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who the gently caress is connie and why should i care And drat, if getting Devil Child isn't satisfying when you're in a bad place. Ibadism ain't gonna die out now, Iberia!
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# ? Oct 4, 2016 20:08 |
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Ragnar seems to be a bit confused
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# ? Oct 4, 2016 22:18 |
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The late antiquity mod for CK2 is now claiming that Theodora, the empress-consort of Justinian, was a direct descendant of Cleopatra VII. I just needed to share that, because it's blowing my mind
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# ? Oct 4, 2016 22:59 |
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The Sin of Onan posted:The late antiquity mod for CK2 is now claiming that Theodora, the empress-consort of Justinian, was a direct descendant of Cleopatra VII. Went down that rabbit hole for myself and I think I found the 'source': http://bloodroyal.tripod.com/CleopatraVII.html quote:19. Theodora - Empress (d548) [her sisters were: Comitio & Anastasia]; =1 Helebolus, a Syrian noble; & 2 Justinian "The Great" Byzantine Emperor 527-565
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# ? Oct 5, 2016 05:17 |
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500 years later, a LOT of people would be descended from Cleopatra. On the other hand, this lineage claims that her mother is descended from Cleopatra, and there's no reliable record of who her mother was so it's almost certainly bullshit
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# ? Oct 5, 2016 06:54 |
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Kaza42 posted:500 years later, a LOT of people would be descended from Cleopatra. On the other hand, this lineage claims that her mother is descended from Cleopatra, and there's no reliable record of who her mother was so it's almost certainly bullshit Well yeah, but the mod specifically has her as being part of an "Antonius-Ptolemaios" dynasty, as if she actually claimed direct descent from Mark Antony and Cleopatra, and other people recognised that claim. Even if she was distantly descended from the Ptolemies (and I have found no proof for this chain of descent they're citing anywhere; trying to find it across the internet only seems to bring up various genealogical sites using the exact same list, with nary a primary source to be found), putting her in the Ptolemaic dynasty is insane.
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# ? Oct 5, 2016 09:18 |
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Deceitful Penguin posted:who the gently caress is connie and why should i care Character from a TV show. The Sin of Onan posted:Well yeah, but the mod specifically has her as being part of an "Antonius-Ptolemaios" dynasty, as if she actually claimed direct descent from Mark Antony and Cleopatra, and other people recognised that claim. Even if she was distantly descended from the Ptolemies (and I have found no proof for this chain of descent they're citing anywhere; trying to find it across the internet only seems to bring up various genealogical sites using the exact same list, with nary a primary source to be found), putting her in the Ptolemaic dynasty is insane. I am admittedly not an expert on this sort of thing but you putting it this way makes it sound ridiculous, yeah.
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# ? Oct 5, 2016 09:30 |
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All I can think of is some weird reincarnation believer (As opposed to the sane and rational reincarnation believers, and I say this unironically) who just HAS to be Einstein or Shakespeare or, yes, Cleopatra reborn, and of COURSE Cleopatra is so important that she HAS to be a member of the Ptolemaic dynasty.
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# ? Oct 5, 2016 12:26 |
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There are a looot of ridiculous dynastic descent claims that people took seriously. For a while people even believed that royal dynasties were descended from gods!
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# ? Oct 5, 2016 14:24 |
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GunnerJ posted:There are a looot of ridiculous dynastic descent claims that people took seriously. For a while people even believed that royal dynasties were descended from gods! Yeah, in reality fewer than 20% of royal dynasties have any significant divine blood
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# ? Oct 5, 2016 16:31 |
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The Ynglings claimed to be descendants of Odin but that he wasn't really a God but a dude who was just so drat awesome and powerful that people began to think he was one. At least after they became Christians, before that they might have legit claimed to have the blood of Gods. I think the "Yng" of their name even refers to Freyr/Yngvi. One of Odin's sons.
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# ? Oct 5, 2016 22:36 |
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If you go back far enough, everyone is basically descended from everyone. Also, I think I have found my new OP and it's Orthodox merchant republics. Start as Amalfi, get yourself a king tier title and your own patriarch then go to town on your patricians with excommunications, castrations, torture, mutilation etc.
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# ? Oct 6, 2016 01:12 |
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GunnerJ posted:There are a looot of ridiculous dynastic descent claims that people took seriously. For a while people even believed that royal dynasties were descended from gods! One of the terms of Japan's surrender in WWII was that Hirohito had to renounce the claim that the imperial family was divinely descended. This was a early-mid 20th century industrialized world power. So yeah, 'divine rule' is a real thing with monarchies.
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# ? Oct 6, 2016 01:59 |
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Parallax Scroll posted:I've got an issue with the UI. When you're building retinues, or raising levies, there's a little up-arrow icon inside a circle, that can be either blue if it's enabled or gray if it's disabled. I might be a little colorblind but I often have a hard time telling these two apart. Is there a mod that changes those colors/icons? Well I went ahead and figured out how making a mod for this game works so I could change this myself. I changed the icons to make the yellow more vivid because I was having trouble telling the difference between "grayed out" and "not grayed out" before. Was gonna change the blue background but that's more work and I suck at graphic editing. The yellow was easier. These before and after images aren't very accurate, because the ck2 screenshot function seems to make the color duller, and then imgur dulls it even more. In-game the yellow is bright as gently caress. Before After Looks like I screwed up the circular borders a little in the process but whatev, this will probably do for now. This was meant to be functional, not pretty.
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# ? Oct 6, 2016 02:01 |
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Speaking of modding, what am I doing wrong here? It's still showing up when I run testevent under the console as North Germanic only. I replaced "culture_group = north_germanic" with OR = { culture_group = north_germanic culture = norman culture = old_saxon culture = russian culture = finnish culture = ugricbaltic } code:
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# ? Oct 6, 2016 02:31 |
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The Sin of Onan posted:The late antiquity mod for CK2 is now claiming that Theodora, the empress-consort of Justinian, was a direct descendant of Cleopatra VII.
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# ? Oct 6, 2016 02:54 |
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it's also a cool good period
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# ? Oct 6, 2016 03:18 |
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Koramei posted:it's also a cool good period agreed
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# ? Oct 6, 2016 03:36 |
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Darth Windu posted:Speaking of modding, what am I doing wrong here? It's still showing up when I run testevent under the console as North Germanic only. I replaced "culture_group = north_germanic" with I'm no expert but I don't think you can use OR in the fast triggers section. Try moving that to be under trigger.
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# ? Oct 6, 2016 03:37 |
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HotCanadianChick posted:One of the terms of Japan's surrender in WWII was that Hirohito had to renounce the claim that the imperial family was divinely descended. This was a early-mid 20th century industrialized world power. Not just divinely descended but also literally divine. He basically had to issue a public statement that he wasn't a god. It's not quite as extreme but the monarch of Britain is also the head of the Church of England which makes the queen at least a bit of a pope.
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# ? Oct 6, 2016 04:23 |
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TheCIASentMe posted:I'm no expert but I don't think you can use OR in the fast triggers section. Try moving that to be under trigger. Thanks. Should I take out the culture_group = north_germanic in the fast triggers section then?
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# ? Oct 6, 2016 04:48 |
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It's 852 and I just mended the Great Schism and I'm pretty close to restoring the Roman Empire. I'm doing it on ironman and it's way easier than I thought it would be. I don't usually play on ironman because I'm scared of making a wrong move and ruining everything, but I haven't run into any trouble so far. The worst was when one of my ruler's died and left his 3 year old son in charge. My council wouldn't let me declare any wars so I just had to sit around for a while. Other than that, it's been very smooth, although there's still plenty of time for everything to go to hell.
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# ? Oct 6, 2016 06:36 |
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So I'm trying to get a plot to murder my incapable first wife going, but the plot keeps disappearing. I can set her as my plot target, and can invite plotters, but as soon as I unpause the game the plot goes away. What gives? Are you not allowed to murder incapable people?
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# ? Oct 6, 2016 07:09 |
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Automated Posting posted:So I'm trying to get a plot to murder my incapable first wife going, but the plot keeps disappearing. I can set her as my plot target, and can invite plotters, but as soon as I unpause the game the plot goes away. What gives? Are you not allowed to murder incapable people? Have you been shutting the gates to avoid illness? I'm not sure, but I think that was shutting off plots in my last game.
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# ? Oct 6, 2016 07:16 |
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mythomanic posted:Have you been shutting the gates to avoid illness? I'm not sure, but I think that was shutting off plots in my last game. No, I only ever do that when the Black Death rolls around.
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# ? Oct 6, 2016 07:50 |
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Darth Windu posted:Thanks. Should I take out the culture_group = north_germanic in the fast triggers section then? Yes, you need to do both of those.
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# ? Oct 6, 2016 14:37 |
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Darth Windu posted:Thanks. Should I take out the culture_group = north_germanic in the fast triggers section then? Yeah, that would limit it to just that culture group otherwise. Basically just move your OR function into the trigger section and try that. I think what the fast triggers do is immediately end the event without any further processing as soon as they hit a no. So it dives into the OR function and sees the first line and then compares on that, if that first line returns false then the entire event ends even if other items in the OR function would return true.
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# ? Oct 6, 2016 15:38 |
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It worked! Thanks guys.
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# ? Oct 6, 2016 16:40 |
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TheCIASentMe posted:I think what the fast triggers do is immediately end the event without any further processing as soon as they hit a no. More or less this, except that you can't use OR clauses in fast triggers. In fact, there are only a very limited number of things you can check for in fast triggers, and as far as anyone can tell you can only check for one of each such thing - so one culture group or culture, one religion group or religion, one character flag, etc, and it will filter the event away from anyone who hits a no on a fast trigger, without wasting processing time checking against the MTTH.
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# ? Oct 6, 2016 18:06 |
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I just restored the Roman Empire. I thought it was going to be really hard and take me a long time but it's only 868. Now I don't know what to do for the rest of the game. Prepare for the jihads and reclaim the rest of the old borders I guess. I wish I had Sunset Invasion turned on because right now only the Shia Caliphate rivals me and not by too much.
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# ? Oct 7, 2016 17:23 |
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Pity the fool who doesn't run with sunset invasion on. Personally, I always like to start inflicting odd and inane horrors upon the landscape when I got too much power. As the Romans, I liked to reconvert the world to catholicism for instance, or creating ethnic enclaves in the wrong places instead of just greeking it up or seeing if there were any interesting religions to plop down. Greek Hindu Mali was a heck of a thing, for instance
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# ? Oct 7, 2016 20:45 |
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Deceitful Penguin posted:Pity the fool who doesn't run with sunset invasion on. A man after my own heart. I made it my personal mission to make the whole of Sri Lanka Scottish Messalians in my Roman Empire WC game.
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# ? Oct 7, 2016 21:52 |
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Ofaloaf posted:The next Paradox project better be set in Late Antiquity, just so that thing can be mercifully killed off. Koramei posted:it's also a cool good period Agreed. Genuinely thinking of trying to make one myself at this point, because speaking as a Classics student specialising in Late Antiquity, the current one almost hurts to look at. But it's not like I'm much of a modder A Tartan Tory posted:A man after my own heart. Many, many expansions ago (long enough ago that Egypt was still entirely Muslim at game start), I got bored enough with universal empire that I tried to culture-swap Ireland and Egypt - make all of Egypt Irish Catholic, and all of Ireland Sunni Egyptian. For some reason, the Egyptians seemed far more ready to adopt Irish culture than the Irish did Egyptian. Maybe it's because I was a Catholic ruler myself? Not Irish, though, so maybe not.
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# ? Oct 7, 2016 22:19 |
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Dr. S.O. Feelgood posted:I just restored the Roman Empire. I thought it was going to be really hard and take me a long time but it's only 868. Now I don't know what to do for the rest of the game. Prepare for the jihads and reclaim the rest of the old borders I guess. I wish I had Sunset Invasion turned on because right now only the Shia Caliphate rivals me and not by too much. There's plenty of provinces to restore. I usually end up trying to de-jure drift kingdoms in to appealing shapes.
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Dr. S.O. Feelgood posted:I just restored the Roman Empire. I thought it was going to be really hard and take me a long time but it's only 868. Now I don't know what to do for the rest of the game. Prepare for the jihads and reclaim the rest of the old borders I guess. I wish I had Sunset Invasion turned on because right now only the Shia Caliphate rivals me and not by too much. As it happens this is exactly my game and I've got a couple of questions for people who've played as the Byz before. It's the 9th Century and the Aztecs have landed in Britain and have just taken London. The Abbasids have collapsed due to decadence and I've got all of the Orthodox holy Patriarchs restored apart from Jerusalem, which is also an independent Muslim state, so will be easy enough for me to take. My question is, if I restore the schism and make Catholicism an Orthodox heresy will that remove Crusades as an option for Europe against the Aztecs? Obviously in the long term that's a goal but I want to fight against an interesting Europe and not just the Aztecs and Ummayyads (who have half of France already too).
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# ? Oct 8, 2016 15:09 |
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The Sin of Onan posted:Agreed. Genuinely thinking of trying to make one myself at this point, because speaking as a Classics student specialising in Late Antiquity, the current one almost hurts to look at. But it's not like I'm much of a modder Unlike when I made the mod originally though, I no longer have steady access to a university library and need to lie off my rear end to even get a glance at the PLRE. I can mod, but I'd need help researching and review from someone who actually knows poo poo to do the period justice.
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# ? Oct 8, 2016 15:31 |
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Dr. S.O. Feelgood posted:I just restored the Roman Empire. I thought it was going to be really hard and take me a long time but it's only 868. Now I don't know what to do for the rest of the game. Prepare for the jihads and reclaim the rest of the old borders I guess. I wish I had Sunset Invasion turned on because right now only the Shia Caliphate rivals me and not by too much. So i havent played CK2 in a long while. If I wanted to restore the Roman Empire... 1. what's the preferred start date 2. starting character? 3. If I wanted to make it "OG" Hellenistic, is there a mod to make that a viable religion? Is the base gamer supporting it now? I'm out of the loop.
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# ? Oct 8, 2016 16:24 |
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Annath posted:So i havent played CK2 in a long while. I don't know about mods, but for the first two 769 as Charlemagne is a huge leg-up.
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# ? Oct 8, 2016 16:57 |
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Jedit posted:I don't know about mods, but for the first two 769 as Charlemagne is a huge leg-up. If you start in 1068, you get an emperor that has a much better chance against the Seljuks too.
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Annath posted:So i havent played CK2 in a long while. I started in 769 as the Byzantine Emperor. You could also do what Jedit said and start as Charlemagne, where I think you then swear fealty to the Byzantines and then push for elective. I've never done that myself though, so I'm not sure of the strategy.
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