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Kerning Chameleon posted:So, between Samsung's Notebombs, Google's Last Year's Phones for This Year's iPhone Prices (and their brick your old Nexus software updates, you naughty cheapass you), and Apple's LOL WHAT'S THE DEAL WITH HEADPHONE JACKS AMIRITE, I've picked literally The Worst Year to decide I need to start buying smartphones for GPS and 2FA That Doesn't Suck, haven't I?
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Oct 5, 2016 22:04
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Nah there's some decent older/lower end stuff if you're just need base functionality. It's only poo poo for top end or Nexus wankery.
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Oct 5, 2016 22:05
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My boyfriend broke his Nexus 5 so to hold him over I got him one of those Amazon Blu phone specials, $60 for a perfectly good phone, plays Clash Royale and everything: https://www.amazon.com/BLU-R1-HD-Exclusive-Lockscreen/dp/B01H2E0J5M/ The 720p screen is the only slightly cheap spot but it's nice and bright at least. The dual SIM card slot was a nice touch since he travels. Edit: 4.2 stars out of $2,457 reviews, a couple of the one star reviews say the phone caught fire, but at least it catches fire for $800 less than the competition! Zero VGS fucked around with this message at 22:22 on Oct 5, 2016 |
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Oct 5, 2016 22:19
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I hope they figure out that this latest exploding Note was a fluke or something because I'm not keen on spending $700 CAD for a Pixel XL on contract :|
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Kerning Chameleon posted:So, between Samsung's Notebombs, Google's Last Year's Phones for This Year's iPhone Prices (and their brick your old Nexus software updates, you naughty cheapass you), and Apple's LOL WHAT'S THE DEAL WITH HEADPHONE JACKS AMIRITE, I've picked literally The Worst Year to decide I need to start buying smartphones for GPS and 2FA That Doesn't Suck, haven't I? Pixel is fine (or supremely excellent if you're knee-deep in Google) if you want high end, a Nexus 6P is good for mid-high end, and Nexus 5x is fine for a mid-lower end. Nerds are absolutely retarded about the Pixel. I assume it's because the last few generations of Nexus have been kinda cheap. Normal people/mainstream press seem to be just fine with it. Despite what I just said about the Pixel I probably wouldn't recommend it (or any other high-end phones) to most people just because there's cheaper options that are Good Enough like the 6P.
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Oct 5, 2016 22:45
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Thermopyle posted:Nerds are absolutely retarded about the Pixel. I assume it's because the last few generations of Nexus have been kinda cheap. I think that's a bit extreme. After the Nexus 6 sales issues, then them coming out with a "mid" 5x and a "high" 6p, all signs pointed to the fact that maybe Google figured out they should release both a "best bang for the buck" and "best" phone each year.
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Internet Explorer posted:I think that's a bit extreme. After the Nexus 6 sales issues, then them coming out with a "mid" 5x and a "high" 6p, all signs pointed to the fact that maybe Google figured out they should release both a "best bang for the buck" and "best" phone each year. I'm not sure what part you're saying is extreme.
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Oct 5, 2016 22:48
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"Absolutely retarded." Sorry for not being more clear.
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Has anyone here messed with Allo? Do you think Google Assistant would warrant a sizeable price increase in the device?
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Has anyone used a oneplus 3? Seems like a a good midrange option to replace my nexus 5.
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Internet Explorer posted:I think that's a bit extreme. After the Nexus 6 sales issues, then them coming out with a "mid" 5x and a "high" 6p, all signs pointed to the fact that maybe Google figured out they should release both a "best bang for the buck" and "best" phone each year. It's actually looking like Google's plans just didn't pan out last year. They had intended both phones to be on sale at carrier stores. In fact, that's one of the reasons why Huawei signed on in the first place. Google had promised Huawei prominent marketing in the US by being on carrier shelves and then weren't able to deliver on it. It's entirely possible that google subsidized these phones last year to get them out the door and selling
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Thermopyle posted:Nerds are absolutely retarded about the Pixel. I assume it's because the last few generations of Nexus have been kinda cheap. I'm not sure how being pretty annoyed at the pricing outside the USA is "absolutely retarded" but hey if you want to be hyperbolic...
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I'm hype as gently caress over the Pixel and it's going to own oowee. Bbbut it's $250 more than the mid range phone of last year 
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withoutclass posted:I'm hype as gently caress over the Pixel and it's going to own oowee. Bbbut it's $250 more than the mid range phone of last year that's easy for you to say, it's £300 more than a OnePlus 3 in the UK
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The Pixel phones are going to own. Thermopyle posted:Nerds are absolutely retarded about the Pixel. I assume it's because the last few generations of Nexus have been kinda cheap. If you've ever had to use desktop Linux for a while, you've probably noticed it feels like it's always 90% finished. It's missing the level of polish that comes with a paid-for OS because it's more fun to develop new poo poo than to finish what's already started, which is also how Google traditionally operates. The Pixel makes up 10% with things that won't be listed on the spec sheet. It has UFS 2.0 which should be speedy compared the abysmally slow NAND in the 6P. Google is also taking advantage of hardware features on the 821 for faster HDR processing which isn't something that would have been done on a Nexus. They've optimized the software for the hardware instead of running the ideal of "stock" Android. Dave Burke, VP of engineering for Android posted:touch latency [on the Pixel] is the best of any Android device ever produced. If you put it under high-speed camera, it’s on par with an iPhone. Of course there's a chance it will be garbage, but I have high hopes because of the Pixel C. It was panned largely because of the woeful state of the Android tablet ecosystem, but praised for its hardware. It's still the best Android device I've ever used. It's fast as hell; I don't get any performance hiccups on it. The battery lasts for days and I haven't had an instance of a runaway process slashing battery life. It feels great, and despite me using it every day still looks and runs like it's brand new. The Pixel phones should at least get this level of attention, probably more with the huge marketing push. In short: withoutclass posted:I'm hype as gently caress over the Pixel and it's going to own oowee. Bbbut it's $250 more than the mid range phone of last year The rest of y'all can expect a slightly dinged and donged 128GB white 6P on SA-Mart in a month or so.
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Zero VGS posted:Edit: 4.2 stars out of $2,457 reviews, a couple of the one star reviews say the phone caught fire, but at least it catches fire for $800 less than the competition!  Our phone has all the most important features of the Samsung Galaxy Note! It catches fire twice as fast as the competition! Buy now
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butt dickus posted:The Pixel phones are going to own. Counterpoint: The Venn diagram of people who care that much about the total user experience, people who prefer Android, people with the money to spend that a Pixel costs, and people who know that the Pixel exists is so small as to be nonexistent.
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LastInLine posted:Counterpoint: The Venn diagram of people who care that much about the total user experience, people who prefer Android, people with the money to spend that a Pixel costs, and people who know that the Pixel exists is so small as to be nonexistent. Got a 32GB XL on pre-order. Not entirely decided whether to keep it yet but I'm weak so probably will, at least if I can get £250 or something for the 6P.
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LastInLine posted:Counterpoint: The Venn diagram of people who care that much about the total user experience, people who prefer Android, people with the money to spend that a Pixel costs, and people who know that the Pixel exists is so small as to be nonexistent.
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LastInLine posted:Counterpoint: The Venn diagram of people who care that much about the total user experience, people who prefer Android, people with the money to spend that a Pixel costs, and people who know that the Pixel exists is so small as to be nonexistent. I'm not sure I agree. I know a lot of iOS users who are sick of having an iPhone and the various forms of baggage that come with it, but don't want to switch to Android cause it "feels" wrong. Obviously this is a pretty hard to pin down criticism, but touch responsiveness is a big deal that will definitely make a big subconscious difference without being easily identifiable. Other things that iOS has always done better include faster storage, massively better memory architecture, snappier higher-quality camera, and consistent performance. It sounds like these are the things that Google is starting to tackle head on. The other obvious criticism of android as an ecosystem is that it's cheap or tacky. Cheap is obvious, there's a billion old poo poo Android devices, and I think tacky is obvious too - Samsung utterly dominates the Android market, mostly for obvious reasons. They produce fantastic hardware that's fast and durable and lasting (note7 joke here), but they load their phones with astonishing loads of bullshit. It's tacky, poorly put together, and needlessly fragmenting and confusing. This is where the tacky feeling comes from. Of course most OEM's do this but Samsung is the big player, and by far the worst offender. If there's a true Android flagship that can take all these criticisms and fix them (Nexus devices were never true flagships), even if its sales are dwarved by Samsung, it'll properly highlight what Android is supposed to be like, and give those people on the edge of switching a reason to. I'm not sure how many people I could convince to take the huge price, but if it goes on sale for ~$500 I know several lifetime iPhone users who would be ready to switch.
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Taffer posted:if it goes on sale for ~$500 I know several lifetime iPhone users who would be ready to switch. If it goes on sale for $500, I think a lot of people complaining about it would buy one. I don't think anyone is saying it's a bad phone, and it's great that Google is starting to polish Android, but with the leaked price, I think most people were expecting something more significant than polish.
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Mr. Powers posted:If it goes on sale for $500, I think a lot of people complaining about it would buy one. I don't think anyone is saying it's a bad phone, and it's great that Google is starting to polish Android, but with the leaked price, I think most people were expecting something more significant than polish. I mostly agree, but polish sounds bad in a press event and on spec sheets, but means a ton when it's in your hand. I'm not gonna say it'll be incredible because I don't know, but I expect reviews when the device is actually release to be far more positive than initial event reactions.
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I've seen a great deal of discussion in this thread over the past year about proper charge cables to order for the 5x and 6p. Can anyone point me to a place that sells reliable cables, please? I'm looking for a car charger and some normal cables that plug into a charger (I can't really tell if these exist like they do for the Nexus 4 and 5).
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Vasler posted:I've seen a great deal of discussion in this thread over the past year about proper charge cables to order for the 5x and 6p. Can anyone point me to a place that sells reliable cables, please? I'm looking for a car charger and some normal cables that plug into a charger (I can't really tell if these exist like they do for the Nexus 4 and 5). I need the same. I assume the 5X comes with a quick C charger, but I'll need a car charger and an A-to-C cable for computer connection (plus at least one extra C-to-C cable. I like my house and don't want to burn it down.
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I just pre-ordered a blue Pixel because I don't want to keep up the the Joneses, I will be the Joneses for once. Now give me my free VR headset so I can watch VR porn.
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butt dickus posted:The Pixel makes up 10% with things that won't be listed on the spec sheet. I don't say that to be smug or anything, but rather to point out just how far discussion of Android seems to have shifted from where it was 7 years ago when Verizon was airing commercials trumpeting the first Droid. It's been fascinating over the years to watch the most vocal criticisms of iOS (no SD cards, no removable batteries, Walled Garden, etc.) be homogenized with (stock, at least) Android. Google doesn't care about removable batteries or SD cards, they've moved more core functionality into Play services which they own, rooting is now mocked, etc. It's just interesting to see how priorities seem to change, keeping in mind that this thread's desires don't necessarily reflect the average consumer. Star War Sex Parrot fucked around with this message at 01:27 on Oct 6, 2016 |
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Mr. Powers posted:I need the same. I assume the 5X comes with a quick C charger, but I'll need a car charger and an A-to-C cable for computer connection (plus at least one extra C-to-C cable. I like my house and don't want to burn it down. The 5x charger has been proven to be out of spec. Don't ever use it with any other USB C device.
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Tbh, the prompt updates that the Pixel should get means that I'm still likely to get one - its just that the price and other set of features turn the phone from a "must buy" to a "probably buy".
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bull3964 posted:The 5x charger has been proven to be out of spec. Don't ever use it with any other USB C device. How are you meant to charge the 5x then? What should we purchase instead?
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Vasler posted:How are you meant to charge the 5x then? What should we purchase instead? ONLY use it with the 5x. Never use it, or its cable, on any other device.
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Star War Sex Parrot posted:Y'all would have mocked iOS users for saying poo poo like "intangibles matter" in the past, and talked about the Reality Distortion Field. A lot of those are symptoms of just the technology progressing, though. Early smartphones were hell without SD cards and removable batteries - internal storage was tiny and there was a much greater need for storage before we have the ease of cloud access like we do today. And of course batteries are far better now - even though consumption has gone way up batteries in general have outpaced it. Your smartphone charge is gonna last a lot longer now than it did ~6 years ago. To the average user, this stuff doesn't need to be included anymore. And "intangibles" have always been important. I've been an Android user since the early days and have always preferred it, but it's silly to turn a blind eye to its weaknesses - these are issues that have plagued its acceptance and overall quality for the entirety of its life. We can safely say we like Android and strongly prefer it while still acknowledging and pointing out that it has a lot of pitfalls. And indeed that's necessary, because without criticizing them they won't get improved upon as quickly. As for the "walled garden" stuff... eh. I've always thought it was lame to need to root or deeply customize a device to have a good experience. And as a developer I pray for more homogenization. And open platform is cool but fragmentation is a huge downside and sucks hard for developers and users alike. Massively inconsistent experiences and poo poo OEM software and slow (or non-existant) update cycles plague the platform from usability and security standpoint and have needed to be directly taken on by Google for a long time.
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CLAM DOWN posted:I'm not sure how being pretty annoyed at the pricing outside the USA is "absolutely retarded" but hey if you want to be hyperbolic... Why do you think I'm talking about you? I'm not. As I mentioned I'm specifically talking about all the people who are upset the Pixel isn't the bargain basement price Nexus phones have been in the past because they've built up this expectation about them. Internet Explorer posted:"Absolutely retarded." Sorry for not being more clear. ^^ Star War Sex Parrot posted:Y'all would have mocked iOS users for saying poo poo like "intangibles matter" in the past, and talked about the Reality Distortion Field. Ehh, I'm not sure about this. I mean there's definitely the set of users you're describing, but a large part of this thread has been saying this stuff for years...even to the point where iPhones are recommended quite a bit in here. I quite clearly remember when I was thinking about getting a Nexus One people in this thread talking about how the intangible things about the iPhone were hard to describe but there may be certain concrete features Android would offer me that would make me prefer it.
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bull3964 posted:The 5x charger has been proven to be out of spec. Don't ever use it with any other USB C device. The only other type C devices I have are some very expensive custom hardware at work. Noted.
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bull3964 posted:The 5x charger has been proven to be out of spec. Don't ever use it with any other USB C device. One of them is. There's a couple packaged with them from different manufacturers.
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I have a lovely Samsung Galaxy S5 from Sprint loaded to the brim with bloatware that is impossible to remove. So tonight I ordered the Pixel XL. Can't wait to get my phone and be done with Sprint.
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Star War Sex Parrot posted:Y'all would have mocked iOS users for saying poo poo like "intangibles matter" in the past Oh for sure, that's why this thread has recommended Nexus phones for years and years
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LastInLine posted:Counterpoint: The Venn diagram of people who care that much about the total user experience, people who prefer Android, people with the money to spend that a Pixel costs, and people who know that the Pixel exists is so small as to be nonexistent. It me.
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Thermopyle posted:We've got Chromecasts, Google Home, Nexus, Pixel, Chromebooks, the WiFi thingy, blah blah blah. I was thinking a thread for Living The Google Lifestyle that was about all of that poo poo together might make sense. Wouldn't this be the Android app thread basically?
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