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my dad: Oct 17, 2012; this shall be humorous

SeanBeansShako posted:

I say 7TP.

We need to talk more about Polish armour.

So, what was the penetration-resistance of Rokossowski's medal-mail? :v:

(Yeah, I'm curious about these, too)

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Nebakenezzer: Sep 13, 2005; The Mote in God's Eye

Ensign Expendable posted:

As most of you know, I translate articles written for the World of Tanks website (and more recently, warspot). Since you can never have too much tankchat, I figured I'd let you guys pick the queue and not just the WoT thread.

Already translated

Cool!

# ? Oct 9, 2016 00:25

Fangz: Jul 5, 2007; Oh I see! This must be the Bad Opinion Zone!

I'd love to hear about the Japanese tanks. Also about the 37 mm Pak, the little gun that everyone forgot about. (I assume it did more than 'fail to penetrate a KV1')

Fangz fucked around with this message at 01:28 on Oct 9, 2016

# ? Oct 9, 2016 00:49

Ensign Expendable: Nov 11, 2008; Lager beer is proof that god loves us; Pillbug

The 3.7 cm Pak lit a fire under everyone's rear end when it turned out it could penetrate any tank that existed from an obscene distance during the Spanish Civil War. It's a seriously underrated gun.

# ? Oct 9, 2016 03:03

Rodrigo Diaz: Apr 16, 2007; Knights who are at the wars eat their bread in sorrow;
their ease is weariness and sweat;
they have one good day after many bad

Fuligin posted:

I'm no expert, but-
According to Peter Brown in Late Antiquity the Third Century Crisis provoked a massive reorganization of the Roman military on basically every level. Unwieldy legions get broken up into smaller, rapid response detachments of heavy cavalry ready to immediately punish attacks across the limes and the "dead wood" of traditional aristocratic commanders is replaced by an "artisanal well of talent" drawn from provincial professional soldiers, often of very humble birth. The army effectively doubles in size, supported by an enormous increase in taxes. The emperor actually becomes a more universal and more revered symbol of state order since he's no longer necessarily attached to Rome, and is instead roving across the empire's borders perpetually putting out fires and adjudicating provincial affairs.
One consequence is that the Roman identity becomes steadily divorced from the city itself (which develops an important symbolic role instead as the "eternal city") and becomes claimed by the empire as a whole; people of all sorts of faiths and ethnicities across its length and breadth start considering themselves to be Romans proper and the empire itself just becomes called "Rome Land," Romania. One of my favorite products of this era is a brevium prepared for poorly educated provincials moving into high ranks of the military; it compresses all of Roman history from the founding of the city into about ten pages just so they have an idea of what they're fighting for.

This is exactly what I was looking for and also rules in many ways. Gimme more! More!!

# ? Oct 9, 2016 03:39

Cyrano4747: Sep 25, 2006; Yes, I know I'm old, get off my fucking lawn so I can yell at these clouds.

Ensign Expendable posted:

The 3.7 cm Pak lit a fire under everyone's rear end when it turned out it could penetrate any tank that existed from an obscene distance during the Spanish Civil War. It's a seriously underrated gun.

Yeah there are reasons that so many were kicking around. It basically gave birth to modern AT gun doctrine.

edit: plus even after it was obsolete for killing things from the front it was still a handy as gently caress little gun that could kill a lot of poo poo from an ambush position

# ? Oct 9, 2016 03:48

Phanatic: Mar 13, 2007; Please don't forget that I am an extremely racist idiot who also has terrible opinions about the Culture series.

So I just went to a bar for dinner and the lady sitting next to me was there celebrating her 95th birthday with her son. She was a facilitator for B-29 parts shipments during the war, her dead husband was a B-29 pilot who flew bombing missions during Operation Matterhorn, and they were introduced to each other by Paul Tibbets. Oh and her daughter works for JP Morgan and had a big hand in setting up the Bank of Iraq post-invasion.

You can't make that poo poo up.

# ? Oct 9, 2016 04:53

Nenonen: Oct 22, 2009; Mulla on aina kolkyt donaa taskussa

Cyrano4747 posted:

Yeah there are reasons that so many were kicking around. It basically gave birth to modern AT gun doctrine.

edit: plus even after it was obsolete for killing things from the front it was still a handy as gently caress little gun that could kill a lot of poo poo from an ambush position

Plus you could turn it into a supersized muzzleloader to kill anything at ambush ranges - not awfully practical and it became obsolete real quick thanks to better infantry at weapons, but still cool. Here being fitted on a 3.7cm FlaK which I assume is preparing to shoot down a Flying Fortress.

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# ? Oct 9, 2016 06:51

Nenonen: Oct 22, 2009; Mulla on aina kolkyt donaa taskussa

"hay, did someone call for a stug?? well dey were busy so I came to stand in for them. trust me i know what I'm doing"

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# ? Oct 9, 2016 06:57

Darkman Fanpage: Jul 4, 2012

Nenonen posted:

"hay, did someone call for a stug?? well dey were busy so I came to stand in for them. trust me i know what I'm doing"

Probably worked better than most Italian tanks.

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SlothfulCobra: Mar 27, 2011

Oh come on, that's almost exactly an Ork vehicle.

# ? Oct 9, 2016 07:26

A Festivus Miracle: Dec 19, 2012; I have come to discourse on the profound inequities of the American political system.

So, I was looking through some battleship history, trying to understand how these ships were classified and how they worked and what they were designed for, when I came across the USS Indiana (BB-1).

Looking at this image of her, several things stood out to me:

1. This thing would sink in anything more than a really minor storm, but since she was designed for coast defence, it doesn't really matter.
2. Those lifeboats. The way the batteries are set up, the lifeboats would be blown to poo poo by the gun blasts from the big guns, or by the tertiary turrets firing. How were lifeboats handled on these hilariously small and cramped early US BB designs?

# ? Oct 9, 2016 07:59

SeanBeansShako: Nov 20, 2009; Now the Drums beat up again,
For all true Soldier Gentlemen.

I imagine when the enemy was sighted they were brought onto the deck and tied down in a designated safe zone like they've always done with furniture and other objects on ships.

These ships engage in pretty long distant gunfire now and would have plenty of time to get that stuff sorted before engaging the enemy.

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xthetenth: Dec 30, 2012; Mario wasn't sure if this Jeb guy was a good influence on Yoshi.

SeanBeansShako posted:

I imagine when the enemy was sighted they were brought onto the deck and tied down in a designated safe zone like they've always done with furniture and other objects on ships.

These ships engage in pretty long distant gunfire now and would have plenty of time to get that stuff sorted before engaging the enemy.

The Indiana was well before the fad for torpedoes on battleships really got going when both torpedoes and guns could reach out to the astounding range of 3000 yards.

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OwlFancier: Aug 22, 2013

I think some of them came up with the novel idea of storing the lifeboats on the turrets.

USS Cleveland

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Arquinsiel: Jun 1, 2006; "There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

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SlothfulCobra posted:

Oh come on, that's almost exactly an Ork vehicle.

Germans iz Orkz. Iz bin sayin dis fed YEARZ :orkz:

# ? Oct 9, 2016 15:28

Yvonmukluk: Oct 10, 2012; Everything is Sinister

SlothfulCobra posted:

Jerry was a titan with jungle cats that attacked on his word, but Tommy fought him off until at the last moment some guy named Joe Sherman came in to help.

John Frum, surely?

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Vincent Van Goatse: Nov 8, 2006; Enjoy every sandwich.; Smellrose

I wonder if anyone named Sherman ever crewed a Sherman tank.

# ? Oct 9, 2016 16:10

JnnyThndrs: May 29, 2001; HERE ARE THE FUCKING TOWELS

OwlFancier posted:

I think some of them came up with the novel idea of storing the lifeboats on the turrets.

USS Cleveland

Those look like inflatable or semi-inflatable lifeboats, though - the ancient wooden lifeboats that we saw earlier are goddamn heavy.

Now -I'm- wondering what they did with them... :iiam:

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Vincent Van Goatse: Nov 8, 2006; Enjoy every sandwich.; Smellrose

Those are Carley floats.

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OwlFancier: Aug 22, 2013

The Kaiser class ships also have racks on top of the turrets which I think are for proper wooden lifeboats but I can't find any pictures of them, only the racks, and I don't want to cite world of warships as a source.

E: though my attempts to find an image of it turned some some... interesting images lacking context:

OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 20:21 on Oct 9, 2016

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Hogge Wild: Aug 21, 2012; by FactsAreUseless; Pillbug

Ensign Expendable posted:

Renault R35 in German service

# ? Oct 9, 2016 20:32

Hogge Wild: Aug 21, 2012; by FactsAreUseless; Pillbug

Fangz posted:

There's disadvantages to slings. The effective range is limited, accuracy requires a lot of training (recall that David smacking Goliath in the forehead was considered a miraculous feat of skill), a slinger needs space to work, and has difficulty shooting over the head of the man in front of him. It's also not easy to make use of arrow slits in fortifications.

Slings had better ranges than bows during those time.

# ? Oct 9, 2016 20:34

Hogge Wild: Aug 21, 2012; by FactsAreUseless; Pillbug

gradenko_2000 posted:

Thank you by the way to everyone who answered my WW1 question yesterday, I have a better idea of how the artillery interaction with infantry and breakthroughs works now.

I'm reading The Eastern Front by Norman Stone and it's a little depressing how hopeful it all sounds for the Tsarist army after the Brusilov Offensive, only for most of the gains to have been pissed away by the central and northern front commanders still being incompetent despite Brusilov's relative brilliance, followed up by Romania joining the Entente, getting beat up terribly, then looted to keep the Central Powers going just that much longer.

Who were the masterminds behind Romania joining the Entente?

# ? Oct 9, 2016 20:35

Nebakenezzer: Sep 13, 2005; The Mote in God's Eye

OwlFancier posted:

The Kaiser class ships also have racks on top of the turrets which I think are for proper wooden lifeboats but I can't find any pictures of them, only the racks, and I don't want to cite world of warships as a source.

E: though my attempts to find an image of it turned some some... interesting images lacking context:

Battlestar Dreadnoughtica?

# ? Oct 9, 2016 23:19

FastestGunAlive: Apr 7, 2010; Dancing palm tree.

Macross concept art looking good

# ? Oct 9, 2016 23:37

dublish: Oct 31, 2011

I guess that's one way to do simultaneous launch and recovery.

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Corsair Pool Boy: Dec 17, 2004; College Slice

OwlFancier posted:

The Kaiser class ships also have racks on top of the turrets which I think are for proper wooden lifeboats but I can't find any pictures of them, only the racks, and I don't want to cite world of warships as a source.

E: though my attempts to find an image of it turned some some... interesting images lacking context:

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Vincent Van Goatse: Nov 8, 2006; Enjoy every sandwich.; Smellrose

I'm the completely unnecessary and useless second bridge.

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Panzeh: Nov 27, 2006; "..The high ground"

As it turns out, it's very easy to make a warship in mspaint.

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bewbies: Sep 23, 2003; Fun Shoe

How much would that thing weigh

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Taerkar: Dec 7, 2002; kind of into it, really

I just noticed that thing has 6 wing turrets below the main deck.

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OwlFancier: Aug 22, 2013

I'm the on-again off-again use of superfiring positioning on the main turrets.

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LeadSled: Jan 7, 2008

All I know is that I better be able to build that in Rule the Waves 2.

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Pornographic Memory: Dec 17, 2008

could you even launch/recover planes while firing your guns?

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OwlFancier: Aug 22, 2013

Pornographic Memory posted:

could you even launch/recover planes while firing your guns?

Sure you can, just a bit of crosswind!

In actuality no you couldn't even have things on the flight deck while firing those guns, you'd be lucky if the deck itself even survived intact.

Also the forward lift appears to be sticking out past the suspended portion of the flight deck so I think that's just painted on.

OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 03:33 on Oct 10, 2016

# ? Oct 10, 2016 03:31

Schenck v. U.S.: Sep 8, 2010

ALL-PRO SEXMAN posted:

I'm the completely unnecessary and useless second bridge.

Well you know it probably doesn't maneuver very well and it would be extremely hard to turn it around in confined waters without running it aground. For example the entire Indian Ocean. It probably just has two sets of screws at either end, like a freight train with forward and rear locomotives, and if they need to turn around everybody just moves from the forward bridge to the aft bridge.

# ? Oct 10, 2016 03:48

FrozenVent: May 1, 2009; The Boeing 737-200QC is the undisputed workhorse of the skies.

EvanSchenck posted:

Well you know it probably doesn't maneuver very well and it would be extremely hard to turn it around in confined waters without running it aground. For example the entire Indian Ocean. It probably just has two sets of screws at either end, like a freight train with forward and rear locomotives, and if they need to turn around everybody just moves from the forward bridge to the aft bridge.

There are ferries that work that way.

Most modern ships with that kind of configuration just have swivel chairs on the bridge though.

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bewbies: Sep 23, 2003; Fun Shoe

seriously how much does it weigh?

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Schenck v. U.S.: Sep 8, 2010

bewbies posted:

seriously how much does it weigh?

I hope it has other weight-increasing features that aren't immediately evident from the picture. Tell me it has armored flight decks like the RN carriers from WWII.

FrozenVent posted:

There are ferries that work that way.

Most modern ships with that kind of configuration just have swivel chairs on the bridge though.

Oh or better yet this ship has two entire duplicate command staffs and they just take turns. During normal operations the aft captain and his guys are just chilling out with sudoku or taking naps, but when it's time to reverse they go on duty and the forward bridge gets to relax.

Schenck v. U.S. fucked around with this message at 04:23 on Oct 10, 2016

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