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A vision for the future? Trump has great vision, the best vision for the future. It's the kind of vision you can only get from something orange.
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Not a single thing trump said was at all competent. Most of it wasn't intelligible. He stomped his feet like a whiny baby every five minutes and he embodied the worst, slimiest, execrable aspects of his character every second. It may very well be the worst debate performance in american presidential history, and the media's attempts to equivocate it makes me sick.
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Unormal posted:My big takeaway was Trump's truly heartfelt "She doesn't quit, and she doesn't give up. She's a fighter." Yeah, that was priceless after weeks of "she's at death's door" and "she doesn't have the stamina."
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Wastid posted:Mike Rowe? Mike Rowe should do an episode of Dirty Jobs where he works for Donald Trumps campaign. "All right Mike time to prep the bull! "
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Wait poo poo he could've scheduled that Tweet. No but seriously he's still chained to this garbage fire.
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I'm glad republicans are going to stop abandoning him. Better chance to win Senate and House when more really horrific poo poo comes out and they look stupid for not abandoning ship when they had the chance.
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Overall nothing ground breaking at this debate. Trump looked like he was going to get absolutely railed over his tape at the beginning, but it didn't really go anywhere. Clinton has awful foreign policy so her weaknesses were really drawn out tonight. Her answer on the Goldman Sachs transcripts was terrible as well. I suppose she still "wins" just by virtue of not being a full blown fascist like Trump but I'm not confident that the US public will see it like that, especially after it's run through the US media spin machine.
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Chelb posted:Not a single thing trump said was at all competent. Most of it wasn't intelligible. He stomped his feet like a whiny baby every five minutes and he embodied the worst, slimiest, execrable aspects of his character every second. They want a horse race so bad that if he were lame, the media would be bringing up FDR
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Chelb posted:Not a single thing trump said was at all competent. Most of it wasn't intelligible. He stomped his feet like a whiny baby every five minutes and he embodied the worst, slimiest, execrable aspects of his character every second. Did you also not watch the debate
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Bashez posted:That capped off a pretty decent night for Trump. A lot of Trumps win doesn't hold up to scrutiny but I don't think there's going to be too much scrutiny for most people.
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Slowpoke! posted:The Pussygate tapes don't need any extra air time from Clinton. They will do enough damage in their own, and they're still going to be in the next news cycle post-debate. If she pressed her attack on it too much she would have come across worse for it for the actual undecided voters. The only people who would have loved it were already voting for her anyway.  Social media will do that work for her campaign and it will be better for it.
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Axel Serenity posted:I don't know much about the other moderator aside from her VP debate, but Anderson Cooper is not a man you want to get into a debate with. He's really loving good. I'm honestly surprised he was as subdued as he was. I understand his convictions but he was still very brutal and fired off a lot on Trump and gave Hillary a pass on a lot of the questions. As far as I understand the moderator role is more or less to try to keep the candidates from eating eachother and not fire back and immediately question their responses and try to keep the two of them on track, but I'm not really big on politics enough to know if they're supposed to do that. But yeah, I mean the moderators trying to take the spotlight themselves and grilling the candidates doesn't seem like their role as seen in this debate but conversely they shouldn't be basically walked over like a substitute teacher in the first debate. I think the lady (Martha ???) is a long time journalist for ABC?
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Straight White Shark posted:Yeah, I don't have a great feeling about this one. Hillary should have heeded Michelle's advice better--she had some great pieces in there but they're going to be overshadowed by all the pissing matches she let herself get into. This wasn't the time for her to go on the attack; Trump was already lashing out defensively. Yeah this was it. She went too dirty and it didn't work for her. This was her chance to put her position forward and she was too focused on attacking Trump
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EugeneJ posted:Did you even watch the debate Sadly yes, I'd love to say it was a huge win one way or the other but expectations vs. reality turns the scorecard into "He didn't poo poo himself on live tv vs. She looked exactly as competent as everyone thinks she is."
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I think that Trump staunched the bleeding, his base is going to rally about these things, he really got her on the email issue, but I don't think he did enough to reverse the momentum completely, especially with the Trump Tapes still not having affected the polls yet.
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Julias posted:
Kellyanne Conway on MSNBC w/ Chris Matthews also rechaining herself to the garbage fire.
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EugeneJ posted:Did you also not watch the debate lol
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This debate will not change anyone's minds. It's disappointing that he didn't get drawn and quartered on stage but nothing changed.
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I think it was a close win, but a win for Trump. How it plays out alongside the Access Hollywood tape is another matter.
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The real loser of this debate was America.
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lot of ya'll are over analyzing this stuff IMO but that's just me
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Chomskyan posted:Overall nothing ground breaking at this debate. Trump looked like he was going to get absolutely railed over his tape at the beginning, but it didn't really go anywhere. Clinton has awful foreign policy so her weaknesses were really drawn out tonight. Her answer on the Goldman Sachs transcripts was terrible as well. I suppose she still "wins" just by virtue of not being a full blown fascist like Trump but I'm not confident that the US public will see it like that, especially after it's run through the US media spin machine. Which part of her foreign policy answers did you disagree with and why?
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Servaetes posted:I understand his convictions but he was still very brutal and fired off a lot on Trump and gave Hillary a pass on a lot of the questions. As far as I understand the moderator role is more or less to try to keep the candidates from eating eachother and not fire back and immediately question their responses and try to keep the two of them on track, but I'm not really big on politics enough to know if they're supposed to do that.
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Nucleic Acids posted:I think it was a close win, but a win for Trump. How it plays out alongside the Access Hollywood tape is another matter. Second debates historically mean jack and/or poo poo
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"Well that didn't go as bad as I thought" only counts when your nerd son grounds out to first in Little League. Not when you're the RNC.
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Republicans are gonna think that Trump won because they are stupid people who have bad opinions but it is still disheartening 
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Nucleic Acids posted:I think it was a close win, but a win for Trump. How it plays out alongside the Access Hollywood tape is another matter. Saying he beat Clinton in this debate is a real stretch. It'd be more correct to say he survived.
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At no point in that debate - if you want to call it that - could you point to donald trump and say, "These are the words of a competent human being." It was pathetic, it was whiny. Your average eight year old has an equivalent capacity for speaking.
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Eifert Posting posted:This debate will not change anyone's minds. It's disappointing that he didn't get drawn and quartered on stage but nothing changed. Yeah pretty much, it was stump speeches and the same stuff we've seen in ads and articles and press releases. Nothing new, just people saying stuff. Trump interupted a lot and attacked Hillary. Hillary tried to talk more detailed answers. Nothing new, nothing changed.
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Crazy Ted posted:Actually in some of the older debates you can see that part of what the moderator did is directly challenge the candidate. There's a moment from one of the Ford-Carter where one of the moderators directly responds to an answer by Gerald Ford with something that was basically "Wait is that seriously your answer?" Ford said there was no Soviet domination of Eastern Europe and the moderator literally couldn't believe it and asked him to repeat himself. He did.
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Eifert Posting posted:This debate will not change anyone's minds. It's disappointing that he didn't get drawn and quartered on stage but nothing changed. Yeah, this election is WAY over, the only question now is congress. Only reason I tuned in tonight is because I thought there was a chance that Trump would show us an epic self-immolation. He succeeded in not defecating all over the stage and looked like kinda-sorta a politician though a clear dumbass who spouts word salad which sadly was better than I expected.
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Lol CNN guy just said he couldn't believe that the best Trump could say was he was not as bad as ISIS and crowd cheered.
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We, as a human species, deserve the outcome. Whatever it may be. That makes me feel better. As a Canadian.
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I doubt Trump will be able to reverse momentum here. Maaaaaybe he clings on to ~20% chances on poo poo like 538, but he won't gain. I feel there's too much poo poo that's primed to come out that will gently caress him, and all those sound clips of him threatening to arrest Hillary will not be a boon.
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Bad Moon posted:Lol CNN guy just said he couldn't believe that the best Trump could say was he was not as bad as ISIS and crowd cheered. ISIS prefer their women covered
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