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Pastrymancy
Feb 20, 2011

11:13: Despite Gio Gonzalez warning, "Never mix your sparkling juices," Bryce Harper opens another bottle of sparkling grape and mixes it with sparkling cider.

1:07: Harper walks to the 7-11 and orders an all-syrup Slurpee.

1:10-3:05: Harper has no recollection of this time. Aliens?

Dr Christmas posted:

Didn't watch the debate, but I popped into the thread a few times. Trump talked (joked?) about jailing Clinton, contradicted his running mate, interrupted and whined about his time, and told a Muslim woman that Islamophonia was her fault, but apparantly he pulled it together enough for some to consider it a win?

What did Clinton do wrong?

She didn't pull out a second Machado example

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Mel Mudkiper
Jan 19, 2012

At this point, Mudman abruptly ends the conversation. He usually insists on the last word.
Well the CNN focus group didn't like Trump's response

Retro42
Jun 27, 2011


Dr Christmas posted:

Didn't watch the debate, but I popped into the thread a few times. Trump talked (joked?) about jailing Clinton, contradicted his running mate, interrupted and whined about his time, and told a Muslim woman that Islamophonia was her fault, but apparantly he pulled it together enough for some to consider it a win?

What did Clinton do wrong?

Welcome to 2016 politics.

greatn
Nov 15, 2006

by Lowtax
Seriously, Begala taking about Victor Yanokovich jailing his political opponent and being Putins lap dog and tying that to Trumps behavior with regard to Russia was masterful.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Dr Christmas posted:

What did Clinton do wrong?

She was asked a question that seemed to take her off guard (to be fair it was one of those internet questions that was basically "why are you a two faced bitch") and fumbled the answer somewhat. That was basically the only real flaw in her performance, aside from not owning Trump hard enough.

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

Dr Christmas posted:

What did Clinton do wrong?

She stumbled hard on the question about the Wikileak releases (and may have contradicted her campaign on those) and failed to hit Trump on a lot of vulnerabilities.

She also screwed up the last question in a way that made her look petty and gave Trump the chance to end on a very strong note.

Sulphagnist
Oct 10, 2006

WARNING! INTRUDERS DETECTED

Cimber posted:

I did not watch the debate because i thought it would be more pleasurable to earfuck myself with a pen, but my Facebook feed is exploding with conservatives who are claiming a massive win. Did he really do that well?

He unloaded all the red meat from the fridge so people already in the tank for him are going to love it.

A lot of the tepid response by the deplorables to debate 1 was him not hitting her on EMAILS and Benghazi.

KomradeX
Oct 29, 2011

So how muchof a poo poo show was the debate? I'm not surprised the media is saing he's won, there goes the blood in the water media attacks I guess

BI NOW GAY LATER
Jan 17, 2008

So people stop asking, the "Bi" in my username is a reference to my love for the two greatest collegiate sports programs in the world, the Virginia Tech Hokies and the Marshall Thundering Herd.

Dr Christmas posted:

Didn't watch the debate, but I popped into the thread a few times. Trump talked (joked?) about jailing Clinton, contradicted his running mate, interrupted and whined about his time, and told a Muslim woman that Islamophonia was her fault, but apparantly he pulled it together enough for some to consider it a win?

What did Clinton do wrong?

I think she played a little close to the vest and didn't respond to some of the crazy poo poo he said, but I think she's fine. First poll dropped with her winning and I think in the post-debate spin she'll win as people start unpacking all the dumb crazy poo poo he said.

Nessus
Dec 22, 2003

After a Speaker vote, you may be entitled to a valuable coupon or voucher!



Dr Christmas posted:

Didn't watch the debate, but I popped into the thread a few times. Trump talked (joked?) about jailing Clinton, contradicted his running mate, interrupted and whined about his time, and told a Muslim woman that Islamophonia was her fault, but apparantly he pulled it together enough for some to consider it a win?

What did Clinton do wrong?
Well some people will assume that his powerful gorilla musk will prevail if he didn't get totally spanked and shitburgered. He did not get totally spanked and shitburgered; he did, however, Trump it up and ramble incoherent.

So the fact that he was France vs. Germany, 1940, rather than Poland vs. Germany, 1939, is being interpreted as a victory.

Aves Maria!
Jul 26, 2008

Maybe I'll drown
First snap poll from yougov had Clinton winning 47-42

Xae
Jan 19, 2005

Mulva posted:

The bar for Trump is literally "Not as bad as the worst thing he ever did". At any given moment, whatever the worst thing he did is? Anything better than that is good. Not "An improvement", it's flat out good and inspiring and a win for him. And as he keeps doing increasingly worse and worse things, the amount of terrible things he can do and still be called "Strong" is increasing. By the actual election date he'll be able to rape a woman and get away with it, because it will be better than that time he raped a baby.

The fist debate was a festering gut wound, the tapes are a gushing arterial bleed, this debate was a bloody nose.


Dr Christmas posted:

Didn't watch the debate, but I popped into the thread a few times. Trump talked (joked?) about jailing Clinton, contradicted his running mate, interrupted and whined about his time, and told a Muslim woman that Islamophonia was her fault, but apparantly he pulled it together enough for some to consider it a win?

What did Clinton do wrong?

Did not eviscerate him on live TV and crown herself Empress of Man.

Petr
Oct 3, 2000

Cimber posted:

I did not watch the debate because i thought it would be more pleasurable to earfuck myself with a pen, but my Facebook feed is exploding with conservatives who are claiming a massive win. Did he really do that well?

Yes, Trump came across as presidential and intelligent, while Clinton could barely stop her Parkinson's seizures long enough to answer questions. I fully expect Clinton's next of kin to concede the race tomorrow.

Pastrymancy
Feb 20, 2011

11:13: Despite Gio Gonzalez warning, "Never mix your sparkling juices," Bryce Harper opens another bottle of sparkling grape and mixes it with sparkling cider.

1:07: Harper walks to the 7-11 and orders an all-syrup Slurpee.

1:10-3:05: Harper has no recollection of this time. Aliens?
https://twitter.com/SopanDeb/status/785321525079453696

I would like to see this snowball :getin:

Its Rinaldo
Aug 13, 2010

CODS BINCH
This dude in the cabbie hat on point on CNN

lozzle
Oct 22, 2012

by zen death robot

Fojar38 posted:

She was asked a question that seemed to take her off guard (to be fair it was one of those internet questions that was basically "why are you a two faced bitch") and fumbled the answer somewhat. That was basically the only real flaw in her performance, aside from not owning Trump hard enough.

That question was awful.

Townhalls are awful.

Debates are awful.

Burn it all down.

Sulphagnist
Oct 10, 2006

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KomradeX posted:

So how muchof a poo poo show was the debate? I'm not surprised the media is saing he's won, there goes the blood in the water media attacks I guess

The media isn't really saying that. It seems to be "tie" or "Clinton won" but mostly they're just talking about the crazy poo poo Trump said.

Wraith of J.O.I.
Jan 25, 2012


Agree 100%:

https://twitter.com/emilynussbaum/status/785322740966387714

particle9
Nov 14, 2004
In the guide to getting dumped, this guy helped me realize that with time it does get better. And yeah, he did get his custom title.

Dr Christmas posted:

Didn't watch the debate, but I popped into the thread a few times. Trump talked (joked?) about jailing Clinton, contradicted his running mate, interrupted and whined about his time, and told a Muslim woman that Islamophonia was her fault, but apparantly he pulled it together enough for some to consider it a win?

What did Clinton do wrong?

He didn't joke at all about jailing her. He quite plainly laid out that if he wins he will have a special prosecutor assigned to her to ruin her and have her imprisioned.

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

Dr Christmas posted:

Didn't watch the debate, but I popped into the thread a few times. Trump talked (joked?) about jailing Clinton, contradicted his running mate, interrupted and whined about his time, and told a Muslim woman that Islamophonia was her fault, but apparantly he pulled it together enough for some to consider it a win?

What did Clinton do wrong?

She didn't make Trump actually, physically cry and she doesn't have a penis

BGrifter
Mar 16, 2007

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greatn posted:

Seriously, Begala taking about Victor Yanokovich jailing his political opponent and being Putins lap dog and tying that to Trumps behavior with regard to Russia was masterful.

The best thing about Clinton's campaign is seeing Carville and Begala on TV more often. :swoon:

disjoe
Feb 18, 2011


KomradeX posted:

So how muchof a poo poo show was the debate? I'm not surprised the media is saing he's won, there goes the blood in the water media attacks I guess

They're saying he may have won while simultaneously playing over and over his absolute worst moments during the debate.

And those moments were bad.

Evrart Claire
Jan 11, 2008
She played it way too passively, and fumbled a couple questions. He was just dreadfully awful on the early stuff about the tape and talking to the Muslim woman, but he finished strong enough for immediate response to be a win.

He said a lot of things though that are already going to look really bad in any post-debate attack ads though, especially if a second audio tape drops.

Night10194
Feb 13, 2012

We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

Eugene V. Dabs posted:

First snap poll from yougov had Clinton winning 47-42

Well, that's good to hear. "Tie but marginal Clinton win" plus "Lock Her Up" and failing to answer pussygate isn't the WORST outcome we could have.

ComradeCosmobot
Dec 4, 2004

USPOL July

Samson in the temple.

lozzle
Oct 22, 2012

by zen death robot

Eugene V. Dabs posted:

First snap poll from yougov had Clinton winning 47-42

This is heartening.

I'm okay with anything up to a tie or even a slight Trump win.

Really though there's no way this is enough to staunch the bleeding.

Evil Fluffy
Jul 13, 2009

Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.

Nucleic Acids posted:

God, if someone tries to re-endorse him...

I honestly won't be surprised if this next week is some sort of dumb "Trump Redeemed" poo poo because he did better than in the first debate.

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

Evil Fluffy posted:

I honestly won't be surprised if this next week is some sort of dumb "Trump Redeemed" poo poo because he did better than in the first debate.

Yeah, this is what I'm expecting. "Trump recovers! GOP back onboard!"

Which isn't going to be great but stops the "a bunch of people unendorsed him" stuff.

Mel Mudkiper
Jan 19, 2012

At this point, Mudman abruptly ends the conversation. He usually insists on the last word.
focus group seemed to heavily lean Clinton at least

greatn
Nov 15, 2006

by Lowtax
Ha, that focus group on CNN had one person who thought Trump won.

Aves Maria!
Jul 26, 2008

Maybe I'll drown

Night10194 posted:

Well, that's good to hear. "Tie but marginal Clinton win" plus "Lock Her Up" and failing to answer pussygate isn't the WORST outcome we could have.

Yeah, tie/marginal Clinton win means we are back to Trump being an rear end in a top hat in the next few days

psutify
Oct 19, 2012
Twitter is creeped out by Donalds lurking
https://twitter.com/CNN/status/785301699250585600

He looks to miserable
https://twitter.com/CNN/status/785307236721631233

particle9
Nov 14, 2004
In the guide to getting dumped, this guy helped me realize that with time it does get better. And yeah, he did get his custom title.
The one thing I thought clinton said that was crazy/surprising was that she would arm the Kurds. Turkey is already in a bad spot and is a NATO member and would never be ok with that.

ComradeCosmobot
Dec 4, 2004

USPOL July

Eugene V. Dabs posted:

First snap poll from yougov had Clinton winning 47-42

"But did you see the polls on Drudge!!!"

Evrart Claire
Jan 11, 2008

disjoe posted:

They're saying he may have won while simultaneously playing over and over his absolute worst moments during the debate.

And those moments were bad.

Yeah, his worst moments were just abysmal but he ended will enough for media to briefly forget about those moments.

BGrifter
Mar 16, 2007

Winner of Something Awful PS5 thread's Posting Excellence Award June 2022

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ImpAtom posted:

Yeah, this is what I'm expecting. "Trump recovers! GOP back onboard!"

Which isn't going to be great but stops the "a bunch of people unendorsed him" stuff.

Yep, and it's going to make the inevitable next scandal/video tape even more crushing. It's going to be GLORIOUS.

Retro42
Jun 27, 2011


Evil Fluffy posted:

I honestly won't be surprised if this next week is some sort of dumb "Trump Redeemed" poo poo because he did better than in the first debate.

I doubt it simply because I also expect another October surprise the minute that even looks like it could happened.

lozzle
Oct 22, 2012

by zen death robot

particle9 posted:

The one thing I thought clinton said that was crazy/surprising was that she would arm the Kurds. Turkey is already in a bad spot and is a NATO member and would never be ok with that.

Meh gently caress Erdogan.

Mokelumne Trekka
Nov 22, 2015

Soon.

wait. did Trump say Bill raped a 12 yr old? or did I not hear correctly?

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ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

BGrifter posted:

Yep, and it's going to make the inevitable next scandal/video tape even more crushing. It's going to be GLORIOUS.

Eh, I just don't buy the other video is coming. It exists certainly but it is apparently in the hands of someone pro-Trump who would destroy it before letting it get leaked.

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