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constantIllusion posted:Due to Hurricane Matthew ravaging the Atlantic Coastline of the South this week the Facebook group Veterans Against The Tea Party (I guess they're the anti-EPORW) posted this image reminding people of the importance of taxation: 
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Zephyrine posted:Yes I accept that. I just wish that the people who spent the money kept that in mind when spending it. Just because you don't personally see the value in a well maintained, aesthetically pleasing park does not mean others don't.
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Oct 8, 2016 11:53
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Well this will be confusing for a while
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Oct 8, 2016 12:18
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This is why we can't have nice things. People are going to have to move on to M&Ms because skittle will be a racial slur. Then the same people who turned it into a slur will say that Political correctness has gone too far and that there's no relations between skittles and slurs.
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Oct 8, 2016 13:00
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Zephyrine posted:This is why we can't have nice things. People are going to have to move on to M&Ms because skittle will be a racial slur. Then the same people who turned it into a slur will say that Political correctness has gone too far and that there's no relations between skittles and slurs. but M&Ms all taste the same no matter what color is on the outside...
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Oct 8, 2016 13:08
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RagnarokAngel posted:Just because you don't personally see the value in a well maintained, aesthetically pleasing park does not mean others don't.
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Oct 8, 2016 13:09
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At a purely fiscal level, doesn't that depend on the primary and secondary returns on the park are? Like if it makes people see the city as nicer, which attracts tourists, which attract service businesses, which pay property taxes, it could well be the case with a long established park that your taxes would go up if they just let it go to poo poo. If on the other hand, it's pulling money away from things that have a higher multiplier and are more socially useful, like municipal broadband or free pre-K for deprived areas, then you have an argument for reducing funding.
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Oct 8, 2016 13:15
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Defenestration posted:but M&Ms all taste the same no matter what color is on the outside... I have no idea. We have neither here. We have smarties which I think are M&Ms 
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Oct 8, 2016 13:19
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darthbob88 posted:No, no, that's fine. The issue is with a needlessly baroque park, over-maintained for the purpose of justifying its massive budget and the taxation that feeds it. It's not a government-exclusive problem, given how many private-sector boondoggles are undertaken each year just to make sure that no budget euro goes unspent, but it is especially annoying when it's your taxes at work. My question is how you define when it when it's well maintained vs "needlessly baroque". It can be pretty drat blurry and based on how much someone perceives value in it. Guavanaut posted:If on the other hand, it's pulling money away from things that have a higher multiplier and are more socially useful, like municipal broadband or free pre-K for deprived areas, then you have an argument for reducing funding. If we're going to get into "stealing from more useful institutions " then it gets more complicated because I'm personally more worried about money going to military and police to afford weapons they really don't need. Someone else is going to argue they shouldn't have to pay for schools because they send their kids to private school etc. Perceived value is an arbitrary measurement and specifically why we don't check off where we want our taxes spent on our returns. RagnarokAngel fucked around with this message at 13:33 on Oct 8, 2016 |
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Oct 8, 2016 13:27
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RagnarokAngel posted:My question is how you define when it when it's well maintained vs "needlessly baroque". It can be pretty drat blurry and based on how much someone perceives value in it. It's an example. If you can't imagine a park that has been overspent then just lamp posts made out of actual gold and a lake made out of melted liquid diamond (invented just for this lake)
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Oct 8, 2016 13:30
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Guavanaut posted:At a purely fiscal level, doesn't that depend on the primary and secondary returns on the park are? Zephyrine posted:I have no idea. We have neither here. We have smarties which I think are M&Ms
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Oct 8, 2016 13:32
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Zephyrine posted:I have no idea. We have neither here. We have smarties which I think are M&Ms oh my no
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Oct 8, 2016 13:39
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darthbob88 posted:More or less, just chocolate in a candy shell? Right and the colour seems to have no effect on the flavour. The candy shell tastes like.... licking a rock. A clean rock but a rock still. It's the chocolate you're after.
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Oct 8, 2016 13:51
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Zephyrine posted:I have no idea. We have neither here. We have smarties which I think are M&Ms If you're in Europe, then yeah, I suppose.
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Oct 8, 2016 14:12
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Strudel Man posted:Also, the guy who took the 'loot' picture saw his subject go into the store and take the food, while the 'finders' were apparently surrounded by stuff that was floating in the water. So what you're saying is that the "looters" really are the smart ones. Like, I get that it sucks to have your place of business robbed, but I can't justify getting pissed off at people grabbing food (preferably dry, relatively clean food instead of the poo poo that's been floating in the water for God knows how long) from anywhere they can. You spot someone lugging a TV out of a best buy, fine, they're just taking advantage of the situation. But a grocer isn't going to be able to sell their stock after a flood anyway. Keeshhound fucked around with this message at 14:46 on Oct 8, 2016 |
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Oct 8, 2016 14:44
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Keeshhound posted:So what you're saying is that the "looters" really are the smart ones. It's about sacrifice. If you observe the food until it rots and floats out of the store before eating it then you preserve your honour.
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Oct 8, 2016 15:03
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Why can't these people get worked up over civil forfeiture laws instead of just going  over taxes themselves?
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Keeshhound posted:So what you're saying is that the "looters" really are the smart ones.
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Oct 8, 2016 18:19
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The spin is in    
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Oct 8, 2016 18:41
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Just ignore the fact that someone is suing Trump saying that he sexually assaulted them.
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Oct 8, 2016 18:43
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I've seen a lot of that "more bothered by what Clinton has done than what Trump has said" bullshit on twitter today, as if he'd just made some inappropriate joke. Are people really so dense that they think the problem is him saying he likes to assault women and not the fact that he assaults women?
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Pilchenstein posted:I've seen a lot of that "more bothered by what Clinton has done than what Trump has said" bullshit on twitter today, as if he'd just made some inappropriate joke. Are people really so dense that they think the problem is him saying he likes to assault women and not the fact that he assaults women? I honestly think that a lot of those people haven't actually read/heard what he said. A lot of places are just reporting that Trump "spoke lewdly about women", so they think he must have just said some cheesy joke about tits or something, and liberals are flipping out about it.
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Oct 8, 2016 19:04
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 Speaking of which, this is being passed around on twitter, with the argument of "Obama said it too! Your move, liberals!" Because, of course, the only reason people are mad is because Trump said the word "pussy".
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Oct 8, 2016 19:52
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Crunch Buttsteak posted:
That's just going to tank Obamas chances for a third term.
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Oct 8, 2016 20:44
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Bobbin Threadbare posted:Well, the trouble is that the threat of force exists with or without an organized government, so we might as well set up some accountable institutions to wield that sort of power. A government that cannot use threats, violence, and coercion is a government that will quickly be overrun by forces that can. See: Articles of Confederation
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BuzzFeed News. Now there are two words you don't see together everyday. Not that it's likely to convince anyone who already believes, but the macro creator (or maybe it was the BuzzFeed guys, but I don't want to give the article a hit to check) blends two lines of dialogue together to make it seem like this is a quote straight from Obama's mouth. It isn't. Rather, it's a exchange he overheard that featured in his book, which he read aloud from at the Cambridge Public Library. Dreams of My Father posted:One of the guys sitting nearby must have overheard us, for he leaned over with a sagacious expression on his face. "You all talking about Malcolm, huh? Malcolm tells it like it is, no doubt about it." So, uh, whatever you do, don't vote for Another Guy, I guess. 
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Oct 8, 2016 21:51
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Crunch Buttsteak posted:
There is no difference between a man saying he likes to have sex with women and a man saying he likes to grope women without their consent. It kind of get some into the "two boxes" idea, where any sex outside marriage is equally wrong. http://www.patheos.com/blogs/lovejoyfeminism/2012/08/a-tale-of-two-boxes-contrastin-sexual-ethics.html
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Oct 8, 2016 23:01
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At this point republicans have basically two counters: Nuh-huh and No U
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Jurgan posted:There is no difference between a man saying he likes to have sex with women and a man saying he likes to grope women without their consent. It kind of get some into the "two boxes" idea, where any sex outside marriage is equally wrong. http://www.patheos.com/blogs/lovejoyfeminism/2012/08/a-tale-of-two-boxes-contrastin-sexual-ethics.html The most amazing part is that Trump was saying these things while he was married to Melania, and also saying how he really wanted to gently caress married women. Even by their own standards of "all sex outside marriage is wrong" they should still be against Trump!
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Jurgan posted:There is no difference between a man saying he likes to have sex with women and a man saying he likes to grope women without their consent. It kind of get some into the "two boxes" idea, where any sex outside marriage is equally wrong. http://www.patheos.com/blogs/lovejoyfeminism/2012/08/a-tale-of-two-boxes-contrastin-sexual-ethics.html Obama didn't say this, he's quoting somebody else and if you read the rest of his speech he didn't approve.
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Arglebargle III posted:Obama didn't say this, he's quoting somebody else and if you read the rest of his speech he didn't approve. context doesn't matter at all to the people who make these
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muike posted:context doesn't matter at all to the people who make these Yeah, these are the morons who think the photoshopped pictures of Obama with watermelons dangling from the bone in his nose are real. Plus, if they gave a gently caress about context, then "At this point, what difference does it make?" Wouldn't be such a popular catchphrase.
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Well my mom is back on the "but they're both SO BAD" bandwagon. Because see, they are both liars. Because I told her (I did?) that Hillary took things from the White House and they made HER PUT THEM BACK SO SHE WAS STEALING. And there was a report she saw on Facebook that Hillary lied about her landing in a war zone and that she was shot at BUT THEN PHOTOS OF HER IN THE SAME OUTFIT SURFACED TO A CHEERING CROWD, SO WHICH IS IT, KILLARY? Oh, and Benghazi. And emails. Pointing out that loving Captain America couldn't have saved those four men or that W and lots of his cronies used private email servers means poo poo because she KNOWS Hillary is a liar. But Trump is too. But she refuses to trust either of them. She went a long way from being furious that Trump refused to pay his bills and construction companies went rear end over, to now debating that they are both so bad it doesn't matter. In other words, she'll vote for Trump. At the very least she hasn't lashed out that Hillary couldn't please her own husband. Mostly because I would retort Hillary stayed due to political reasons, and sorry Mom, but Dad divorced YOU after cheating on you for 20 years because his new hot rear end girlfriend wanted to get married.
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Cowslips Warren posted:Well my mom is back on the "but they're both SO BAD" bandwagon. Because see, they are both liars. Because I told her (I did?) that Hillary took things from the White House and they made HER PUT THEM BACK SO SHE WAS STEALING. And there was a report she saw on Facebook that Hillary lied about her landing in a war zone and that she was shot at BUT THEN PHOTOS OF HER IN THE SAME OUTFIT SURFACED TO A CHEERING CROWD, SO WHICH IS IT, KILLARY? You were completely wrong. Captain America could have in fact saved those 4 men. His shield doesn't obey the laws of physics at all.
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GIP conservatives probably look at this thread and think "It's going to be so quiet over there when president Trump sends all those liberals to Guantanamo bay" Just Jackal left.
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GIP generally doesn't like either candidate much but likes Trump a LOT less. The general consensus is that they're mostly sad Biden didn't run.
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gfsincere posted:You were completely wrong. I follows the laws of physics. The physics of vibranium.
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Crunch Buttsteak posted:
I've seen it explained several times already on twitter to trumpies that the problem is not that he said 'pussy' ...Also seen trumpies attempting to lecture sexual assault survivors about consent. (As if a sexual assaulter gets to define what consent is.) It went about as well as you would expect.
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A friend's jackass step-brother posted up a meme today that read something like, "In Islam, you die for your God. In my faith my God died for me." And I was so tempted to touch the poop and inform him that Muslims, Jews and Christians all worship the same God, the God of Abraham. That is why the three of them are called the Abrahamic religions. And also that Christian belief states that Jesus was the son of God, not God themselves. But I resisted and did not do it. Instead I blocked him.
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