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Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

RheaConfused posted:

That sucks. I actually love mine, but it's working with a helicopter air ambulance unit, and about as far from a traditional government job as you can get. In fact, we are one of the only publicly owned units in the country. Plus, yay helicopters!

Do you get a pension and other sweet fat government bennies? That sounds like the coolest best most awesome job in the world

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Tyro
Nov 10, 2009
Yeah Rhea that is awesome. I also am lucky and totally love my government job and am well compensated for what I do. But I'm really, really looking forward to that PSLF kicking in. I'm a third of the way there.

RheaConfused
Jan 22, 2004

I feel the need.
The need... for
:sparkles: :sparkles:

ate all the Oreos posted:

Do you get a pension and other sweet fat government bennies? That sounds like the coolest best most awesome job in the world

Oh yes. I came from working in a private sector hospital and was like "what is a paid holiday what is happening to me" and now a great pension, 14 paid holidays, sick time, vacation, 100% covered insurance, it's basically insane. And I make a lot more money. I'm one of two office staff, so I don't get to ride out every day, but every once in a while is good enough for me. You couldn't find better people to work with than those who risk their lives every day to pull people out of floods and such. Also, it is 1.1 miles from my house, so we only need to own one car. I'm keeping my government job (where I can have as many tattoos as I want, including hand tattoos) till I die.

Bhodi
Dec 9, 2007

Oh, it's just a cat.
Pillbug

Mocking Bird posted:

My public government social work job is the best paying one in my field and qualified me for PSLF, but is also soul crushingly depressing and I may be a husk of a human 7 years from now.
Don't you work for CPS or a CPS-like agency? And foster teenagers? You save kids!

Mocking Bird
Aug 17, 2011

Bhodi posted:

Don't you work for CPS or a CPS-like agency? And foster teenagers? You save kids!

... Do I? I do work for CPS, but the saving kids thing is questionable. At the moment mostly I'm telling moms that I have too many concerns about their sobriety to leave their infant in their care and the baby needs to come with me and the nice officer, or picking up traumatized kids from foster homes who can't handle them and gave up and taking them to emergency shelters. It's been a soul crushing month or two.

My kid is an rear end in a top hat but admittedly I do love her to pieces. Her senior trip is $600, and her graduation, yearbook, and portrait stuff is another $350. I've also spent $160 so far on college applications.

Teens are BWM.

Guinness
Sep 15, 2004

Mocking Bird posted:

I've also spent $160 so far on college applications.

She's only applied to one college?

Mocking Bird
Aug 17, 2011

Guinness posted:

She's only applied to one college?

California state universities are $55 a pop and she got fees waived for four of them.

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

Mocking Bird posted:

California state universities are $55 a pop and she got fees waived for four of them.

Universities will waive application fees?!?

Star War Sex Parrot
Oct 2, 2003

WampaLord posted:

Universities will waive application fees?!?
Yes. It's need-based.

Twerk from Home
Jan 17, 2009

This avatar brought to you by the 'save our dead gay forums' foundation.

Mocking Bird posted:

California state universities are $55 a pop and she got fees waived for four of them.

A good parent. Keep it up, that's awesome.

Mocking Bird
Aug 17, 2011

Star War Sex Parrot posted:

Yes. It's need-based.

Yes. Foster children are independent students with a FAFSA calculated EFC of 0.

Nitrox
Jul 5, 2002
Where is the derail bird now? Oh, there it is

Devian666
Aug 20, 2008

Take some advice Chris.

Fun Shoe
Borrows $90k and ends up owing finance company $650k in 6 years. Finance company goes after house. There's the usual 29% interest and 39% penalty interest, along with rolling over loans when she had no income.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/85081930/womans-home-at-risk-as-90000-loan-rolls-over-to-650000

monster on a stick
Apr 29, 2013

Devian666 posted:

Borrows $90k and ends up owing finance company $650k in 6 years. Finance company goes after house. There's the usual 29% interest and 39% penalty interest, along with rolling over loans when she had no income.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/85081930/womans-home-at-risk-as-90000-loan-rolls-over-to-650000

quote:

The finance company would not lend Maharak's business but was happy to give the money to his wife, who later took another $40,000 to help pay off her husband's debts.
...
But later Maharak's company, 3 Maharajs​, went into liquidation and Nandani could not pay off the loans, which were combined with fresh loans.

I wonder how much she actually borrowed because it sure isn't $90k.

Tamarillo
Aug 6, 2009

Devian666 posted:

Borrows $90k and ends up owing finance company $650k in 6 years. Finance company goes after house. There's the usual 29% interest and 39% penalty interest, along with rolling over loans when she had no income.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/85081930/womans-home-at-risk-as-90000-loan-rolls-over-to-650000

God I was going to link this too. I hate that the headline is 'unfair loan' - it's not unfair it's just staggeringly retarded. Yes, lets all use a lovely payday loan company as a bank when we have no income.

pig slut lisa
Mar 5, 2012

irl is good


I hadn't looked at this thread in ~10 days and there's too much to quote from the past 10 pages so instead thanks just thanks to everyone who posted the derail bird

ChickenOfTomorrow
Nov 11, 2012

god damn it, you've got to be kind


are you working in a fairytale, surely these things no longer exist

unbuttonedclone
Dec 30, 2008
I worked for a non-profit government funded community healthcare center and it sucked--total toxic work environment that ruined my life--just chiming in.

I don't have poo poo from it.

Devian666
Aug 20, 2008

Take some advice Chris.

Fun Shoe

Tamarillo posted:

God I was going to link this too. I hate that the headline is 'unfair loan' - it's not unfair it's just staggeringly retarded. Yes, lets all use a lovely payday loan company as a bank when we have no income.

There's some irresponsible lending but they're still going to make a good profit from this. It really is about loving over people and the court will temper the payout but going to a payday loan outfit is the worst idea. It's going to still cost them a lot.

constantIllusion
Feb 16, 2010

Devian666 posted:

Borrows $90k and ends up owing finance company $650k in 6 years. Finance company goes after house. There's the usual 29% interest and 39% penalty interest, along with rolling over loans when she had no income.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/85081930/womans-home-at-risk-as-90000-loan-rolls-over-to-650000

Is this the Kiwi version of a pay day loan where the interest rate is 700%?

Haifisch
Nov 13, 2010

Objection! I object! That was... objectionable!



Taco Defender
Reddit "What could go wrong?" of the day:

https://www.reddit.com/r/personalfinance/comments/56e7o1/can_me_19_and_bf_20_along_with_bfs_mom_47_qualify/ posted:

Brief financial backstory for each of us: I'm 19, recently opened a secured credit card, and will have my first credit report in a couple months. I own and have a paid off car and make monthly car insurance payments ($140) along with phone bill ($32) I make $12.25/hr and work around 25 hrs a week generally bringing home about $1200/month. I also pay for my own college but that's what I used my savings account for (I inherited a sum of money when my grandparents passed away). I also have about $1500 stored in a lockbox at home for getting a home, furniture, surprise expenses, etc whatever.

Boyfriend is nearly 20 (November is his birthday), has not opened a credit card yet but will be soon. He doesn't pay any of his bills, doesn't own his car (paid off by his folks), but does pay for his college himself which is about $1800 a semester with books, tuition, etc. He saves up for it though and pays it within two payments. He currently makes about $800/monthly but once he secures this new job he'll be making about $1200/monthly as well.

Boyfriend's mom (47) has a part time job (although she used to have a well-paying full time job) at $9/hr and makes about $800/monthly. She does have good credit though and currently owns the current home we all reside at with about $60,000 left on it.

Anyways, the home we're interested in purchasing is $115,000 for 4 bed, 3 bath and it's a foreclosure home. We will be selling our current home to an investor who knows my mom and we should be getting at least $20,000 guaranteed from him which will go directly to the down payment of the new house. This would make the new mortgage $95,000 unless we get exactly 20% for the down payment which would be $92,000 for the loan.

I spoke to an agent on the phone today (cuz his mom doesn't speak english well and he isn't very good with talking, negotiating and doesn't know much about finances or real estate compared to me) and he basically said oh you won't qualify you don't have a decent debt-to-income ratio blablabla you guys need to build more credit before even considering this home. He was talking down to me like I was a child and that was when he didn't even know my age, I can't imagine if he knew my age how he'd treat me. Well I did research and used a dti calculator and mortgage calculator. Our dti is 17% which is said to be favorable considering dtis should max out at the recommended cap of 36%. Also the mortgage payment would be about $465 at maximum after the down payment and what not but more likely to be $430. Between 3 people that'd be $155 each to pay monthly which isn't hard.

So reddit, am I crazy to think that a young college age couple and a middle aged woman could purchase a house together? (All our names would most likely need to go on the house) Or should we ask my boyfriend's father (separated but on good terms with his mother) to be an non-occupying coborrower to help this out? Any other advice? Thank you.
The silver lining is that they wouldn't qualify for a mortgage anyway, but the fact that they're considering this at all is :psyduck:.

BonerGhost
Mar 9, 2007

The "going to buy a house with my college boyfriend and his mother" part is what gets me, Jesus Christ abort

Apprentice Dick
Dec 1, 2009

NancyPants posted:

The "going to buy a house with my college boyfriend and his mother" part is what gets me, Jesus Christ abort

But surely they will be together ~forever~! You just don't understand their love.

LLCoolJD
Dec 8, 2007

Musk threatens the inorganic promotion of left-wing ideology that had been taking place on the platform

Block me for being an unironic DeSantis fan, too!

ChickenOfTomorrow posted:

are you working in a fairytale, surely these things no longer exist

They still officially exist, although who knows whether they'll actually be honored 30 years from now.

BeastOfExmoor
Aug 19, 2003

I will be gone, but not forever.

Haifisch posted:

Reddit "What could go wrong?" of the day:

The silver lining is that they wouldn't qualify for a mortgage anyway, but the fact that they're considering this at all is :psyduck:.

She seems like she has her head screwed on pretty straight financially for a 19yr old. Buying a house at 19 with your boyfriend and his mother is like horribly naive though.

That said, when the total mortgage cost for a a house is only slightly more than I paid to split a house five ways ten years ago then it's almost understandable that a 19yr old would want to buy.

H110Hawk
Dec 28, 2006
Person keeps horse at a boarder. Person wants to move horse, surprise! No horse! General consensus is it was sold a long time ago.

quote:

https://www.reddit.com/r/legaladvice/comments/56cwro/equine_boarder_euthenizes_my_horse_face_books_me/

I board my horse at a private boarder that houses 11 horses on his home property. My horse is registered to the American Quarter Horse Association by me. 1 week ago, I chose to move my horse closer to home & tell the border so. He said he needs a full 30 days more & then goes no contact. I see him driving around town yesterday & he avoids eye contact. I get a Facebook message today saying that my horse ate a bunch of wood on his property, got kicked in the stomach by another horse, & his brother from 6 hours north of here, a family doctor, had to put him to sleep. There are no records for his brother practicing veterinary medicine in this state, no record of the body disposal, holes upon holes in this story... I ask for details of his death record, the man says "Get over it, he's dead! My brother is a family doctor, he's been practicing medicine long enough to perform euthanasia.." What recourse do I have? He may have sold my horse out from underneath me & have no body to provide. He may have killed my horse in a shady way. I would at least like to know that my 13 year old horse is alive if he still is... Please help!!!

Edit: I am in Illinois

Haifisch
Nov 13, 2010

Objection! I object! That was... objectionable!



Taco Defender
"Oh, you want your horse back? It, uh, ate wood and died. Also it got kicked in the stomach. And my human doctor brother euth'd it. And there's no body to show you. And we're only telling you now, via facebook, because we're a legitimate operation."

There are commenters who think the boarder might be doing this to multiple horses, but if they're that bad of a liar, how have they avoided trouble this long?

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

I like how she just apparently kept the horse in storage and never went to visit it at all ever

EAT FASTER!!!!!!
Sep 21, 2002

Legendary.


:hampants::hampants::hampants:
Horses, unless you're doing it professionally, are pretty capital A-1 BWM.

SmuglyDismissed
Nov 27, 2007
IGNORE ME!!!

ate all the Oreos posted:

I like how she just apparently kept the horse in storage and never went to visit it at all ever

I was thinking the same thing. I guess it's like a gym membership or a timeshare.

Factor Mystic
Mar 20, 2006

Baby's First Post-Apocalyptic Fiction

H110Hawk posted:

Person keeps horse at a boarder. Person wants to move horse, surprise! No horse! General consensus is it was sold a long time ago.

This plan could work, if the boarder had gotten a horse from someone else to give to the person who wanted to withdraw. It's only a problem if everyone needs to withdraw all their horses at once. But it's better to just leave your horse in the market and let the boarder take care of it.

Renegret
May 26, 2007

THANK YOU FOR CALLING HELP DOG, INC.

YOUR POSITION IN THE QUEUE IS *pbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbt*


Cat Army Sworn Enemy

Factor Mystic posted:

This plan could work, if the boarder had gotten a horse from someone else to give to the person who wanted to withdraw. It's only a problem if everyone needs to withdraw all their horses at once. But it's better to just leave your horse in the market and let the boarder take care of it.

hahahaha

Blinkman987
Jul 10, 2008

Gender roles guilt me into being fat.

Factor Mystic posted:

This plan could work, if the boarder had gotten a horse from someone else to give to the person who wanted to withdraw. It's only a problem if everyone needs to withdraw all their horses at once. But it's better to just leave your horse in the market and let the boarder take care of it.

Ponzy Scheme

Moneyball
Jul 11, 2005

It's a problem you think we need to explain ourselves.
The Z is silent :downs:

SlapActionJackson
Jul 27, 2006

Factor Mystic posted:

This plan could work, if the boarder had gotten a horse from someone else to give to the person who wanted to withdraw. It's only a problem if everyone needs to withdraw all their horses at once. But it's better to just leave your horse in the market and let the boarder take care of it.

Fractional reserve horse.

Switchback
Jul 23, 2001

H110Hawk posted:

Person keeps horse at a boarder. Person wants to move horse, surprise! No horse! General consensus is it was sold a long time ago.

quote:

Eeeeh, horses are notorious for dying in dumb unpredictable ways. Some horses do a thing called cribbing where they bite the wood of their stall and sort of breathe in weird cause it causes some kinds of pleasurable sensation. It's not out of the realm of possibility that a horse could eat wood (my friend just lost a goat and during the necropsy there was a metric fuckton of fence in its stomach) but this guys is doing the classic "Give too many details" of a bad lie.
Jeez do goats do that often?

quote:

People give sheep a bad rap but every one of my farmer friends has had goats die in a SPECTACULARLY stupid way. My one friend just lost her favorite goat because it got its head stuck in a fence and freaked out, snapping its neck. Last year she had a kid drown in a tub of water she didn't think it could reach and the next day it's twin almost drowned in the same tub even though she put a grate over it so only the top inch or two off water was accessible. Another friend had one goat get tangled in some baling twine (even though she scours her farm for any loose strings). The twine got tangled around another goat. Both those goats ended up fine but not the goat that tried to walk between them while they were freaking out!!!!! Meanwhile the sheep get caught in something and go 'well, time to die I guess' and while they lay there calmly for the sweet touch of death you can come up when you find them hours later and just cut them loose.

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

Switchback posted:

Jeez do goats do that often?

To be fair if I were constantly covered in massive amounts of wool regardless of the weather I'd probably pray for the sweet release of death too.

Cockmaster
Feb 24, 2002

EAT FASTER!!!!!! posted:

Horses, unless you're doing it professionally, are pretty capital A-1 BWM.

In and of themselves, they're no more BWM than any other hobby involving things that cost money. They just tend to attract people who think that following one's passions (whether in terms of careers or hobbies) means not bothering to do any research beforehand.

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

Cockmaster posted:

In and of themselves, they're no more BWM than any other hobby involving things that cost money. They just tend to attract people who think that following one's passions (whether in terms of careers or hobbies) means not bothering to do any research beforehand.

I don't know, there's very few hobbies that cost that much money. Like I guess people with project cars are the closest equivalent cost? You generally don't see people taking out massive loans to pay for their beading or model plane passion.

Knowing this thread someone's now going to find a person who took out a second mortgage to pay for their model plane addiction though :v:

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B33rChiller
Aug 18, 2011




ate all the Oreos posted:

I don't know, there's very few hobbies that cost that much money. Like I guess people with project cars are the closest equivalent cost? You generally don't see people taking out massive loans to pay for their beading or model plane passion.

Knowing this thread someone's now going to find a person who took out a second mortgage to pay for their model plane addiction though :v:

Along those lines, there's a company in Canada specialising in gun loans. I don't have any specific stories, but some people spend a lot of money on guns.

*Note: I'm not calling out IR35 for being BWM by owning all those guns. I'm sure at least some of them are for professional face shooting purposes.*

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