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PST posted:Random comments from crazy town: Strangely none of these dorks were anywhere to be found when the Fatriot
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So Ammon Bundy's testimony is "we brought guns so we'd be taken seriously" and then "a bloo bloo the feds took us seriously!!" Also that the refuge workers shouldn't have taken them seriously.
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Oct 6, 2016 19:39
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Semisponge posted:So Ammon Bundy's testimony is "we brought guns so we'd be taken seriously" and then "a bloo bloo the feds took us seriously!!" Since jury nullification is literally the only way that these idiots don't spend the next couple decades in jail, it's not a bad thing to throw at the wall to see if it sticks. It's not like they stand even a slight chance if they try to win on the facts. Not saying it'll work, mind you, just that it fits in with their overall strategy.
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Oct 6, 2016 19:59
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The majority are rising up, we did it by putting together a police force, federal enforcement agencies, and the national guard. We used them to keep a bunch of jack offs from greedily taking public land.
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on three the eight members of the "Public" symbolizing the eight branches of "government." (including the secret ones) stood in the crowd and uttered the sacred words. The judge burst into unholy flame, stood, and cried "Guil-!" but was unable to finish her legal incantation before the bailiff, newly freed from satanic mind control, was able to gun her down
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Oct 6, 2016 20:07
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nm posted:Could be a rebuttal witness (aka, someone who says "everything that guy said was bullshit.") A paid informant relationship with the Feds would be Brady material, wouldn't it?
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Oct 6, 2016 20:11
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Chef Boyardeez Nuts posted:A paid informant relationship with the Feds would be Brady material, wouldn't it? Yes, but they source is crazy, so. Generally there should be no prosecution surprise witnesses.
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Oct 6, 2016 20:17
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Is there any way for a court to deal with jury nullification? For example, if you've got one juror who's clearly nullifying (I don't know how you determine this) is that the end of any ability to convict?
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Nocturtle posted:Is there any way for a court to deal with jury nullification? For example, if you've got one juror who's clearly nullifying (I don't know how you determine this) is that the end of any ability to convict? My understanding is that you try to catch it during the jury selection process.
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Oct 6, 2016 20:26
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My favorite will always be after the Bundy's got arrested and the rest of the 3% poo poo their pants and took off except a few who stayed and were convinced Seal Team 6 was going to helicopter in any moment and kick off the War of Obama's Aggression
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Oct 6, 2016 20:38
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Your Gay Uncle posted:My favorite will always be after the Bundy's got arrested and the rest of the 3% poo poo their pants and took off except a few who stayed and were convinced Seal Team 6 was going to helicopter in any moment and kick off the War of Obama's Aggression I still remember staying up late during the live streaming of the feds actually making their raid...which consisted of sitting outside the refuge overnight and listening to the occupiers scream and chant about their impending glorious deaths for the revolution as Negotiator Matt laughed at them until they gave up quietly.
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Oct 6, 2016 20:53
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Goodpancakes posted:The majority are rising up, we did it by putting together a police force, federal enforcement agencies, and the national guard. We used them to keep a bunch of jack offs from greedily taking public land. They don't even want to own the land, they just want to exploit it for free. They want to be able to do anything they want without consequence, they are the worst kind of leech.
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Oct 6, 2016 21:12
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Also to exclude others because the tragedy of the commons is that other people want to use the commons.
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Nocturtle posted:Is there any way for a court to deal with jury nullification? For example, if you've got one juror who's clearly nullifying (I don't know how you determine this) is that the end of any ability to convict? If only one is declaring not guilty then that's a hung jury and you can start the trial over from scratch with a different jury. If all twelve declare not guilty than the prosecution is hosed.
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Nocturtle posted:Is there any way for a court to deal with jury nullification? For example, if you've got one juror who's clearly nullifying (I don't know how you determine this) is that the end of any ability to convict? If the nullifier admits it to his fellow jurors and they snitch him out, the juror may be replaced in some circumstances.
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PST posted:Bonus quote, is this some form of mental health problem? I don't know how computers work, must be the government!!!
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hangedman1984 posted:I don't know how computers work, must be the government!!! Uh but he clearly took "a class" about Internet in 1997 and decided it was evil so obviously it's not his own lack of knowledge causing the issue 
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ate all the Oreos posted:Uh but he clearly took "a class" about Internet in 1997 and decided it was evil so obviously it's not his own lack of knowledge causing the issue The Internet makes you stupid.
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The Lone Badger posted:If only one is declaring not guilty then that's a hung jury and you can start the trial over from scratch with a different jury. If all twelve declare not guilty than the prosecution is hosed. nm posted:If the nullifier admits it to his fellow jurors and they snitch him out, the juror may be replaced in some circumstances. Thanks. I guess this isn't a problem in practice, but maybe this is only because nullification isn't common knowledge? Either way there's an opportunity here to apply deep learning algorithms to prospective juror facebook profiles to identify potential nullifiers during voir dire. Any idea how much prosecuting/defense attorneys would pay for such a service?
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Oct 7, 2016 00:32
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I would blow Dane Cook posted:Brand Nu Thornton is the Shofar guy lol. Someone's parents thought they were clever
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Mods please change my name to Brand Nu Thornton.
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Oct 7, 2016 02:41
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SocketWrench posted:Someone's parents thought they were clever Ever heard of the pest control company Truly Nolan? I went to elementary school with the founder's nephew, whose name was Maximum Nolan. His dad was named Really Nolan. There was also a Very Nolan in the family somewhere and god knows what else.
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ate all the Oreos posted:Ever heard of the pest control company Truly Nolan? I went to elementary school with the founder's nephew, whose name was Maximum Nolan. His dad was named Really Nolan. There was also a Very Nolan in the family somewhere and god knows what else. Extremely Nolan Guy 
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ate all the Oreos posted:Ever heard of the pest control company Truly Nolan? I went to elementary school with the founder's nephew, whose name was Maximum Nolan. His dad was named Really Nolan. There was also a Very Nolan in the family somewhere and god knows what else. Wha..? Why?
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Starshark posted:Wha..? Why? Why the hell not?
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https://twitter.com/cranky_david/status/784220705692930048 https://twitter.com/chrisliedle/status/784197530699444225 Honestly if I was a juror that had to sit through 3 days of Ammon Bundy i'd be asking the Judge if the death penalty was still on the table.
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Oct 7, 2016 08:48
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A short cross after a long direct generally exists to both make you look good to the jury and basically point out that the testimony is bullshit. 15min may havr been too long for the latter, though.
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ate all the Oreos posted:Ever heard of the pest control company Truly Nolan? I went to elementary school with the founder's nephew, whose name was Maximum Nolan. His dad was named Really Nolan. There was also a Very Nolan in the family somewhere and god knows what else. Dear god, when I lived in sw Florida for a time their little yellow cars with the giant mouse ears were everywhere
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ate all the Oreos posted:Ever heard of the pest control company Truly Nolan? I went to elementary school with the founder's nephew, whose name was Maximum Nolan. His dad was named Really Nolan. There was also a Very Nolan in the family somewhere and god knows what else. That reminds me of Bill Lear's daughter Shanda.
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ate all the Oreos posted:Ever heard of the pest control company Truly Nolan? I went to elementary school with the founder's nephew, whose name was Maximum Nolan. His dad was named Really Nolan. There was also a Very Nolan in the family somewhere and god knows what else. Oh yes, I know all to well. Went to school with a kid named Richard Jacks Seimen. Knew another named Cream. Then there was that NASCAR driver Dick Trickle....you know his parents hated him
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SocketWrench posted:Went to school with a kid named Richard Jacks Seimen. What happened to him?  And surely his parents knew what would happen, naming him that?
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SocketWrench posted:Oh yes, I know all to well. Went to school with a kid named Richard Jacks Seimen. Knew another named Cream. Then there was that NASCAR driver Dick Trickle....you know his parents hated him We had a Richard Head at my high school I'm sure his parents thought they were being so funny. He was one of the angriest people I've ever met, and I am a pretty angry guy.
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red19fire posted:Extremely Nolan Guy Things Man Was Not Meant To Nolan 
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Mirthless posted:We had a Richard Head at my high school I used to work with a guy named Harry Johnson. Now, this wasn't a case of parents naming him Harold Johnson and not realizing the implications or thinking they were being sneakily clever. His given name was Harry. He was the most unpleasant, angry person I've ever met but absolutely nobody called him on it because we all understood why he hated the world.
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AB is a poo poo to Marshals, loses 'special privilege'. HAHA [/Nelson] http://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-standoff/2016/10/us_marshals_no_longer_allowing.html
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Shortly after the occupation ended, I wrote a 17-page article detailing the occupation from start to finish. Here's a link for anyone who wants a refresher: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1eFXvnpsoJaR5idR4Cytg9a1J5lwXICh6fWxmt7JaVhU/edit
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TotalLossBrain posted:AB is a poo poo to Marshals, loses 'special privilege'. HAHA [/Nelson] LOL, what an idiot.
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CommissarMega posted:What happened to him? No one really picked on him because he was a "special" type of kid that I shared a few classes with like PE and had the same lunch period.
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SocketWrench posted:Oh yes, I know all to well. Went to school with a kid named Richard Jacks Seimen. Knew another named Cream. Then there was that NASCAR driver Dick Trickle....you know his parents hated him Dick Trickle did end up blowing his brains out...
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TotalLossBrain posted:AB is a poo poo to Marshals, loses 'special privilege'. HAHA [/Nelson]
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