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gen 3 is the gen that will always be there for you, and help you out in times of need. sometimes people insult gen 3 with things like 'it has too much water' or whatever the hell, but despite that it will always be there to soothe you with a good pokedex and aesthetically pleasing locales.
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I never played Emerald but dug FR back in gen 3. When gen 4 came out i just got annoyed by how sloooow Pearl was, I'm impatient. But then i picked up Platinum and it was top tier and reignited my interest. Gen 5 really was my fave generation, notably for B2/W2. HOwever, OR has definitely made me realize how cool a region Hoenn is in general and I am glad I get to experience it in full 3D glory.
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Oct 5, 2016 07:53
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Gen 4 is the only one I haven't replayed, which is why I remember so little of it. I recall not being bothered by the fire type thing because I picked Infernape, and I recall thinking every gym leader was great, and I recall noticing that some of the routes were very intricately laid out. It's hard to go back to Pearl and I never managed to track down a Platinum cartridge. I will probably never again put effort into a pokemon game where TMs are not reusable. The remakes are going to kick rear end.
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Oct 5, 2016 10:03
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Gen V remakes are what I want to see sometime. I admit that Sinnoh was overall are more interesting location and that none of the starters were really good, but having an actual story in a Pokémon game was a huge change of pace and keeping only new pokemon was a great idea.
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Oct 5, 2016 10:13
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really disappointed this isnt just the sound of flames and a voice saying "bidoof. bidoof. bidoof is on fire."
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Oct 5, 2016 10:34
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Amppelix posted:I know we're all excited to loudly proclaim our opinions on the starters but this just happened and it's kinda interesting Is there anywhere they've posted up the features. I'm interested and all just want to know more about it.
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Oct 5, 2016 13:25
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CuddlyZombie posted:really disappointed this isnt just the sound of flames and a voice saying "bidoof. bidoof. bidoof is on fire." I'm dying Squirtle
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Oct 5, 2016 14:40
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I hope megas are still around so charizard y can still be my Lilligant's friend
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Oct 5, 2016 15:37
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Any good preorder bonuses announced yet?
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Oct 5, 2016 16:45
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you can get a munchlax with the z stone to do the funny move. that was a preorder thing right
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Oct 5, 2016 16:50
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Gen 3 was the reason I stopped playing for a while. I don't thin the games were bad. The mechanics got way too complicated for me at that age as far as the IV and EV system went plus natures. There was no good explanation at the time that I could find and I really didn't like that I could end up with a pokemon that was crap from the moment I caught it. So I stopped playing.
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Oct 5, 2016 16:56
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oddium posted:you can get a munchlax with the z stone to do the funny move. that was a preorder thing right Doesn't count, that goes to any one that buys before the end of this year I believe.
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Oct 5, 2016 16:57
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oddium posted:you can get a munchlax with the z stone to do the funny move. that was a preorder thing right Could be more like the Torchic with Blazikenite mystery gift they did for the first month or two of X/Y's release
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Oct 5, 2016 16:58
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notoriousman posted:Could be more like the Torchic with Blazikenite mystery gift they did for the first month or two of X/Y's release I was more hoping for something like Toys R Us's plush Charizard for ORAS preorders.
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Oct 5, 2016 17:27
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Bongo Bill posted:I'm interested in this. Got a link? A little late, but there are a bunch of Pokemon disassemblies here. Including one for the Pokemon TCG game, which I didn't know about.
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Oct 5, 2016 17:27
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oddium posted:you can get a munchlax with the z stone to do the funny move. that was a preorder thing right No, that's just an event running very early in the game's life. It's the same as the Blazikenite Torchic for XY, in that and in likely being a preview of the next game in the series (the next remake, rather, for both cases).
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Blaze Dragon posted:No, that's just an event running very early in the game's life. It's the same as the Blazikenite Torchic for XY, in that and in likely being a preview of the next game in the series (the next remake, rather, for both cases). Banking on another Gen 1 remake to capitalize on any nostalgia brought up from Pokemon Go.
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PSWII60 posted:Banking on another Gen 1 remake to capitalize on any nostalgia brought up from Pokemon Go. Ah yes, I too remember how Munchlax was a starter in Pokemon Lunch.
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mabels big day posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_WkWaoBgNY If it makes you feel better, I never played this gen, and I like the sound of this very much, thank you
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Oct 5, 2016 18:38
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All these distributions are killing me. I'm going to run out of wonder card slots.
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Oct 5, 2016 19:42
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PSWII60 posted:Banking on another Gen 1 remake to capitalize on any nostalgia brought up from Pokemon Go. That's the new forms in S&M.
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Oct 5, 2016 19:45
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PSWII60 posted:Gen 3 was the reason I stopped playing for a while. I don't thin the games were bad. The mechanics got way too complicated for me at that age as far as the IV and EV system went plus natures. There was no good explanation at the time that I could find and I really didn't like that I could end up with a pokemon that was crap from the moment I caught it. So I stopped playing. I shouldn't defend "this thing isn't complex in 2016" but I am anyway 
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DACK FAYDEN posted:I mean, the EV system was literally just a twice-as-granular version of the DV system. It was really just natures and abilities (there were two-ability mons in gen 3, right?) and IVs suddenly being a thing you had to plan ahead. DVs could be maxed in every stat, so there was no worry about getting the wrong spread
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Oct 5, 2016 19:56
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Gen 3 was super easy though. All of the trainers didn't know what TMs or Tutors were, they had 0 in every EV and 16 at most in every IV, etc. You didn't have to plan ahead. DVs being able to be maxed in every stat is part of what made the level curve easier in gen 2 compared to its gen 4 remakes--trainers also had no DVs there--but the change to EVs did nothing to make gen 3 any harder.
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Oct 5, 2016 20:03
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Sockser posted:How do the GameStop distributions work? Do I gotta like... buy something? They've got a limited number of cards though, so go early.
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Oct 5, 2016 20:06
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Gen 3's greatest fault was taking away the day/night cycle. I dont mind abilities now, but I hated them in gen 3 at the start since it felt like my dudes had whatever abilities and enemy pokemon had all sorts of annoying abilities that drew out battles or acted as "gotchas" like levitate.
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Oct 5, 2016 20:09
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cheetah7071 posted:DVs could be maxed in every stat, so there was no worry about getting the wrong spread Yeah, that was pretty much my reasoning. What I knew of Gen 1 & 2 was the more you use a Pokemon the stronger it gets to a point. Then I started 3 and everything that I thought had bad natures and bad IVs. So to me I just got a whole bunch of stuff that was crappy from the start and I didn't really care about competitive stuff so I didn't want to put the time in to do any more than dicking around and fighting against my friends. The new system just seem significantly more complicated then the old to me at the time. And while yes it is more complicated it's not so much more complicated than you can't understand it. However it is significantly more complicated than I really cared about Pokemon at the time.
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Oct 5, 2016 20:16
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Cant Ride A Bus posted:Just downloaded Hoopa and Darkrai with the codes, are there any others I can still get? This is a longshot but does anyone have a Darkrai code to spare? I wanted one because it is dark like my soul but they ran out on like the first day of that month.
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Oct 5, 2016 20:21
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S&M is adding a way to mess with IVs right? I remember some announcement but don't remember the details. Part of me wonders why they even have IVs when there's EVs, Nature and Abilities to distinguish pokemon of the same species.
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Oct 5, 2016 20:22
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Cuntellectual posted:This is a longshot but does anyone have a Darkrai code to spare? I wanted one because it is dark like my soul but they ran out on like the first day of that month. DARKRAI20 is still valid, I think (assuming you're not in PAL region).
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Big Bad Beetleborg posted:DARKRAI20 is still valid, I think (assuming you're not in PAL region). Awesome, thanks. Just got the Hoopa as well. Now I just need a Diancie... how am I supposed to get that? Seems like the last event was in 2015
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Oxyclean posted:S&M is adding a way to mess with IVs right? I remember some announcement but don't remember the details. Yeah, there are special items called bottlecaps. Silver ones max a single stat, gold ones max all. We know the event Magearna comes holding one, no word on how to get more.
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PSWII60 posted:Gen 3 was the reason I stopped playing for a while. I don't thin the games were bad. The mechanics got way too complicated for me at that age as far as the IV and EV system went plus natures. There was no good explanation at the time that I could find and I really didn't like that I could end up with a pokemon that was crap from the moment I caught it. So I stopped playing. That's interesting you mention that since it seems like every time someone one itt complains about the IV system you see responses like " this is a game for children, not competitive spergs" but it sounds like as a child it actively hindered your enjoyment of the game. I really don't see how people can defend the system the way it is, it's one thing for Pokemon to be different from one another but IVs just mean that some Pokemon will simply be better than others and there's nothing you can do to change that (until now).
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Zore posted:Yeah, there are special items called bottlecaps. Silver ones max a single stat, gold ones max all. Note that hyper training to max IVs is apparently only available once the pokemon hits level 100. In most cases, breeding for IVs will probably be faster. That said, if they also add a way to switch abilities and natures around too, then you can just bring your pals from the main campaign straight into battle spot.
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Sebadoh Gigante posted:That's interesting you mention that since it seems like every time someone one itt complains about the IV system you see responses like " this is a game for children, not competitive spergs" but it sounds like as a child it actively hindered your enjoyment of the game. I really don't see how people can defend the system the way it is, it's one thing for Pokemon to be different from one another but IVs just mean that some Pokemon will simply be better than others and there's nothing you can do to change that (until now). It is a clunky system, but unless you're playing competitively, it really doesn't matter in terms of just getting through the game.
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Sebadoh Gigante posted:That's interesting you mention that since it seems like every time someone one itt complains about the IV system you see responses like " this is a game for children, not competitive spergs" but it sounds like as a child it actively hindered your enjoyment of the game. I really don't see how people can defend the system the way it is, it's one thing for Pokemon to be different from one another but IVs just mean that some Pokemon will simply be better than others and there's nothing you can do to change that (until now). That said, I'm a little confused by his complaints, and maybe it's just the statmaxer in me that finds this odd... PSWII60 posted:Yeah, that was pretty much my reasoning. What I knew of Gen 1 & 2 was the more you use a Pokemon the stronger it gets to a point. Then I started 3 and everything that I thought had bad natures and bad IVs. So to me I just got a whole bunch of stuff that was crappy from the start and I didn't really care about competitive stuff so I didn't want to put the time in to do any more than dicking around and fighting against my friends. The new system just seem significantly more complicated then the old to me at the time. And while yes it is more complicated it's not so much more complicated than you can't understand it. However it is significantly more complicated than I really cared about Pokemon at the time. "The more you use a Pokemon, the stronger it gets" is still true until you hit the EV cap at 510 which, even without running from random encounters, you'd probably do, what, six badges in? And yeah, sure, you would literally never max out Stat Exp in any reasonable amount of time, but the only way someone who doesn't know how the EV system works is going to notice is going to be when Carbos et al stop working, which is a legitimate fault with the system. (For reference, that point is 100 EVs in that stat or the 510 total cap being hit) I guess I just don't see how you could have actually realized the different system had any effects. Maybe I'm biased because I remember I didn't figure it out until I looked it up myself. And like, I can't change your past self's mind! So I'll stop posting now  e: and yeah, Dr. Fetus has the takeaway point, poo poo didn't matter at all for anything in the actual game except maybe Battle Tower.
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cheetah7071 posted:Note that hyper training to max IVs is apparently only available once the pokemon hits level 100. In most cases, breeding for IVs will probably be faster. That would depend on how effective powerleveling is and how often you can get bottlecaps. At the very bery least it'll be a way to make wild shinies useful in battles. Plus there's already ability capsules. All we need is some sort of nature transmogrifyer and all your favourite pocket monsters are viable.
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Improbable Lobster posted:That would depend on how effective powerleveling is and how often you can get bottlecaps. At the very bery least it'll be a way to make wild shinies useful in battles. I forgot about ability capsules, though those don't help with hidden abilities
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I'm hoping that interview from way back about making the games simpler/back to basics means that now anything with Hidden in its name is easier to deal with in-game. They can go back to making distributions special with unique moves rather than access to hidden abilities.
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Wow a lot of new pages, you must all still be talking about how Dartrix rules and everyone else drools?
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