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Arsenic Lupin posted:It's worth knowing that that YouTube video was funded by the rail interests in Australia in lieu of making road/rail crossings safer. I forget the cost tradeoff between making the video and putting in modern crossing equipment, but it was substantial. Bullshit. Prove it. Link your sources if you're going to make such outrageous claims.
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nigga crab pollock posted:red light cameras are an oppressive enforcer though. they are pretty deeply flawed. without changing the system there's no way to prove that the person driving the car was the person issued the license for the car In NZ, cameras just ticket the vehicle, ie the owner. No demerit points are awarded since they can't prove (or rather don't care) who was driving, it's your car and the fine is applied to it unless you can show it was stolen.
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Oct 7, 2016 14:15
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A living, breathing human should have to catch me breaking the law, drat it. It's not sporting otherwise.
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Oct 7, 2016 14:25
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What about robot cops? I'm thinking a buggy software ED-209 chassis mounted on a car body. (it will function perfectly until dirt on the camera triggers the auto defence mode and it assumes everything in sight is hostile)
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nigga crab pollock posted:red light cameras are an oppressive enforcer though. they are pretty deeply flawed. without changing the system there's no way to prove that the person driving the car was the person issued the license for the car, not only that but false positives are pretty common at least in my experience. like they might appear to be useful to stop dickheads but in reality those people just put 'anti-glare' covers on their license plates and run red lights anyways leaving you to get hosed because your car was sitting at the white line as they run it. Chicago is currently in the midst of the lawsuit regarding that issue (among other things) regarding red-light camera issued citations that could end up costing the city $200M in refunds. I know in the 'burbs, most villages and towns have removed their cameras. In some cases it's because the red-light camera contract was costing more than it generated in revenue, and in others it was because they illegally shortened the yellow light duration in an effort to increase the infraction rate.
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MrYenko posted:The problem is that 90% of the roundabouts I've driven through in the US are seemingly designed to look pretty, and not to be effective as a traffic flow device. There are a LOT of US traffic designers that just don't "get" roundabouts. There's a suburb nearby (Dublin, Ohio) that really loving hates commuters and keeps doing things to discourage through traffic. In the past they've broken up alternative through streets, but lately they've been replacing intersections with roundabouts, too. Mysteriously, the roundabouts in the core of the suburb work just fine while those on the edges are complete pieces of poo poo and I hate them. It may be because they made suburban intersections into roundabouts, saw that they worked, and decided that radius worked for all conditions so they used the same plan on the country highway half a mile out. Then they slapped down a second roundabout right before that one. I like roundabouts when they're thoughtfully designed, but so often they're used as "traffic calming devices" ie "gently caress you drive somewhere else." And since this is America, driving is the only option so they're really just "gently caress you."
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Roundabouts with traffic lights are my favorite things gently caress you Washington DC
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Platystemon posted:Second picture is a bandaged hand; first picture is a mangled hand. That man's hand will permanently be giving the "shocker" sign. Also (strangely enough) your ring finger is the second most important for grip (thumb most important). I learned this when Jason Pierre Paul, who plays for the Giants, blew off his index finger in a fireworks accident. Apparently the index finger is the least important for grip strength.
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Whooping Crabs posted:That man's hand will permanently be giving the "shocker" sign. Also (strangely enough) your ring finger is the second most important for grip (thumb most important). I learned this when Jason Pierre Paul, who plays for the Giants, blew off his index finger in a fireworks accident. Apparently the index finger is the least important for grip strength. It could also be that grip strength is not a limiting factor for throwing a baseball.
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The Wiggly Wizard posted:It could also be that grip strength is not a limiting factor for throwing a baseball. It's the other Giants.
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Serephina posted:In NZ, cameras just ticket the vehicle, ie the owner. No demerit points are awarded since they can't prove (or rather don't care) who was driving, it's your car and the fine is applied to it unless you can show it was stolen. The Swedish cameras take a picture of the driver through the windshield and then I suppose the Transport Agency manually matches the photo and registration plate, respectively, against their licence and registration records before issuing the fine. I've met the guy who was in charge of developing those cameras - Anders Wiman, also notable for developing the OLA ambulance payload that Swedish emergency services have used since probably the eighties - and he admitted to having been fined by one of his own cameras. EDIT: That procedure doesn't make a lot of sense now that I think about it. More likely they don't match the face at all, and just let the owner of the OCRed registration plate appeal the fine if it's obviously not them (or not obviously them) in the photo upon inspection. my girlfriend is Legos fucked around with this message at 15:50 on Oct 7, 2016 |
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Fasdar posted:Roundabouts are amazing and are safer even when people use them incorrectly. When used well they are a marvel of cultural development. Fight me. Roundabouts are the worst thing ever. You have to make a full lap to read the signs and they make you lose your orientation when there's no sun. I've got a good sense of direction in general, but roundabouts make me lose my poo poo. If you live in the Twin Cities, see "Opus Circles of Death." They're not roundabouts, but you lose your orientation when you go through.
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:The Victorian state government are currently spending several billion dollars on removing the 50 worst level crossings in the state. I've gone past some of the crossing and they're MASSIVE projects, creating gigantic underpasses so traffic can move underneath the rail lines. I misremembered; it was the Melbourne Metro, not "railway interests". I cannot find the link that talked about the pressure the Metro was under in 2012 to upgrade level crossings. e: See here. Between 2002-2012, Melbourne had he most dangerous level crossings in Australia, and were under public pressure to eradicate all level crossings. The response was to blame the victims, quite literally, even though the article I cite says "Naomi Frauenfelder of TrackSAFE, a rail industry initiative that seeks to reduce train network deaths, said drivers ignoring warning signs at level crossings or distracted pedestrians failing to pay attention to oncoming trains were the cause of many deaths.". So yes, pedestrians, but also a rail feature that is going to kill people because of train/person collisions. Arsenic Lupin fucked around with this message at 16:08 on Oct 7, 2016 |
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Had an OSHA moment at work 2 days ago! Hurricane was coming, so the owner decided to have his usual hired handyman hook up the generator in case the office was kept open on Friday and they lost power. Said handyman is an alcoholic who's already missing most of one finger from a prior accident. He noticed a tire on the generator was flat, so he started filling it up. BANG He overfilled it. Both hands got cut up, and the one hand with the missing finger was broken. Not the wrist or some fingers. Pretty much his whole hand was broken.
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Serephina posted:In NZ, cameras just ticket the vehicle, ie the owner. No demerit points are awarded since they can't prove (or rather don't care) who was driving, it's your car and the fine is applied to it unless you can show it was stolen.
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More Dumb Ways to Die: https://safedesign.wordpress.com/2013/06/25/dumb-ways-to-die-why-it-wont-work/ "Dumb ways to die, and other motivational campaigns, are based on a belief that accidents are caused by faulty personal behavior and characteristics; naughty people. This leads to advertising in order to convince people to self-correct their naughty behavior. However accidents are actually due to random mistakes of normal people behaving normally in whatever system you have. Change the system, change the results." https://safedesign.wordpress.com/2013/10/04/dumb-ways-to-die-still-not-working/ quote:Like the $719 million dollars the TAC (Transport Accident Commissions) has spent on behavioral campaigns about road trauma, these campaigns can’t work because they are based on flawed theory.  Near misses at level crossings in Victoria, Australia by quarter (Transport Safety Victoria 2013) Don't fix the dangerous design feature, change the people.
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Fasdar posted:Roundabouts are amazing and are safer even when people use them incorrectly. When used well they are a marvel of cultural development. Fight me. Roundabouts are fine for small vehicles but they loving suck for 18 wheelers. If they are large enough for 18 wheelers (and I know of a few that are) there's still a problem of people ignoring the yield sign and jumping in front of big trucks because they can't stand waiting behind the slow truck taking products to the stores.
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Arsenic Lupin posted:The response was to blame the victims, quite literally Here's a warning device they could install: one or more pairs of steel rails, embedded in the road surface, to indicate where trains might cross.
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mostlygray posted:You have to make a full lap to read the signs and they make you lose your orientation when there's no sun. I don't think you're doing it right. At all.
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GotLag posted:Sounds fair to me. Trains are blameless, holy creatures.
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mostlygray posted:Roundabouts are the worst thing ever. You have to make a full lap to read the signs and they make you lose your orientation when there's no sun. I've got a good sense of direction in general, but roundabouts make me lose my poo poo. You should really re-examine the part of your statement I've bolded. Introspection is good, and what you discover about yourself might just surprise you!
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Blacknose posted:I don't think you're doing it right. At all. I think it's more that the implementation of roundabouts in Minnesota is lovely. Poor signage, etc. There are a bunch of roundabouts under Hwy 169 where the main route on W 78th is very poorly labeled. The road jogs around a lot and the signs are all for roads that don't go where any human being would want to go. They're also used to slow traffic instead of being useful. I understand them when 7 roads meet, but these are 4 way interchanges. A stop sign works fine.
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Roundabouts at four way intersections are good, and as a Minnesota resident let me reiterate that you are just simply a bad driver.
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Arsenic Lupin posted:(Back to OSHA) You do not put warning signs on steel presses. You install lockout devices. If someone gets hit by a train, they were a loving idiot. I feel sorry for their family, but the moron clearly had it coming (it being a train, presumably).
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Oct 7, 2016 17:07
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Search Houston Tram Crashes on Youtube for endless light rail/ motor vehicle hilarity.
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Pistol_Pete posted:Search Houston Tram Crashes on Youtube for endless light rail/ motor vehicle hilarity. This is an entire Youtube genre. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CV2rdGX4JYc
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mostlygray posted:I think it's more that the implementation of roundabouts in Minnesota is lovely. Poor signage, etc. There are a bunch of roundabouts under Hwy 169 where the main route on W 78th is very poorly labeled. The road jogs around a lot and the signs are all for roads that don't go where any human being would want to go. They're also used to slow traffic instead of being useful. I understand them when 7 roads meet, but these are 4 way interchanges. A stop sign works fine. And yet you think you have a good sense of direction despite being unable to figure out what direction you're going after heading north into a roundabout and then making a left turn.
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Pistol_Pete posted:Search Houston Tram Crashes on Youtube for endless light rail/ motor vehicle hilarity. I remember my entire family groaning when we learned they were installing this towards the end of our time in Houston, it was such an obvious disaster
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I'm sorry Minnesota sucks at signage apparently
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Arsenic Lupin posted:(Back to OSHA) You do not put warning signs on steel presses. You install lockout devices. In Russia there are lockout devices on railroad crossings. They don't always work as intended. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLjYMHRnOSM&t=20s
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Well, he didn't get hit by the train, at least.
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Pistol_Pete posted:Search Houston Tram Crashes on Youtube for endless light rail/ motor vehicle hilarity. I think we had 1,000 collisions in two years. 
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Zopotantor posted:In Russia there are lockout devices on railroad crossings. They don't always work as intended. 
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"To Be Continued" doesn't pop up after he has landed and slid on the ground out of frame, 1/10
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PhotoKirk posted:I think we had 1,000 collisions in two years. They always run into the trains with such joyful abandon: "I am the only person who counts on THIS road, bitches!" *CRUNCH*
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Oct 7, 2016 18:36
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Man, all this roundabout talk is booooring as poo poo.
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Mithaldu posted:Man, all this roundabout talk is booooring as poo poo. It's a load-bearing spine.
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Mithaldu posted:Man, all this roundabout talk is booooring as poo poo. okay but make sure you pay attention still, cuz that attitude is how accidents happen in the workplace.
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Volcott posted:It's a load-bearing spine. Concrete (depending on quality) tends to bend slightly rather than break/crack, so impact with the spine will leave it with little to no damage. No worries.
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Obligatory magic roundabout picture... Used to live near this beauty and after the terror of the first time, it's actually pretty easy to understand/use. I won't try to explain how it works though.
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