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atomicthumbs
Dec 26, 2010


We're in the business of extending man's senses.
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Robzilla
Jul 28, 2003

READ IT AND WEEP JEWBOY!
Fun Shoe
So I just got back from my therapist and I guess it's official, ADHD. Results of the WAIS were pretty much what I expected. Above Average verbal and processing speed. Excellent perceptual reasoning, and working memory is a large issue for me (so typical ADHD.) He still needs to write up the full report that breaks everything down. Now it's figuring out where to go from here.

Mechafunkzilla
Sep 11, 2006

If you want a vision of the future...

Robzilla posted:

So I just got back from my therapist and I guess it's official, ADHD. Results of the WAIS were pretty much what I expected. Above Average verbal and processing speed. Excellent perceptual reasoning, and working memory is a large issue for me (so typical ADHD.) He still needs to write up the full report that breaks everything down. Now it's figuring out where to go from here.

Congratulations on your brain damage :toot:

ONE OF US

Robzilla
Jul 28, 2003

READ IT AND WEEP JEWBOY!
Fun Shoe

Mechafunkzilla posted:

Congratulations on your brain damage :toot:

ONE OF US

Yay :toot: :derp: :toot:

Harrow
Jun 30, 2012

Okay, it's time for me to finally talk to a doctor.

Thing is, I'm not really sure how to go about it. I don't have a primary care physician, or I'd just make an appointment with them and talk about it. Do you just call up a local clinic and say you want to talk to a doctor about getting tested for ADHD? Do you go straight to a therapist or psychiatrist? I don't even really know where to start.

taqueso
Mar 8, 2004


:911:
:wookie: :thermidor: :wookie:
:dehumanize:

:pirate::hf::tinfoil:

Harrow posted:

Okay, it's time for me to finally talk to a doctor.

Thing is, I'm not really sure how to go about it. I don't have a primary care physician, or I'd just make an appointment with them and talk about it. Do you just call up a local clinic and say you want to talk to a doctor about getting tested for ADHD? Do you go straight to a therapist or psychiatrist? I don't even really know where to start.

I was in a similar situation. I just made an appointment with a psychiatrist that I picked sort-of randomly. After seeing me they suggested I get a primary care physician, so I did. It is nice to have a doctor that knows what is going on in my life rather than whoever is at the urgent care.

Harrow
Jun 30, 2012

Turns out I was assigned a PCP by my insurance, so I called up their office and made an appointment for next week.

It's weird. On the one hand, I don't want to have ADHD. Who would? But if that's what it is, it would explain so much. Like I'm equally terrified that I'm right as I am that I'm wrong.

Mechafunkzilla
Sep 11, 2006

If you want a vision of the future...

Harrow posted:

Turns out I was assigned a PCP by my insurance, so I called up their office and made an appointment for next week.

It's weird. On the one hand, I don't want to have ADHD. Who would? But if that's what it is, it would explain so much. Like I'm equally terrified that I'm right as I am that I'm wrong.

My advice would be to talk to a therapist about it first -- and also about the anxieties you have about a possible diagnosis.

e: oh, and if possible one who specializes in ADD. There's a shocking number of mental health professionals who don't know poo poo about ADD.

Harrow
Jun 30, 2012

Mechafunkzilla posted:

My advice would be to talk to a therapist about it first -- and also about the anxieties you have about a possible diagnosis.

e: oh, and if possible one who specializes in ADD. There's a shocking number of mental health professionals who don't know poo poo about ADD.

I'll definitely look around for therapists, too.

I was kind of surprised when I called the clinic, actually. It's a University of Wisconsin clinic and it looks like the whole system takes ADHD (childhood and adult) very seriously. The nurse I spoke to had about a half-hour conversation with me about it before scheduling me for an appointment. They have a list of affiliated behavioral specialists and psychologists on their site, so I'll try to get an appointment with one of them, too.

Mechafunkzilla
Sep 11, 2006

If you want a vision of the future...

Harrow posted:

I'll definitely look around for therapists, too.

I was kind of surprised when I called the clinic, actually. It's a University of Wisconsin clinic and it looks like the whole system takes ADHD (childhood and adult) very seriously. The nurse I spoke to had about a half-hour conversation with me about it before scheduling me for an appointment. They have a list of affiliated behavioral specialists and psychologists on their site, so I'll try to get an appointment with one of them, too.

That all sounds great. Remember, you're still you, nothing magically changes just because you get a diagnosis. You'll walk out the same person you were when you walked in, just possibly with a word that helps to describe the things you've already been experiencing.

Harrow
Jun 30, 2012

Mechafunkzilla posted:

That all sounds great. Remember, you're still you, nothing magically changes just because you get a diagnosis. You'll walk out the same person you were when you walked in, just possibly with a word that helps to describe the things you've already been experiencing.

Thanks, I appreciate it. Gonna take some deep breaths and chill out this weekend and then if it turns out I'm diagnosed, that just means I'll have more help figuring out what to do next. :unsmith:

i am tim!
Jan 5, 2005

God damn it, where are my ant keys?! I'm gonna miss my flight!
Hey people, ADHD haver here. I'm pretty well at peace with the whole thing; I had been diagnosed in middle school, then rediagnosed at the age of 20 after I went through an awful "Medication makes you weak" phase in my teen years.

One thing that stuck out to me from my second diagnosis was a question I was asked during the doctor's test, "Do you like to read or learn about Ancient Civilizations?" I'm paraphrasing this because it's been ten years, and while my answer was "Absolutely!" I always wondered why I was asked the question. It didn't seem like the doctor's personal test or anything, is there something about ADHD that makes you like old dead countries?

i am tim! fucked around with this message at 15:14 on Oct 5, 2016

Astrofig
Oct 26, 2009
No idea why that would be but chalk me up as another ADHDer who loves learning about collapsed civilizations.

Vladimir Poutine
Aug 13, 2012
:madmax:
I read about Egypt, Rome and Mesoamerica like a god drat fiend when I was younger.

Solkanar512
Dec 28, 2006

by the sex ghost

i am tim! posted:


One thing that stuck out to me from my second diagnosis was a question I asked during the doctor's test, "Do you like to read or learn about Ancient Civilizations?" I'm paraphrasing this because it's been ten years, and while my answer was "Absolutely!" I always wondered why I was asked the question. It didn't seem like the doctor's personal test or anything, is there something about ADHD that makes you like old dead countries?

Wait, is this actually a thing? Is there anyone period anyone in this thread who doesn't enjoy reading about this topic?

Harrow
Jun 30, 2012

I can't imagine not enjoying reading about ancient civilizations. That stuff is awesome. I seek it out all the time.

Music Theory
Aug 7, 2013

Avatar by Garden Walker
Why is the ancient civilizations thing a thing

Maybe it's because everyone in this thread is also a goon???

Baby Babbeh
Aug 2, 2005

It's hard to soar with the eagles when you work with Turkeys!!



The sort of person who answers "No, ancient civilizations are boring" is the sort of person I don't want to hang out with.

Mechafunkzilla
Sep 11, 2006

If you want a vision of the future...

Music Theory posted:

Why is the ancient civilizations thing a thing

Maybe it's because everyone in this thread is also a goon???

"Highly restricted, fixated interests that are abnormal in intensity or focus" is a diagnostic criteria for ASD so the doctor was probably evaluating him for aspergers :toot:

Mechafunkzilla fucked around with this message at 21:29 on Oct 6, 2016

YggiDee
Sep 12, 2007

WASP CREW
It's me, I'm the outlier who isn't interested in Ancient Civilizations.

Catsplosion
Aug 19, 2007

I am become Dwarf, the destroyer of cats.
I like history and ancient civs but I dropped out of history in school and find it very hard to pay attention long enough for any of the information ive learned to stick.

fyallm
Feb 27, 2007



College Slice

YggiDee posted:

It's me, I'm the outlier who isn't interested in Ancient Civilizations.

Yeah I don't give a poo poo about that either.

i am tim!
Jan 5, 2005

God damn it, where are my ant keys?! I'm gonna miss my flight!

Mechafunkzilla posted:

"Highly restricted, fixated interests that are abnormal in intensity or focus" is a diagnostic criteria for ASD so the doctor was probably evaluating him for aspergers :toot:

Hah, I have a nephew with Asperger's and I'm told he's practically my clone with the way he acts. That said not one doctor mentioned ASD that I can remember, so if they were testing me for that then they didn't find anything worth mentioning.

That's fine by me, ADHD is more than enough.

Rabbit Hill
Mar 11, 2009

God knows what lives in me in place of me.
Grimey Drawer
Wanted to report something kinda neat...

Because both sides of my extended family live thousands of miles away from me in opposite directions, I've done a lot of long-haul air travel since I was a kid. Flying back from Europe was always the worst, since the flights average around 9 hours, and I couldn't stand being in the plane for that long. It genuinely was excruciatingly mentally painful, like I felt like I was continually on the verge of going crazy from the boredom (even though at home I could easily read, draw, and entertain myself quietly for long periods of time). Because of this, the last time I flew on a long flight since becoming an adult (no longer forced by their parents to visit the family) was 10 years ago -- I once even turned down a free vacation to Argentina because I knew I wouldn't be able to handle the long plane flight down there.

So, I was diagnosed with ADD about 1.5 years ago and have been on medication since then, too. Then, a year ago, I had the chance to go to Russia on a half-price ticket in September 2016, and I've always wanted to go there, so I accepted (I actually just got back from it on Sunday) -- but I had literally spent the entire year between getting the ticket and making the trip dreading how I was going to handle the flight back from Moscow, which was 3.5 hours to Germany and then 9 hours to the US.

Well, as it turns out, the excruciating torture of being cooped up on a plane must have been entirely due to untreated ADD, because making that flight now on medication was absolutely fine. I read a book, watched a movie, surfed the internet, dozed off a little....without one bit of tension or anxiety about how much longer the flight was going to last, because now I could actually focus on what I was doing and the time went by quickly. Amazing!

I feel like a literal whole world of travel is now open to me, now that I know I can handle long flights with ease thanks to my ADD meds. So, thanks, Vyvanse! :thumbsup:

Xibanya
Sep 17, 2012




Clever Betty
'Sup thread, it's been awhile.

20mg adderall twice a day wasn't effective anymore so I've decided to try to go two weeks without and give it another shot before calling my doc to adjust dosage. This is made harder by the fact that I also have sworn off caffeine as of six weeks ago for similar reasons. I've made it since Saturday. Focusing on work is hard but other than that I'm fine. That's my adderall story, thanks for listening.

oh yeah, when is Strattera going generic? That poo poo actually worked for me but was way too pricey. Last I took it was over three years ago so I'm not hip to the latest ADD drug happenings.

Like Clockwork
Feb 17, 2012

It's only the Final Battle once all the players are ready.

i am tim! posted:

One thing that stuck out to me from my second diagnosis was a question I was asked during the doctor's test, "Do you like to read or learn about Ancient Civilizations?" I'm paraphrasing this because it's been ten years, and while my answer was "Absolutely!" I always wondered why I was asked the question. It didn't seem like the doctor's personal test or anything, is there something about ADHD that makes you like old dead countries?

That is such a weird question to ask in an assessment like that. :psyduck:

Anyway, anyone have advice for getting the feds to take my ADHD rear end seriously when I apply for disability? I wouldn't have tried it after getting denied a few years ago, but I still haven't been able to get any job, I'm getting booted off my parents' insurance next month and I can't function without a very expensive four drug cocktail (lamotrigine/concerta/Prozac/antianxiety-I-can't-remember) and it's making my idiot brain panic. :saddowns:

Mechafunkzilla
Sep 11, 2006

If you want a vision of the future...

Like Clockwork posted:

That is such a weird question to ask in an assessment like that. :psyduck:

Anyway, anyone have advice for getting the feds to take my ADHD rear end seriously when I apply for disability? I wouldn't have tried it after getting denied a few years ago, but I still haven't been able to get any job, I'm getting booted off my parents' insurance next month and I can't function without a very expensive four drug cocktail (lamotrigine/concerta/Prozac/antianxiety-I-can't-remember) and it's making my idiot brain panic. :saddowns:

My advice is to find a good case worker. You need someone who has experience navigating the system, look for an agency near you that does benefits counseling.

Mechafunkzilla fucked around with this message at 02:28 on Oct 15, 2016

Harrow
Jun 30, 2012

I had my doctor appointment today.

On the one hand, being diagnosed with ADHD isn't really a great thing, but it's good to know, at least, that I wasn't horribly screwing up on my self-diagnosis. He prescribed me adderall and also referred me to a therapist for my (maybe related, maybe not) terrible anxiety issues. He left the door open on anxiety medication--I don't think I quite realized how high my level of anxiety was until I talked about it with a medical professional--but it definitely makes sense to see a therapist first. Overall it was really positive and I have a follow-up in a couple weeks to see how the medication is working and reevaluate.

Thanks for the advice so far, thread. I'll definitely be sticking around as I keep figuring this whole thing out.

buffybot
Nov 7, 2002

Like Clockwork posted:

That is such a weird question to ask in an assessment like that. :psyduck:

Anyway, anyone have advice for getting the feds to take my ADHD rear end seriously when I apply for disability? I wouldn't have tried it after getting denied a few years ago, but I still haven't been able to get any job, I'm getting booted off my parents' insurance next month and I can't function without a very expensive four drug cocktail (lamotrigine/concerta/Prozac/antianxiety-I-can't-remember) and it's making my idiot brain panic. :saddowns:

You might want to call up a few disability lawyers and talk to them. I believe the process is very complicated and that they don't like giving people benefits that have "just" mental conditions. Good luck and let us know how it goes.

Harrow
Jun 30, 2012

So I took my first Adderall (20 mg extended release) about an hour and a half ago.

Is it normal to feel loving amped? Because hoo boy. I can feel energy like it's coursing up my spine. It's not unpleasant, but it's definitely very strange. Maybe no coffee today. Or for a while.

Rupert Buttermilk
Apr 15, 2007

🚣RowboatMan: ❄️Freezing time🕰️ is an old P.I. 🥧trick...

Harrow posted:

So I took my first Adderall (20 mg extended release) about an hour and a half ago.

Is it normal to feel loving amped? Because hoo boy. I can feel energy like it's coursing up my spine. It's not unpleasant, but it's definitely very strange. Maybe no coffee today. Or for a while.

Don't do coffee, ride this out, take advantage of it, get poo poo done. Clean your house so your non-medicated version can enjoy it all later.

Harrow
Jun 30, 2012

Rupert Buttermilk posted:

Don't do coffee, ride this out, take advantage of it, get poo poo done. Clean your house so your non-medicated version can enjoy it all later.

It's a big deadline day at work so I will definitely take advantage of it. Hopefully it'll carry me though to clean my house when I get home because oh boy does it need it.

Jeez. I don't know if I've ever felt this awake, or this lucid.

Angry Diplomat
Nov 7, 2009

Winner of the TSR Memorial Award for Excellence In Grogging

Harrow posted:

So I took my first Adderall (20 mg extended release) about an hour and a half ago.

Is it normal to feel loving amped? Because hoo boy. I can feel energy like it's coursing up my spine. It's not unpleasant, but it's definitely very strange. Maybe no coffee today. Or for a while.

Things will level out over a couple of weeks as you grow accustomed to the meds; that amped feeling will eventually be more of a "fully waking up" moment where you can feel the brain fog lifting. I've been on a few different ADHD meds and Adderall definitely had the most noticeable "punch" when it kicked in, but that hyper-energized cokehead state does chill the gently caress out after the first little while.

Do not drink coffee with Adderall for the love of god. It's alright with some meds but with Adderall it'll turn you into a tense, irritable, teeth-grinding ogre and probably give you heart palpitations.

Angry Diplomat fucked around with this message at 14:44 on Oct 21, 2016

Rupert Buttermilk
Apr 15, 2007

🚣RowboatMan: ❄️Freezing time🕰️ is an old P.I. 🥧trick...

I'm on 10mg of dexadrine, and a coffee (or coke zero) here and there is alright. Whether I have some or not, though, the comedown at the end of the day sucks, because I really don't want to do anything at all. Using caffeine at that point might perk me up for a bit, but then THAT comedown is even quicker and harder, I've found.

Harrow
Jun 30, 2012

I will miss coffee--god do I love the taste--but giving it up is worth it if I can keep this going (well, a mild version as my body acclimates).

Maybe I'll start drinking rooibos or some other kind of non-caffeinated pseudo-tea.

Interestingly, "tense, irritable, teeth-grinding ogre" describes how I've been for the last couple of months before my diagnosis pretty well. I'll gladly leave that behind.



V That's fine. Friday night is probably an acceptable time to totally crash.

Chin Strap
Nov 24, 2002

I failed my TFLC Toxx, but I no longer need a double chin strap :buddy:
Pillbug

Harrow posted:

It's a big deadline day at work so I will definitely take advantage of it. Hopefully it'll carry me though to clean my house when I get home because oh boy does it need it.

Jeez. I don't know if I've ever felt this awake, or this lucid.

Just anticipate a crash afterwards. The first couple of weeks dialing in proper dosages you may get crash reactions afterwards where you just feel dead tired for an hour or 2. Be sure to tell your psych about it but sometimes it is just an adjustment thing.

Xibanya
Sep 17, 2012




Clever Betty
I got to the point where having two cups of coffee per day with 40mg adderall wasn't affecting me at all but I realized that was bad and quit caffeine about two months ago.

Two weeks no adderall ughhhh this would be better with coffee but I'm glad I was able to make it to this point. I'm gonna see how long I can hold out because I'd rather not go up from 40mg/day.

Dubstep Jesus
Jun 27, 2012

by exmarx
I like drinking caffeinated tea with my adderall because it gives me enough of a kick to get me going but it's a small enough amount that I don't really notice any negative effects.

Like Clockwork
Feb 17, 2012

It's only the Final Battle once all the players are ready.

Thanks for the advice, guys. :shobon: I really was totally lost, so knowing the right direction to go helps a lot.

I sometimes forget that caffeine mixes poorly with Concerta and drink giant mugs of strong tea shortly before or after taking it. :v: I usually end up a neurotic mile-a-minute mess when that happens until I realize what I did and can compensate for the mistake a bit.

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Astrofig
Oct 26, 2009
.....so it's bad to wash Vyvanse down with coffee, is what you're saying. Oops.

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