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DLC stuff It was alright. I actually felt pretty bad for Sorin cause the whole memory thing sounds really hosed up, and I even had some amount of sympathy for Pierce before his breakdown. I really didn't like the defendant though, the whole "bodily fluds with something you use to cook" thing grossed me the hell out. Really glad Larry didn't end up with her like I was expecting though, since they seem pretty similar.
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Oct 2, 2016 18:53
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Suspicious Cook posted:It's definitely not, especially when you take the DLC into consideration where Phoenix pokes fun at Edgeworth for being single. Not that Nick isn't, but when has not having a leg to stand on ever stopped him? Interesting some see it that way, because my sister felt a lot of the early back and forth (DLC Court Day 1)comes off like Phoenix and Edgeworth had a huge argument post-6-5/prior to this case and are sniping at one another, especially with the bit about the flowers. But that's why: meristem posted:Relationships are best left to fanfiction. That way, everyone can have theirs.
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Oct 2, 2016 20:27
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AlphaKretin posted:So I just replayed AA2 (well, case 4), and I forget, does the "Nick" Shelley calling card Franziska took actually come up when she returns in T&T? I don't remember it doing so. In the anime, she leaves the country with it and says something like she'll give it to him when she's on his level as a lawyer or words to the effect, so I guess that's the closure? She sucks forever and never got on his level.
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Oct 2, 2016 21:53
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Waffleman_ posted:Larry was fine in 1 and his first appearance in 3. In 3-5, he was getting there, but it ended with him realizing that maybe he needed to change himself. Didnt investigations happen before 3? So that would make sense if he was still a oval office. Either way, at least Larry sort of learned to draw!
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Oct 2, 2016 22:12
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Yeah, DLC was pretty weak. It's weird as hell that the most likable, interesting character was the killer. I don't think the thing with Sorin's memory was well-foreshadowed. and really, the case seemed to be mostly a nostalgia/fanservice thing, bringing back Larry doin' Larry things, Edgeworth being Edgeworth, and Maya being Maya. Well, I mean, Edgeworth's behavior is pretty nuanced, especially given that the frame-up on Ellen was pretty drat effective. I think it's even implied that Pierce pressured the Prosecutor's Office to push the case under the rug just to get Edgeworth on it. Edgeworth says directly that part of why he's pursuing the case so fiercely is out of resistance to that pressure. I think the writing for Edgeworth was one of the few things that wasn't off in the DLC.
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Oct 2, 2016 22:32
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Night Blade posted:Didnt investigations happen before 3? So that would make sense if he was still a oval office. It takes place a month after 3-5!
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Oct 3, 2016 00:06
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Waffleman_ posted:It takes place a month after 3-5! Because any longer and they'd have to write around Edgeworth's trusted rival being disbarred! 
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Oct 3, 2016 01:58
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Waffleman_ posted:It takes place a month after 3-5! And over the span of like 2 days! (not including the flashback case)
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Oct 3, 2016 02:07
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AlphaKretin posted:Because any longer and they'd have to write around Edgeworth's trusted rival being disbarred! The weirdest thing is that they totally did, too. Phoenix is never mentioned by name, and only referred to when absolutely necessary, so you can't possibly infer any plot points from his games at all. But then they also went placed it before the disbarring because ???
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Oct 3, 2016 02:08
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Case 4 Someone FINALLY tells Sadman to stuff his "the accused is guilty cuz I SAID SOOOOOO" Khurainese bullshit, and of course it was Blackquill  That man can do no wrong. Well, mostly no wrong.
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Oct 3, 2016 02:19
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Danaru posted:Case 4 Someone FINALLY tells Sadman to stuff his "the accused is guilty cuz I SAID SOOOOOO" Khurainese bullshit, and of course it was Blackquill Yes it felt so good and yes of course he is the best.
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I liked the DLC, but share a few of the same complaints as other people have posted, but it wasn't half as dumb as a lot of the other things in this game. I liked the memory twist with Soren, and I liked Pierce and the stuff with Selena's death. I thought the final bit of evidence was dumb, and there wasn't too much that was satisfying with trying to prove Pierce did it, but whatever. I liked the feel of the returning characters, Edgeworth being the prosecutor actually felt natural instead of stupid and obviously for fanservice like 5-5. I mean, this case was made for fanservice but it didn't feel out of place. All the poo poo with Soren's jetpack was funny as hell too, probably the funniest visual character gag in this game, at least for me. Though, the page tearing paper airplane animation, and all of Ellen's crying animations took too long and got old pretty fast. Also God Bless Trucy for keeping Athena busy the whole time. Momomo posted:DLC stuff I really didn't like the defendant though, the whole "bodily fluds with something you use to cook" thing grossed me the hell out. This is by far the strangest complaint I've ever read.
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mabels big day posted:This is by far the strangest complaint I've ever read. Hey, I know! I'll use my trusty frying pan as a crying pan!
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Oct 3, 2016 19:22
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ASuspicious Cook posted:Hey, I know! I'll use my trusty frying pan as a crying pan! Argh, Brock pls
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Oct 3, 2016 21:15
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mabels big day posted:Though, the page tearing paper airplane animation, and all of Ellen's crying animations took too long and got old pretty fast. Worst part of replaying the end of 5 after I finished 6.
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Oct 3, 2016 22:03
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I still say that Starbuck must be related to Sister Bikini somehow.
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Raxivace posted:Apollo is a nice guy. By comparison, Nick is such a douche when it comes to his internal monologues.
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Oct 4, 2016 09:36
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Lurdiak posted:By comparison, Nick is such a douche when it comes to his internal monologues. Apollo is often more outwardly cranky though. So it balances out.
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Oct 4, 2016 09:44
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So yeah DLC case ended up basically about what I expected However what I did not expect was Sephiroth's wonderful medical themed breakdown animations and attitude. I actually love how elaborate the villains have gotten All in all, it would have been a solid case 2 or 3 in any other Phoenix Wright game.
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Oct 4, 2016 09:54
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1-3 is the only case in the old trilogy to have Phoenix and Maya facing off against Edgeworth. Every other case has had a different assistant or prosecutor. E: Oh, and I guess day two of 1-2. That makes my observation less exciting.
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Oct 4, 2016 10:35
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DLC owned, it solved my main complaint about AA6 which is that we never got Phoenix and Maya just loving around and talking about dumb crap. And that's most of this case. So 10/10.
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Oct 4, 2016 20:25
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meristem posted:Relationships are best left to fanfiction. That way, everyone can have theirs. also what where do you get "mildly autistic" from "not wanting to get married", Edgey can be plenty emotional he's just not that into love. His only wife is THE TRUTH.
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Oct 4, 2016 20:31
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Edgeworth hasn't really moved past his first love, Wendy Oldbag, passing away.
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Oct 4, 2016 20:43
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lol if u think oldbag is capable of dying
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Amppelix posted:lol if u think oldbag is capable of dying Anything is possible with the power of love. That's why Edgeworth was so against it in the DLC.
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I'm still in Case 3, so I haven't been following this thread that closely, but I love this game. I have thoroughly enjoyed all the Ace Attorney games (not so much the second one, but I loved the fifth one which apparently people don't like), and, so far, I think this one will be in the running for my favorite one yet (assuming it doesn't fall apart later). One thing I love about this series is that time passes. Ace Attorney 1 came out 15 years before Ace Attorney 6...and Ace Attorney 6 is set 11 years after Ace Attorney 1. Sure, time isn't as fast as real life, but Phoenix is a 34-year-old established lawyer! Maya is a 28-year-old cleric! Ema is 27! They've grown up! Video game characters don't do that, for the most part. It's interesting to see how they're written into a different stage of life. BTW, my one big complaint with 5 spills over into this one. What was Capcom thinking making Athena only two years older than Trucy when they're clearly supposed to be significantly further apart? Also, (Ace Attorney 4 spoilers) In case 2 of AA6, Apollo comments on Lamiroir sending Trucy flowers. Apollo still doesn't know that Lamiroir is his and Trucy's mother, or that he and Trucy are siblings. 
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Patter Song posted:BTW, my one big complaint with 5 spills over into this one. What was Capcom thinking making Athena only two years older than Trucy when they're clearly supposed to be significantly further apart? Also (regarding 5), holy poo poo Pearl. Only a year Athena's junior, older than Trucy, and she hasn't been sheltered since, what, AA2? And still acts like a clueless kid.
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Not changing anything about Pearl sucks. She said she really wanted long hair when she got older, 8~ years ago. Gave up on her dream? They need to not be afraid to change classic designs.
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Sea Sponge Run posted:Not changing anything about Pearl sucks. She said she really wanted long hair when she got older, 8~ years ago. Gave up on her dream?  Were they too worried that nobody would recognize her without the stupid hair loops? The second one on the bottom row would be a nice callback to Maya.
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Oct 5, 2016 04:31
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Maybe she should get into some of that heavy metal music and turn into a metal head!
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Oct 5, 2016 05:51
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Kazy posted:
i think the third on the top looks the best
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Sea Sponge Run posted:Not changing anything about Pearl sucks. She said she really wanted long hair when she got older, 8~ years ago. Gave up on her dream? I actually love that Pearl is still just little Pearls. I am kinda disappointed that Maya isn't even dressed slightly different, though. Didn't some of the promo art show her with like a cloak or something?
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Like in all Ace Attorney games, I am inspecting literally everything. There's a lot of heartstring-tugging when you inspect Charley and Apollo and Athena talk about how much Phoenix values Charley. Charley is the last holdover of Fey and Co Law Offices and was present for the meteoric rise and meteoric fall of Wright and Co Law Office, and has watched over the Wright Anything Agency since its inception.
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checksin posted:This game fuckin rules I don't even want the suit back. Let me just play as Furio Tigre from now on. The DLC was really boring. I usually blaze through most cases, but this one just didn't grab me. However, it was basically redeemed in the final stretch by the x-rays of Phoenix and Edgeworth. Phoenix should really get those tumors checked out, though. There is no point in covering them up with hair. 
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I think these Phoenix games would be a lot more interesting if the relationships developed more over time. The characters age but how they relate is just status quo. Phoenix should have kids with one of these leading ladies by now.
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Gameko posted:I think these Phoenix games would be a lot more interesting if the relationships developed more over time. The characters age but how they relate is just status quo. Phoenix should have kids with one of these leading ladies by now. Nick has enough kids already.
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I got the AA6 artbook at Kinokuniya today! I love this character concept art! Bonnie was at one point going to be a wolf and at least one concept for Nahyuta was a woman. And one of Rayfa's costume concepts is straight up Shantae.
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Gameko posted:I think these Phoenix games would be a lot more interesting if the relationships developed more over time. The characters age but how they relate is just status quo. Phoenix should have kids with one of these leading ladies by now. He has Iris at least even though she is still in jail (maybe?)
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Electric Phantasm posted:He has Iris at least even though she is still in jail (maybe?) Nah her crime was on the level of like, Adrian, and she got out the next year.
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