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evilweasel posted:lol "It's wrong! It's wrong for us to lose this court case after breaking the law!"
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red19fire posted:It's closer to doxxing. Describing the jurors on Facebook could be construed as trying to *nudge nudge wink wink* get some wacky follower to intimidate the juror into hanging the jury. Yeah, this is a bigger concern that the stupid T-shirt. Anonymity of the jurors has been something that has been required of the justice system since the beginning of to maintain impartiality and impunity from the retribution of their decisions. You're not even sure if those two jurors were the ones who complained, it's that she pointed them out of her perceived biases so she can get influence or intimidate them.
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Young Freud posted:Yeah, this is a bigger concern that the stupid T-shirt. Anonymity of the jurors has been something that has been required of the justice system since the beginning of to maintain impartiality and impunity from the retribution of their decisions. You're not even sure if those two jurors were the ones who complained, it's that she pointed them out of her perceived biases so she can get influence or intimidate them. Ah yes, I wasn't addressing that aspect of things with what I wrote. Obviously not okay to try to influence jurors like that. The description itself, "looks like she comes from the city and has a very perfect life" is very bizarre.
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WrenP-Complete posted:Ah yes, I wasn't addressing that aspect of things with what I wrote. Obviously not okay to try to influence jurors like that. The description itself, "looks like she comes from the city and has a very perfect life" is very bizarre. Stuffing her big city mouth with big city food, corruptin' our youth with them big city ideas and loose big city morals 
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ate all the Oreos posted:Stuffing her big city mouth with big city food, corruptin' our youth with them big city ideas and loose big city morals She was the one who was live streaming from the jail and saying they would not leave until they could talk to Ryan. Here's her video page https://www.periscope.tv/bundystrong/1ZkKzpLmqbaJv Edit: oh I'm seeing sources that she was the one wearing the shirt, which I didn't understand from the original. E2: someone showed that screenshot to the judge and apparently Stewart was removed by three US Marshals while screaming. WrenP-Complete has issued a correction as of 16:11 on Oct 5, 2016 |
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chitoryu12 posted:"It's wrong! It's wrong for us to lose this court case after breaking the law!" More like "It's wrong that our hillbilly interpretation of the Constitution and United States law isn't getting recognized as the one true interpretation of the law and we're being oppressed by a huge gang of big city ivory tower liberal elites unfairly!" It is astonishing to me how stupid and stubborn these people are.
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Oct 5, 2016 15:54
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If anyone ever finds themselves in tears and lamenting that their opponents are "too smart" I hope they're capable of just a small moment of self-reflection.
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WrenP-Complete posted:E2: someone showed that screenshot to the judge and apparently Stewart was removed while screaming.  Elephant Ambush posted:More like "It's wrong that our hillbilly interpretation of the Constitution and United States law isn't getting recognized as the one true interpretation of the law and we're being oppressed by a huge gang of big city ivory tower liberal elites unfairly!" That's my favorite part, their  about their own interpretation of the constitution not applying in court, and the slow realization that there will be consequences for their actions. But it looks like the movement people on facebook are already trying to spin this as their legalistic magic words not working, massive conspiracy, etc. They are never going to admit they're wrong.
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Knight posted:If anyone ever finds themselves in tears and lamenting that their opponents are "too smart" I hope they're capable of just a small moment of self-reflection. In seriousness though, an ingrained sense of inferiority is pretty standard for wingnuts like this. It's the same kind of dumbass logic that led to the Lost Cause in the postbellum South becoming so popular.
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Oct 5, 2016 16:20
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It's like people trying to interpret the Star Wars prequels as good.
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Elephant Ambush posted:More like "It's wrong that our hillbilly interpretation of the Constitution and United States law isn't getting recognized as the one true interpretation of the law and we're being oppressed by a huge gang of big city ivory tower liberal elites unfairly!" Well, they are the underdogs fighting for freedom. The feds cheated by not lining up and letting their evil stormtroopers be shot in droves by the noble hillbillies in a huge dramatic scene. Instead the feds dastardly captured the leaders with such a cheap tactic as "waiting until they were dumb enough to leave in two vehicles together". How could such a thing have been foreseen?! The patriots were entitled to a win through sheer righteousness according to all the crappy movies they saw. Geostomp has issued a correction as of 17:14 on Oct 5, 2016 |
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WrenP-Complete posted:E2: someone showed that screenshot to the judge and apparently Stewart was removed by three US Marshals while screaming. Hopefully the next time anyone sees her it's in handcuffs.
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Knight posted:If anyone ever finds themselves in tears and lamenting that their opponents are "too smart" I hope they're capable of just a small moment of self-reflection. He's grieving the lie that he's told himself for years, that the gov't were lovely efreets from 1001 nights stories that could be tricked into jumping back into their bottles or abjured by the name of Allah to robotically follow instructions even to their own demise. I mean he elbowed his buddies in the ribs and went 'haha check this out "Oh No, Don't Toss Me Into That Briar Patch, Br'er Gov'ment"' but the government just waited him out and for some inexplicable reason failed to fall for his masterful trap of getting murdered a little and using the deaths as propaganda to incite more widespread rebellion. Or maybe it's more like anansi trying to scam a free meal from every village but instead of his waist he has them all around his neck so when dinner time comes he hangs himself eight different ways. The bundies are like failed trickster gods, is what I'm realizing.
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I had a book of native american folklore back in highschool and the coyote one where he tried to get a blowjob by hiding his dick in the strawberry patch while the women were picking them but it just gets eaten by a dog seems about right. It's not fair, cries ryan bundy, that dog was too hungry.
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I think the biggest revelation is that America just didn't believe their stupidity. What they expected was that Americans and the military would rise up and be led to a glorious revolution. Instead they got told to gently caress off then got arrested. It has nothing to do with the feds being too smart or strong but that America was overall having none of their shenanigans. It really does tie strongly with militia idiocy and believing that of you patriot hard enough then you're automatically right. It also indicates that they had zero clue what freedom actually means. Sorry bub, but there are a ton of laws that have real good reasons for existing. "Let's just tear the whole thing down and abolish the government for freedom" is the dumbest loving thing.
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https://twitter.com/Oregonian/status/783480468624642049?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw I love this drawing. It looks like a children's book version of Ammon Bundy and the Terrible, Horrible, No Good Very Bad Day.
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Oct 5, 2016 19:35
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I move that the judge recuse themselves due to a conflict of interest stemming from being an officer of a corrupt and illegal "government" all those in favor say aye
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sugar free jazz posted:I move that the judge recuse themselves due to a conflict of interest stemming from being an officer of a corrupt and illegal "government" all those in favor say aye *dead silence fills the courtroom*
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Oct 5, 2016 19:56
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Oct 5, 2016 20:09
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ToxicSlurpee posted:I think the biggest revelation is that America just didn't believe their stupidity. What they expected was that Americans and the military would rise up and be led to a glorious revolution. Instead they got told to gently caress off then got arrested. It has nothing to do with the feds being too smart or strong but that America was overall having none of their shenanigans. It really does tie strongly with militia idiocy and believing that of you patriot hard enough then you're automatically right. One of the best nights I had during the standoff consisted of listening to some stream from a ham radio at like 3am. Cue nuts and racist militia types expressing their absolute disbelief that America hadn't risen up yet and then, instead of having a moment of clarity, they decided to start calling nearly all of the country communist Muslim collaborators.
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VikingSkull posted:One of the best nights I had during the standoff consisted of listening to some stream from a ham radio at like 3am. Cue nuts and racist militia types expressing their absolute disbelief that America hadn't risen up yet and then, instead of having a moment of clarity, they decided to start calling nearly all of the country communist Muslim collaborators. Inshallah tovarishch
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VikingSkull posted:One of the best nights I had during the standoff consisted of listening to some stream from a ham radio at like 3am. Cue nuts and racist militia types expressing their absolute disbelief that America hadn't risen up yet and then, instead of having a moment of clarity, they decided to start calling nearly all of the country communist Muslim collaborators. That's the hallmark of these types, utter disbelief no one else is jumping off the cliff after them. Try to find the Dollop podcast on the Lincoln assassination conspiracy. For the week or so after he killed Lincoln and was trying to evade capture, he expressed to his co-conspirator how he could not believe that the country was mourning the death of the president and not celebrating the demise of a tyrant. Shitheels never change.
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cumshitter posted:https://twitter.com/Oregonian/status/783480468624642049?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw It's such a classic tale a incompetent hubris and has that 80's movie "party while Mom and Dad are out" feel. Watching the Bundys sell each other out is a pleasure after all this.
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Geostomp posted:It's such a classic tale a incompetent hubris and has that 80's movie "party while Mom and Dad are out" feel. Honey I Fought The Feds
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https://twitter.com/maxoregonian/status/783812500219305984 
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Tweets from this morning: Maxine (Oregonian) begin 7:38am pst 1. From last witness Tues:Lee Rice II of Idaho: Visited refuge, brought his trumpet and played during prayer service, meals 2. Rice, who is African American, testifiedhe was 'kind of an oddity' at refuge but said it 'felt like being home, being amongst friends.' 3. Lee Rice said he got a ride off the refuge from his friend Michael Emry 4. Outside federal court -Ammon Bundy is expected to return to witness stand later this morning [graphic: https://twitter.com/maxoregonian/status ... 3497221120] Conrad Wilson begin 7:26am pst 1. Ammon Bundy is expected to continue his direct testimony this morning. It's slated to last all morning. 2. Prosecutors said yesterday their cross examination of Ammon Bundy will be short, about 30 mins. 3. Nevada Assemblywoman Michele Fiore was in the courtroom briefly yesterday. She's scheduled to testify this afternoon. 4. Judge Brown reminded attorneys that witnesses are not allowed in the courtroom before they testify. 5. Looked through my notebook from yesterday and found this quote: "You put on evidence or you rest," Judge Brown told the defense. Scot Klatt (Hecktow/cartoonist/BOG) begin 6:15am pst 1. Bundy Testified he went to Burns to meet Hammonds, Ryan Payne called him. He happened to be in Southern Oregon at the time. 2. Bundy was staying at The Silver Spur. Payne drove out to meet him. 
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I would blow Dane Cook posted:https://twitter.com/maxoregonian/status/783812500219305984 I was hoping that that emoticon had finally been removed for being pretty lovely but no :bigtran:
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Maxine (Oregonian) begin 12:16pm pst 1. After Bundy stepped from stand for lunch break, Neil Wampler stood to applaud:'We all love you Ammon. Thank you for everything you've done.' 2. Judge warned Bundy to not read Scripture to jurors https://twitter.com/hecktow/status/783750779190464513 https://twitter.com/hecktow/status/783756265801474048
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Rockin Orthodontist posted:Didn't the prosecution already rest? Maybe this was from earlier? I don't know.
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I would blow Dane Cook posted:Brand Nu Thornton This is kind of the perfect name for a baby, really.
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Rockin Orthodontist posted:Didn't the prosecution already rest? Could be a rebuttal witness (aka, someone who says "everything that guy said was bullshit.")
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Random comments from crazy town:quote:Inform the Judge she is being arrested for committing crimes against the United States and it's Citizens in your and all the witnessess present. Order the bailiff to take het into custody. Get a different Judge quote:Jeff Siebert Has anyone made the connection of BLM illegally seizing private land for the purpose of Uranium extraction HRC sold to Russia via Uranium1 Inc? Just you Jeff, just you quote:Diane Ransom You are correct in the great people there. Some one needs to get this Judge exposed bigger. She is leading the prosecution? I had a magistate to that to me. I asked a black belt that gave me a contusion if he wanted to see the hospital report holding it out and he said yes and went to grab it the magistrate coughed and the man pulled in his hand. I know how bad the courts can be. I bet the jurors have had no clue. I pray Father opens their eyes. They need plenty of time to go over this stuff. Do not make them feel rushed. So far some stuff sounds good. God Bless Roger too along with Chris and Lee. God Bless All these Political Prisoners. I am glad Dave Fry's family made it. I love their boy. -- Self Defence in the United States allows a person to use reasonable force in his or her own defence or the defence of others. What was done was reasonable force in defence first for others and then not enough; On a Federal Level, self defence is legal when it comes in response to an affirmiative, unlawful act reasonably adding up to production of a affray foreboding injurious or fatal consequences. LaVoy I think would not of been wrong in plowing through that baracade. I erm, I...I mean there are words there but..wtf. quote:Monte Filler Our Constitution was set up to allow for We The People to be our own Militia to unite and fight against Tyranny Foreign or Domestic. We have both types right now. We all have an obligation to defend our families, our friends and our neighbors. The Title of Liberty states we will fight in “Memory of Our God, Our Religion, Our Freedom , Our Peace our Wives and our Children.”
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PST posted:Monte Filler Our Constitution was set up to allow for We The People to be our own Militia to unite and fight against Tyranny Foreign or Domestic. We have both types right now. We all have an obligation to defend our families, our friends and our neighbors. The Title of Liberty states we will fight in “Memory of Our God, Our Religion, Our Freedom , Our Peace our Wives and our Children.” I love how he just kind of put a bunch of disjointed american quotable quotes in a blender PST posted:When do you think it’s time to stand up and fight? After we have totally lost all of our Freedoms? When we and our children are slaves? (Which we are now) Or do we stand by and just watch peacefully because those are NOT coming for US yet! Who will be there to defend you when you are in trouble if you are not willing to help your neighbor? It's really interesting just how much these people do not believe society functions, as if we don't have state national guards, police forces on several different non-federal levels, all sorts of things, and the only thing keeping us from being white genocide'd is a few insane rednecks hoarding guns to "defend" their neighbors. I almost want to see them organize into a coherent guerrilla resistance movement just because a coherent movement based on insane paranoia about literally everything ever would be really fascinating to watch fall apart at the seams, but it would also probably get a lot of people killed in the process  PST posted:The US Federal Domestic Terrorists Corporation(AKA: US Federal Government) and the American Citizens have forgotten one very important fact about the US Federal Domestic Terrorists Corporation..........The US Federal Domestic Terrorists Corporation is supposed to WORK FOR the American Citizens.........not WORK AGAINST the American Citizens!!!!!!  why won't you do domestic terrorism on my behalf, government?!
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PST posted:Bonus quote, is this some form of mental health problem? I love how crazy people's minds work.
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