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I feel like I have an inordinate number of Cat monkeys for only doing 2 drafts. They're the dregs of almost every pack!
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Yo MTGO players, I heard that prices went down on MTGO cards when WotC announced the prize changes. Are the booster prices so low because of that? EMN is 1.6, SOI is 1.2, for a set that just rotated. That's crazy! Even Kaladesh packs which just started doing prerelease events are being sold at 3.36 tix, which is far lower than I can ever remember for a set that was just released. Were the prize cuts really that drastic? I opened a single treasure chest and got a Chandra, Flamecaller which I sold for 6.5 tix, if all the chests are that good we're golden.
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Oct 6, 2016 09:12
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Did a couple of pre-release sealed leagues on Modo yesterday, can confirm Jolly Green Gearhulk and Skysovereign are total bullshit. Edit: In all those matches I never once saw anyone actually make servos with the fabricate mechanic, just seemed far more value to make bigger dudes in the absence of none damage removal spells.
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Oct 6, 2016 09:13
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Sickening posted:My local meta has more than its fair share of ad nauseam and bogles. Since I am trying new things and I am in a gently caress it mood, i decided to sleeve up this incredibly narrow sideboard card as a two of. Why not just play an Engineered Explosives? Way less narrow and still very good vs bogles. Unless you don't have one, then I understand not wanting to spend $40.
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Oct 6, 2016 10:34
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Skysovereign might be the best first pick since it doesn't commit you color-wise.
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Oct 6, 2016 11:00
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Any goons going to GP London? Me and a few friends are going to side events and get stuff signed. Going to be a big one this year, over 2500 people signed up for the GP + the countless people walking in to do other stuff. Hope it's going to be more well run that the previous UK GP I went to which was a shitshow, that's for sure.
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Oct 6, 2016 12:41
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Samael posted:Any goons going to GP London? Me and a few friends are going to side events and get stuff signed. Going to be a big one this year, over 2500 people signed up for the GP + the countless people walking in to do other stuff. Hope it's going to be more well run that the previous UK GP I went to which was a shitshow, that's for sure. Yeah, I'll be there. Not for the main event though, didn't really fancy the fees this time around. Side events beckon.
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Oct 6, 2016 13:21
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Will be doing side events on Sunday, didn't fancy the price of the main event with a mat I don't like the look of, plus I have Oktoberfest on Saturday. Would a GP be a good place to sell mats? I have some spares from previous GPs and some of SCG's creature collection. Maybe should try the Facebook trading groups again, but got no takers before.
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Oct 6, 2016 13:53
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Fingers McLongDong posted:Why not just play an Engineered Explosives? Way less narrow and still very good vs bogles. Unless you don't have one, then I understand not wanting to spend $40. Engineered explosives is a great sideboard card and i use it. It can't touch leyline though so it's basically a dead draw against ad nauseam.
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Oct 6, 2016 14:59
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What about Fracturing Gust? It can get at artifacts too.
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Oct 6, 2016 15:08
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Star Man posted:What about Fracturing Gust? It can get at artifacts too. Boggles and Ad Nausiam will kill you dead before you get to cast it.
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Hellsau posted:Yo MTGO players, I heard that prices went down on MTGO cards when WotC announced the prize changes. Are the booster prices so low because of that? EMN is 1.6, SOI is 1.2, for a set that just rotated. That's crazy! Even Kaladesh packs which just started doing prerelease events are being sold at 3.36 tix, which is far lower than I can ever remember for a set that was just released. Were the prize cuts really that drastic? The prize changes were mathed out and it turned out they are a significant EV gain, not a cut. People are just stupid.
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Oct 6, 2016 15:19
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By my reckoning, these are the cards in Standard that perfectly answer Smuggler's Copter. (By that I mean that they are guaranteed to be at least card advantage neutral and to prevent your opponent from getting in a single hit with a copter, even if they have a perfect hand and you are on the draw.) Ceremonious Rejection Aether Meltdown Immolating Glare Grasp of Darkness Harnessed Lightning
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Oct 6, 2016 15:27
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blaise rascal posted:By my reckoning, these are the cards in Standard that perfectly answer Smuggler's Copter. (By that I mean that they are guaranteed to be at least card advantage neutral and to prevent your opponent from getting in a single hit with a copter, even if they have a perfect hand and you are on the draw.) Spatial distortion is pretty good right now too.
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Oct 6, 2016 15:29
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blaise rascal posted:By my reckoning, these are the cards in Standard that perfectly answer Smuggler's Copter. (By that I mean that they are guaranteed to be at least card advantage neutral and to prevent your opponent from getting in a single hit with a copter, even if they have a perfect hand and you are on the draw.) Natural State does also, as does Spatial Contortion.
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E: awful app made me accidentally delete this post. My main takeaway is that the only cards that work perfectly on the draw, that don't let your opponent loot, and that don't care about Depala, are Fragmentize, Natural State, Ceremonious Rejection, and Grasp of Darkness.
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Oct 6, 2016 15:35
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blaise rascal posted:By my reckoning, these are the cards in Standard that perfectly answer Smuggler's Copter. (By that I mean that they are guaranteed to be at least card advantage neutral and to prevent your opponent from getting in a single hit with a copter, even if they have a perfect hand and you are on the draw.) How do we feel about Authority of the Consuls in control decks against Copter-lead aggro? I've not played the new standard yet, but vehicles sort of grant pseudo haste to new creatures. Besides blunting them a bit with the life gain, they can't use incoming creatures to pilot copters.
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Oct 6, 2016 15:58
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blaise rascal posted:By my reckoning, these are the cards in Standard that perfectly answer Smuggler's Copter. (By that I mean that they are guaranteed to be at least card advantage neutral and to prevent your opponent from getting in a single hit with a copter, even if they have a perfect hand and you are on the draw.) Aether Meltdown only stops it dealing damage, they still get to loot. Skywhaler's Shot is what you want. Blessed Alliance is probably also decent.
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Oct 6, 2016 16:01
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mattah posted:Aether Meltdown only stops it dealing damage, they still get to loot. As much as I was really like skywhaler's shot at first, there is just too much stuff it doesn't hit and taking an entire turn off to do it doesn't seem to fit the meta. Blessed alliance is a pretty flexible option though although you are only going to get over a good player once in a match with the edict.
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Oct 6, 2016 16:08
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Angry Grimace posted:The prize changes were mathed out and it turned out they are a significant EV gain, not a cut. People are just stupid. You can't blame people for not trusting wizards to not gently caress up mtgo.
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Oct 6, 2016 16:16
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I can't decide if I like UG Marvel or Temur Marvel.
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Angry Grimace posted:The prize changes were mathed out and it turned out they are a significant EV gain, not a cut. People are just stupid. My big issue with chests was that they weren't tradeable and they pivoted on that pretty fast, so that's cool. I don't even play constructed online, so it really wouldn't have affected me much though.
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Oct 6, 2016 16:22
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Angry Grimace posted:The prize changes were mathed out and it turned out they are a significant EV gain, not a cut. People are just stupid. Will this remain true as the chests circulate though?
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Oct 6, 2016 16:23
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80s James Hetfield posted:I can't decide if I like UG Marvel or Temur Marvel. You aren't giving anything up by playing Red and get to play Chandra, K Return and Harnessed Lightning.
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Oct 6, 2016 16:31
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mcmagic posted:You aren't giving anything up by playing Red and get to play Chandra, K Return and Harnessed Lightning. Holy gently caress your new avatar. You certainly piss people off on the regular.
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Oct 6, 2016 16:39
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Sickening posted:Holy gently caress your new avatar. You certainly piss people off on the regular. Imagine how he posts about Magic, applied to politics.
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Sickening posted:Holy gently caress your new avatar. You certainly piss people off on the regular. mcmagic is a really good poster.
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Oct 6, 2016 16:41
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odiv posted:It'll probably still be a gain (I think? who knows...), but the changes were "mathed out" before chests were out and according to numbers that are in no way fixed, right? Seems like any sort of proclamation about EV before people are actually cracking these things is premature. They released the numbers a couple of days ago, which is when people mathed out the corrected numbers. Before that people were assuming you'd get 0 Play Points or something.
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Oct 6, 2016 16:42
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Sickening posted:Holy gently caress your new avatar. You certainly piss people off on the regular. You make one offhand remark about car bombing someone.....
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Oct 6, 2016 16:49
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mcmagic posted:You aren't giving anything up by playing Red and get to play Chandra, K Return and Harnessed Lightning. One that plays a bunch of energy-giving creatures while the other places no creatures and a few red cards and the other puzzleknot. They seem like two different monsters so I'm confused what you mean by not giving anything up
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Oct 6, 2016 16:51
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Sickening posted:Holy gently caress your new avatar. You certainly piss people off on the regular. If someone wants to spend 20 bucks to win a pissing war on a website I'll go ahead and let them. They are the real moron.
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Organized Play update! Some of the money quotes:quote:For the first time, decklists were collected electronically. The original deadline for submitting the deck list was 7 p.m. local time, and was adjusted to 11:59 p.m. local time after receiving some feedback from the Pro Tour competitors. quote:In a nutshell, what we did in Sydney was make sure players with incentives (for example, "I'm playing to become the National Champion" or "I'm playing to reach the Top 8") would be randomly paired against each other within their respective score groups. quote:An assessment of the past season showed that the thresholds we had set were too low, as the change to X-3 cut for advancing to Day Two of a Grand Prix resulted in twice as many Pro Points being distributed compared to the previous year. Other tidbits of note:
-The Super Sunday Series is ending -Some GP venues were changed, GP Hong Kong is now a thing, and one of GP Vegas' formats was changed from noted bad format Standard to Limited
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Oct 6, 2016 16:56
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Immolating Glare isn't ideal because they get a loot off. It's also a pretty defensive card in general, although maybe that's fine right now.
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"Gee, I just don't understand why people think we're trying to reduce the number of people hitting platinum" *increases pro points required for platinum*
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I have been hammering testing this week and just can not settle on a deck. I have rejected; UR Thermo builds - just not fast enough, have to spend too much time killing creatures rather than burning. Unsure about; GW (Brad Nelson crew deck) - Nice mid/late game but stumbles a bit and can get run over BW control - WIll be fine as usual when the meta is stable(ish) but at the moments seems random, you get the right cards and smash your opponents... or loose. Wish I could work out a decent mardu build so I could run Radiant Flames. Jeskai flash (hooglands) liking this but am still totally not convinced about the blue draw/counter spells. Feels like it is trying to play control when it should be lower to the ground. Usually I have found a pet deck I like by now but not this time, how is everyone else finding testing? mcmagic posted:If someone wants to spend 20 bucks to win a pissing war on a website I'll go ahead and let them. They are the real moron. I like it better than your NRA one to be fair, I think you are a winner! DoctorOozy fucked around with this message at 18:03 on Oct 6, 2016 |
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Oct 6, 2016 18:01
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Angry Grimace posted:They released the numbers a couple of days ago, which is when people mathed out the corrected numbers. Before that people were assuming you'd get 0 Play Points or something.
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Oct 6, 2016 18:04
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DoctorOozy posted:I have been hammering testing this week and just can not settle on a deck. I've been testing a different version of this that runs 4x fevered visions and 4x dimensional infiltrator and 23 lands instead of 26 (and fewer avacyn's because I don't want to spend money on that poo poo). I like it way more than Hooglands list, and it plays like a tempo list, you stick a 2/1 flyer and then protect it with counters and creature removal and slowly plink away. I immediately cut the 4 mana 2 energy draw spell. T1 Wanderer into T2 rattlechains, into T3 keep counter mana up forever feels pretty good against everything that's not super aggro. And sometimes that T3 counter is a spell queller so you only increase your clock. Mezzanon fucked around with this message at 18:20 on Oct 6, 2016 |
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odiv posted:Right, but I'm saying the "corrected" numbers were still using values for cards that are out of date. By necessity, obviously. It's not like anyone has a crystal ball. Right, but the card values going down means that the pack values would go down also, no? DoctorOozy posted:I have been hammering testing this week and just can not settle on a deck. Temur Emerge requires very few cards from the new set and is quite good. I'd even go so far as to say its pretty inexpensive. Kozilek's Return and Emrakul are like the only expensive cards in it. The Grixis Version that did well last weekend is pretty good too, but Liliana adds a lot of price tag. Angry Grimace fucked around with this message at 18:51 on Oct 6, 2016 |
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Stupid question, has anyone noticed a missing common from their boxes? I was sorting the commons from my box last night, and noticed I only had 1 revolutionary rebuff, which was from my pre-release pool. I didn't get any in my prize packs from that, and from talking with the other people at the store, none can recall seeing one in either of the two drafts since then using those boxes. It's not a big loss in draft, it's just... weird. Plenty of energy counters though!
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Mezzanon posted:I've been testing a different version of this that runs 4x fevered visions and 4x dimensional infiltrator and 23 lands instead of 26 (and fewer avacyn's because I don't want to spend money on that poo poo). I like it way more than Hooglands list, and it plays like a tempo list, you stick a 2/1 flyer and then protect it with counters and creature removal and slowly plink away. I immediately cut the 4 mana 2 energy draw spell. Do you have a list for this one? What good countermagic exists in standard that you can play?
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