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Trin Tragula posted:100 Years Ago: An Announcement Dude, you own, don't sweat it.
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Plan Z posted:Can anyone do any pieces on utility/history of slingshots in ancient combat? It's something I've always been curious about, but whenever I remember to look it up, the stuff I find is unsatisfactory. Whatever era/military info you can share would be wonderful. Do you mean slingshots or slings?
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Anyone know what the best sources are for the Boshin War by any chance? Was looking to do some research into it and don't really know where to start.
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:Do you mean slingshots or slings? Meant slings, sorry.
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# ? Oct 6, 2016 17:21 |
Slings were pretty loving badass. A strong thrower at close range could embed a bullet in someone's flesh or fracture a skull. P.H. Blyth's Effectiveness of Greek Armour Against Arrows in the Persian War gives a 24 gram sling bullet an average energy of 30-36 joules. This isn't much compared to a gun or a composite bow, but it's enough to dent bronze armor or kill. David was packing the ancient world's equivalent of a handgun against Goliath.
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INinja132 posted:Anyone know what the best sources are for the Boshin War by any chance? Was looking to do some research into it and don't really know where to start. Same, since I am slowly building up my 19th century conflict books I'd also be down for good suggestions reguarding the conflict. Same with the Sino-Japanese War as well!
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SeanBeansShako posted:Same, since I am slowly building up my 19th century conflict books I'd also be down for good suggestions reguarding the conflict. Same with the Sino-Japanese War as well! While we're at it, if anyone is secretly a Donghak rebellion expert please speak up.
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Things are rumbling in the Baker-verse - might have another postscript update coming along soon.
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# ? Oct 6, 2016 18:32 |
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Plan Z posted:Can anyone do any pieces on utility/history of slingshots in ancient combat? It's something I've always been curious about, but whenever I remember to look it up, the stuff I find is unsatisfactory. Whatever era/military info you can share would be wonderful. Sometimes sling bullets had dongs on them.
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# ? Oct 6, 2016 18:41 |
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This is the best thing
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P-Mack posted:While we're at it, if anyone is secretly a Donghak rebellion expert please speak up. Not in the slightest but if you have any particular questions I can probably help out, my Korean is mildly okay and I know a bunch of Koreans who are into history.
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Ice Fist posted:This is the best thing the Perusine war was serious business
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TerminalSaint posted:Sometimes sling bullets had dongs on them. Not much has changed
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Would they be okay with you drawing a penis on a bomb though?
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# ? Oct 6, 2016 19:10 |
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I'm afraid the recipient won't be able to make out the chalked message after the shell bomb has been delivered to its target even if it was a dud should engrave it on the surface instead even better if you engrave the shell from the inside so that the splinters form in the shape of
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# ? Oct 6, 2016 19:16 |
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You need to topologically invert it so that it creates dong-shaped shrapnel.
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# ? Oct 6, 2016 19:20 |
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WoodrowSkillson posted:
I can't find it right now but someone in GBS got 'Caro Package' scrawled on a Ukrainian artillery shell. War in the Internet age is weird and terrifying.
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# ? Oct 6, 2016 19:28 |
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If u ain't Balearic u aint poo poo
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StashAugustine posted:I can't find it right now but someone in GBS got 'Caro Package' scrawled on a Ukrainian artillery shell. War in the Internet age is weird and terrifying. That was me. I still have the picture on my phone as a trophy of the time I kinda sorta participated in bombing Russians invading Ukraine.
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# ? Oct 6, 2016 19:31 |
Behold.
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Fangz posted:Would they be okay with you drawing a penis on a bomb though? This definitely happened on my last deployment this past year. I didn't bother with any of it but a few buddies went up and wrote on the bombs a couple times and there were some dongs
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FastestGunAlive posted:This definitely happened on my last deployment this past year. I didn't bother with any of it but a few buddies went up and wrote on the bombs a couple times and there were some dongs Good to know.
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FastestGunAlive posted:This definitely happened on my last deployment this past year. I didn't bother with any of it but a few buddies went up and wrote on the bombs a couple times and there were some dongs Milhist: there were some dongs Also works as a forum rename for GiP
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When you think about, warfare really is the mass mobilisation and long term support of many dongs in the field.
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Nenonen posted:I'm afraid the recipient won't be able to make out the chalked message after the shell bomb has been delivered to its target even if it was a dud I was just about to ask if they ever found cheeky messages on the old unexploded ordinance that they find every so often all over Europe.
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chitoryu12 posted:That was me. I still have the picture on my phone as a trophy of the time I kinda sorta participated in bombing Russians invading Ukraine.
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Arquinsiel posted:I thought the best one from that thread was "I hope this finds you in good health". I wish someone got "Get out of here stalker" on one.
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SeanBeansShako posted:When you think about, warfare really is the mass mobilisation and long term support of many dongs in the field. To continue mil dong chat, painting a name on your cannon tube using the first letter of the battery's designator is a tradition. My last unit, battery L had one named Lex Steele
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lenoon posted:Things are rumbling in the Baker-verse - might have another postscript update coming along soon. Man the Bakerverse is my favourite Marvel series.
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# ? Oct 6, 2016 20:19 |
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I found some pics taken by Finnish army's photographers The caption on this set: The first American prisoners in a European battlefield The set of photos shows among the others a Finnish boy named Jansson. Lieutenant Vartio and the said guy discuss in clear Finnish. The prisoners, altogether 22, are put in the same camp with their Russian brothers in arms. Litsa 1942.07.27 Litsa River is to west of Murmansk, so these would be taken in a German camp. Ltn. Vartio offering cigarettes, it looks like. Russian POWs in the background. At least the guy on the right looks like a civilian. This must be the Jansson the original caption mentions. It would be nice to hear some more information about these fellas if anyone knows - would they be airmen, seamen..? Some might be even identifiable, at least Mr. Jansson?? There was also this portrait with caption "American. Nastola prisoner camp 1941.07.08". Presumably one of those unfortunate North Americans who moved to the Worker's Paradise in the 1920's-30's. Nastola was one of the two organizing camps where Finnish POWs were distributed further on. 30% chance that he didn't survive the POW camps. And if he did survive there's also a major chance that he was treated as a foreign traitor spy... It's always so sad to think of these 'outsiders' caught in the war, like those Koreans who ended up in Normandy. Nenonen fucked around with this message at 20:30 on Oct 6, 2016 |
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That reminds me, I went to the Mighty 8th museum near Savannah about a month ago. Along with some really cool planes (centered around a B-17 in restoration), they have a ton of artifacts from the 8th Air Force's actions during World War II. Lots of bomber jackets with cool artwork, but there's also a whole section of artifacts just related to POWs and airmen who died in action. One display has some packages of Wrigley's gum along with the envelope they were sent in. An airman's family sent him the gum as a care package from America, but he was shot down and killed over Germany. The envelope was returned to their house with "Missing" written on it.
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chitoryu12 posted:That reminds me, I went to the Mighty 8th museum near Savannah about a month ago. Along with some really cool planes (centered around a B-17 in restoration), they have a ton of artifacts from the 8th Air Force's actions during World War II. Lots of bomber jackets with cool artwork, but there's also a whole section of artifacts just related to POWs and airmen who died in action. I drive by it sometimes on trips to my grandparents' place, but I never feel like I have time to look around.
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:If u ain't Balearic u aint poo poo my man (the Balearic islands are a tiny archipelago off of Spain that were legendary for their slingers in ancient times)
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Less exciting than Nenonen's ace pictures but still possibly of interest :drumroll: Postscript Part 2: Baker the Very Last A review! Saturday Review, 1930. "The Conchie" Raglan Somerset Ouch. Fitzroy Raglan Somerset, 4th Baron Raglan, who would have known you would be so condescendingly bastardly to the hero of our little story? You, who had been in the Grenadier Guards since George was a boy, who had held a comfortable staff post in Hong Kong and then in Cairo, who could have foreseen this review? Interestingly - of note perhaps to those who realised George's story was (possibly sub-)consciously written as a mythic hero narrative in fine imperial tradition, Raglan Somerset would go on to make his name fairly well known in the realms of Imperial Anthropology by writing "The Hero", a book I have on my shelf, which looks at the commonalities of hero narratives, but fails to recognise one that hews closely to the archetypical structure. edit: To be fair, it is a remarkable book, and it is also one of a wavering CO, so a lot of what he says is fairly justified - and George's honesty and strength of purpose is there in print! But then, as if returning as a mighty hero of Socialism: "exceedingly clever, wholly diverting and not quite charitable" That's the very final word I've come across from the man. Oh how perfectly George. lenoon fucked around with this message at 20:46 on Oct 6, 2016 |
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wdarkk posted:I drive by it sometimes on trips to my grandparents' place, but I never feel like I have time to look around. It's absolutely worth the visit. It takes about 2 hours to get through if you want to see everything and there's an incredible number of artifacts on display. This is my favorite post-capture bomber jacket:
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chitoryu12 posted:Slings were pretty loving badass. A strong thrower at close range could embed a bullet in someone's flesh or fracture a skull. P.H. Blyth's Effectiveness of Greek Armour Against Arrows in the Persian War gives a 24 gram sling bullet an average energy of 30-36 joules. This isn't much compared to a gun or a composite bow, but it's enough to dent bronze armor or kill. David was packing the ancient world's equivalent of a handgun against Goliath. I've seen people using them on Youtube in stuff, but it still never gave me the idea of the power, but this helps a bit more. I remember seeing a few battle stories where they were effective against cavalry since a loving-fast rock did have uses against a person precariously balanced on a moving animal that frightens relatively easily.
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Plan Z posted:I've seen people using them on Youtube in stuff, but it still never gave me the idea of the power, but this helps a bit more. I remember seeing a few battle stories where they were effective against cavalry since a loving-fast rock did have uses against a person precariously balanced on a moving animal that frightens relatively easily. Here is a Roman dude talking about removing sling bullets, this should give you all of the info you need to grasp how powerful they were. They were heavy bullets of lead that hit very hard. They were also scary in a different way then massed arrow fire, as you could not see them coming and raise your shield at them. Celsus:De Medicina posted:"There is a third kind of missile which at times has to be extracted such as a lead ball or a pebble, or such like, which has penetrated the skin and become fixed within unbroken. In all such cases the wound should be laid open freely, and the retained object pulled out by forceps the way it entered. But some difficulty is added in the case of any injury in which a missile has become fixed in bone, or in a joint between the ends of two bones. When in a bone, the missile is swayed until the place which grips the point yields, after which it is extracted by the hand, or by forceps; this is the method also used in extracting teeth. In this way the missile nearly always comes out, but if it resists, it can be dislodged by striking it with some instrument. The last resort when it cannot be pulled out, is to bore into the bone with a trepan close by the missile, and from that hole to cut away the bone in the shape of the letter V, so that the lines of the letter which diverge to either side face the missile; after that it is necessarily loosened and easily removed. If the missile has forced its way actually into a joint between the ends of two bones, the limbs above and below are encircled by bandages or straps, by means of which they are pulled in opposite directions, so that the sinews are put on the stretch; the space between the ends of the bone is widened by these extensions, so that the missile is without difficulty withdrawn. In doing this care must be taken, as mentioned elsewhere, to avoid injury to a sinew, vein or artery while the weapon is being extracted by the same method which was described above." And here is a reenactor dude demonstrating it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aaq0KzvX_E4
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Fitzroy Raglan Somerset is related of the man who is infamous for commanding the British Army forces during most of the Crimean War Campaign.
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