|
well why not posted:This is just how things work in the age of DLC, subscription models and microtransactions. It sucks. I didn't really think about it in this context, but this might be pretty apt. $12 bucks for launch date release copy, $15 for the expansion pack.
|
#
?
Oct 5, 2016 17:12
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 26, 2024 23:33 |
|
|
well why not posted:This is just how things work in the age of DLC, subscription models and microtransactions. It sucks. Director's cuts have existed since home video has existed, don't be ridiculous.
|
|
#
?
Oct 5, 2016 17:16
|
|
|
Drifter posted:I honestly can't imagine how to make SUicide Squad a good movie with fifteen or twenty extra minutes. It was just so lackluster. I think Suicide Squad could use a little breathing room and some smoother editing, there was definitely some stuff I thought was choppy and there were some good scenes and a solid enough underlying story. One of the big "cuts" was obviously the Harley/Deadshot romance and apparently the bar scene was cut drastically. But yeah I mean if you didn't like it at all, it's obviously not worth it to rewatch hoping it will be better. I liked BvS a lot even in the theater so wad going to buy it anyway - I actually thought the ultimate cut was a little weaker. Suicide Squad I will probably only rent which is cheaper anyway and I will probably have a friend or two over so that works out to a lot cheaper than a movie ticket anyway. There are a bunch of ways to see these movies between "pay full price twice" and "steal poo poo": rent* (potentially splitting the cost with friends), wait for premium channel or Netflix, make friends with a movie buff who buys everything and borrow their copy, I'm probably missing some options here. *apparently the red box near me is 1.64 for DVDs and 3.27 for Blu Ray so it's definitely not breaking the bank. This is in my neighborhood in Chicago so I don't know if that means shits cheaper since there's tons of locations in walking distance or more expensive since I live in yuppy-land
|
|
#
?
Oct 5, 2016 17:25
|
|
|
HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:Director's cuts have existed since home video has existed, don't be ridiculous. Longer than that even
|
|
#
?
Oct 5, 2016 17:25
|
|
|
'Extended' is a carefully chosen descriptor over 'Director's Cut', 'Uncut', 'Unrated', other popular terms for the same concept in recent years. Director's Cut or Uncut might imply the theatrical was lacking or imperfect in some way that is being corrected. Wiki suggests the practice was popularized in the 1970s. Perhaps it happens more on a 'planned' basis now, at least for raunchy comedies that count on big red UNRATED labels on the DVDs with the title over a naked lady's chest or whatever as a sales booster, but sometimes it was just a ratings management thing. I don't recall BvS theatrical much, but IIRC they're just adding scenes as opposed to re-editing or rearranging existing stuff like you see with some of the Blade Runner/Alien 3 versions.
|
|
#
?
Oct 5, 2016 17:41
|
|
|
I'm not sure how an extended cut would work with Suicide Squad, imo, the biggest problem I had with it was that the back half's Escape From New York tone and the front half's Pop Punk Music Video tone didn't mesh together very well and I don't know how just adding scenes would fix that.
|
|
|
#
?
Oct 5, 2016 17:50
|
|
|
HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:Director's cuts have existed since home video has existed, don't be ridiculous. I think his point was more that it is becoming ever more commonplace to have "extended editions" instead of just "deleted scenes". The actual truth of that might be where I (and the op) are probably mistaken though. Babysitter Super Sleuth posted:I'm not sure how an extended cut would work with Suicide Squad, imo, the biggest problem I had with it was that the back half's Escape From New York tone and the front half's Pop Punk Music Video tone didn't mesh together very well and I don't know how just adding scenes would fix that.
|
|
#
?
Oct 5, 2016 17:51
|
|
|
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXfHZ3AhcCc&t=30s
|
|
#
?
Oct 5, 2016 17:53
|
|
|
Jimbot posted:If Warner doesn't want 3-3.5 hour superhero films then they shouldn't be rushing to include multiple iconic characters in a single film in a new shared universe. Batman v Superman was hamstrung from the onset. I disagree with this. I can't help but think of something like the Justice League cartoon that can cram a deceptively large amount of plot into a 44 minute episode, even when they lowered the episode length to 22 minutes. Or the original Batman and Superman cartoon movie that was something like 60 minutes long and contained somehow even more plot than BvS and has an excellent Joker and Harley performance, alongside Luthor and Mercy. My point is it can be done, and without losing anything.
|
|
#
?
Oct 5, 2016 18:11
|
|
|
For a micro story using currently existing characters who are often one-note personalities or perspectives, sure. But over the course of that entire Justice League cartoon, characters have very little growth and their powers varied depending on what the story called for. Very little in the Justice League cartoon was as interesting as what was shown in the DC films and those things that were, often weren't about the actual Justice League characters.
|
|
#
?
Oct 5, 2016 18:17
|
|
|
Okay, well, I guess I'm not seeing Wonder Woman in theaters.
|
|
#
?
Oct 5, 2016 18:19
|
|
|
Jimbot posted:For a micro story using currently existing characters who are often one-note personalities or perspectives, sure. But over the course of that entire Justice League cartoon, characters have very little growth and their powers varied depending on what the story called for. Very little in the Justice League cartoon was as interesting as what was shown in the DC films and those things that were, often weren't about the actual Justice League characters. Gonna have to disagree on basically all counts there. But to be fair that just speaks to how good the Justice League cartoon was.
|
|
#
?
Oct 5, 2016 18:31
|
|
|
SolidSnakesBandana posted:Gonna have to disagree on basically all counts there. But to be fair that just speaks to how good the Justice League cartoon was. And honestly Snakes, you're goddamned smoking crack cocaine if you say that the BatmanSuperman TV Show movie had more plot than BvS. Boatloads of Crack. It had more robots exploding, maybe. Pirate Jet posted:Okay, well, I guess I'm not seeing Wonder Woman in theaters. This guy gets it.  Can't support my boys over at DC because I'm sick of this poo poo.  
Drifter fucked around with this message at 21:32 on Oct 5, 2016 |
|
#
?
Oct 5, 2016 21:27
|
|
|
New Dr. Strange TV spot with some ear-piercing sound design and uǝʍ ɟooʇɐƃǝ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evlaiJefPLQ
|
|
#
?
Oct 5, 2016 22:24
|
|
|
Aren't these DC Extended Editions actually better for the consumer? It used to be you'd buy the DVD and then six months later you'd have to buy whatever updated version (Extended, Director's, Uncut, etc.) they put out. Now the initial release includes both versions of the film so it's a win-win. (Outside, obviously, of seeing the original vision on the big screen.) Didn't Ayer say the theatrical version was the best version and the version he wanted to make? That makes it sound like some stuff has been put back in that wasn't intended. I haven't seen the film, so I don't know if that's a good thing or not.
|
|
#
?
Oct 5, 2016 23:40
|
|
|
Violator posted:Didn't Ayer say the theatrical version was the best version and the version he wanted to make? That makes it sound like some stuff has been put back in that wasn't intended. I haven't seen the film, so I don't know if that's a good thing or not. Yuip. He's said that the theatrical version is the exact film he wanted to make.
|
|
#
?
Oct 5, 2016 23:48
|
|
|
Drifter posted:Yuip. He's said that the theatrical version is the exact film he wanted to make. Did anybody actually believe him?
|
|
#
?
Oct 6, 2016 00:41
|
|
|
Why shouldn't they believe him? What about Suicide Squad receiving a home video-exclusive extended edition is different than any other movie that receives a home video-exclusive extended edition?
|
|
#
?
Oct 6, 2016 00:44
|
|
|
I'm David Ayer and I approve this message
|
|
#
?
Oct 6, 2016 01:19
|
|
|
K. Waste posted:Why shouldn't they believe him? What about Suicide Squad receiving a home video-exclusive extended edition is different than any other movie that receives a home video-exclusive extended edition? Because it did well enough to get a Special Edition.
|
|
#
?
Oct 6, 2016 02:37
|
|
|
HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:Because it did well enough to get a Special Edition. Well then how do you explain the Ghostbusters 2016 Special Edition
|
|
#
?
Oct 6, 2016 02:44
|
|
|
It did bad enough to deserve the special edition. I saw it and its not very good and doesn't help the film at all. Just a buncha dumb improv poo poo.
|
|
#
?
Oct 6, 2016 10:48
|
|
|
http://i.imgur.com/DHRMfj0.gifv http://i.imgur.com/vCwXr5h.gifv
|
|
#
?
Oct 6, 2016 14:19
|
|
|
ElNarez posted:I can't wait for people to suddenly say this is the cut that made the movie good, when actually it was good all along.
|
|
#
?
Oct 6, 2016 14:40
|
|
|
God drat. I mean, you don't have to be so loving brutal.   Putting CW up against BvS like that is like putting a 12 year old kid up against Mayweather in the ring.
|
|
#
?
Oct 6, 2016 15:17
|
|
|
Drifter posted:God drat. I mean, you don't have to be so loving brutal. That opening was the best part of BvS. Too bad about the rest.
|
|
#
?
Oct 6, 2016 15:20
|
|
|
As far as I'm concerned, it's not fair to oppose those scenes because they have very different intent. The point of that scene in CW is how cute Vision looks in a sweater.
|
|
#
?
Oct 6, 2016 15:22
|
|
|
I'm the news reporter slowly zooming in on the dead little girl on live TV.
|
|
#
?
Oct 6, 2016 15:33
|
|
|
I'm the sense of smug satisfaction the directors felt for pulling off that subtext-filled placement of Tony Stark.
|
|
#
?
Oct 6, 2016 15:36
|
|
|
The Avengers are just soooooo concerned. Man.
|
|
#
?
Oct 6, 2016 15:42
|
|
|
I still can't help but laugh when I think about how dumb Bruce Wayne's employee friend was for not leaving the building earlier in the scene.
|
|
#
?
Oct 6, 2016 16:16
|
|
|
It gave me more of a captain going down with the ship feel, and him making sure people got out.
|
|
#
?
Oct 6, 2016 16:19
|
|
|
Waynecorp doors lock from the outside.
|
|
#
?
Oct 6, 2016 16:20
|
|
|
well why not posted:I'm the sense of smug satisfaction the directors felt for pulling off that subtext-filled placement of Tony Stark. No they film it like a TV show, that's just where RDJ sat down when the director said 'alright let's get this scene over with'. SolidSnakesBandana posted:I still can't help but laugh when I think about how dumb Bruce Wayne's employee friend was for not leaving the building earlier in the scene. More than that, WTF is up with all the people standing still while Batman is on the cellphone? Do they not see the building getting shredded by space lasers a block away? Run you idiots! Electromax fucked around with this message at 16:29 on Oct 6, 2016 |
|
#
?
Oct 6, 2016 16:25
|
|
|
Really, Bruce Wayne's horror in that scene comes from the realization that the corporate work culture he has fostered at WayneCorp is compelling an elderly and possibly senile employee to ensure the sanctity of company property and their public image while, outside, the world is literally ending.
|
|
#
?
Oct 6, 2016 16:29
|
|
|
was that shot of people getting hit by the waves from the helicarrier crashing originally in winter soldier? i like it but i don't remember it there at all
|
|
#
?
Oct 6, 2016 16:30
|
|
|
SolidSnakesBandana posted:I still can't help but laugh when I think about how dumb Bruce Wayne's employee friend was for not leaving the building earlier in the scene. Casualties of the September 11 attacks posted:In the moments after Flight 11 struck the North Tower, the roughly 8,000 people on the floors below the point of impact (the 93rd to 99th floors) were faced with a harrowing scenario. The towers of the World Trade Center complex had not been designed to facilitate a mass evacuation of everybody in the buildings, and in each tower there were only three narrow stairwells descending to the ground level. Many people began to evacuate via the stairs on their own, while others chose to wait for instructions from the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey. Another hindrance to the evacuation of the World Trade Center was that as the planes struck, the force of the impact caused the buildings to shift enough to jam doors in their frames, trapping dozens of people throughout the building, mostly on the floors closer to the impact zone. As evacuees descended down the staircases in the North Tower, they were directed to descend to the concourse level beneath the World Trade Center complex, where the mall was located.
|
|
#
?
Oct 6, 2016 16:31
|
|
|
well why not posted:Waynecorp doors lock from the outside. Otherwise the criminals could just walk right out!
|
|
#
?
Oct 6, 2016 16:31
|
|
|
SolidSnakesBandana posted:I still can't help but laugh when I think about how dumb Bruce Wayne's employee friend was for not leaving the building earlier in the scene. An observer more than two or three blocks away from the destruction would feel the ground shaking, see some blue light, and hear that weird pulse...and not much else. The Daily Planet people don't initially leave either, and when they do destruction gets rained down on them (also they were wrong to leave, as the building survives the incident just fine) Like, it's really silly to judge people for panicking in the face of an alien gravity beam weapon + military jet assault going on over their heads. Honestly a no-win situation.
|
|
#
?
Oct 6, 2016 16:33
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 26, 2024 23:33 |
|
|
Yeah, if I looked out my window and saw poo poo exploding and falling everywhere I'd feel OK about staying indoors. The waynecorp building seems fairly unscathed until Superman crashed directly into it. Not a lot of time to escape after that. Zod started lazer beaming basically right away. Say what you will about BvS, but that shot of Ben running against the cloud is amazing. It makes me want a BvS / Force Majeure mashup.
|
|
#
?
Oct 6, 2016 16:39
|
|