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Bogart posted:Yeah. I guess it was Sierra? Bunch of them came out at once. I'll PM you once I get to my computer. cool thanks guess i'm adding this to my "stupid horror games to play and throw up on youtube for 2016 october" list. at the least it'll be a good way to see what improvements were made to P2
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Night10194 posted:In 2 you get a letter announcing the girl from 1 is having a book signing about her experience. As long as it doesn't go beyond a reference like that, it's pretty close to what I was thinking of. Though, a better example might be SH2's mention of Walter Sullivan in a news article. Same world, and the series has continuity, but not much overlap.
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Oct 5, 2016 21:20
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Which makes it even crazier because now you have a haunted castle AND alien slime people all running around at once. Like how in the same world where Patrick Bateman is running around you also have loving vampires.
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Oct 5, 2016 21:21
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If it hadn't been mentioned, SH1 and 3 are overtly linked. 
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Oct 5, 2016 21:22
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Lasher posted:Like how in the same world where Patrick Bateman is running around you also have loving vampires. please don't leak my pilot episode pitch, ty
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Oct 5, 2016 21:29
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A. Beaverhausen posted:As a gay dude I see nothing that Outlast or Whistle blower did as wrong in any way, just a subversion of a horror trope. Also omg horror is problematic!? :clutchespearls: I'm very gay and think it's edgy, cliche trash. OMG people can criticize horror!? :feignsmoralsuperiority:
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Oct 5, 2016 21:31
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Improbable Lobster posted:I'm very gay and think it's edgy, cliche trash. OMG people can criticize horror!? :feignsmoralsuperiority: it's very cliché and tries too hard at points but saying the whole game is some malicious anti-gay/anti-treatment for people with mental illness screed is going too far it's just a digital haunted house with some cheap thrills
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Oct 5, 2016 21:40
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Just wanna reiterate again that nobody's saying it was a purposefully malicious anti-gay/anti-treatment for mentally ill people (?) thing. This game is not a hate crime, it's just schlock that is based on (whether intentionally or not) harmful tropes that are worth discussing and criticizing. Many things are internalized or normalized, so a developer thinking "This penis will scare a straight dude probably" is not necessarily someone consciously exercising flagrant homophobia.
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Oct 5, 2016 21:42
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CharlestonJew posted:it's very cliché and tries too hard at points but saying the whole game is some malicious anti-gay/anti-treatment for people with mental illness screed is going too far Literally nobody said that, you're just purposefully taking things out of context/out of proportion to get all triggered about it.
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Oct 5, 2016 21:44
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yeah I know but when some people are throwing around the word misogynistic and homophobic when describing a videogame where a man chases you around with a machete (and sometimes that man has his dick hanging out) it just seems like they're getting mad about things that the devs never really intended
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CharlestonJew posted:it's very cliché and tries too hard at points but saying the whole game is some malicious anti-gay/anti-treatment for people with mental illness screed is going too far Literally no one said that. It's cliche and it leans on some fairly trite and hurtful tropes regarding homosexuality, mental illness and sexual violence and doesn't even try to do something new or interesting with it. It's like someone made a game based on Mr Friendly from Half Life. The cut enemy that was supposed to kill the player by stabbing them with a giant dick.
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King of Bleh posted:I think people's issues with the outlast games are less with the content and more with the presentation; it's understandable that if you went in expecting something relatively mature--within the context of the genre, anyway--that you'd then be turned off when you get schocky exploitation-grade stuff. Pages ago but I think you nailed it. Outlast seemed to have this hype around it that it was really going to be something special and instead ends up being a dumb B movie, which is totally fine. I love Humanoids from the Deep but it sells itself clearly as being a dumb B movie about rapist fish monsters (which to be honest is one of the funniest scenes in the movie because the suit is so goofy looking) The little I played of Isolation I thought "Hey this is Outlast but much better" and not just because I already have a familiarity with the Aliens universe, but because it manages to build tension without a ton of loud noises and dumb jump scares. What I'm saying is Outlast is the the big loud dumb kid who thinks they're super deep and Badass because they take the most controversial stance on something, while Isolation (from my little time with it,maybe an hour) is the quiet kid in the corner who when they do open their mouth has something well reasoned and interesting to say. If you like Outlast I'm not saying you're wrong, different strokes and all that, personally I found it tedious and annoying and all of its scares were the most obvious choice of scares. I'm all for a gaming landscape where we can have deep, thought provoking games like SH2 and dumb poo poo like Outlast or Emily Wants to Play (or any other jump fest) I'd just like there to be more open discussion about these things as well as a bit more clear communication about what you're getting yourself into. If I waste an hour and half watching some schlock on Netflix then I'm out an hour and a half of time and I can move on with my life, but if I'm buying a game that's a larger time/money commitment. Basically I want better horror games and I'm foolishly hoping the genre will mature a bit more the way the genre has in film. Again I'm not advocating for the elimination or censorship of the B-movie schlock because when it's done right it's fantastic, but from what I took away from Outlast, it was a lot of noise and bluster with nothing behind it.
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Oct 5, 2016 21:48
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Improbable Lobster posted:Literally no one said that. Bogart posted:I think that the overarching theme in Outlast that people with mental illness should be stigmatized and are almost always craaaaaazies is pretty lovely in general and Whistleblower is just that theme taken further so with a flair of homophobic panic.
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Oct 5, 2016 21:50
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I mean Outlast does take things a bit too far and it does get a bit overly gross, but that doesn't mean that the deva weren't designing the game to be a certain way. There is a difference between criticizing intent and execution.
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Oct 5, 2016 21:50
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it does a couple interesting things with the story, like all the weird pseudoscience where they try to turn people into nanomachine factories by scaring them a bunch and nobody really knows if it's science or magic that's responsible for all this craziness. Also chris walker secretly being the hero trying to contain the Walrider, even if he likes ripping people's heads off too much
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Oct 5, 2016 21:51
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All negativity about Outlast is completely outdone by the doctor guy who yells "BUDDY!  " if he finds you.
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Oct 5, 2016 21:52
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CharlestonJew posted:yeah I know but when some people are throwing around the word misogynistic and homophobic when describing a videogame where a man chases you around with a machete (and sometimes that man has his dick hanging out) it just seems like they're getting mad about things that the devs never really intended You are not the media you enjoy, and people saying "This bit is really tryhard and homo/transphobic" or whatever is not someone personally attacking you.
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Oct 5, 2016 21:54
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poptart_fairy posted:All negativity about Outlast is completely outdone by the doctor guy who yells "BUDDY! Hahahah do you know his name so I can look it up on YouTube?
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Improbable Lobster posted:The serious narrative implications of a ghost nanobot skeleton I thought it was cool. like outlast isn't high art or anything but there's some cool ideas in the schlock
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Lasher posted:Hahahah do you know his name so I can look it up on YouTube? his name is Trager and he's cool
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Lasher posted:Hahahah do you know his name so I can look it up on YouTube? His name is Dr.Trager. Here's a bit of him, including that line. Guy was a real highlight.
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CharlestonJew posted:I thought it was cool. like outlast isn't high art or anything but there's some cool ideas in the schlock It's not really "interesting" or unique in a way that would affect my reading of Outlast as cliched and tired.
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Oct 5, 2016 22:00
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Improbable Lobster posted:It's not really "interesting" or unique in a way that would affect my reading of Outlast as cliched and tired. we will have to agree to disagree
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I'm going to make a PSA here and say that if someone here got turned off by Outlast being too gory in an over the top kind of way, hoo boy is the second one going to pull no stops with that. Here's what happened in the demo: Walked through a literal big pile of dead babies and then got my dick chopped in half with a giant axe. So yeah. They uh, got their direction and they ain't touching the steering wheel.
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VoidBurger posted:You act as if "throwing around" words like homophobic and misogynistic is akin to throwing around slurs and stuff. Don't take criticism of media as if they're a personal affront towards you. They are valid terms to describe things in this world and are not marks of total damnation on a piece of media. Just because something is racist, misogynistic, homophobic, transphobic, etc etc etc, doesn't mean that we should throw the whole drat thing out, and it seems like every "anti-S.JW" type of person thinks that is what "S.JWs" are advocating. Throwing out tons of media because of a single fault. This is completely not the case, nobody is advocating censorship or book burning, but critical analysis. You can still enjoy tons of poo poo while admitting that parts of it have problems, it doesn't make YOU a bad person to enjoy a game or movie that has a rape scene in it, for example. Another example: I'm super into Rocky Horror and it features two people getting coerced into sex by a predatory bisexual transvestite. Should I stop liking this ridiculous b-movie because of that? That doesn't make one a hypocrite to acknowledge that someone you love has flaws or harmful aspects to it. This. However there are idiots who will tell you that you're bad for liking things that are "Problematic". Those people are assholes and they ruin everything. Context of when something was produced is another aspect that the assholes of the "SJW" community seem to miss, and again will outright tell you it's bad and wrong because it's X Y or Z without taking a moment to look at the context in which the work was created. Example: Blacula. Legit good movie that has more going for it than the title would suggest but there are two really stereotypical gay characters in the film. In 2016 it makes you say "Holy poo poo that's really really bad" but it's a movie from the 70s, so you either accept that it is what it is and enjoy (or not) the film or you act like an rear end in a top hat on the internet about it and piss people off.
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smuh posted:I'm going to make a PSA here and say that if someone here got turned off by Outlast being too gory in an over the top kind of way, hoo boy is the second one going to pull no stops with that. Here's what happened in the demo: Walked through a literal big pile of dead babies and then got my dick chopped in half with a giant axe. So yeah. They uh, got their direction and they ain't touching the steering wheel. How offensive. I mean, how would you even find that many babies?
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joylessdivision posted:However there are idiots who will tell you that you're bad for liking things that are "Problematic". Those people are assholes and they ruin everything. Nobody in this thread said that or even came close to saying that. Drop this idiotic kneejerk SJW whining bullshit, please.
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DreamShipWrecked posted:How offensive. I mean, how would you even find that many babies? they probably found this thread
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I love One Punch Man. It is a really good and fun show. This is a gay character in it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NNeIXaMCx8&t=15s I am still allowed to like it even though I think Puri Puri Prisoner is a bad and harmful stereotype of gay dudes! This is what SJWs actually believe, wowwy. And yeah, I don't think anybody really likes those certain types of people who are all like "YOU'RE A BAD PERSON IF YOU LIKE A PROBLEMATIC THING." Almost everyone thinks those people are assholes, no matter what side you're on. (Imagine how hard of a time they must have trying to find media to enjoy that doesn't even have ONE single thing that's weird or iffy in it, yeesh.)
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It just goes to show that prejudice was the true horror all along.
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smuh posted:I'm going to make a PSA here and say that if someone here got turned off by Outlast being too gory in an over the top kind of way, hoo boy is the second one going to pull no stops with that. Here's what happened in the demo: Walked through a literal big pile of dead babies and then got my dick chopped in half with a giant axe. So yeah. They uh, got their direction and they ain't touching the steering wheel. Oh jesus I have to see this poo poo Problematic or not its effective in generating buzz, so grats to that I suppose
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Safari Disco Lion posted:Nobody in this thread said that or even came close to saying that. Drop this idiotic kneejerk SJW whining bullshit, please. I wasn't saying anyone in this thread was. And if you had paid attention to the rest of what I said, you would have seen I was agreeing with Voidburger. How about you calm down and re-read what VB said and what I said in response before getting snippy.
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boy are my arms tired posted:cool thanks on reflection this is getting fast tracked, im gonna record this this weekend, and hell i think i'll do p2 while im at it the promise has been made e: if anyone wants to join me on this trip let me know, it'd be fun
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joylessdivision posted:I wasn't saying anyone in this thread was. And if you had paid attention to the rest of what I said, you would have seen I was agreeing with Voidburger. How about you come by and cuddle me because I'm lonely big guy
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Improbable Lobster posted:How about you come by and cuddle me because I'm lonely big guy :bigtran:
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smuh posted:I'm going to make a PSA here and say that if someone here got turned off by Outlast being too gory in an over the top kind of way, hoo boy is the second one going to pull no stops with that. Here's what happened in the demo: Walked through a literal big pile of dead babies and then got my dick chopped in half with a giant axe. So yeah. They uh, got their direction and they ain't touching the steering wheel. Hahahahaha. Remember when I said something about maybe the devs were trying their best to make a good horror experience? Ah, the innocence of youth.
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smuh posted:I'm going to make a PSA here and say that if someone here got turned off by Outlast being too gory in an over the top kind of way, hoo boy is the second one going to pull no stops with that. Here's what happened in the demo: Walked through a literal big pile of dead babies and then got my dick chopped in half with a giant axe. So yeah. They uh, got their direction and they ain't touching the steering wheel. Wow. I have to play this silly rear end demo now.
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Relin posted:there's some legitimate concerns to be had in the portrayal of characters but it's interesting that you dont see these kinds of complaints in the horror MOVIE community I mean, you do
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