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WeAreTheRomans
Feb 23, 2010

by R. Guyovich
USPOL Nov: Restless & Skraten' Up

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WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

FlamingLiberal posted:

and this doesn't even account for the fact that a lot of potential Trump voters are not registered, which is why you would then need a significant ground game to make up for it

No, it's fine! He tells them to register at the rallies, and he also tells them to register their friends too!

GOTV is easy, so simple, bing bong bing!

WeAreTheRomans
Feb 23, 2010

by R. Guyovich
49,000 Hispanics, who like to be called Latinos? Who knew folks, right?

:smugdon:

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


Flip Yr Wig posted:

So this is the second time someone has leaked Trump's terrible debate prep. Last time around, a lot people were saying it was just a ploy to manage people's expectations and give Trump a low bar to clear. Do people still think that's what's going on? I mean, that Politico story doesn't is too detailed to be word of mouth from some defector; it looks like an intentional leak from the campaign. But that didn't exactly work last time, did it?

I didn't think anyone in his organization was competent enough to pull something like that the first time so I have no reason to believe that THIS is different.

G-III
Mar 4, 2001

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

http://www.mediaite.com/online/hollywoods-first-black-superhero-more-of-a-super-thug/

Article from a member of Trump's African American outreach committee.
First black superhero my rear end

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrOEL_rV8N4

G-III fucked around with this message at 16:48 on Oct 7, 2016

Sulphagnist
Oct 10, 2006

WARNING! INTRUDERS DETECTED

Flip Yr Wig posted:

So this is the second time someone has leaked Trump's terrible debate prep. Last time around, a lot people were saying it was just a ploy to manage people's expectations and give Trump a low bar to clear. Do people still think that's what's going on? I mean, that Politico story doesn't is too detailed to be word of mouth from some defector; it looks like an intentional leak from the campaign. But that didn't exactly work last time, did it?

I think we're at the rats fleeing the sinking ship phase where the advisors are leaking all of this to make it clear it's the candidate and not the advisors, so they can find new jobs after November.

Trabisnikof
Dec 24, 2005


So what you're saying is Obama is registering illegals to vote and that's how Clinton will steal the election?

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

spero che tu stia bene

Phone posted:

But what about all of the unpaid staffel that Trump has?

a) I threw in a minor correction to your post.
b) They're not doing a good job, as Trump is down, badly, in most of the polls - all of the polls - so naturally he isn't paying them.

488k reg forms submitted :eyepop:

Twenty Sixteen History Made, Heil Hillary

Sensible Thursday
Jul 28, 2007
I wish these voter registration numbers came with 2012 stats to compare against, kind of hard to tell how much of this is Cheeto Benito fail and how much is just the usual Democrat ground game edge.

EDIT: Also drat, that is 1/40 of the population of Florida. They grew the registered voter pool by 4 percent.

Sensible Thursday fucked around with this message at 16:55 on Oct 7, 2016

comingafteryouall
Aug 2, 2011


This op-ed from the NYT brought up some thoughts about how massive Trumps $900 million losses are. A stadium proposal in Las Vegas includes the largest public subsidy of an NFL stadium ever at $750 million of $1.9 billion, with the rest coming from private sources. If you adjust Trump's losses for inflation, he nearly lost an entire NFL stadium worth of money in one year.

Is an NFL stadium actually worth anything near that level of investment from the private parties involved, or Las Vegas itself? Seems to be we just get incredibly stupid when it comes to finding funding for sports. I'd be OK if the proposal was framed as a community investment for a fun recreational activity, but instead it's always framed as an economic investment. Which makes it take precedence over education, when it's actually less important to the economic development of the community than proper education is.

Academician Nomad
Jan 29, 2016
Can you imagine how awful it would be if the election ever ended? Like, what a mistake it would be if a day came when people actually voted. Happily this election will continue forever, and our entertainment with it.

chamois
Oct 24, 2010

"I wonder if hooded crusader Luke Cage will serve and protect blacks in Harlem harmed by other blacks?"

The answer is, of course, "yes, exclusively."

PhazonLink
Jul 17, 2010
Listening to radio stuff about the Peace prize.

In an alt. universe/timeline. Prez Donnie is threatening to nuke Sweden if they dont give him the prize because he didn't nuke the Middle East on day 1.

Combed Thunderclap
Jan 4, 2011



Academician Nomad posted:

Can you imagine how awful it would be if the election ever ended? Like, what a mistake it would be if a day came when people actually voted. Happily this election will continue forever, and our entertainment with it.

The First Amendment would never allow it but I'm starting to support banning campaigning for office for further than a year out from the election date.

Or literally any policy that would somehow put the election genie back in the bottle.

FuturePastNow
May 19, 2014


Augus posted:


Chillary Clinton has a unique opportunity to steal this demographic now, she needs to show America that she's a real gamer girl.



comingafteryouall posted:

Is an NFL stadium actually worth anything near that level of investment from the private parties involved, or Las Vegas itself? Seems to be we just get incredibly stupid when it comes to finding funding for sports.

It's less likely to go bankrupt than a Trump casino

FuturePastNow fucked around with this message at 17:05 on Oct 7, 2016

Jutsuka
Jun 5, 2011

PhazonLink posted:

Listening to radio stuff about the Peace prize.

In an alt. universe/timeline. Prez Donnie is threatening to nuke Sweden if they dont give him the prize because he didn't nuke the Middle East on day 1.

Due to a quirk of history the Nobel Peace Prize is in fact awarded by the Norwegian Nobel Commitee.

Islam is the Lite Rock FM
Jul 27, 2007

by exmarx

I heard Hillary completed the Ratatta challenge.

Night10194
Feb 13, 2012

We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

Jutsuka posted:

Due to a quirk of history the Nobel Peace Prize is in fact awarded by the Norwegian Nobel Commitee.

He'd still threaten Sweden, though. It would be the ultimate Donald move.

DaveWoo
Aug 14, 2004

Fun Shoe
Josh Marshall has a good post about the normalization of anti-Semitism among the right. Key quote:

quote:

It's not GOP elites or the great mass of Republicans who are driving this change, the normalization of anti-Semitism in US political discourse. But the great mass of them (with some very honorable exceptions) are standing by and standing with the man and the movement that is doing these things.

I doubt very much that there are many Jews who don't feel the change from 2015 to 2016 and very few who don't know where the change is coming from. I doubt Paul Ryan has an anti-Semitic bone in his body. But he's going to campaign with Trump on Saturday, the day before the second presidential debate. That's all I need to know.

Tender Bender
Sep 17, 2004

comingafteryouall posted:

This op-ed from the NYT brought up some thoughts about how massive Trumps $900 million losses are. A stadium proposal in Las Vegas includes the largest public subsidy of an NFL stadium ever at $750 million of $1.9 billion, with the rest coming from private sources. If you adjust Trump's losses for inflation, he nearly lost an entire NFL stadium worth of money in one year.

Is an NFL stadium actually worth anything near that level of investment from the private parties involved, or Las Vegas itself? Seems to be we just get incredibly stupid when it comes to finding funding for sports. I'd be OK if the proposal was framed as a community investment for a fun recreational activity, but instead it's always framed as an economic investment. Which makes it take precedence over education, when it's actually less important to the economic development of the community than proper education is.

Stadiums are a massive massive waste of taxpayer money, cities are always fleeced into paying for it under the justification of paying up front for future economic development that never materializes. It's basically just funneling public money into the pockets of team owners.

lozzle
Oct 22, 2012

by zen death robot

quote:

I doubt Paul Ryan has an anti-Semitic bone in his body.

This person has far too much faith in Paul Ryan.

greatn
Nov 15, 2006

by Lowtax
I feel like our minor league baseball stadium has done a ton to revitalize our downtown.

greatn
Nov 15, 2006

by Lowtax
I doubt Paul Ryan has a bone in his body.

Goatman Sacks
Apr 4, 2011

by FactsAreUseless

Weird, Breitbart News Daily on Sirius/XM was telling me that since there are far more absentee ballot requests this year in Florida, Hillary is already screwed.

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

greatn posted:

I feel like our minor league baseball stadium has done a ton to revitalize our downtown.

Sure, but I doubt it cost your city hundreds of millions of dollars to build. Football stadium prices are insane.

Night10194
Feb 13, 2012

We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

lozzle posted:

This person has far too much faith in Paul Ryan.

He's already missing his spine, why would you think he has other bones?

theflyingorc
Jun 28, 2008

ANY GOOD OPINIONS THIS POSTER CLAIMS TO HAVE ARE JUST PROOF THAT BULLYING WORKS
Young Orc

Tender Bender posted:

Stadiums are a massive massive waste of taxpayer money, cities are always fleeced into paying for it under the justification of paying up front for future economic development that never materializes. It's basically just funneling public money into the pockets of team owners.

People want sports stadiums a lot, though

Mel Mudkiper
Jan 19, 2012

At this point, Mudman abruptly ends the conversation. He usually insists on the last word.

theflyingorc posted:

People want sports stadiums a lot, though

Look at what has happened to st louis.

They are still paying for a stadium that doesn't have a team

sexy fucking muskrat
Aug 22, 2010

by exmarx

greatn posted:

I doubt Paul Ryan has a bone in his body.

Actually, his body is supported by a system of fluid-filled bladders

OddObserver
Apr 3, 2009

theflyingorc posted:

People want sports stadiums a lot, though

Or rather sports teams, making the "pay for our stadium or we move" blackmail play rather effective.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

theflyingorc posted:

People want sports stadiums a lot, though

greatn
Nov 15, 2006

by Lowtax
Dennis Kucinich had a line at a debate in 08 in Cleveland that just loving slayed the crowd, he said something like "If we're gonna spend billions of dollars on a stadium to keep the team from relocating, why don't we just buy the team?"

comingafteryouall
Aug 2, 2011


Mel Mudkiper posted:

Look at what has happened to st louis.

They are still paying for a stadium that doesn't have a team

As a person who has never really lived near an NFL stadium, do they ever get used for things other than football games? I could maybe see a multi-use stadium that was booked up throughout the year being worth it.

Push El Burrito
May 9, 2006

Soiled Meat

greatn posted:

Dennis Kucinich had a line at a debate in 08 in Cleveland that just loving slayed the crowd, he said something like "If we're gonna spend billions of dollars on a stadium to keep the team from relocating, why don't we just buy the team?"

He's right. Go Packers.

Islam is the Lite Rock FM
Jul 27, 2007

by exmarx

Mel Mudkiper posted:

Look at what has happened to st louis.

They are still paying for a stadium that doesn't have a team

St Louis does not deserve nice things.

comingafteryouall
Aug 2, 2011


greatn posted:

Dennis Kucinich had a line at a debate in 08 in Cleveland that just loving slayed the crowd, he said something like "If we're gonna spend billions of dollars on a stadium to keep the team from relocating, why don't we just buy the team?"

Only problem is, if given a choice, voters would choose to divert money to the sport team from areas like education or infrastructure.

Raccooon
Dec 5, 2009

chamois posted:

"I wonder if hooded crusader Luke Cage will serve and protect blacks in Harlem harmed by other blacks?"

The answer is, of course, "yes, exclusively."

I have only gotten a few episodes into Luke Cage, but I take it that the writer of that article has watched none of it.

The bad guys are a black gangster and a corrupt local black politician.

Luke Cage is also portrayed somewhat conservative with another character jokingly calling him Fox News when he goes off on criminals.

a foolish pianist
May 6, 2007

(bi)cyclic mutation


Alas Michigan.

Also, going from Joe Louis Arena to Little Caesars Arena was insane branding.

canepazzo
May 29, 2006



Quinnipiac poll out, national, 45-40 Clinton (50-44 h2h), was 44-43 (47-46 h2h) in September.

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Barudak
May 7, 2007

comingafteryouall posted:

As a person who has never really lived near an NFL stadium, do they ever get used for things other than football games? I could maybe see a multi-use stadium that was booked up throughout the year being worth it.

Typically the get repuroposed where possible but to be frank their so big and few are proper domes that many simply lay dormant outside of 8 weekends a year especially in the winter. If soccer drew bigger crowds across the us it'd be less of an issue since they could be made dual use without the same issues that dual use baseball/football stadiums faced.

Now basketball/hockey stadiums those can work for other smaller venues.

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