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Manatee Cannon posted:nobody should be surprised that launch vr is disappointing. it will take time for devs to do much with it because it's so new. the next iteration of vr headsets is likely where you'll see fully fledged games that aren't just one off gimmicks Yeah this is very true and everybody needs to keep it in mind. I'm definitely going to get a PSVR anyways and look forward to what kinda crazy games people come up with. We're far more likely to get good games on PSVR than VIVE because of the market size problem. But that said, I do have to admit I'm a bit concerned about the playstation move / eye side of the equation.
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I said come in! posted:What is absolutely required for hardware for all VR games on PS4? Like is the camera a requirement? Camera is required for absolutely anything to do with PSVR. The Move is not, but apparently it's strongly recommended. But yeah a common theme in all the write ups I've seen is that the setup suffers a lot from the Move and camera being 6-year-old tech that serve to drag the rest of the experience down. I can understand why Sony decided to recycle them because not doing so surely would have added a lot to the system's cost but there's no question that motion tracking tech has advanced a lot since those peripherals first came ou
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I said come in! posted:What is absolutely required for hardware for all VR games on PS4? Like is the camera a requirement? Yeah, get the pack with the camera and the move sticks. You shouldn't half rear end the VR revolution!!!!
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Oct 5, 2016 15:31
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Oh poo poo mafia iii is shipping today from amazon. I hope it's not poo poo.
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Digital Foundry released their PSVR review today. Said it was the most comfortable of the VR headsets. It's use of RGB helps make up for the lower resolution. Any side-to-side movements made him nauseous. The PS4 Pro helped with some AA issues the standard PS4 had with jaggies. And the use of the move sticks had some tracking issues, especially if you turn away from the camera at all (so it had to guess what you were doing since the move stick was out of sight). The field of view wasn't as good as the other VR headsets and gave a "binocular" feel at times. Sounds promising. He said was he was less concerned with the lower resolution as he was with games getting the AA done right. So, it looks like the PS4 Pro may have more benefits with the PSVR. So anyone with a 1080p TV that was considering upgrading to a Pro, if you have any PSVR plans, that is another reason to upgrade I guess.
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Oct 5, 2016 17:12
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Oct 5, 2016 17:16
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I'll get a Pro if my launch unit breaks.
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Oct 5, 2016 17:17
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Housh posted:Oh poo poo mafia iii is shipping today from amazon. I hope it's not poo poo. Its supposd to have a shadow of mordor style nemesis system right? That alone has me considering checking it out.
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Oct 5, 2016 17:18
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Trash Trick posted:Please no one "upgrade" to ps4 pro If someone has a 4k tv (with decent, low lag HDR), why not?
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FireMrshlBill posted:If someone has a 4k tv (with decent, low lag HDR), why not? I think it sets a poor precedent for the console landscape. Devs having to consider two boxes is just bad, to me.
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Oct 5, 2016 17:20
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Trash Trick posted:Please no one "upgrade" to ps4 pro if developers give it some decent support I'll buy one definitely not on day 1 tho
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Oct 5, 2016 17:22
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haveblue posted:I'll get a Pro if my launch unit breaks. I'm getting a Pro because my launch unit is dying. Starting to get graphical artifacts and I've had the encoding on remote play go crazy.
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Zaphod42 posted:Its supposd to have a shadow of mordor style nemesis system right? That alone has me considering checking it out. I don't think so? You have 3 lieutenants and every time you take over territory, you choose one to be in charge of it. There's a conflict system between those 3 if you favor one. More benefits, but it makes the other 2 mad etc.
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Aphrodite posted:I don't think so?  some goon told me it did, but yeah it sounds like it doesn't quite go all the way.There are some enemy gangs and they have leaders, lieutenants, goons, etc. and you can hunt them down and kill them in order to weaken the operations and move in on them and stuff, but I don't think it dynamically generates new gang members or they level up and gain traits or anything fun like that. Lame!
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goferchan posted:Camera is required for absolutely anything to do with PSVR. The Move is not, but apparently it's strongly recommended. But yeah a common theme in all the write ups I've seen is that the setup suffers a lot from the Move and camera being 6-year-old tech that serve to drag the rest of the experience down. I can understand why Sony decided to recycle them because not doing so surely would have added a lot to the system's cost but there's no question that motion tracking tech has advanced a lot since those peripherals first came ou I hope that Sony's plan is to leverage their old peripherals for the first PSVR rev just to keep the price down and eventually release an updated kit that's better integrated with more accurate tracking. Early adopters who are all hyped up might put up with these issues, but no one else will. I'm already feeling better about not getting the preorder. I think I'm gonna wait for at least one more Battlezone-quality release before I start thinking seriously about getting a PSVR (maybe RIGS). A bunch of gee-whiz demos with tracking issues just isn't gonna do it for me. I guess that money's going toward a PS4 Pro 
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I posted this in the store thread, but, wait, apparently Thumper is coming out next week?
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Manatee Cannon posted:nobody should be surprised that launch vr is disappointing. it will take time for devs to do much with it because it's so new. the next iteration of vr headsets is likely where you'll see fully fledged games that aren't just one off gimmicks Thing is, if not enough people pick it up there won't be a next iteration of VR headsets. The GB guys said the PSVR has the best selection of games they actually want to play of all the headsets available, but the head tracking (using now-old tech) just isn't good enough and lets it down massively.
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Trash Trick posted:I think it sets a poor precedent for the console landscape. Ya, I hate the idea that they are doing it and I don't buy for a minute that games won't eventually run poorly on the standard PS4 as they focus on the Pro. I think Sony will get relaxed about it after awhile when the backlash would be lower. But since it is done, if you will benefit enough from a Pro (4k tv or the PSVR apparently), then I don't see a problem in getting it. It sets a precedent, but I see next gen being more of a PC + Nintendo console gen anyway unless PS and XB push some more exclusives.
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glam rock hamhock posted:I posted this in the store thread, but, wait, apparently Thumper is coming out next week? Rhythm action game Thumper out next week http://www.pcgamer.com/rhythm-action-game-thumper-out-next-week/ 
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CrashCat posted:Yes, Thumper is out next week idgi Anything happening next week?
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MZ posted:Thing is, if not enough people pick it up there won't be a next iteration of VR headsets. that's what the second line of my post is talking about
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Trash Trick posted:Please no one "upgrade" to ps4 pro What if it made Rocket League even better?
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Detective No. 27 posted:What if it made Rocket League even better? You can't improve perfection.
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Trash Trick posted:Please no one "upgrade" to ps4 pro Don't tell me how to live my life!
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TaurusOxford posted:You can't improve perfection.
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I guess Sony and Bethesda worked something out because mods are back on for Skyrim and Fallout 4 in what sounds like a diminished form?
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Didn't this exact same song and dance play out with Unreal Tournament III a decade ago?
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Policenaut posted:I guess Sony and Bethesda worked something out because mods are back on for Skyrim and Fallout 4 in what sounds like a diminished form? That makes perfect sense given Sony's track record. I remember them removing some editor features from Disgaea 4 because they didn't want it used to make offensive or potentially copyright infringing content.
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Nail Rat posted:Didn't this exact same song and dance play out with Unreal Tournament III a decade ago? I did some stuff with that and I remember they let people upload basically any kind of mods, and eventually if you loaded too many that were too powerful for the PS3 you could potentially fry it.
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Props to Bethesda for working on that. I poo poo on them a lot but at least they sorted it out.
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MZ posted:Thing is, if not enough people pick it up there won't be a next iteration of VR headsets.
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Policenaut posted:I guess Sony and Bethesda worked something out because mods are back on for Skyrim and Fallout 4 in what sounds like a diminished form? Oh well, that's business, gotta sell new poo poo first before you worry about making what you already sold
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Trash Trick posted:I think it sets a poor precedent for the console landscape. It sounds more like the pro dev kit has tools to quickly create different profiles out of the base ps4 version than having two separate targets for real but i understand your point in spirit
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Housh posted:Oh poo poo mafia iii is shipping today from amazon. I hope it's not poo poo. Weird I didn't even realize it was a Friday release. That doesn't happen often. I'm still fully into Destiny. Now that amazon.ca gives two weeks after launch for 20% discount I may cancel and see how the reviews/general consensus goes. UnfortunateSexFart fucked around with this message at 21:07 on Oct 5, 2016 |
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Shadows of Mordor is really fun but I still see why I didn't get into it the first time I tried to play. The early game is really bad about letting you gently caress off doing open-world poo poo without realizing that the game hasn't yet unlocked or explained a ton of mechanics or just its basic structure since that stuff's hidden behind the main quest. I know some games (Zeldas?) are notorious for spanning the tutorial over like eight hours but feel like they would've done better to confine you to a small part of the map and/or not populate the world with collectibles and sidequests until you've beelined the story for a little while.
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Mafia III: I just want to see how well they pull off that story and setting. Hope it's not ACIII levels bad.
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There's a part where you get to machine gun a Klan rally.
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Aphrodite posted:There's a part where you get to machine gun a Klan rally. Sold !
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