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Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

Slava Ukrayini

Clapping Larry
ON THIS DAY! October 1st to October 6th Edition


October 1

Fighting in Stalingrad continues, with losses mounting for both the Germans and Russians. Gains are measured in yards, and the entire city is one giant death trap. The Germans fail to capture Grozny, and heavy fighting continues between Novorossiysk and Tuapse.


October 2

US troops occupy Funafuti atoll, near the Gilbert Islands. The British occupy southern Madagascar.


October 3

Army Group A continues towards Grozny. Russian troops are making gains at Stalingrad, although at a heavy cost.


October 4

Australians advance along the Port Moresby - Kokoda trail, while US troops move along Jaure.


October 5

American aircraft, launched from carriers, bomb Japanese installations on Bougainville Island.


October 6

General Montgomery begins preparations for an offensive in North Africa. Malgobek, west of Grozny, is captured by advancing German troops; the city is an important oil-producing centre. The USSR and USA sign an agreement to send Russia 4,400,000 tons of supplies, most by sea directly to the USSR, with the rest being moved through Iran.

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Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

Slava Ukrayini

Clapping Larry
Welp, might as well do today for a pagesnipe.


October 7

Marines push the Japanese further away from Henderson Field. They reach the mouth of the Matanikau river. Allied troops in New Guinea prepare for a counter-offensive.

Grey Hunter
Oct 17, 2007

Hero of the soviet union.
Accidental destroyer of planets






Dammit.



Good morning Lunga! Lets see if these big boys can bring out a flattop.



Here you can see the invasion fleets for both Lunga and Munda coming in – I'm going on a mini-offensive ladies and gents!







I have to assume these guys are straight up surrendering to us at this point.







Look! Battleships!
This may not be the best use for them, but it's some use for the moneysinks!

Velius
Feb 27, 2001
That might be the least effective battleships bombardment I've ever seen. One thing I notice is you have no spotting aircraft, not sure what else is going on.

Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

Slava Ukrayini

Clapping Larry

Velius posted:

That might be the least effective battleships bombardment I've ever seen. One thing I notice is you have no spotting aircraft, not sure what else is going on.

Night Naval Bombardment

Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

Slava Ukrayini

Clapping Larry
October 08, 1942

The American advance at Matanikau in Guadalcanal is rained out, although this doesn't prevent everything as fighting still occurs. Allied intelligence intercepts Japanese transmissions indicating that the Japanese intend to counter-attack soon, and in large numbers.

Grey Hunter
Oct 17, 2007

Hero of the soviet union.
Accidental destroyer of planets






Munda cops the bombardment today. I'm sure I put some cruisers in that task force.



The 821st Engineer Aviation battalion is about to have a bad day.



The Auzzies have built up their forces in Port Moresby, and are now trying to shift us from the base.







Allied reinforcements arrive here, and we are once again on the back foot. Oh well.







I may have over-egged the Munda assault, and we may have taken more losses in the invasion due to accidents than we will to enemy fire. That said, its training for the troops!

Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

Slava Ukrayini

Clapping Larry
October 9

Plenty of action today!

Guadalcanal sees the Marines and Japanese clash again, at Matanikau, leaving some 700 Japanese dead and 190 dead and wounded US soldiers.

Today marks the first day that the Soviets return to a "single command" structure within the army, allowing military officers to have the same responsibilities as those in other armies. Political commissars are still part of army units, but "all responsible decisions" are taken solely by the commanding officer.

Over 100 bombers of the USAAF are sent on a raid on the production plants at Lille, in France. Slightly above 100 German fighters are claimed destroyed, probables, or damaged. The Luftwaffe loses only two Fw-190s because of this raid. The Americans would end up losing 6 bombers to all causes, and have another 40+ reported damaged.

goatface
Dec 5, 2007

I had a video of that when I was about 6.

I remember it being shit.


Grimey Drawer
Those men appear to be attempting an amphibious landing during a thunderstorm. They're certainly ballsy.

Grey Hunter
Oct 17, 2007

Hero of the soviet union.
Accidental destroyer of planets






B17'd begin to visit Koepang again.



A little bit of overkill methinks.







British and Indian forced reach Akyab again, but not in enough force to take the base, and I have many more troops incoming.







We took another base! The offensive is going well!

CannonFodder
Jan 26, 2001

Passion’s Wrench
You sent 25k troops* to the Guadalcanal area? You're mad.


over 1k were lost unloading from the ships.

RA Rx
Mar 24, 2016

CannonFodder posted:

You sent 25k troops* to the Guadalcanal area? You're mad.


over 1k were lost unloading from the ships.

It was mostly disabled squads, but then again it's not like Japan has functionally infinite supplies.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat
He should have functionally unlimited manpower and light arms...

... but not the boats on which those get to Guadalcanal.

Veloxyll
May 3, 2011

Fuck you say?!

He just wanted to avoid a disaster like last LP

RA Rx
Mar 24, 2016

Wait, what, Japan has functionally unlimited supplies?? Is that realistic?

So it's just that their logistical transport capacity isn't good enough?

Makes no difference as you say though, outside of Japan and China, without a land connection to all those home island and Manchurian factories.

Velius
Feb 27, 2001
Japan does not have infinite supply. Quite the opposite. Supply gets burned from fighting, flying planes, wastage, and building/upgrading factories. Most games that make it to '45 end with Japan eventually running out of supply and then folding very quickly.

Proust Malone
Apr 4, 2008

Veloxyll posted:

He just wanted to avoid a disaster like last LP

I vaguely remember this, but can someone point me to this?

Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

Slava Ukrayini

Clapping Larry
October 10, 1942

Guadalcanal - In preparation for a Japanese counter-attack, US Marines set up defensive positions on the east bank of the Matanikau river.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat

Velius posted:

Japan does not have infinite supply. Quite the opposite. Supply gets burned from fighting, flying planes, wastage, and building/upgrading factories. Most games that make it to '45 end with Japan eventually running out of supply and then folding very quickly.

There's a difference between supplies, manpower and armaments. Losing men like Grey did will cause an increased consumption of the latter two, and thus in turn induce the consumption of former, but technically as long as supplies are well managed on other fronts, land casualties can be sustained because you will always have more armaments and manpower than you need.

I vaguely remember that somebody on the official forums calculated that it's possible to replace more casualties with the Japanese manpower generation rates than there were men in historical Japan.

alex314
Nov 22, 2007

So that's how IJA could have suffered millions of casualties in allied LP and still fight. With a game so detailed it's weird there's no impact to your industry from drafting everyone capable of holding a rifle.

Veloxyll
May 3, 2011

Fuck you say?!

Ron Jeremy posted:

I vaguely remember this, but can someone point me to this?

Off memory it was in like '44. Grey was conducting a landing on Iwo Jima or something. And landed his non-combat support troop fleet FIRST. Who instantly had a bad time. And then he didn't have the supplies/troops to follow through with the assault after that debacle so ended up losing the whole force.

There was also the time when his carrier air group had no CAP set and he lost two Fleet Carriers to Kamikazes.

There are a fair number of concessions to the Japanese in the modelling to make things more fun for them. (Casualties that are supplies recoverable are assumed to be wounded soldiers, so it could be a case of them getting healed on the front lines in some cases.)

lenoon
Jan 7, 2010

Iwo wasn't the noncombatants first, it was .... it was big. And bad. You weren't there man, you don't know... no one came back from Iwo. No one came back!

You don't know, man! You weren't there!

lenoon fucked around with this message at 11:33 on Oct 10, 2016

Grey Hunter
Oct 17, 2007

Hero of the soviet union.
Accidental destroyer of planets
On the plus side, these men will be ready for the invasion of New Caledonia!

A Festivus Miracle
Dec 19, 2012

I have come to discourse on the profound inequities of the American political system.

Don't forget that times many times that Grey had battleships get sunk by land-air attacks.

Saros
Dec 29, 2009

Its almost like we're a Bureaucracy, in space!

I set sail for the Planet of Lab Requisitions!!

alex314 posted:

So that's how IJA could have suffered millions of casualties in allied LP and still fight. With a game so detailed it's weird there's no impact to your industry from drafting everyone capable of holding a rifle.

It's totally possible to run out your manpower and this has very negative effects on your industry and other things as well as stopping you expanding factories. I dunno about the total casualty numbers from the other LP but in-game casualty numbers aren't KIA's, they are generally thought to include all types of 'casualty' and a good number of them will be able to return to fight after some time.

Grey Hunter
Oct 17, 2007

Hero of the soviet union.
Accidental destroyer of planets






We land a Lunga.



Our planes switch targets.



Going after Port Moresby is a bad idea.



They go after our troops there as well.







Another wave of Allies troops arrive, but I think we can hold until our own reinforcements arrive.







That's a lot of Aircraft losses for forgetting we just took their set target!

Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

Slava Ukrayini

Clapping Larry
October 11, 1942

After 51 days of continuous fighting, Stalingrad experiences a relatively calm day.

Grey Hunter
Oct 17, 2007

Hero of the soviet union.
Accidental destroyer of planets






After a very boring day, we finally get to the attack on Lunga! I'll try a shock attack tomorrow.



We are forced from Port Moresby with heavy losses. I'm surprised its taken them this long. At least we've tied down a large number of Allied troops here.







I need those other troops to get a move on!







Well, the Allies are starting to push around the edges of my empire, but nothing to much of a threat yet. Most of the place they have troops I have good air protection.



We confirm a very old kill.

OpenlyEvilJello
Dec 28, 2009

Today’s historical warship losses are, at long last, on point. Shortly before midnight on 11 October 1942, a patrolling American force consisting of four cruisers (San Francisco, Boise, Salt Lake City, and Helena) and five destroyers (Farenholt, Duncan, Buchanan, McCalla, and Laffey) under Rear Admiral Normal Scott intercepted three Japanese cruisers (Aoba, Kinugasa, and Furutaka) and two destroyers (Fubuki and Hatsuyuki) under Rear Admiral Aritomo Goto as well as the seaplane tenders Nisshin and Chitose and their escorting destroyers in the Slot. Goto’s objective was to bombard Henderson Field on Guadalcanal, while the seaplane tenders formed the core of a Tokyo Express supply run to the beleaguered Japanese ground forces.

In contrast to previous night battles around Guadalcanal, Scott made reasonable use of his radar (although, curiously, his flagship San Francisco was not outfitted with the latest SG radar) which, combined with earlier aerial reconnaissance alerting him to the presence of the Japanese force, enabled him to get the drop on Goto. Unfortunately for the Americans, their relative lack of night-fighting experience prevented a clean opening engagement, as there was some confusion as to which blips were which ships; still, the element of surprise told and the Japanese cruisers were raked by fire before they could respond. Furutaka was burning within minutes and, struck by a torpedo, began to sink shortly thereafter, joined by Fubuki. As Goto’s remaining ships retreated, Duncan, caught between the two forces, was hit by both sides and had to be abandoned after catching fire.

At the end of the day, Cape Esperance was a welcome tactical victory for the USN after the humiliating defeat at Savo Island: a cruiser and destroyer sunk for only a destroyer and damage to Boise. But the Tokyo Express force escaped the night battle unscathed and successfully completed its mission.

Grey Hunter
Oct 17, 2007

Hero of the soviet union.
Accidental destroyer of planets






We bombard Lunga again.



Only numbers and terrain are allowing them to hold out.







We trade seven planes and two noted pilots for a single torpedo hit.







Lunga is a harder nut to crack than I expected. I may have to rest the troops up for a few days before trying again.



Another old kill is confirmed.

Jonny Nox
Apr 26, 2008




Normal Scott sounds like the name of a Tim Schaefer character.

OpenlyEvilJello
Dec 28, 2009

Jonny Nox posted:

Normal Scott sounds like the name of a Tim Schaefer character.

Fuckin' hell, that's a typo. Norman Scott (just loving mistyped it again).

Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

Slava Ukrayini

Clapping Larry
October 12, 1942


OpenlyEvilJello posted:

Today’s historical warship losses are, at long last, on point. Shortly before midnight on 11 October 1942, a patrolling American force consisting of four cruisers (San Francisco, Boise, Salt Lake City, and Helena) and five destroyers (Farenholt, Duncan, Buchanan, McCalla, and Laffey) under Rear Admiral Normal Scott intercepted three Japanese cruisers (Aoba, Kinugasa, and Furutaka) and two destroyers (Fubuki and Hatsuyuki) under Rear Admiral Aritomo Goto as well as the seaplane tenders Nisshin and Chitose and their escorting destroyers in the Slot. Goto’s objective was to bombard Henderson Field on Guadalcanal, while the seaplane tenders formed the core of a Tokyo Express supply run to the beleaguered Japanese ground forces.

In contrast to previous night battles around Guadalcanal, Scott made reasonable use of his radar (although, curiously, his flagship San Francisco was not outfitted with the latest SG radar) which, combined with earlier aerial reconnaissance alerting him to the presence of the Japanese force, enabled him to get the drop on Goto. Unfortunately for the Americans, their relative lack of night-fighting experience prevented a clean opening engagement, as there was some confusion as to which blips were which ships; still, the element of surprise told and the Japanese cruisers were raked by fire before they could respond. Furutaka was burning within minutes and, struck by a torpedo, began to sink shortly thereafter, joined by Fubuki. As Goto’s remaining ships retreated, Duncan, caught between the two forces, was hit by both sides and had to be abandoned after catching fire.

At the end of the day, Cape Esperance was a welcome tactical victory for the USN after the humiliating defeat at Savo Island: a cruiser and destroyer sunk for only a destroyer and damage to Boise. But the Tokyo Express force escaped the night battle unscathed and successfully completed its mission.

Despite this loss*, Japanese transports are able to land 800 men and heavy materiel at Guadalcanal. Henderson Field is also bombed by large Japanese air formations which puts it out of action, destroying aircraft and valuable supplies.

*Sailors who survived the battle, but who were stranded in the waters, refused to be picked up by American ships, preferring to be devoured by the sharks that infested the waters instead.



October 13, 1942

Henderson is bombed and shelled by Japanese guns landed the previous day.

Grey Hunter
Oct 17, 2007

Hero of the soviet union.
Accidental destroyer of planets

OpenlyEvilJello posted:

Fuckin' hell, that's a typo. Norman Scott (just loving mistyped it again).

Honestly, for a second there I was going to go scouring my posts for this typo.....

OpenlyEvilJello
Dec 28, 2009

The day after the Battle of Cape Esperance, 12 October 1942, saw two destroyers of the Tokyo Express escort (Murakumo and Natsugumo) sunk by USN and USMC aircraft based out of Henderson Field.

Grey Hunter
Oct 17, 2007

Hero of the soviet union.
Accidental destroyer of planets






Troops are heading to help tip the balance at Milne bay, but they come under Banshee attack.



The damaged ship is an easy target for the afternoon attack.







We beat on another minor force.







I'm calling off the forces heading to Milne bay, I don't think they will be enough to make any difference and I don't want to throw any more ships away needlessly.



My first ship loss of the month.

RA Rx
Mar 24, 2016

Losses have really gone down.

Grey is doing a lot bettet than the last two games, all told, despite the higher difficulty from the first game!

Ikonoklast
Nov 16, 2007

A beacon for the liars and blind.
And it´s ramping up to be a pretty similar outcome as the original Japanese Guadalcanal campaign, for now atleast. Maybe the LP has gone over into historical reenactment?

Grey Hunter
Oct 17, 2007

Hero of the soviet union.
Accidental destroyer of planets

RA Rx posted:

Losses have really gone down.

Grey is doing a lot bettet than the last two games, all told, despite the higher difficulty from the first game!

Yeah, I got cocky and overextended a bit in Burma and at Port Morsby, but I think I've stabilized those fronts for now.

My main worry is the next attack. I will be facing land based bombers - most likely dive and torpedo types. but if I can get enough troops ashore, I can take the base and its worth a good 1000 points to me. I can then command the supply lines from Pearl to Austalia.

I expect to take losses - maybe even a couple of carriers going in, but I can't just hold where I am, so I need to push a major engagement if possible. This is why I'm not rushing to attack - I need to build up my airfields and try and take out their airfields, but the building is going slowly, so I have to keep pushing back the invasion date - hence the Guadalcanal action.

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Drone
Aug 22, 2003

Incredible machine
:smug:


What you need is a Decisive Battle :eng99:

How many turns ahead are in your buffer? I'm still astounded that you can manage not only this, but various other games too, while also having a baby at home.

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