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at the date posted:SNL makes a legitimate point that maybe the Hillary camp ought to pull some punches to keep Trump in the race and hurting the GOP candidates down-ticket. I may have skipped over it, but was the audio tape originally planned to be released by the Clinton campaign or was it someone else? I know it was released early by a reporter, but I can't remember who originally had it, nor who is supposed to be releasing the two new bits.
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MullardEL34 posted:My problem with Cigarette taxes is that some municipalities go so absolutely crazy with them for ideological reasons that they actually encourage smuggling and organized crime. Someone did a study a few years ago and came to the conclusion that something like 60% of the Cigarettes sold in NYC carried fake tax stamps and were smuggled from out of state. For every smuggled pack sold, NYC lost it's entire potential tax earning. Sin taxes are okay, but there has to be a point when you have to stop and think, "we don't live in a walled city, things can come in from outside. Does taxing this legal product at a rate drastically above neighboring cities/states actually encourage black market activity or cause us to lose revenue on this product due to smuggling and enforcement? Does it fund criminal enterprise?" Hm yes, this is entirely New Yorks fault. I buy all my cigarettes 200 miles off the coast so they are tax free. It's pretty sweet when I hit the mainland.
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dear america thank you very much for the unprecedented comedy that is unfolding yours, new zealand
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WAR CRIME SYNDICAT posted:I may have skipped over it, but was the audio tape originally planned to be released by the Clinton campaign or was it someone else? I know it was released early by a reporter, but I can't remember who originally had it, nor who is supposed to be releasing the two new bits. NBC was gonna drop it on Monday but Washington Post picked up on it and scooped the story from them. https://www.washingtonpost.com/life...3b66_story.html edit: oh man the comments on that artice 
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MullardEL34 posted:My problem with Cigarette taxes is that some municipalities go so absolutely crazy with them for ideological reasons that they actually encourage smuggling and organized crime. Someone did a study a few years ago and came to the conclusion that something like 60% of the Cigarettes sold in NYC carried fake tax stamps and were smuggled from out of state. For every smuggled pack sold, NYC lost it's entire potential tax earning. Sin taxes are okay, but there has to be a point when you have to stop and think, "we don't live in a walled city, things can come in from outside. Does taxing this legal product at a rate drastically above neighboring cities/states actually encourage black market activity or cause us to lose revenue on this product due to smuggling and enforcement? Does it fund criminal enterprise?" Sin taxes often end up a ridiculous money grab by the state. Take Australia for example, a pack of cigs costs $30. Not worth it. So people often go for chop chop or think they may as well smoke weed, which is illegal. So how many people might have their life ruined in the short term by being caught with weed or dealing with illegal tobacco suppliers when they otherwise wouldn't have if cigs cost $15. On top of that the government gets addicted to the money. They raise so much they get to spend on non-health related government costs they are going to be hosed in their finances when all the smokers die or switch to illegal sources, they are being too greedy. Booze is also extremely highly taxed here, you can't get a bottle of whisky under $30, or a carton of beer for under $40 (except cheap euro imports that are almost undrinkable, anything decent and/or even cheap lovely domestic is over $40). But here's the thing, home distillation is legal here (up to 5L of wash I think) and of course home brew is legal too. You can walk into a home brew store and buy a small still under 5L, or buy a legal reflux system to bolt onto your own 30L pot and ignore the 5l rule for spirits and of course brew your own beer. But the government keeps raising these sin taxes for easy money and ignores the fact that some people will want to smoke and drink and if you push them too far they'll leave the tax system entirely and perhaps do more harm to themselves or society than they would have done if taxes were kept a moderate %.
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Can someone sum up what's been happening I'm lost
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Nostalgia4Dicks posted:Can someone sum up what's been happening I'm lost taxation is slavery
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ElMaligno posted:taxation is slavery The Class Six was always my most used military benefit.
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Dead Reckoning posted:
Our county was literally founded as a republic run by rich white males that would tell poor people and minoritiies what they should be doing. Why do you hate America
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Yeah, so why is it OK to be a fatty or a smoker if you're rich? Do you really think the Trumps and Romneys are paying for all their externalities themselves? Plenty of behaviors have increased healthcare costs. Drinking. Driving instead of walking. Sleeping around. Should we means test all those too? Here's my idea: Poors have to take the AFPFT every six months, and those that fail get a flag on their EBT card that keeps them from buying butter, whole milk, cookies, soda, and other unhealthy foods.
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Stern also asked Trump, "Have you had a black women in bed?" "Well, it depends on what your definition of black is," responded Trump. "Interesting. I like this discussion. His bed is a rainbow," Stern said. "The rainbow coalition, as Rev. Jesse would say," Trump said.
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VikingSkull posted:Stern also asked Trump, "Have you had a black women in bed?" LOOOOOOOOOOL
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So Trump is direct-linking a Breitbart Juanita Broaddrick interview on his Twitter account. Doesn't really matter because he's getting killed in the batch of state polls, pre-tape, already. But here's a recap of the week. https://twitter.com/TheFix/status/785105829854871553
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Oct 9, 2016 15:02
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Abraham Lincoln probably had a worse week
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Giuliani is on all the Sunday shows. Jake Tapper isn't buying his poo poo. https://twitter.com/CNNSotu/status/785109693031002112
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Oct 9, 2016 15:13
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Let he who has not grabbed a woman by the pussy cast the first stone.
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like, he's not wrong, but it's the same as Hitler calling Hess a hypocrite
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VikingSkull posted:like, he's not wrong, but it's the same as Hitler calling Hess a hypocrite I think it's more like the captain of the Titanic trying to convince people to stay on the ship after hitting the iceberg because some of those who try and escape drown.
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Full list. https://twitter.com/BraddJaffy/status/785128223348813824
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Sometimes (not often mind you) D&D experiences a genuine moment of humorskylined! posted:What the gently caress does a Hillary victory speech even sound like at this point
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VikingSkull posted:Abraham Lincoln probably had a worse week . Nixon, he had a few bad weeks. He's probably laughing his rear end off at this though,
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This dumb motherfucker is doing everything he can to hand more than just the presidential elections to the democrats.
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https://twitter.com/jmartNYT/status/785129773337088004 https://twitter.com/jmartNYT/status/785130115168624645 If true, this is unprecedented 
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holocaust bloopers posted:This dumb motherfucker is doing everything he can to hand more than just the presidential elections to the democrats. IT GETS WORSE IT'S NOT ENDING HAIL SATAN edit: beaten by 2spooky Ok here's a good tweet https://twitter.com/BenjySarlin/status/785132995434786816 facialimpediment fucked around with this message at 16:01 on Oct 9, 2016 |
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Dead Reckoning posted:
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holocaust bloopers posted:I can't wait for Clinton to not even bring up everything from the past two days because she doesn't have to. Trump will self-sabotage himself. Might be unavoidable actually. Clinton is getting the first question and it'll probably be on the tape. https://twitter.com/brianstelter/status/785132675371769857 Edit: Holy moly \/\/\/
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Libertarians are only tolerable if their idea of it stays right at "I recognize the State and Federal governments have a responsibility to govern in such a way that society rather than the individual is the object of their attention, however, we maintain that personal freedoms are limitless in our own homes as long as they endanger no one else's life or liberty" i.e. I'll gently caress, eat, drink and smoke whatever I'd like to, thanks
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holocaust bloopers posted:This dumb motherfucker is doing everything he can to hand more than just the presidential elections to the democrats. Godamn the hyperbole used these days needs to loving stop. "You're going to ruin America!" "It's going to be a police state and they're going to repeal all amendments!" Etc etc. It's so loving stupid. Even if someone you disagree with gets elected, chances are poo poo is not gonna change on a grand scale. Your day to day is going to be pretty much the same.
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facialimpediment posted:Deadly loving serious, there hasn't been anything in the past few hours except for SNL. They've been repainting him and feeding his hair.
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I remember the days of the facebook rants about obama going door to door with the UN and taking all the guns. And something about the anti christ And all the other garbage.
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Pesticide20 posted:I think it's more like the captain of the Titanic trying to convince people to stay on the ship after hitting the iceberg because some of those who try and escape drown. Or SNCOs trying to convince people to stay in because it's scary outside.
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VikingSkull posted:everyone thinks Trump would launch nukes and I'm over here like "first military coup in US history" Alex Haig was ready to overthrow Nixon if he tried to use any nukes. He flat out told the joint chiefs that if Nixon called in any nuclear strike their first priority was to call him so he could deal with Nixon.
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VikingSkull posted:everyone thinks Trump would launch nukes and I'm over here like "first military coup in US history" and over here I'm all like uhhhhhhh yeah, like, I think I'd rather elect Hillary than risk either nuclear war or a military coup.
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