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CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:No we dont you idiot. Aust has a 5% Informal vote rate on a 95% turnout. Source : Aust Electoral Commission thank you for this, this is what I assumed to be the likely case. any linked sources?
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WeAreTheRomans posted:Source your posts, because my understanding is that mandatory voting --> much higher levels of "legitimate" voter participation I'm loosely basing it off of second hand Australian stuff, where the main issue is that young people (18-25) aren't even registered. You are right, though. The spoilt vote hovers around 5-6% from my 5 second Google search.
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Ummmm should this be something to worry about? https://uk.news.yahoo.com/russia-tells-citizens-to-prepare-for-nuclear-war-061203585.html?soc_src=social-sh&soc_trk=tw
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NikkolasKing posted:It's kind of tragic they have to make up poo poo about Hillary though when she has several real clusterfucks to her name. The problem for them is that most of Hillary's actual faults are things that Republican voters are A-OK with. Her being somewhat hawkish, cozy with Wall Street, how she allegedly treated women with sexual assault allegations against Bill, those are all qualities that most Republican voters would consider neutral at worst and most likely good things if they were coming from someone with an R next to their name. Of course, that hasn't stopped them from criticizing her over these issues too, but they fall pretty flat and don't stick like emailsemailsemails does.
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CelestialScribe posted:Ummmm should this be something to worry about? Since you posted it I'm gonna go with "no."
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Phone posted:I'm loosely basing it off of second hand Australian stuff, where the main issue is that young people (18-25) aren't even registered. Reminder that Australian balloting works a hell of a lot different from ours since it's not FPTP
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CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:No we dont you idiot. Aust has a 5% Informal vote rate on a 95% turnout. Source : Aust Electoral Commission Go to bed or go on a 4am bike ride.
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WeAreTheRomans posted:http://www.edegan.com/pdfs/Krasa%20Polborn%20(2009)%20-%20Is%20mandatory%20voting%20better%20than%20voluntary%20voting.pdf poo poo like this is why I never put any spaces in filenames. Periods or underscores people!
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lozzle posted:It gets worse. they need to fire their editor and their correspondents and Bill O' Reilly actually just fire everyone ok
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On Terra Firma posted:My fiance is Chinese and holy gently caress this set her off. It's so insanely racist and offensive that I cannot wrap my mind around how anyone could say otherwise. I'm getting similar reactions when I send it to family and friends who normally don't get political. It's that bad.
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lozzle posted:It gets worse. always more always worse
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:Reminder that Australian balloting works a hell of a lot different from ours since it's not FPTP Yeah, it's not possible to map analogies to/from Austraila/United States. Compulsory voting on its own in America would have a slew of problems that would need to be addressed beforehand (i.e. - what I was saying about federal holidays not meaning poo poo for most hourly employees).
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Phone posted:Yeah, it's not possible to map analogies to/from Austraila/United States. Sure, but it's reasonable to assume that it will have a similar effect, unless you have a specific schema which suggests otherwise. lmao oh please quadruple down on this Don my man
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As in this guy witnessed it? Are you saying the Trump meltdown is real? 
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CelestialScribe posted:Ummmm should this be something to worry about? Authoritarian shithead says things to scare his counties population into continually supporting him in a desperate plea to stave off the ongoing economic collapse that he brought against them for being an authoritarian shithead. Remember, Putin famously loving hates Hillary. Like utterly loving despises her on every level.
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CelestialScribe posted:Ummmm should this be something to worry about? Considering all this took was a simple Google search, I'm gonna say no.
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Australia's mandatory voting also elects horrible people that keep the concentration camps going and refuse to legalize gay marriage, so it's not a good advertisement. Meanwhile, most countries that have ever had mandatory voting have slowly phased it out over time.
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fishmech posted:Australia's mandatory voting also elects horrible people that keep the concentration camps going and refuse to legalize gay marriage, so it's not a good advertisement. Meanwhile, most countries that have ever had mandatory voting have slowly phased it out over time. All voting systems elect horrible people
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fishmech posted:Australia's mandatory voting also elects horrible people that keep the concentration camps going and refuse to legalize gay marriage, so it's not a good advertisement. Meanwhile, most countries that have ever had mandatory voting have slowly phased it out over time. Because Australia has a monopoly on shithead politicians. 
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CascadeBeta posted:Considering all this took was a simple Google search, I'm gonna say no. Did you read the final paragraph?
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CelestialScribe posted:Did you read the final paragraph? Okay? I'm sure that was in fact said. Edit: of all the things I can worry about in my life, whether or not some Russian annihilates me in a nuclear hellball is not even on the list because if it does happen, it sure as poo poo won't matter if I worried about it or not.
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WeAreTheRomans posted:Sure, but it's reasonable to assume that it will have a similar effect, unless you have a specific schema which suggests otherwise. I mean, we already elect reprehensible people into office as is. I don't see how forcing everyone to vote is going to solve that fundamental problem of people actively voting against their best interests.
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Two more newspapers endorsing Hillary: https://twitter.com/thenation/status/783744023144071169 https://twitter.com/TheAtlantic/status/783751849027461120
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CelestialScribe posted:Did you read the final paragraph? Given how nerve wracking your life is, I'd assume death by nuclear annihilation would be a step up.
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canepazzo posted:Two more newspapers endorsing Hillary: 
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CelestialScribe posted:Did you read the final paragraph? Explain that one to me. Explain why we should be afraid of that. Maybe use short, quizzical questions and act harried at the very thought while you're at it.
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lozzle posted:Because Australia has a monopoly on shithead politicians. Had a monopoly on creationists for a while.
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lozzle posted:Because Australia has a monopoly on shithead politicians. Mandatory voting simply doesn't accomplish anything. Also they've got a monopoly on concentration camps for refugees in the anglosphere. Andrast posted:All voting systems elect horrible people Australia's elects concentration camp lovers.
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Nessus posted:OK, chicken little, what is the negative thing we should worry about even if the Russians are in fact building disaster shelters out in Moscow. I have no idea. I'd figure someone here could explain whether this is just regular sabre rattling or something different.
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fishmech posted:Mandatory voting simply doesn't accomplish anything. Also they've got a monopoly on concentration camps for refugees in the anglosphere. A lot to Aussies and English people aren't just bad, as near as I can tell. Aldo, obviously, so are a lot of Americans. We at least have a decent to good Chief Executive at the moment though.
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CelestialScribe posted:I have no idea. I'd figure someone here could explain whether this is just regular sabre rattling or something different. If it was real news, don't you think someone besides loving yahoo would be reporting on it?
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CelestialScribe posted:I have no idea. I'd figure someone here could explain whether this is just regular sabre rattling or something different. Just to make the rest of your life a little easier: it's always sabre rattling. 
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Yes please.
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computer parts posted:Had a monopoly on creationists for a while. Also, deranged beady-eyed onion men.
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CelestialScribe posted:I have no idea. I'd figure someone here could explain whether this is just regular sabre rattling or something different. It's slightly different in that Putin hates Hillary and despite his best efforts she's going to be president baring a literal miracle, but treat it like regular sabre rattling since there is no way in hell russia will first strike us and we won't first strike them.
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I've never found the argument compelling that making people who don't care have to make a choice is necessarily better for democracy. It IS nice that this limits voter suppression as a tactic, though.
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Rygar201 posted:A lot to Aussies and English people aren't just bad, as near as I can tell. There's something rich about pointing to both England and Australia and going "why can't we be more like them?"
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