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wallaka
Jun 8, 2010

Least it wasn't a fucking red shell

BraveUlysses posted:

so is the 21 gal upright compressor from HF a piece of poo poo? good enough for occasional use? i have a shed just outside of my garage where i can run it and not have to listen to it

Yeah, they're ok.

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GnarlyCharlie4u
Sep 23, 2007

I have an unhealthy obsession with motorcycles.

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BraveUlysses posted:

so is the 21 gal upright compressor from HF a piece of poo poo? good enough for occasional use? i have a shed just outside of my garage where i can run it and not have to listen to it

The tank is fine. The motors are pretty lovely.

bolind
Jun 19, 2005



Pillbug
If I want an 18V Makita screwdriver, what do I go for? I have trouble discerning between small-caliber impacts and actual screwdrivers.

I see some that are fixed with a 1/4" hex "receiver" that have a very nice short total length. I'm thinking to get one of those as I do more screwing that I do drilling, so something with a, say, 1-13mm chuck would maybe be second priority.

In addition to that. I'm going for the DTW281 1/2" impact for sure, unless someone stops me. (Maybe it's called something else elsewhere.) I'm thinking that 280Nm and small size is a good compromise?

TACTICAL SANDALS
Nov 7, 2009

click clack POW, officer down

bolind posted:

If I want an 18V Makita screwdriver, what do I go for? I have trouble discerning between small-caliber impacts and actual screwdrivers.

I see some that are fixed with a 1/4" hex "receiver" that have a very nice short total length. I'm thinking to get one of those as I do more screwing that I do drilling, so something with a, say, 1-13mm chuck would maybe be second priority.

In addition to that. I'm going for the DTW281 1/2" impact for sure, unless someone stops me. (Maybe it's called something else elsewhere.) I'm thinking that 280Nm and small size is a good compromise?

I have that 1/2" impact wrench, it's loving awesome. Someone posted here recently that they're coming out with a new version of the 18v impact driver and drill, so maybe try to score some of those or see if there's a closeout deal on the older versions? The impact driver is amazing for driving screws, you can certainly do that with the drill too but it's way less efficient. Get the impact driver first, brushless if you can but I have an older non brushless one and I've beat on it pretty hard and it's still rocking. You can always get a bare drill super cheap on Amazon warehouse deals or something, I think I paid like 35 bucks for mine. If you're looking at getting multiple tools look around and see if there are any deals that get you some free batteries, there was one a while back where you bought any 3 tools and got a charger, 2 batts and a bag free.

Mcqueen
Feb 26, 2007

'HEY MOM, I'M DONE WITH MY SEGMENT!'


Soiled Meat
https://www.amazon.com/Makita-763198-1-Keyless-Chuck/dp/B000O3I5GY

This works in a pinch.

I would get an impact first. Then do like the other guy said and get a cheap drill. I don't see any reason for a fancy cordless drill unless you are getting a good deal on a two piece kit. Makita might still have their promo going where if you buy 3 cordless bare tools they give you a bat and charger. Then you could have your drill imp and trim saw all at once.

TACTICAL SANDALS
Nov 7, 2009

click clack POW, officer down
Got my fancy new ratchet! And ~~~German workgloves~~~ and they kicked me a free driver bit too, aww



This thing is fuckin niiiiiice. Great weight and feel to it, can't wait to use it. KC Tools was nice to deal with too.

Chillbro Baggins
Oct 8, 2004
Bad Angus! Bad!
Fun fact I just discovered: If you need to change the oil in a Ford Modular V8 and can't find a 16mm socket for the drain plug, 5/8" works too, and not in the "it'll do" way -- 5/8" is 15.875mm. Given manufacturing tolerances, that's a better 16mm than the one marked 16mm.

Raluek
Nov 3, 2006

WUT.

Delivery McGee posted:

Fun fact I just discovered: If you need to change the oil in a Ford Modular V8 and can't find a 16mm socket for the drain plug, 5/8" works too, and not in the "it'll do" way -- 5/8" is 15.875mm. Given manufacturing tolerances, that's a better 16mm than the one marked 16mm.

That's why most sets don't even include a 16mm, they just assume you'll use the 5/8.

Also why I use a 14mm wrench on everything, it fits just a little bit tighter than the 9/16 the bolts are supposed to be.

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

Moderator at http://www.ridgelineownersclub.com/forums/and soon to be mod of AI. MAKE AI GREAT AGAIN. Motronic for VP.
Agreed. I do the same thing, also 5/16 is a gnat's whisker from being 8mm. 8mm is 2.49 thousandths of an inch larger... so always use a 5/16 and try to use a 6 point when possible.

This sort of thing is quite often the root of all the "it was a metric bolt but it had an SAE head, wtf!" rumors you'll see on forums and facebook mechanic posts. Very very occasionally it's actually true, like the rover valvecover bolts that cursedshitbox told me about one time (I think?), but 99% of the time it's 14mm vs 9/16", 16mm vs 5/8", 19mm vs 3/4", 13mm vs 1/2", or 8mm vs 5/16" from what I have seen. Oh, and everyone thinks 22mm O2 sensor hexes are 7/8", including me until I realized it's almost always an M18x1.5 thread and a 22mm hex.

Raluek
Nov 3, 2006

WUT.

kastein posted:

Agreed. I do the same thing, also 5/16 is a gnat's whisker from being 8mm. 8mm is 2.49 thousandths of an inch larger... so always use a 5/16 and try to use a 6 point when possible.

This sort of thing is quite often the root of all the "it was a metric bolt but it had an SAE head, wtf!" rumors you'll see on forums and facebook mechanic posts. Very very occasionally it's actually true, like the rover valvecover bolts that cursedshitbox told me about one time (I think?), but 99% of the time it's 14mm vs 9/16", 16mm vs 5/8", 19mm vs 3/4", 13mm vs 1/2", or 8mm vs 5/16" from what I have seen. Oh, and everyone thinks 22mm O2 sensor hexes are 7/8", including me until I realized it's almost always an M18x1.5 thread and a 22mm hex.

I still maintain that I've got a nut for a 5/16" thread that fits only a 12mm wrench; 1/2" is way too loose for it. :colbert:

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

Moderator at http://www.ridgelineownersclub.com/forums/and soon to be mod of AI. MAKE AI GREAT AGAIN. Motronic for VP.

Raluek posted:

I still maintain that I've got a nut for a 5/16" thread that fits only a 12mm wrench; 1/2" is way too loose for it. :colbert:

Sure it isn't rusted down? That means no rules apply anymore :haw:

The other example I can think of offhand is 3/8-24 invert flare unions at autozone, they all have a 12mm outside hex. I assume it is because the manufacturer uses the same barstock for 3/8 and 10mm unions. Fine with me, means I will never need two of the same size flare wrench at the same time.

Raluek
Nov 3, 2006

WUT.

kastein posted:

Sure it isn't rusted down? That means no rules apply anymore :haw:

The other example I can think of offhand is 3/8-24 invert flare unions at autozone, they all have a 12mm outside hex. I assume it is because the manufacturer uses the same barstock for 3/8 and 10mm unions. Fine with me, means I will never need two of the same size flare wrench at the same time.

Yup. California, and it was like that right from the hardware store. Grabbed a half inch wrench to snug it down right after getting it from the store, and the wrench was almost slipping off the nut; it only just barely caught the tips of the corners. 12mm wrench fits like a wrench should.

Chillbro Baggins
Oct 8, 2004
Bad Angus! Bad!

Raluek posted:

Yup. California, and it was like that right from the hardware store. Grabbed a half inch wrench to snug it down right after getting it from the store, and the wrench was almost slipping off the nut; it only just barely caught the tips of the corners. 12mm wrench fits like a wrench should.

15/32"? :v:

Alternately, how new was 1/2" the wrench? Maybe it's the part that's off. Although 12mm is quite a bit smaller than 1/2" (12.7mm) -- maybe the bolt's on the small end and both wrenches are on the big end of the acceptable range; tolerances stack. The only real way to find out is to measure both -- know any machinists?

Catatron Prime
Aug 23, 2010

IT ME



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bolind posted:

If I want an 18V Makita screwdriver, what do I go for? I have trouble discerning between small-caliber impacts and actual screwdrivers.

I know you meant cordless drill, but if anyone is legit looking for an electric screwdriver for stuff like precision electronics work, this proxxon screwdriver and transformer are pretty sweet, and they have a bunch of different heads like grinders

PitViper
May 25, 2003

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Not a hand tool, but does anyone have a recommendation for a handheld diagnostic tool for bleeding ABS brake modules, specifically GM modules? I normally don't have issues with it, but I have an '07 Sierra that must have gotten air into the ABS unit during a caliper swap, and I'm going to end up dropping it off at the shop down the street to have them perform the ABS unit cycle and flush just to get it out of my hair.

I'd like to keep it under $300 if possible. I see some of the smaller Autel units (MD802, Maxicheck Airbag/ABS?) seem like they'd do what I want while still being within budget. Much as I'd love one of the MaxiSys units, I don't take on enough diagnostics work anymore to have a need for it. And if I'm spending $1000+, I think I'd rather swing to Auto Enginuity and use something laptop based, and feel more confident in getting support.

clam ache
Sep 6, 2009

PitViper posted:

Not a hand tool, but does anyone have a recommendation for a handheld diagnostic tool for bleeding ABS brake modules, specifically GM modules? I normally don't have issues with it, but I have an '07 Sierra that must have gotten air into the ABS unit during a caliper swap, and I'm going to end up dropping it off at the shop down the street to have them perform the ABS unit cycle and flush just to get it out of my hair.

I'd like to keep it under $300 if possible. I see some of the smaller Autel units (MD802, Maxicheck Airbag/ABS?) seem like they'd do what I want while still being within budget. Much as I'd love one of the MaxiSys units, I don't take on enough diagnostics work anymore to have a need for it. And if I'm spending $1000+, I think I'd rather swing to Auto Enginuity and use something laptop based, and feel more confident in getting support.

Auto enginuity is a great option. As is the autel scanner. We have the OTC at my work an it is a couple grand of pure shite. We have returned ours three times for multiple failures. So much so it's gonna get returned and the autel purchased. But in your case spend the 250 for the basic enginuity set up and be good to go. Assuming you have a laptop for it. They really do offer a lot and having the laptop already out makes it easier to look up more on the repairs.

PitViper
May 25, 2003

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I think the base Auto Enginuity package won't do what I want. If it does, then I will 100% buy that over the Autel, and replace my old Innova scanner (or at least relegate it to backup duty). I've been considering AE for a while, because I've been running into tasks that would be easier with a diagnostic tool, and I like that adding each make for enhanced diagnostics is relatively cheap. Wish I could just buy and install now, but I'd have to wait for the dongle and cable to ship, and the car needs to be done tomorrow. Oh well!

clam ache
Sep 6, 2009

PitViper posted:

I think the base Auto Enginuity package won't do what I want. If it does, then I will 100% buy that over the Autel, and replace my old Innova scanner (or at least relegate it to backup duty). I've been considering AE for a while, because I've been running into tasks that would be easier with a diagnostic tool, and I like that adding each make for enhanced diagnostics is relatively cheap. Wish I could just buy and install now, but I'd have to wait for the dongle and cable to ship, and the car needs to be done tomorrow. Oh well!

The autel will do the abs bleed and is a very nice scan tool for the money. We borrowed one from another shop for a while and it was awesome. Just there scanner had not been updated since 14. But otherwise it's very adequate and does what you need. Most horror fright have them in stock.

Bogatyr
Jul 20, 2009
I have a Milwaukee 18v Fuel drill(no hammer). I have tried a couple times to get it to drive a 4 inch holesaw in sheet metal. Not even bearing down on it, it won't go for very long and the drill shuts down for a minute or so, dead trigger. All I am running now are the 2.0 batteries. Would the bigger batteries help? It's conceivable that a bigger battery pack could provide more current if the circuitry allowed it... The drill works fine otherwise.

0toShifty
Aug 21, 2005
0 to Stiffy?

PitViper posted:

Not a hand tool, but does anyone have a recommendation for a handheld diagnostic tool for bleeding ABS brake modules, specifically GM modules? I normally don't have issues with it, but I have an '07 Sierra that must have gotten air into the ABS unit during a caliper swap, and I'm going to end up dropping it off at the shop down the street to have them perform the ABS unit cycle and flush just to get it out of my hair.

I'd like to keep it under $300 if possible. I see some of the smaller Autel units (MD802, Maxicheck Airbag/ABS?) seem like they'd do what I want while still being within budget. Much as I'd love one of the MaxiSys units, I don't take on enough diagnostics work anymore to have a need for it. And if I'm spending $1000+, I think I'd rather swing to Auto Enginuity and use something laptop based, and feel more confident in getting support.

I once got around the ABS bleeding procedure after replacing a metal brake line by driving it around in a parking lot and slamming the brakes till the abs cycled a bunch of times. Then I did a normal bleeding procedure after and everything went back to normal. YMMV.

Mcqueen
Feb 26, 2007

'HEY MOM, I'M DONE WITH MY SEGMENT!'


Soiled Meat

Bogatyr posted:

I have a Milwaukee 18v Fuel drill(no hammer). I have tried a couple times to get it to drive a 4 inch holesaw in sheet metal. Not even bearing down on it, it won't go for very long and the drill shuts down for a minute or so, dead trigger. All I am running now are the 2.0 batteries. Would the bigger batteries help? It's conceivable that a bigger battery pack could provide more current if the circuitry allowed it... The drill works fine otherwise.

No. New cordless tools have auto cut offs when they draw too much power. Doesn't matter what size batt you use as long as it's working correctly.

You'll need to go even lighter on it and use cutting oil or get a corded drill.

MRC48B
Apr 2, 2012

Bogatyr posted:

I have a Milwaukee 18v Fuel drill(no hammer). I have tried a couple times to get it to drive a 4 inch holesaw in sheet metal. Not even bearing down on it, it won't go for very long and the drill shuts down for a minute or so, dead trigger. All I am running now are the 2.0 batteries. Would the bigger batteries help? It's conceivable that a bigger battery pack could provide more current if the circuitry allowed it... The drill works fine otherwise.

Is your hole saw good for the sheet metal you are cutting, and has teeth that are actually sharp?

Bogatyr
Jul 20, 2009

MRC48B posted:

Is your hole saw good for the sheet metal you are cutting, and has teeth that are actually sharp?

Brand new Milwaukee holesaw, cuts fine in a corded drill.

Bogatyr
Jul 20, 2009

Mcqueen posted:

No. New cordless tools have auto cut offs when they draw too much power. Doesn't matter what size batt you use as long as it's working correctly.

You'll need to go even lighter on it and use cutting oil or get a corded drill.

Kinda what I figured, the 2.0 batteries fit my uses adequately, I didn't want to spend the money if it made no difference.

I been kinda itching to get the cordless jigsaw. holesaws that big are no fun corded drill or not.The last one I did with a corded sawzall(I was waiting for a new cord to come in for my magnum drill that day...) The blades I had were wide and stout so that was a chore.

Commodore_64
Feb 16, 2011

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Mcqueen posted:

No. New cordless tools have auto cut offs when they draw too much power. Doesn't matter what size batt you use as long as it's working correctly.

You'll need to go even lighter on it and use cutting oil or get a corded drill.

If they have 2 way communication, they would know what capacity battery is being used. The higher amp hour one should probably allow for more current, whether because 10*C on the larger cells is a higher number, or because there are more cells in parallel.

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At the very least, Ryobi's tools have current limiters in their li-ion packs. I don't see why the Milwaukee Fuel stuff would be any different; the cordless ryobi circular saw won't run off the 1.5 or 2.5ah packs, it needs a 4.0 or a 5.0, so it's conceivable that you're hitting the battery overcurrent limiter rather than the tool overload.

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

Moderator at http://www.ridgelineownersclub.com/forums/and soon to be mod of AI. MAKE AI GREAT AGAIN. Motronic for VP.
That's just how lithium batteries are built. If the holesaw grabs suddenly the current will spike high enough to either trip the battery's overcurrent protector (which is usually built using an mcu, a lithium battery management AFE, a kelvin-sense resistor, and a power MOSFET) or cause a cell voltage droop that will make the MCU think the cell is fully discharged. Try a NiCd battery in the same tool if your toolmaker has them, I bet it will do holesaws fine, though with a lower power because NiCds kinda suck.

E: worth noting - a lot of lithium batteries for power tools are built lazily, they don't have cell balancing and many times you can recover a "dead" one that the charger refuses to touch by opening it, finding the dud cell with a DMM, and manually charging that single cell till it matches the others again, assuming it hadn't dropped below the minimum safe voltage for the cell chemistry in use. Pretty crappy design, really, but it lets em save a couple bucks on parts and the pack will last past warranty end, so who cares right?

kastein fucked around with this message at 17:54 on Oct 2, 2016

Catatron Prime
Aug 23, 2010

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Bogatyr posted:

I have a Milwaukee 18v Fuel drill(no hammer). I have tried a couple times to get it to drive a 4 inch holesaw in sheet metal. Not even bearing down on it, it won't go for very long and the drill shuts down for a minute or so, dead trigger. All I am running now are the 2.0 batteries. Would the bigger batteries help? It's conceivable that a bigger battery pack could provide more current if the circuitry allowed it... The drill works fine otherwise.
Huh, I've never had any issues running a 4" holesaw on my Makita 18v drill, through concrete transite, hardwood, steel screen backed plaster and lathe, I've never had anything cause it to cut out like that on me.

Maybe try some cutting fluid to help lubricate the cut? Sheet metal should be an easy thing to get through. Make sure you're using the bimetal holesaw blade with carbide or diamond tips. The harbor freight hole saw kit is actually a pretty decent buy, and should work for this kind of thing.

Bigger batteries should only provide longer runtime. You need a tool capable of putting out more amps.

You know, I wonder if you have the clutch set correctly? Make sure it's set to drill and not one of the numbers, otherwise it'll cut out when it hits the set resistance.

Bogatyr
Jul 20, 2009

OSU_Matthew posted:

Huh, I've never had any issues running a 4" holesaw on my Makita 18v drill, through concrete transite, hardwood, steel screen backed plaster and lathe, I've never had anything cause it to cut out like that on me.

Maybe try some cutting fluid to help lubricate the cut? Sheet metal should be an easy thing to get through. Make sure you're using the bimetal holesaw blade with carbide or diamond tips. The harbor freight hole saw kit is actually a pretty decent buy, and should work for this kind of thing.

Bigger batteries should only provide longer runtime. You need a tool capable of putting out more amps.

You know, I wonder if you have the clutch set correctly? Make sure it's set to drill and not one of the numbers, otherwise it'll cut out when it hits the set resistance.

It was a brand new Milwaukee bimetal holesaw. A coworkers older Milwaukee (not brushless) has done it. My suspicion is that the brushless is protecting itself where an older dumber drill may not. It may be too sensitive.

edit: More like kastein said. Freehand holesaw that big is going to grab, the drill is protecting itself/the battery from the spikes.

Bogatyr fucked around with this message at 19:31 on Oct 2, 2016

sharkytm
Oct 9, 2003

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PitViper posted:

I think the base Auto Enginuity package won't do what I want. If it does, then I will 100% buy that over the Autel, and replace my old Innova scanner (or at least relegate it to backup duty). I've been considering AE for a while, because I've been running into tasks that would be easier with a diagnostic tool, and I like that adding each make for enhanced diagnostics is relatively cheap. Wish I could just buy and install now, but I'd have to wait for the dongle and cable to ship, and the car needs to be done tomorrow. Oh well!

I have one, with the GM add on. I'd lend it to you if you wanna try it out. The addon is from ~2010, so it doesn't necessarily support the latest cars. Pm me if you're interested.

Cat Hatter
Oct 24, 2006

Hatters gonna hat.
How stupid am I for considering using an 8 gallon air compressor without a regulator? I know I should just spend the :20bux: to replace the cracked regulator, but its only ever going to be used for filling tires and the hose/chuck are rated for higher than the max tank pressure so I'm considering being cheap. Someone talk me out of being an idiot.

Unsane
Jul 16, 2003

Cat Hatter posted:

How stupid am I for considering using an 8 gallon air compressor without a regulator? I know I should just spend the :20bux: to replace the cracked regulator, but its only ever going to be used for filling tires and the hose/chuck are rated for higher than the max tank pressure so I'm considering being cheap. Someone talk me out of being an idiot.

You'll be fine. What's the cutoff on that compressor? 120?

Cat Hatter
Oct 24, 2006

Hatters gonna hat.

Unsane posted:

You'll be fine. What's the cutoff on that compressor? 120?

Roughly. I can't think of any reason it wouldn't work, but that's also the line of thinking that leads to winning a Darwin Award because you wanted to preheat your Lava Lamp on the stove or something.

EKDS5k
Feb 22, 2012

THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU LET YOUR BEER FREEZE, DAMNIT
The previous shop I worked in had been running a compressor with no regulator for years. Just a hose straight from the tank. I installed one finally because I didn't want to blow up my expensive air tools.

As a bonus, the water drain was in a pain in the rear end place, too, so it almost never got drained.

If all you're doing is filling tires, you'll be fine.

boxen
Feb 20, 2011
Does anyone have any opinions/experience with the Harbor Freight engine hoist/shop crane? I'm thinking of picking one up to pull an engine, and the ones I see on Craigslist always sell too quickly.

Amazon apparently has some as well, for $10 shipping (not Prime-eligible), I guess that's also an option.

I guess I'm looking for a 2-ton crane (more because I want extra length than I need high-capacity), and I'd like it to have folding legs due to limited floor space in my garage.

eddiewalker
Apr 28, 2004

Arrrr ye landlubber

boxen posted:

Does anyone have any opinions/experience with the Harbor Freight engine hoist/shop crane? I'm thinking of picking one up to pull an engine, and the ones I see on Craigslist always sell too quickly.

Amazon apparently has some as well, for $10 shipping (not Prime-eligible), I guess that's also an option.

I guess I'm looking for a 2-ton crane (more because I want extra length than I need high-capacity), and I'd like it to have folding legs due to limited floor space in my garage.

It functions. I borrowed one from a car club contact and it did the job, but leaked a little so my "rental cost" was a bottle of hydraulic fluid.

If you've got an exposed beam in your garage, the HF beam trolley and manual chain hoist is a way nicer combo and easy to store.

boxen
Feb 20, 2011
Overhead cranes aren't really an option, I'm renting the garage. Currently pulling the engine out of the car in a friend's garage, with no exposed beams.
Thanks for the feedback, I really just wanted to make sure it wasn't "kill you and everyone you've ever met" bad. I can deal with having to add fluid when I need to use it.

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

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I have one and would recommend it. I left it in the yard in the rain and snow for several years, sometimes extended sometimes fully collapsed, and the piston shaft definitely got a bit rust pitted but it still worked alright-ish. Lent it to ACEofsnett on a longterm basis, he threw a new ram on it because it was annoying him, and it continues to work fine. I think I've owned it since... 2010? and probably used it a dozen times, never really taking care of it.

The wheels don't roll very well (no bearings, just cast iron wheel with a shaft through it) so lube them a bit with some wd40 or something. Also, it's very much like a mechanics crawler, it'll hold up 250lb or 4000lb (respectively) but it can't roll over a loving ziptie, so I hope your floor is smooth.

boxen
Feb 20, 2011

kastein posted:

I have one and would recommend it. I left it in the yard in the rain and snow for several years, sometimes extended sometimes fully collapsed, and the piston shaft definitely got a bit rust pitted but it still worked alright-ish. Lent it to ACEofsnett on a longterm basis, he threw a new ram on it because it was annoying him, and it continues to work fine. I think I've owned it since... 2010? and probably used it a dozen times, never really taking care of it.

The wheels don't roll very well (no bearings, just cast iron wheel with a shaft through it) so lube them a bit with some wd40 or something. Also, it's very much like a mechanics crawler, it'll hold up 250lb or 4000lb (respectively) but it can't roll over a loving ziptie, so I hope your floor is smooth.

Alright, sounds like it'll be fine then. I'm working on a Fiero, and pulling the engine out of it involves unbolting the subframe and lifting the rear of the car a few feet in the air, and sliding the engine/transmission/subframe assembly out from under the car, so the crane doesn't actually need to roll.

It even looks like the 20% off coupon might work on their shop cranes.

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StormDrain
May 22, 2003

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Yeah that crane is fine and it rolls awful. Sweep the floor first. Maybe in the winter I'll rig some real wheels for race duty.

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