that project as a base, I got my toy project to a state where it almost Just Works when you run npm install and then webpack
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Oct 5, 2016 12:49
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Lumpy posted:will continue to work great even if some of the libraries are *gasp* several weeks old...
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Oct 5, 2016 13:17
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The Merkinman posted:I may have asked this before: I work for a company, but it's large enough to have several different departments with unique goals and projects. It's all for the company in the end, but it feels like doing work for a handful of regular clients.
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Oct 5, 2016 13:56
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Wheany posted:I wanted to try React with TypeScript and followed the tutorial here https://www.typescriptlang.org/docs/handbook/react-&-webpack.html Part of the point, though, is that you're already way beyond the knowledge of that (hypothetical) guy just because you know to look up TypeScript. Good link, BTW
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Oct 5, 2016 15:18
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After a year's hiatus doing backend and big data stuff, I'm back to poo poo up this thread - one of my first projects is untangling a page that contains jQuery, Angular 1, and React. Praise Javascript!
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Oct 5, 2016 15:26
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Latest State of JS survey results now available. http://stateofjs.com/
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Oct 5, 2016 23:15
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I have a less question.code:
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Oct 6, 2016 00:12
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huhu posted:Why is @gray-border being applied to every li in the ul? No obvious reason. Something else must be overriding the style.
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huhu posted:I have a less question. Can you post the outputted CSS?
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