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TheRationalRedditor
Jul 17, 2000

WHO ABUSED HIM. WHO ABUSED THE BOY.

Network42 posted:

This is a super weird problem, and I'm trying to see if anyone's run into it before.

Twice now I've been playing a comp game, and when the game loads I'll have a character model standing there (who I assume was the default pick) but no menu. The menu screen never loads, and I can't pick anyone. Pressing esc, h, etc doesn't do anything.

That means if it's a comp game, which it was both times, I'm hosed.

Anyone had this happen, or know what the problem is?
I've had this problem before, and I finally discovered this week that it's Alt+Z accidentally getting hit during an Alt+Tab. Alt+Z is the holdover shortcut from WoW to Hide UI, I'm not sure why they felt the need to include it in their FPS, but there you go.

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flashman
Dec 16, 2003

Despite what you might say about division of labour it's irrelevant when it's not manpower but funds that are being diverted into teams for work that will be the limiting factor. If you're paying people to work on skins to sell in gouge loot crates then you are paying fewer people to work on increasing the pitiful map selection. At this pace the game will be a good value buy around two years in. Now that they've made so much money on crates that's where the focus will be unfortunately.

Duck and Cover
Apr 6, 2007

flashman posted:

Despite what you might say about division of labour it's irrelevant when it's not manpower but funds that are being diverted into teams for work that will be the limiting factor. If you're paying people to work on skins to sell in gouge loot crates then you are paying fewer people to work on increasing the pitiful map selection.

Good point.

boar guy
Jan 25, 2007

blizzard has almost 5 thousand employees, y'all are real dumb

Andrast
Apr 21, 2010


I don't care what Blizzard uses their employees for, I just want the holiday events to not be lovely and allow me to get the skins with gold.

flashman
Dec 16, 2003

That isn't going to happen because they are obligated to their shareholders to recoup on the expenditure of creating the assets.

im gay
Jul 20, 2013

by Lowtax
Can't wait for the Blizzard Skin Auction House to replace the current system.

Kai Tave
Jul 2, 2012
Fallen Rib

It isn't because I'm pretty sure they have the funds to do both.

Snazzy Frocks
Mar 31, 2003

Scratchmo
i wonder when we get mounts

Manatee Cannon
Aug 26, 2010



I don't get why people get so mad about not being able to buy those skins

flashman
Dec 16, 2003

Kai Tave posted:

It isn't because I'm pretty sure they have the funds to do both.

They have lots of money but you don't have much experience with wealthy companies if you think they spend it freely.

Andrast
Apr 21, 2010


flashman posted:

That isn't going to happen because they are obligated to their shareholders to recoup on the expenditure of creating the assets.

I'm pretty sure idiots are going to spend tons of money on loot boxes even if they are able to get stuff with gold.

Still, it's not a deal-breaker or anything, just something minor that annoys me. I just don't like lovely f2p systems in my full price titles (and why some people are so adamantly defending the lovely f2p systems I don't understand at all).

Andrast fucked around with this message at 19:31 on Oct 7, 2016

boar guy
Jan 25, 2007

flashman posted:

They have lots of money but you don't have much experience with wealthy companies if you think they spend it freely.

they spend their money like loving water, homes...when D3 came out they rented California Adventure for the night for a private party for the team and everyone who worked on the game got a bottle of Cristal

their offices are filled with stupidly expensive and ridiculous sculptures and artwork

you get a sword of truth after you work there for 5 years

you're not getting more maps because that's how they want it, not because they won't spend money on it

Snazzy Frocks
Mar 31, 2003

Scratchmo
cs players play forever on like 5 maps or something so be glad we have our 16

RCarr
Dec 24, 2007

Snazzy Frocks posted:

cs players play forever on like 5 maps or something so be glad we have our 16

Aren't there like 5 maps in this game?

Edit: Jesus there are 16. It certainly doesn't feel like it.

Manatee Cannon
Aug 26, 2010



nah there are 16

3 koth
3 payload
3 assault (2cp)
4 hybrid

Scrub-Niggurath
Nov 27, 2007

Thor-Stryker posted:

It's been pretty much accepted that Valve is now a lovely game developer post-release Orange Box.

Hell HL2 didn't even feel like a proper sequel since they couldn't be bothered to bring back half the monsters from Xen.

this is pretty much the most Games post I've everseen

Ruggington
Apr 21, 2012

Scrub-Niggurath posted:

this is pretty much the most Games post I've everseen

it's really phenomenal

im gay
Jul 20, 2013

by Lowtax

Manatee Cannon posted:

nah there are 16

3 koth
3 payload
3 assault (2cp)
4 hybrid

what is a hybrid?

Manatee Cannon
Aug 26, 2010



im gay posted:

what is a hybrid?

maps where you have to take a point first to unlock the payload

numbani, king's row, hollywood, and eichenwalde are the hybrid maps

RCarr
Dec 24, 2007

im gay posted:

what is a hybrid?

Cross between payload and assault. You have to capture a point, then the payload comes out and you escort it to the final point.

Kerrzhe
Nov 5, 2008

Manatee Cannon posted:

nah there are 16

3 koth
3 payload
3 assault (2cp)
4 hybrid

that's.... thats 13.

Manatee Cannon
Aug 26, 2010



whoops I was just looking at what snazzy said and didn't even bother counting it lol

Network42
Oct 23, 2002

TheRationalRedditor posted:

I've had this problem before, and I finally discovered this week that it's Alt+Z accidentally getting hit during an Alt+Tab. Alt+Z is the holdover shortcut from WoW to Hide UI, I'm not sure why they felt the need to include it in their FPS, but there you go.

What in the gently caress.

Rick
Feb 23, 2004
When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.
I think I'm so much better at the brawl than the actual game because the extra caution to preserve the life of a character I want to use is probably what I actually need to incorporate in my actual game.

Kehveli
Apr 1, 2009

Push It Like You Push Your Girlfriend

Rick posted:

I think I'm so much better at the brawl than the actual game because the extra caution to preserve the life of a character I want to use is probably what I actually need to incorporate in my actual game.

Most team shooters are actually games about not dying more than they are games about killing.

Away all Goats
Jul 5, 2005

Goose's rebellion

Rick posted:

I think I'm so much better at the brawl than the actual game because the extra caution to preserve the life of a character I want to use is probably what I actually need to incorporate in my actual game.

Congratulations, you are now better than half the players I meet in solo queue

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

spero che tu stia bene

flashman posted:

Despite what you might say about division of labour it's irrelevant when it's not manpower but funds that are being diverted into teams for work that will be the limiting factor. If you're paying people to work on skins to sell in gouge loot crates then you are paying fewer people to work on increasing the pitiful map selection. At this pace the game will be a good value buy around two years in. Now that they've made so much money on crates that's where the focus will be unfortunately.

wow still runs on a subscription and shitloads of people still play that poo poo, Blizzard brings in so much drat money their games can spend most of a decade in development because their existing titles are stupidly successful. There's no way they are looking at an either-or proposition when it comes to funds allocation.

This line of complaint always comes off like people who have issues with the concept of DLC (as opposed to specific applications) because their purchase apparently entitles them to all future related content developed for the original game. Market it as an expansion though? No such qualms.

Wrestlepig
Feb 25, 2011

my mum says im cool

Toilet Rascal

Network42 posted:

This is a super weird problem, and I'm trying to see if anyone's run into it before.

Twice now I've been playing a comp game, and when the game loads I'll have a character model standing there (who I assume was the default pick) but no menu. The menu screen never loads, and I can't pick anyone. Pressing esc, h, etc doesn't do anything.

That means if it's a comp game, which it was both times, I'm hosed.

Anyone had this happen, or know what the problem is?

I've been having that problem a few times. Sometimes it fixes itself, and alt-tabbing in and out might have helped once? It could be a hardware issue, try turning your graphics down.

RugClockVexx
Aug 15, 2008

TheRationalRedditor posted:

I've had this problem before, and I finally discovered this week that it's Alt+Z accidentally getting hit during an Alt+Tab. Alt+Z is the holdover shortcut from WoW to Hide UI, I'm not sure why they felt the need to include it in their FPS, but there you go.

Chiming in to say my friend and I both experienced this as well. Ive been recording matches with nvidias overlay thing and its activated by hitting alt+z, im thinking the two may be interfering.

Snazzy Frocks
Mar 31, 2003

Scratchmo

Kerrrrrrr posted:

that's.... thats 13.

each koth has three maps ya dummies

which i guess means theres 19 maps now that im doing the math correctly this time

But Not Tonight
May 22, 2006

I could show you around the sights.

rumble in the bunghole posted:

I've been having that problem a few times. Sometimes it fixes itself, and alt-tabbing in and out might have helped once? It could be a hardware issue, try turning your graphics down.

Pretty sure this is just the UI being hidden. Press Alt+z to un-hide it.

Duck and Cover
Apr 6, 2007

Kai Tave posted:

It isn't because I'm pretty sure they have the funds to do both.

They do, but that doesn't mean they'll use them.

Kai Tave
Jul 2, 2012
Fallen Rib

Duck and Cover posted:

They do, but that doesn't mean they'll use them.

Right, which means that nothing that has to do with cosmetic items and lootbox events has anything to do with the rate at which they produce actual game-related content.

Wrestlepig
Feb 25, 2011

my mum says im cool

Toilet Rascal

But Not Tonight posted:

Pretty sure this is just the UI being hidden. Press Alt+z to un-hide it.

I checked and it wasn't that, since I've hosed that up before. I get display elements and stuff not loading in quickly, like not showing the gun or playing sounds, stuff like that.

Defiant Sally
May 6, 2004


Focus your Orochi.
Has anyone had Overwatch stop detecting their mic? It was working one day and then not working the next. No settings have been changed. My name appears in the top corner but friends cant hear my voice.

grieving for Gandalf
Apr 22, 2008

I just started a smurf account on PSN called "born_torbjorn"

EMC
Aug 17, 2004

Where the gently caress are the skins at lads?

Cactrot
Jan 11, 2001

Go Go Cactus Galactus





Kashuno posted:

Never play QP ever. If you want to learn a new hero do it on the fly in comp

I learned how to hanzo good in my placement matches, it worked out super good for all involved.

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FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

spero che tu stia bene

Defiant Sally posted:

Has anyone had Overwatch stop detecting their mic? It was working one day and then not working the next. No settings have been changed. My name appears in the top corner but friends cant hear my voice.

no they just weren't aware of the reaper you called out repeatedly, happens to everyone.

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